
Have women gone too far with plastic surgery or is it a result of mens unrealistic expectations of our bodies?


I think it's a cyclic process. Let's say... 60 years ago there was a "10" then the wonderbra comes out, and a 9 can be a 10, and 10 is the new 11 if you can afford it. So on and so forth.
Since that time people haven't changed from being, well, people, but "enhancement" technology most certainly has, so that "10" from 60 years ago without modern make-up, a push-up bra, leaving out any plastic surgery, presenting herself today might be a 7 or 8, when in her grandmother's time she's causing hearts to go a-flutter.
Beauty is subjective, but after hours under the knife, months of recovery, a professional make-up team, wardrobe, and a photographer for that perfect look, I could see a great many beautiful women thinking they just aren't beautiful enough and going under the knife.
Honestly I don't think men are so much to blame there as we are horn dogs, and in reality a body like the one you have in the picture would be uncomfortable as hell to have sex with.
I think it's that cyclic pressure, and really, pressure from other women who do have that look and internally that keeps it going.
I think it's your own fault. I don't think men are as picky as women think. Sure there are guys who like big boobs, but there are just as many who like medium and even small boobs. Women seem to get more compliments and have more options than men do to the point that women seem more likely to complain about having too many men interested in them than they are to complain about having too few. Hell, a decent portion of men seem to get off pictures of feet so I just don't buy this narrative that men's standards are so sky high that it is driving women to insanity.
If a woman decides on plastic surgery, that is a choice "she" made. How is that a man's fault or men's expectations?
People can expect whatever,
but noone can force or should be blamed for what these women choose to do to their bodies. Which, yes people are going way too far, with plastic surgery, with just fake everything these days.
Be the real you. How do people ever expect someone to accept someone for themselves if themselves is
"all fake'. Accept/love yourselves, flaws and all and others will too.
I would never go to those extremes, but if I did, I wouldn't blame men and men's expectations.
People really need to stop the blame game
OMG, she is disgusting! The problem is some women think they have to have these looks because they have no self esteem and no brains. They are just buying into an unrealistic expectation by a certain breed of men. Not all men expect their women to look like the pic unless they are just into that look for sex. But for marrying I don't think that is what they are looking for- a girl who is a relative of the Michelin Man. All pumped up like a Macy Day's Parade balloon.


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It's not necessarily men's unrealistic expectations, but the simple fact that men will lean towards more exaggerated features and graphic content when they are exposed to it and we live in a world when men are literally surrounded by it in a way that is normal women who are neither graphic, nor exaggerated, nor fake, feel too boring for some guys. It's like a drug to men. This is why you see more men leaving their good loyal wives for someone with bigger tits and men expect us to be super vulgar, which we're not. Even the porn actresses are 'acting'. And because it is a fool proof way to draw men's attention, naturally more women craving it would choose that path of plastic surgery and Photoshop.
It's become a chain reaction. Men are getting more graphic content and as they get used to it they want more, and as more and more women are getting surgery and looking so alike, they are getting even more exaggerated to get more attention.
Some women, like the one in the photo, turn themselves into grotesque caricatures. They are like cartoons. I can't imagine what kind of man would be attracted to such a thing. But I think those women do it to themselves because, in their twisted minds, they "think" men will be more attracted to them and they "think" they will be more attractive than other women.
They mutilate themselves because of low self esteem. And they'll continue to mutilate themselves further and further because nothing will ever fix their mental problem. It's like an anorexic who sees fat every time she looks into a mirror even though she is actually a walking skeleton on the verge of death.
funnily enough it's mostly misguided opinions of what men look for which tbf the majority of guys would not want this... where as some women go the plastic surgery route cos of their own self opinions, or cos they want bigger breasts as their's aren't big enough to attract a good man/woman... and some go this route cos they are too afraid of asking those they are with...
and many of those who they are with would gladly tell them they look perfect anyway...
the issue is that a good partner often wants to support their gf's in what choices they feel are important to them
so it really isn't fair to lay the reasoning on one or the other...
if it isn't broke dont fix it ;)
I don't think it is all men's fault for women doing things to their bodies. it is my opinion that sometimes women feel inadequate, even though they're not, and go over board in augmenting parts of their bodies. Just like women who wear leggings and show every crevice of their body; men didn't ask them to wear those. On the other hand, I can see where a woman that is flat chested would want to increase her bust size; I get that. I also understand why a short and petite man would want to wear shoes with inserts to make him taller and want to build body mass so he feels more attractive. I also think that women and men alike sometimes try and look to please and be accepted among their own sex. I don't mean they're gay, but they want to fit in and have that look of their peers.
