Is true love unconditional?

[Haha456]

if your parent loves you only conditionally instead of unconditionally , does it mean its not true love?

[Effably]

I am going to sounds like a pessimistic ass now.

There is no unconditional love. There are conditions that are hard to find, strange and near impossible but they do exist. Someone's partner might be okay with them being a murderer, thief, abusive psychopath, and a whole line of other things yet kissing someone else could be real betrayal and end that love. It is not without conditions.

As for a parent's love? It is more difficult to lose as there is always an inherent responsibility towards each other. But is it impossible to lose it? Absolutely not. I know roughly what I would need to do to lose my parents' love.

That said, if the conditions do not hold us back I believe it fair to still romanticize it as unconditional.

[sirderpsalot123]

Your parents are probably the only people who will love you unconditionally. (If you have good parents)

[Haha456]

my parents dont love me unconditionally.

[Haha456]

question is: is conditional love ever true love?

[sirderpsalot123]

I read the question as "is unconditional love true love) just woke up...

I'd say yes. Love is a feeling and feelings can change, people can fall out of love with someone (if they cheated or something) but that doesn't mean the love they had for them prior wasn't true.

[sirderpsalot123]

Can be applied to friends and family as well.

[Haha456]

you can fall out of love easily with a spouse, but it usually does not happen with a child.

[Haha456]

romantic love is different from child to parent love. very different

[NathanDavis]

no... unconditional love does not really exist

you can always lose it... when you become unworthy of it, and that is the point of true love, it has to be reciprocated... and not one sided, so when one part stops doing their part and starts doing things against, that love is going to end or it is going to turn into something else different

[Haha456]

i think unconditional love does exist. its just that not everyone has experienced unconditional love which is why you don't think it exists

[NathanDavis]

unconditional love exists... yes, as long as some conditions are met

but as long as some one loses the uncondtional love, then it does not exist... and for that case, many cases do exist

so yes, if you go case by case, of course you will find many in which it does exist but that is because conditions are still there and being met, lol

[sirderpsalot123]

@NathanDavis There are parents out there who will love their child even if they went on a murderous rampage and killed 40 people.

Some parents are capable of loving unconditionally.

[NathanDavis]

@sirderpsalot123 yes, but is that really love?

or is that an exceptional and also a very sick twisted way to enable something horrible

I mean, are those people right in the head? is it actually true love? because true love is something positive and we do have certain standards for it, don't we? lol

they might call it love yes, but we all know that... it could be something else like denial, guilt, and many other negative feelings and situations

for example, let's say one of those sickos are murderers and rapists of infants... so they go on and murder a lot of them, but then they are not caught, now, I want to think these parents could say they still love their little psycho but they are also going to be a bit ware and lose at least a bit of trust, right? so this is not TRUE love, this is something else and something extremely weird and sick too

also true that such sicko murdered rapist could go on to do even more things that could eventually break that "unconditional true love" it is not going to go on forever. don't you think so?

lastly, for this "true love" from parents to their sicko murderer rapists little angels there are still conditions to be me, these parents have to be stupidly sick in their heads too, so no, it is not unconditional lmfao and that is my whole point

[sirderpsalot123]

Well, if being a sicko murdering rapist isn't enough to lose their love... I can't think of anything that would.

And it is possible for a parent to love their child but not love what their child did.

If a parent said "I don't defend what my son did. Jail is where he belongs. But he is my son and I will never stop loving him." I wouldn't call that "twisted"

I would only think of them as twisted if they helped cover up their crimes or defended what they did.

[NathanDavis]

@sirderpsalot123 yes, I see what you mean... and I agree with you

however, for this to happen what you just said, there has to be TWO conditions met, the parents are sane

and second, the parents are making a differentiation between their psycho son, and their psycho son's awful wrongdoing so yeah... this is conditional love, not an unconditional one

[NathanDavis]

and to add to the premise being not met... this would not be true love either, because not it is tainted love too... if the parents are sane they have to hate what happened and now they have to love IN SPITE of all that messed up negativity, it is no longer a pure love but a tainted one and it makes it less "true"

[sirderpsalot123]

@NsthanDavid That is true...

Fine. But I still think parents come the closest to loving unconditionally. Lol

[NathanDavis]

@sirderpsalot123 no doubt about that, especially mothers...

that's probably the most truly of all and by miles in comparison with others

then, there's me and carbs, though...

[Haha456]

@sirderpsalot123

i would agree. Most parents would still love their child even if they murdered somebody. I watch murder documentaries a lot. 8 out of 10 times, the parent will always love their child and not call the police.

[Haha456]

@NathanDavis

believe it or not, some parents still love their kids even if their kid pushed them off a cliff.

some people don't have conditions.

[NathanDavis]

*circles around the same premise and discussion*

yes @haha456 there is belief... and then we can choose to believe either way, that's also a condition, lol

[Haha456]

@NathanDavis

stomping your feet and insisting that you are correct does not actually make you correct.

[NathanDavis]

I did not say I was correct.. I just pointed out a different perspective, which is not wrong, everyone has one of those and it can go different for everyone else, I am never against that

I never told @sirderpsalot123 that he was wrong, and i am not telling you are wrong either, I am just saying my perspective is different, and also deeper, that is true...

now, my parents always loved this about me... my stomping, I mean

[sirderpsalot123]

@Haha456 Nathan isn't "stomping his feet" and insisting that he's correct. He's just explaining why he feels the way does and isn't saying what you wanted him to say, lol.

[sirderpsalot123]

He made a good point about tainted love not being able to be true love.

[Haha456]

@sirderpsalot123

I personally have witnessed many times throughout my life where a parent has unconditional love for a child. I've seen parents love their child even when the kid wrecked the parent's life. I've seen parents stand by their adult children committing murder on the streets. I have seen parents stand by their children even after their kids are retarded, hopeless failures.

Unconditional love exists. Its just that not everyone is capable of unconditional love.

[Berethor]

They love you because you have their DNA, it's not as unconditional as you think anyway.

[Vikkrram]

It depends on person to person what they set up as a parameters of conditions. I would say

[Agape93]

True love is not real, and every love has conditions.

[Anonymous]

I don't know.