Do you think the 40 hour work week is why people are no longer starting families?

[Deserter3]

You barely have time for yourself, let alone having to satisfy a spouse, possibly kids.

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contentious I'm a deist you schizo incel, go back to 4chan

[Effably]

Not really. In part. I think its a matter of phases of life.

Roll time back 70 years. You're fresh out of highschool. You walk into a bank. They hire you. You didn't walk there for that but hey, you did some math in school. Five years later you have bought a house. Fully paid for it too. You've got a car, house. You're barely 23.

You're set and ready.

Fastforward to today. You get a bachelors to be competitive, you had to shift once or work a couple years to afford it. You're 23. You own a car, student loans and buying a place to live is a far off fantasy.

You work. Buying a house upfront is going to take you well into your 40s, maybe more. So that isn't happening. But government and banks have made more and more money available to loan and are asking for a lower and lower percentage. That doesn't help you. When the percentage for a downpayment went from 15% to 7.5% the price of the house just doubled. On top of it all you were always taught to be responsible, to budget and manage things well and honestly, kids might not be realistically economically viable.

It differs of course but that sums up my view. We should all be working less, I agree. But even before that everyone should be getting a bigger part of the pie.

[Shiprex]

Yeah that 40 hour week as well as fulfil the social media demand of perfect partner or take a walk is way too much work.

[Shiprex]

@Deserter3
Thanks for the MHO

[Screenwriter]

40 hour workweeks have been around for a very long time and people have been having kids when they were working six days a week and 12 hours a day on farms.

It's about what you're willing to commit time to. I think it's mostly about what kinds of families people came from, how well they're doing financially and if they want children.

They are a big commitment when they're young. Eat up loads of your time. But, in the long run, they can bring good things to your lives. There will always be rough spots, as in any relationship. But I'm glad I had a kid. Much better than a dog or cat. And they grow up and pick up their own shit.

For the most part.

[avery58]

No, it's because no one can afford to even live by themselves anymore. Much less take care of multiple kids, and raising kids is expensive AF.

[BCRanger10]

No. There are a lot of reasons why people aren't starting families, the least of which is not that men and women these days truly seem to deeply hate and resent each other (and yes, feminism is largely to blame, though not exclusively). Likewise, they spend so much time on their phones and on social media that they don't interact with people. They can't afford it, they've had bad examples from their parents and now grandparents too.

The 40-hour-work week is only a small factor.

[contentious]

Two posts down from this question you have a pink account asking "If a woman wore a strap on dick to have anal sex with another man, would you view that as gay?" and you're wondering if the problem is a 40 hour work week..

[contentious]

You probably just have to fix that with fire...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIPNf6HVefM

[contentious]

[Deserter3]

That's irrelevant bro

[contentious]

Yeah the mentality of women has nothing to do with men and women starting families. It's not like people have to connect and form a relationship or anything to get married and start a family. They just need to work less hours and have less money in their pocket. Brilliant...

[Deserter3]

A 40 hour work week makes that difficult, genius. Yeah, women are too selective, but even Chad struggles to keep a marriage going, what does that tell you?

[contentious]

It tells me that you are mentally retarded. You go to mate selection based on women wanting to have anal sex with other men. You don't even notice that they are a broken human being that doesn't realize they have the round hole not the round peg. You have to fix basic humanity...

[Deserter3]

Have you ever talked to a girl? I mean irl not online, most of them don't want to peg you, stupid

[contentious]

When it comes to asking women out and marriage, men are the one's that do the asking. So clearly men don't see viable mates in the field, thus they aren't doing the asking if marriage rates and birth rates are plummeting. This means, there is disease in the heard so to speak which is driving a population crash.

[contentious]

You're mental retardation might also be contributing to that disease in the heard.

[contentious]

*Your

[Deserter3]

Don't get haughty with me cause you're a failure, incel

[contentious]

It's funny that you keep projecting your insecurities, because I'm pointing to the actual problems in human behavior and biological basis for population crashes. There is a cultural and mental health crisis that has influenced the way women think. The truth hurts you that much that you have to cry about not being "selected" and being an "incel". It's pretty funny really.

[Deserter3]

Women have always been this way, you dope. Things only kinda work if your force them into servitude like in Islam

[contentious]

There is no major natural disaster, no major war or conflict, no mass migration, or environmental change that would crash population and cause genetic bottle necking. There's technically no resource depletion to exceed carrying capacity, but there is a resource management issue (due to debasement of the world reserve of currency) which is driving economic instability. There is however a large issue of dysfunction in behavior, a rise in mental health problems, and a change in reproductive behavior. It's easy to see if you just open up your eyes and look around some time. You can for example sit in a restaurant and watch a couple on a date sitting at a table across from each other both staring at their phones rather than communicating with one another. Too many people are mentally broken. You sound like one of them.

[contentious]

I knew you were fucked in the head. You're representing Islam. Your false prophet liked to get pounded in the ass by groups of black men. You've classified my suspicions about you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtTYxxmVpvA

[contentious]

*clarified

[MemeSupreme]

maybe bc 40 hours isn't enough lol its why a lot of people get 2 jobe

[MemeSupreme]

jobs*

[Deserter3]

Eww work

[MemeSupreme]

b-but money...

[Simslover92]

I definitely think so along with the economy not being as optimal as it was to start a family years ago.

[Alex-Snow]

I'm still in college so I do not really know. But I could see husbands and wives being tired. But I'd still try to make as much time as possible for sex.

[Anonymous]

They've had the 40 hour work week for over 100 years. But I do think one parent should be home with the child. Daycare makes no sense whatsoever unless you only use it once in awhile.

[jahaims]

Societal and cultural values have changed and the economy is bad.