Really you're gonna blame men?
It's your body and you decide what you do with it. The woman in the picture I think looks absolutely ridiculous. Almost like some kinda perverted cartoon character.
I think majority of women look fine just the way they are. If you have some sort of deformity then yes I think getting surgery is fine.
But getting surgery to such an extreme just because you want to morph your body into something else I think is dumb and a total waste of money.
But ultimately it's her body and she could do whatever she wants. Just don't expect me to like it.
They've gone way to far. The problem is not men, The problem is women try to live up to what the media portays, magazine covers, Instagram models. They start comparing thereselves to all this unrealistic images and getting insecure and unhappy about their bodies. It starts to get so bad they choose plastic surgery to enhance what features they 'think' they lack. In fact most men i know hate plastic surgery on women. Some beautiful women fuck there self up because of some false ideal. Men and women are becoming more and more unhappy and according to science women are unhappier than ever. Accept yourself because plastic surgery makes you a lot more ugly
It's women's fault. Most guys expectations aren't that high.
Wow woe wow I just had this convo with a girlfriend of mine. I had asked her if we're more hard on our appearance than men are... i think men are a lot simpler than we think
We are a lot simpler than you think. It's why there's so much miscommunication between the sexes. Women genuinely think we're over here trying to solve world hunger with everything that we think, when in reality we're probably just wondering what we want to eat or why you can't decide on something yourself. 🤷🏾♂️
Very much agee
That woman looks disgusting.
I do believe that some women have a psychological problem when they go this far. I do see surgery as a problem and I think it’s more the media’s unrealistic portrayal of women not men. However most people who get surgery don’t go to this extreme
Women are the ones obsessed with their bodies not men. In fact if you look at the average pornstar, the most popular ones are average height, average breast size, with average builds, and are brunettes (this was an actual study that was done). If you look at ideal body type for women based upon what men say and what women say, men's ideal body type is actually slightly heavier then women's and women's ideal body type is more slight, with larger bust then what men said was ideal. Men are happy with what they can get and most will tell you they hate the plastic look, but women do it anyway because lets be hoenst since when has a woman ever cared about a guys opinion?
I've come to understand that there are men with BIG MONEY that like women to look the way this woman does in ur picture. A woman going to these lengths is trying to get BIG MONEY, not trying to please the average man.
Very true , I'll have to post on this
It's women's fault. No dude cares. Society can't be like "Oh look how skinny all these models are, it's unhealthy. This is men's fault for their unrealistic expectations" and then turn around and say "look at these women ruining their bodies with surgery because men want them bigger" it's fucking contradictory. The real issue is that insecurity is a goddamn epidemic for women but women hate owning up to shit so they just shift blame. Hard to believe men will fuck anything that walks when apparently we're so picky to the point women do this, right? Give me a fucking break
Troll answer: yes men are responsible and I'm proud of it. She is hot!
Real answer: No dude wants a girl who looks like that... That ain't us. Girls did this to themselves. You guys are always comparing yourselves to other women and throwing natural beauty in the trash. The problem can't be men because we are attracted to beautiful women. y'all just go to far with it. Blame the media. They made y'all believe beauty is so important that y'all wear makeup and get work done on your bodies. There is nothing wrong with that by the way. I think women are trying to be sexy instead of attractive.
Me: Hollywood
Women can't blame this one on men. They keep saying that men have low standards and will sleep with anyone. Well, if that was true, then there'd be no need to get all that plastic surgery. Its the women's inherent insecurity that drives them to do it.
I LOVE the hypocrisy of questions like this. No man walking the planet wants his S. O. to look like that thing or any of the creatures it resembles.
Yet women, who have all of the relationship power and reject men for the slightest flaw, are always trying to say that they do this because of "our" unrealistic expectations.
What they're trying real hard not to say is that these women do this only for that special 2-4% of men they consider hot enough... the ones they kill their own children for
WE don't and have never asked you to look like a sci-fi toy
I like how it’s still men’s fault. What happened to our body our choice. You women can never take responsibility that’s why your feminism is bs and you women are stupid and getting annoying and why guys don’t want relationships with modern women you are superficial trash who blame men for everything
Most normal people who get plastic surgery don't go over the top like that. They're just attention whores who like looking like a breeze will bowl them over and a bump on a table end will pop them.
bit of both.
I prefer a natural looking woman.
cosmetic surgery for enhancement just does not appeal to me. then again cosmetic surgery for repair/replacement for that which was lost/damage is fine. provided it is rather close to the original look.
