Are the jedi actually the evil force users in the star wars universe?

[Sixgunsound]

They kidnap children at a young age, utterly destroy their psyche and normal emotional development, give them reactive attachment disorder, and send them into Galaxy spanning war zones as child soldiers. Upon reaching adulthood, they fly around the universe committing acts of terrorism and otherwise achieving kill counts impossible to contemplate for conventional armies. They are spies, assassins, thieves, and bullies who have police immunity granted to them by a tyrannical Republic. When they become sufficiently proficient at mass murder and terroristic mayhem that their accreditation body grants them the rank of master, they are assigned a terrified abducted child to perpetuate the cycle.

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Anyone who attempts to leave the cult is branded as evil and must be challenged to a duel to the death on sighting them.

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The evil of the sith is actually jedi propaganda. Comparatively speaking the Jedi are responsible for far more murder mayhem destruction and violation of the rights of others. They just need a boogeyman to point people towards to distract from their galaxy-spanning crime spree. It is only the rebel terrorists who claim the empire is evil. A rebel Jedi murdered over a million civil servants of the democratically elected government in one shot at the Battle of Yavin, for example.

[RealMarek]

Palpatine was just trying to save the galaxy from the Republic, which was mired in corruption. Don’t let the veneer of democracy in the Senate fool you. The Republic was in the firm grip of the banking oligarchy that issued a debased currency called Galactic Credits. The rapid devaluation of these credits impoverished the masses while concentrating wealth into the hands of the elites, who could afford to pay jedi knights to moonlight as personal bodyguards while everyone else suffered from the chaos.

Taxation and regulation was so burdensome that common people resorted to bartering and smuggling to have a semblance of an economy. As for the Senate, it was bought and paid for with bribes and full of rank incompetents like Jar-Jar Binks or even child figureheads like Amidala. The Republic’s elites were so immoral that they had no qualms about raising an army of brainwashed clones.

Palpatine attempted to restore order and revitalize the economy with hard currency through the separatist movement that was led by the idealistic, competent, dissident elite Count Dooku. When this failed Palpatine did what he must. He took matters into his own hands to defend the common people of the galaxy from a morally bankrupt, corrupt elite.

[RealMarek]

Furthermore, the rebels squandered their victory by promoting for diversity instead of competence. Heroic figures like Han Solo and Luke Skywalker were sidelined or withdrew from public life in disgust. This left a power vacuum that resulted in the chaotic and tragic circumstances that played out in the later movies.

[Sixgunsound]

I can't find a single point to argue with. Velorum was a corrupt bureaucrat who was bought years before the events of episode 1. Palpatine was obsessed with superweapons which were to terrifying to a reasonable person to contemplate resisting, thus the Pax Imperial reigned for 20 years while he hunted down and elimi ated the last super soldiers of the old order.

[RealMarek]

It’s no accident that the creators of Star Wars cast the corrupt oligarchy that impoverished the people with fiat currency and DEI to be the good guys. They reflect the “values” of the actual Western globalist elites.

[Sixgunsound]

Kind of like Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry made the good guys intergalactic communists who solved the problem of people not working if they don't get paid or can't afford groceries by creating a technology that manufactures everything for free. Typical communist magical thinking.

[RealMarek]

Yeah, Richard Wolff style marxism. All benefits and no costs. This is impossible.

[MementoMori777]

yep if you read more into other star wars things like comics and cannon series, you'll see they are lowkey evil too

[Sixgunsound]

It isn't low key at all, they just control the narrative. That has interesting and uncomfortable parallels for real life.

[MementoMori777]

yea there's really no good guys there lol

[Sixgunsound]

Part of what makes the mandalorian so popular is They are at least honest that there are no good guys. The book of bobofat plays around with the concept of redemption though.

[MementoMori777]

yep mandalorians are more neutral

[Sixgunsound]

George Lucas gave us mental whiplash by pitting child abducting, mental traumatizing terrorists (the alleged good guys) against slavers who blow planets up. The jedi technically enslave their child soldiers...

[MementoMori777]

yep basically lmao

[Anonymous]

Don't forget they led an army of slave soldiers to repress worlds who voted democratically to leave the Republic

[Sixgunsound]

If they have no problem hunting down and murdering their own former members it probably wouldn't take much convincing to invade and kill former taxpayers.

[Opinion Owner]

Look at the jedi persecution of the sith just because they have a different religion

[Sixgunsound]

Exactly. Anyone who has a different from the dominant government, or resources ir tax money the dominant government wants gets a visit from that government's war machine until they submit or die.

[Opinion Owner]

If you think about it the empire guys were the good guys and the rebels were radical terrorists.
Palpatine was elected to the senate and mace windu with his band of fanatics attacked him because of his sith religious beliefs and tried to overturn democracy

[Sixgunsound]

Democracy gets overturned a lot. It's almost like irl we have a choice, but if we choose wrong they will step in and save us from ourselves.

[Agape93]

Agreed.