Is it prejudice against men to create a story in which women are protagonists and men secondary? ?

[Anonymous]

[strateguy632]

since that is the complaint when women are second then equaly a man can't be second. luckily in james bond he is the hero but STILL a lady saved him sometimes.
did you notice in the film marvels? marvel made the star women... in a story where the women fail and fail and fail... and the happy ending in the end, as a surprise they also fail! in contrast to iron man.

[Anno2]

Watched ghostbusters remake or barbie movie? Get used to it.

[Forceinhand]

Are you doing it intentionally because you want men to not have any prominence? Then yes. Is it simply how your story is written for other reasons then no.

[Asker]

What would it be to do intentionally? As far as I've seen, the simple act of there being male and female characters in a film and none of the male characters being relevant is enough to disturb.

[Forceinhand]

Not really. Take Rings of Power. They contort the real story of the Silmarillion and force in minority and female actors into character roles specifically described by Tolkien as male or white. That's intentionally discriminating.

[Sasahara]

m.youtube.com/watch

[Sasahara]

@forceinhand Funny video your conversation with the asker rekinded me about. by the way you are absolutely right

[Asker]

I'm doing it because it's normal.

[Forceinhand]

What do you mean by 'it's normal'?

[Asker]

Women and black people are people and it is absolutely normal for there to be stories about them and for them to be protagonists. Just as white people are protagonists in their stories, black people and women can too. That's what I mean by normal.

[Forceinhand]

Again, as I said then it depends on your motive. Is it a story that happens to be centered around minorities that's fine. Are you purposefully excluding white people for some political agenda that's not fine.

[Asker]

The world doesn't revolve around white people any more than it revolves around black people and women. The problem is that I'm seeing several black artists creating their own stories and being questioned for having too many black characters. If a story has only whites or Asians, the explanation is simple: it was a pure coincidence or just the author's will. Black artists need to explain things that artists of other races don't need to, the simple fact that the black characters are just a coincidence is not enough. Another problem is that if the strongest character in the story is a woman, many men will assume that it is an offense against masculinity, "what do you mean the woman is the one who exercises leadership and is also the strongest?" they would say.

[Forceinhand]

Of course it doesn't revolve around any of us. That doesn't mean it's the right thing to do to conciously exclude and despise any certain group as many a woke artist does against whites. You did ask the question so here's the answer: Men *are* naturally stronger, and more aggressive, and more dominant than women due to biology. And so authors who write these obnoxious girl-boss characters "who don't need no man" does everything themselves and overcomes huge physical obstacles insurmountable in actuality by women are only conflicting with reality, and makes for unlikable characters. If it's fantasy that's one thing. But people are tired of the political agenda of fronting women *all the time* as if they were super-people. Because it's a concious effort to dismantle the traditional view on men and women, a view which only adheres to biological facts.

[Asker]

This is one of the points: it is very easy for you to think that you are despised. The simple fact that a film has black people as protagonists and white people as secondary people is enough to make people think that white people are being despised. In the film the hero is black and the villain is white = woke. A woman knows how to pay the bills and live alone without the help of a man = woke. Black characters do not die in the third episode and are more important than white =woke characters. A man offers help to a woman and the woman refuses =woke. In a fantasy and fiction story the same thing happens. A female character can be strong and intelligent, but she cannot be stronger and more intelligent than all men, that is, she cannot be at the top. The same thing with black characters. In a fictional world, all characters can be white. If someone asks why, the answer will be because the author wanted it and anyone who disagrees is woke. If a black artist creates a universe in which everyone is black, he needs explanations that other races do not. As it is, they should even explain why water is wet.

[Forceinhand]

It's a mere observation. If you truly haven't picked up on the fact that there is an anti-white movement predominant in leftist America (which seems to me you'd have to have lived under a rock to miss) just look up the "what are we doing to white people" video on youtube.

"In the film the hero is black and the villain is white = woke." Nope. That's not what's being said.
"A woman knows how to pay the bills and live alone without the help of a man = woke" Nope. That's not what's being said either. You're simply hugely watering down the kind of roles I'm actually referring to.

[Asker]

It's simply a fact. Even in films where the characters are original and white people are not mentioned, right-wing white people call them woke. So yes, "In the film the hero is black and the villain is white = woke." An original trans character or a couple of gay men will always be woke even if they are original. The closest they don't come to complain is when it's a lesbian couple (maybe because they have a fetish about it).

[Forceinhand]

No, it isn't. There is always much more behind it than it simply being so by happenstance and you just saying it is so doesn't make it so. There isn't half as much complaining and writhing of hands on the right as there is on the left over traditional views. Even Lotr has been accused of "racism" in recent days. We can go back and forth about this indefinitely.

[Yannae]

No unless it's bad writing, like star wars as of late

[Anonymous]

No a story is about whatever you want it to be.