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If those are really, truly trans girls than they are both equally stunning. I would not have ever figured them as trans. I'm kind of hesitant to believe they are. I kind of think those are just photos are super sexy women born as women.
Guys need to ask to see the birth certificate before having sex.
Soon, it's gonna be illegal to specify sex on a birth certificate. Kids will get to choose their gender at school.
Both stunningly gorgeous like so many are. They seem to take more care than a genetic female and end up perfectly beautiful. Lovely!
I’m really surprised most people voted one!! I think two is gorgeous!! Maybe because she reminds me a bit of myself 🤭😋
Damn they weren't born girls but they still have waaayyy better bodies than I
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The problem with a lot of transgender women is that they go to extremes to appear "Feminine." The overdo the breast implants, layer on way to much makeup, use too many hair extensions that their hair looks fake and they are constantly moving their hair from their face with the back of their right hand. For fuck sake, can't a transgender woman be her own self.
Both are very attractive; B is sexier. However, that doesn't mean that people should change their God-given gender. People should be satisfied with themselves instead.
This is really... really... interesting. They are really good looking and it's really mesmerizing. It's interesting to see how if you're building a woman from scratch how you're able to construct a very attractive woman... I can see why so many men are being deceived and it makes me kinda sad because men don't take things like this lightly and in most cases this person's life is about to be cut short.
I prefer the 1st woman, I don't usually like tanned color skin and just like her more overall. Attraction is hard to explain sometimes
Both of those guys have better bodies than me and I'm a female at birth. Makes me feel like shit! *grabs another donut*
I'm basically looking at two males with a ton of make-up and a lot of surgery. Too bad, I can still see they're not female.
Pretty but would refuse any romantic or sexual relationship
Damn they look like real women, science has gone too far.
They are real women
@GreedyGiver651 lol k
Why is that funny?
@GreedyGiver651 because it sounds crazy
What does? That these women are women?
@GreedyGiver651 trans women
What about them?
@GreedyGiver651 they are trans not real
Are they imaginary? So cis women are real and trans women are not? Why?
@GreedyGiver651 xy and xx
@GreedyGiver651 they aren't imaginary but neither are men and men aren't real women, you knew what I meant lets not get so literal.
So is it just chromosomes that define a gender?
@GreedyGiver651 Yes
@GreedyGiver651 We merely cede the term "woman" to a man who identifies as a woman out of "muh feerings"
That's not true. "muh feerings", means emotion and personality right? So biological sex isn't debatable, (unless you get sex reassignment surgery then it is?) gender is mostly based on society and "nurture" instead of "nature" though there are things like too much or too little testosterone that can effect this as well. So "muh feerings" can be the joke you label It as, but it's much more
@GreedyGiver651 Yes, pumping someone full of testosterone or estrogen makes them a natural female/male
How is that done? Artificially
I meant in utero, the mothers body effects that differently. Abd is that your only response?
@GreedyGiver651 If you have to go through GENDER REASSIGNMENT SURGERY you are not a REAL female or male
Are they imaginary? That was a question, not a statement. If you could actually address the main points of how gender and sex are two different things. Gender being effected by a large number of variables like society or upbringing. While things like testosterone or estrogen during pregnancy can effect gender or sexuality? So what actually defines male or female as a gender
@GreedyGiver651 They aren't imaginary, however they are not truly a man or a woman.
Testosterone or estrogen during pregnancy is done a natural way which is literally a non-argument when you're claiming people who change their gender artificially are a real "man" or "woman"
Gender is different then biological sex. Testosterone and estrogen cannot be controlled unless it's artificial. So if a biological male feels in all ways female. Would the be a girl/woman? It was a natural occurrence and not controlled right? So the only difference is tge difference in genitals not the gender.
Controlled during pregnancy
@GreedyGiver651 Whilst they're a biological male feels like a female he can't look or become like a woman without appropriate treatment, artificial thus.
I like how you all repeat the same hogwash with the "muh genitals don't matter" a dick is on a man and a vagina is on a woman so how can genitals not be an indication of gender?
Controlled during pregnancy because pregnancy is where they develop, not on an operating table where their dick is snipped off and an axe wound is put there
So you are speaking just of natural occurrence. Despite the fact that almost everything after birth is "artificial" like medicine and clothes and social norms.
There are records of people born with both sets of genitals so what's your explanation there? Besides an insult.
You must not really know about that surgery huh? They don't just cut it off and hit the area with an axe. So despite you attempt to sound shocking. You just sound ignorant
@GreedyGiver651 The explanation for that is a mutation which is known as intersex, since that has naturally occurred from a mutation I believe they are entitled to identifying as man or woman since they are technically both.