That has NOTHING to do with men. I highly fucking doubt a sane man would ever want his partner to look like a fake blown up doll. at this point, why not just buy a real doll? Literally the same thing. So yes, women have gone too far with plastic surgery. They want to look extreme and think they look good and sexy that way. No, it looks fake and disgusting.
Well-said!
I would say both. They don't even look like women anymore, hell Barbie looks more natural and that is sad. I don't know where they are getting this idea that looking like a cartoon character is the best way to go. 😕
They look like trannys
Umm actually i think trannys often look better. 😂😂
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I think it has, definitely. You should stay the way you were born, or at least close to it. I could understand getting a nose job or something if it really makes someone feel insecure about themselves, but going as far as changing almost everything about yourself I believe is wrong. I don't really think it's generally the man's doing of any of this. The truth is that men, if they are worth it, will like a woman for who she is, regardless of how her body looks or any other physical feature of hers
I am personally against plastic surgery in 97% of the cases. Getting a breast reduction for medical reasons I support whole heartedly. As fo doing it simply for cosmetic reasons, I have to disagree with it for the most part. Having excess skin removed after weight loss, yeah. that's acceptable too.
I don’t think a decent man would expect you to change how you look. Some make up, a manicure, a pedicure, a hair blowout are all things that are reasonable and I assume would make a woman feel good about herself, just like we men like to trim our beards, fade our hair, be as hygienic as a man could be lol. I wouldn’t want my girl to change how she looks at all not even get a nose job (even if she had a roller coaster for a nose).
Fake looking girls are gross.
It fucking boggles my mind that women would get plastic surgery to look good in an age where 70%+ of women are overweight. Being skinny is 100x more important than big boobs, lips, colors, whatever.
Do you people not realize how fucking attractive an average woman who's been going to to gym looks to guys? It's pure insanity.
This is just female problem that they push over on us. You know the amount of guys that DEMAND that body is ridiculously small, but still stuff yourself up and then blame us when you look like a doll and it looks like shit afterwards. Why not just grow some confidence and stop blaming us for your choice?
Y'all did that shit to yourselves. We just want naturally pretty girls, not synthetically manufactured barbies. If you're a 6/10 in looks, and you think plastic surgery will magically make you a 9, then you're a rube. Its better to accept the fact you're a 6, learn to highlight your best natural features, find a style you feel sexy and confident in, and then leave the rest to the universe. Go live your life as a real woman, not a botox filled 50 year old trying to act like her 20s never ended
Not many people go that far, nor is it something new. Plastic surgery is more common but there will always be people who get addicted to anything, just look at body builders. Should we blame body builders on women? Nope, they mostly do it to impress and compete with other men since most women don't find that attractive anyway and it's also extremely unhealthy. Same for women, they competr with women despite knowing most men want a natural looking girlfriend
It's women that find a niche path for attention. Most of us men (expecially us straight men), impose no such expectations.
Who does though? I flip on a television and I see nothing but gay men and women passing all these judgements off on women. Or it's the women herself, that's developed a taste for a niche source of attention.
Too huge boobs and butt & hip implants go too far
while they may look hella sexy, there are often medical complications like the boob skin getting too thin and implants breaking through the skin and coming out.
Also, if you ever want to go smaller, your skin is saggy and you have to have skin cut to look good again.
look at the kardashians and Kylie Jenner with their butt/hip implants. Nikki Minaj & carde bee
Honestly, I think some girls make that choice themselves. You do however have a point. Although it's up to a girl to choose. Keeping in mind that girls do also use it to make them smaller too, which I support. In fact, I prefer it natural but I might encourage some girls with heavier than normal or flat chested, to Maybe get a slight adjustment so they can feel more comfortable withselves and other women.
I would say it has gone too far. I don't think it's off a guys unrealistic standards. That idea comes from a select group of guys that can get almost any women so they can be more picky. The average guy will find you beautiful with you just trying to be healthy.
They do it to make money because they lack good skills in life so all they can do is use their body to make a living. The ones that do that are pathetic.
Very true, this will have to my next post.
I've never heard of a man hitting a woman over the head, dragging her to some shady clinic and forcing her to have surgery, so no, it's not a man's responsibility what a woman chooses to do to her own body.
Women have simply gone too far. Usually they believe it will make them appealing but most men don't even like bodies like that. It isn't realistic... Like maybe to look at, it can be nice to the right person, but to be with a person like that just seems like a terrible idea.