An axe wound is another name for a vagina you just sound ignorant assuming I meant it in a way where they actually get an axe
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Everything after birth is artificial so your argument of "artificial isn't real" isn't very strong.
I knew you were not being literal. You were trying to be shocking or make the surgery sound worse then it is or different. But I called it out because It just showed ignorent or trying to use shock value to prove a point
@GreedyGiver651 Indeed everything is artificial on a minor level, medicenes keeping you healthy.
A major change such as trying to change yourself from a man to a woman is different from taking medicine to keep healthy
Or are you trying to justify that when you become a woman you'll be a real woman?
@GreedyGiver651 @disgustingweebtrash can you two just fuck already it's these notifications are annoying af
I thought you two loved each other? What's wrong Josh? Can't handle the outcome of your hatesspeach? Isn't it funny?
Minor or major is subjective. Just because a medicine goes against your social norm doesn't mean it isn't real or invalid. When you identify as a woman. You are a woman. Or a men if you identify as that. You don't need to have surgery
@GreedyGiver651 You aren't a woman from simple identification.
I am White, I am quite clearly visibly white. If I identify as black am I black?
No i'm not. I'm not black no matter how much I become a self-hating White left-winger
Gender is not just physical. Skin color is, unless you are saying there is a difference then it's racist and not provable.
@GreedyGiver651 Gender is physical, men have defined characteristics that women don't have.
There is minor differences between the races, such as blacks having wider noses, Asians having the eyefolds and whites having pale features and blonde hair.
Alas, research can't be done into the differences between the races because it'd be shut down because "muh raycism"
Research has been done, by members of all races. White people say it's a brain thing that makes them superior, black people contribute it to melanin adding to superiority , etc. None of it adds up.
Sex is physical. Gender is not. by the way, your mocking way of bringing up valid concerns is pointless. Can you stick to actual points or retorts? So we don't waste each other's time
@GreedyGiver651 I doubt any research has ever been done post 2000 on this subject as the rise of the radical left silences anyone who even thinks about the idea that races are different.
Gender is about "feelings" so when you dismissed the feelings claim before you just confirmed to me now that it is indeed, based on emotion?
I never said they are post 2000. I didn't confirm anything. Gender is based on a lot of things, like I stated earlier
@GreedyGiver651 Things such as?
Anything nurture, such as conditions of pregnancy, gender norms, upbringing, the society they are raised in.
Personal choice and identity
@GreedyGiver651 These all add up to one thing
how
they
feel
But not all personal choice. Without "feelings" we would be shells, just doing instinctual survival. Things like the environment we live in and what we are taught on top of an uncontrollable level of sex hormones in utero contributes to gender as well as humanity. So what's your point?
@GreedyGiver651 My point is even if they feel like a woman they aren't a woman.
I'm poor, I feel like a rich man. But i'm not a rich man
They identify as women, they feel like women, they look like women. So they are women.
Money is artificial and can be gained or lost multiple times. A gender cannot, your comparison is weak
@GreedyGiver651 So put them next to a biologically born woman they are as real as them?
Yes, they are.
@GreedyGiver651 They aren't, i'm sure the real woman who has the ability to reproduce would be very offended that you'd say that.
Aren't you all about not offending people?
If you are basing gender only on the ability to reproduce then we are back to talking about how gender is not sex.
No, that's not what I'm about. I offend people all the time, just the people with hateful ideas or harmful actions and opinions. I don't hold back challenges for sake of offending others. I just don't insult them or hate them. Which they usually don't expect, challenge their ideas
@GreedyGiver651 Biologically she's a woman, in her head she's a woman.
Biologically he's a man, in his head he's a woman.
Put two and two and you'd realise which one is the REAL woman
Both of them. They are both real women.
@GreedyGiver651 Nope, why is the biological woman not the real one?
She is real. They both are.
@GreedyGiver651 Nope, one is a man who identifies as a woman
They are both women. Your denial of it is closed minded. I'm sure Josh is loving all these short reply notifications
@GreedyGiver651 It's not close minded at all, it's normal logical thinking. I don't care if transgenders bitch about not being called "real" because they're not, they're essentially cardboard cut outs, sure they can identify as a woman idgaf but they're not a REAL woman.
So human beings are "cardboard cutouts" because they don't fit into your bedroom perception of what gender is? That's logical? No, that sounds like ignorence. They are real woman, just like you are a real bigot
@GreedyGiver651 They aren't real women, a real woman is someone who is born a woman and identifies as a woman.
A real woman isn't a man who was born as a man and is conditioned to believe he is a woman then taking reassignment surgery to become a woman
Typical leftie pointing fingers and claiming bigot, what's next? Going to block me commie?
https://i.imgur.com/zVrTijY.png
"conditioned"? Almost nobody is "conditioned" to be one gender or another on purpose. The environment effects exposure to gender norms.
Your last part used "leftie" and "commie" as insults. I already explained I'm not communist and I am not about left or right wings.
No, why would I block you?
@GreedyGiver651 Social democrats are likely communists hiding under the cloak of "democracy"
Rosa Luxemburg is an example, social democrat who went and took part in the German revolution
Id rather be able to see when you spread more hateful and harmful ideas so I can call you out on it. So I wouldn't be suprised if you blocked me.
Hateful ideas in your eyes would probably be "yeah, I think immigration should be tightened to give workers here more power over the corporations"
You realize you are off topic right? I addressed your weak insults, nothing more. The post is not about politics, it's not even about if trans women are women.
It's about which one is prettier and you tried to troll, so I called you out.
@GreedyGiver651 You're a troll. I really laughed hard while reading your ridiculous "arguments". Accept the facts. Deal with it and chill. You are trying to deny basic science. @disgustingweebtrash I admire your patience.
@MyAtlantis Thank you
I'm not a troll. At all, I called out hates speach and bigotry. Label me what you want. I don't mind.
@GreedyGiver651 a commie SJW
I already explained I'm not a communist. I don't mind upsetting those with toxic ideas, which an "sjw" usually means they avoid offending others.
@GreedyGiver651 toxic ideas is subjective, to a commie they probably are toxic
@GreedyGiver651 if truth is a hate speech!
I'm not a commie. To me as someone who wants everyone to be treated fairly and respectfed, ideas like yours are toxic
@GreedyGiver651 You clearly don't want everyone to be treated fairly and respected when you're a commie
@GreedyGiver651 how about respecting other opinions?
(read facts)
Do you know what communism is? Either way, that isn't the point, the point is you and your troll friends spread hate speech and bigotry and as much as you try to justify it, it's still toxic.
If your opinion includes hating, harming or infringement on others rights then your opinion needs to be challenged at the very least
@GreedyGiver651 Yeah it's a cancerous ideology which lies about "unifying the workers" when really they want to starve the workers by stealing their food :^)
@GreedyGiver651 trust a commie to jump on the moral high horse and claim that infringing other's rights is wrong
Who are you referring to?
@GreedyGiver651 nobody is hating. We are just sharing some facts you can't comprehend. I've got no problem with tolerance but I don't have to support and believe lies.
Go through the comments and see how many are intolerant at least, many on the post are offensive in general. If you can't find any, then you are wearing blinders.
@GreedyGiver651 "he said mean things on the internet mommy"
@disgustingweebtrash "who did honey? I'll talk to their mother, let the grown ups handle this"
@GreedyGiver651 Facts are not hating.
What facts are you referring to?
@GreedyGiver651 facts you are calling hate speech
Like what?
@GreedyGiver651 you already forgot what you've read above and what you've argued about?
No, I'm asking you to clarify which "facts" you are referring to
@GreedyGiver651 xx and xy. trans is not the same what real woman is and straight men have right not to be attracted to a trans
I'm straight and I'm attracted to women with or without penises.
@GreedyGiver651 "i'm attracted to women WITH OR WITHOUT PENISES"
https://i.imgur.com/lYj4fTp.jpg
@GreedyGiver651 haha sure thing
That is what I said. Yes, just without the caps. I don't feel like following your link though, I'm sure it's meant to be funny or offensive
@disgustingweebtrash that would make a great meme actually lmao
Is your ability to make memes supposed to mean you are right or not hateful?
@GreedyGiver651 >im
>straight
>attracted to women with or without penises
@GreedyGiver651 I just think you have a really great sense of humor.
Again, that's what I said. Should I rephrase? "I'm attracted to women with penises or vaginas"
@disgustingweebtrash @GreedyGiver651 fun fact: a woman with a penis is a man
About what? I wasn't joking. About your hatesspeach and support of it, your bigotry or ignorance
Again, I don't follow links, especially ones where people were just talking about my comment could be a meme. It's not worth the time.
@GreedyGiver651 you're actually wasting your time arguing
Not in my opinion, I chose to spend this time calling our bigots and people like you. Not following links that are probably meant to be funny or offensive
@GreedyGiver651 You know what is funny? Your arguments.
Why is that funny to you? I mean as a bigot you probably do find anything that challenges your hateful beliefs as invalid, so you have to label it or make a joke out of it: commie, lefties, sjw, snowflake etc. Are all just labels so you can write people's opinions off. Bigots usually twist the original term, like "libtard" from liberal. They turn it into an easy little phrase do they can quickly use it to dismiss any argument they don't like. "oh, he's just a commie libtard", I've seen it before. Its name calling, like children do.
@GreedyGiver651 Wow! You've got me sussed. I am impressed.
No, I don't. You are a person, I don't know everything about you from one debate. I'm a person, the op is a person, so is @disgustingweebtrash. I'm not saying I know your life. I do know that on this topic, you spread hate and bigotry, which I'm against. I don't hate you, or any troll. I hate their actions and decisions to harm others for cheep thrills.
So no, I don't have you "Sussed out", i replied to what I saw, which is descrimination and hate. I won't just watch it happen, or accept it. You may say I'm wasting my time, but I enjoy challenging things like this.
@GreedyGiver651 do you even know what sarcasm is? I enjoy it too. Laughing is healthy, isn't it?
I know what sarcasm is and I know you were using it, so I made it to state my point. If you are laughing at the expense of others, or active hate towards others then no it's not. And making a joke off of a real issue with discrimination against trans people is not okay. People die because of the same ideas, you joke about, and use whatever joke or defense you can to separate the idea from yourself or not think about it. But people, just like you and me, around 20 years of their life, ended from hatred. Take every memory you have and chances are the people you hate or joke about have just as many, or more. I don't expect you to suddenly care, but try to understand.
@GreedyGiver651 You clearly don't understand what I am saying. It is just funny how illogical some of your responses are. Not hating, just drawing conclusions. It was fun but I don't see any sense in continuation of this conversation. Farewell!
My responses weren't illogical. You were supporting hateful opinions. I'm glad you had fun contributing to the problem. You don't find any sense in it all of a sudden? What a coincidence. Fine, put your blinders back on and sit in your ignorance
@GreedyGiver651 They're not hateful they're logical, you hate people that state facts therefore you're hateful
Like I said, I don't hate anyone. Not you or any troll. Your "facts" are about sex organs. Thats it. Beyond that, science changes, what are science facts from 30 years ago might be changed by now.
Gender is not biological sex, yet hateful people don't care, as long as they can justify their bigotry. So jokes or trolling or whatever, you are enabling that.
@GreedyGiver651 sounds logical lmao
Laugh your ass off all you want.
@GreedyGiver651 Thanks. What other good jokes do you know?
"The idea of trolling or being sarcastic online as actual humor" is a pretty good joke. Or "how labels used to discredit or invalidate opinions makes your argument or beliefs superior" is pretty funny too. Or wait, one of my favorites "the harmful jokes or ideas I put online have no actual consequences on the quality of other peoples lives, especially if it contributes to a large problem", that one is so ridiculous. Haha funny. Attempting to upset random people on the Internet haha funny. Being a contributer to actual hateful actions is "lmao" funny.
@GreedyGiver651 you should be a comedian
Thanks, I'm glad you agree those ideas were really funny.
They are both hot but I prefer naturally formed breasts not plastic ones.
It seems someone got a bit carried away with the tits don't you think.
It's a tie. Both have masculine arms to a degree. And too much makeup.
I highly doubt that they are transgender!!!
I think your a TROLLLLLLLLL!!!
Wow trans girl 1 looks absolutely amazing. I wish I would have born as a woman. I would never do a surgery to be a girl because maybe I wouldn't be this hot but damn. I say he made the best decision when he decided to become a she. I'm jealous.
They are both pretty, but I think the second one is prettier
I am a transgender girl myself and the first one is soo pretty I look like a male still though 🥲
Because I would like to look as good of transgender woman as her
They are both beautiful.
Wow! They’re both really pretty!
Both are lovely. Don't care what's in their pants.
they ain't transgender you fkin liar
Well done surgeries and transformations gotta say
Wow they have such nice tits and body
I don't believe they are TS
I know right! They are so hot, it's hard to imagine they are actually male. Definitely would've had me fooled if I saw them walking down the street.
@lowercaseguy what do you mean by they are actually male? they're transgender they're both girls what do you mean?
Not right to ask to vote. Both are beautiful.
I personally think number 2
my dick is confused
It's out of nature.. don't like ;)
They're both really pretty and they look so happy
Beautiful number 2 has a great body
... i refuse to vote on this one.
wow second so attractive but sad that is trans.
@maiave its not about that im racist or anything but can't accept it, like she is born in guy body and want man, she change everything and she is fake i mean he is fake, he get pussy and all that stuff and its all fake, when she is fake then relationship is fake. Couldnt accept it , its same as you date trans man right? and when you have feelings actually when you realize you are talking to girl not a men and ur thinking wrong. Im just not into trans, my mind can't accept it
both are
This world getting beyond fucked up.
How would I find a single transgender M to F male?
you need to go Soho
im a sucker for red hair
2nd this is weird
I'd fuck both
hahahaha crazy how they look EXACTLY like a girl, they would have me fooled.
Crazy because they are girls and they aren't fooling anyone.
@GreedyGiver651 They don't have vaginas
Maybe they do?
@GreedyGiver651 They don't
How do you know?
@GreedyGiver651 Because they're transgender women. Not biological females. They were born with a penis
So like I said, they are girls, not fooling anyone. Thanks for your support on that
@GreedyGiver651 They're not actually females though
They are women, like I said, and you said.
@GreedyGiver651 Interesting
I think i'm gay
If you liked either of these women, then you aren't
@GreedyGiver651 I like them
Then you like woman, so if you like men too then you are bi
Which nation are you referring to? These are real women, and are not traps. Death threats will get you everywhere babe ;)
@GreedyGiver651 bongland and the execution is a joke I love @disgustingweebtrash
I've seen you troll a lot before. You two seem to be on the same posts a lot. But it doesn't change the fact you are spreading hate speech and to anyone who reads it and doesn't know you two, they would think you sent a death threat to someone
@GreedyGiver651 Well I don't care what the mental invalids think
Death threats, using terms like "mental invalids" which kinda sounds like eugenics. What else you got?
@GreedyGiver651 what sort of hate speech?
If someone were to look at this conversation without knowing any context of either of you. Stopping right after the death threat. What would they think? They would see one man questioning his sexuality, and another threatening execution to "keep the nation pure".
That sounds like Hate speech and if you accept it or not. The words you type and things you say can spread fear and hatred
@GreedyGiver651 I guess that's why context is so important otherwise you can conflate a semi-joking chat into a hitler speech
@GreedyGiver651 if someone were to look and get scared even though it wasn't aimed at them they're a pussy
I think you're just looking for a reason to bitch
It's not like they would immediately cower in fear. Okay, change the subject of your jokes.
I think I'm Jewish
We have to execute you to keep our nation pure.
Now imagine that most places you go and online are filled with jokes or real statements like that. It grinds away your resolve and ability to feel safe. So your jokes may make you "lol" but it could be something that sends someone over the edge
@GreedyGiver651 no u
@GreedyGiver651 This is gonna be my last response on this cos I see where it's going.
Forget about this jokes everywhere thing that's not my fault. But the way I was joking in a manner which is clear to anyone with context or even without for the most part would only send an incredibly fragile person with no critical thinking skills that would probably end themselves over anything slightly challenging.
@Josht13 inshallah brother he's being islamophobic
Josh, where is this going? Your intentions and context mean nothing to anyone but yourself or your those you explain it to.
To say anyone who is upset by this has no critical thinking skills and is fragile. Is ignorent to say the least. Live in your fantasy where your words don't effect anyone, but in reality they do. And I hope for your own sake, you don't have to personally witness the outcome
Which one revolver?
@GreedyGiver651 The UK
I'm in a different nation. Still, I hope you never have a say in what "pure" means for the UK.
@GreedyGiver651 Not that you'd care for another Western nation, thought about opening your borders to refugees yet?
Again, which nation are you assuming I'm in?
I do care about other nations, I said I hope his idea of "pure" is never pushed on the UK. There are many things I wish I could change about my country, but don't have the power to.
@GreedyGiver651 You're from the United States assumedly
And the changes you'd most likely want is full communism lol
No, I'm a democratic sociolist. So a wider range of social programs and assistance to the people in my country, with more restrictions on harmful practices.
Full communism, like full capitalism, cannot exist is the real world. I wouldn't want either, there is a balence, and right now, the USA is balenced too far capitalist.
first one
Whoa! Both are!
The first looks best
The 2nd one
Both
They are both hot
both...
i fuck the first one
@Josht13 Why so demeaning? I find it odd - so you're not into transgender women or guys, ok that's your choice - but why say stuff like that to someone who is?
I’d say number 1
both are pretty.
Both look pretty ❣️
No 1
#2 for sure
Left
Both are stunning
no lol
ewwwwwwww
That's not an answer
Both equally pretty
Red head definitely
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