Im not a guy BUT! I would hazard a guess and say that most men will not find the lady in that picture attractive. Or, if they do, it’s only a fleeting sexual attraction.
Personally, I think women should do whatever makes them happy. But if so, they need to be prepared to accept that a certain “look” will only attract a certain “type” of man
Yes they've gone too far, no it has nothing to do with us or what we want. This madness is what happens when stank hoes with distorted body images refuse to admit that they've destroyed their bodies and wasted their youth sucking random dicks, so they desperately try to continue to compete with younger girls who still have their looks in order to keep attracting guys.
Women like this would be a fun roll in the sack, but I'd never take them home to see my parents.
To change their bodies in this way, to me is just one big sign above their heads that says "I have nothing else to offer men, and likely have serious daddy issues. Please tell me I'm pretty!".
I never said I like big boobs. The woman in the picture look so unattractive. Some women do plastic surgery with their own want. Why do you blame men for women's actions? This is not fair. Women should learn to get responsibility for their own actions. You women are always escape from responsibilities.
I’d fuck that fake plastic bimbo just for the experience lol
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I think the porn industry has Def being a huge influence
I dont think so. I think fashion industry and celebrity worship is more to blame.
Hmmm not as much as you think... Good night
Women: We don't wear makeup or do our hair or get dressed up for men. We do it for ourselves!
Also women: We get hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of plastic surgery, spend thousands of dollars in makeup, hair products, and cute clothes because of men's unrealistic beauty standards!
Come on, ladies. Don't you see how ridiculous you look? Most of us would prefer you without all that crap anyway.
Want some dark humor?
If i wanted to sleep with a plastic woman i would have ordered 1 off Amazon.
Render your boos here______
Ooooh no... men should not take any blame for this. Men tell women all the time not to do plastic - and they still do. This is a woman's vanity at play and not men having "unrealistic expectations".
I think it may be more a matter of this is what women believe men want.
Most don’t. In fact, most of the men I know don’t even like makeup.
This is women's own imagination. No normal man would like to love these extra sized boobs and ass.
Dont blame this on men... The vast majority of men tell women not to get work done... If it were us influencing their decisions to go under the knife then they likely would do it less.
As a girl who loves and has plenty of plastic surgery,
I will even go to say that pic is TOO much and looks ridiculous.
A lot of women go overboard trying to look attractive, and it's almost always of their own accord. Most guys either don't care that much, or are turned off by the blatant fakeness of it.
Yes, that's why Reputable Plastic Surgeons are refusing to give certain women what they want. What some of these Crazy Bitches are asking for is dangerous so some of them end up going to Surgeons that sacrifice safety. Some women get Ass Injections and end up getting cancer of the ass. They end up having no ass at all. Rump Roast Anyone?
It's women who drive other women to do this. I can't tell you how many times I've heard other women gossiping about another woman's appearance. I've heard my own family talk about a new girlfriend and how she just isn't attractive enough to be with such and such. Women are constantly trying to look better than other women. Men are just on the sideline watching it happen and we take what we can get.
For sure, women need to know they are beautiful without the plastic... I know a lot do it for themselves and if they absolutely have no tits I understand. But i mean zero tits... But a-cups on up is beautiful and natural, natural drives me crazy😋
I think they’ve gone too far with it. Recently saw a photo of a girl who did plastic surgery to make herself look like a doll. Seeing her photos gave me goosebumps. I’m not against plastic surgery but it was just too much and creepy.
Why is there always some attempt to blame "men" for this? It's just patently ridiculous. Are you saying that women are just getting wall-to-wall rejected by men unless they get a ton of plastic surgery? Really? Cause that's not what I witness whenever I'm at a bar around closing time.
There may be MANY reasons girls want to get an inordinate amount of plastic surgery, but "because of men" is probably not high on the list.
Other than porn, yes. These days guys will screw anything sexually entice them.
You know how many times he backside and worshipped other gods before God? That is why under his rule he had multiple problems on and off. He was King, they couldn't tell him anything. But it was still sin. That's why God had it for Paul to write to the Corinthians to let every man have his own wife and every woman her own husband IF they cannot contain. That's it. Soloman also fornicated with the Queen of Sheba and she got pregnant. And they were to remain separated because of the sin. I know my Bible.
It has nothing to do with me not knowing my Bible. It's a fact that you're pretty much making excuses to allow sinful nature to go on, even though you're very aware that God calls it sin to do these things. Doesn't matter what Solomon did, or other people had did in the past. It's what God said being wrong.
That's really saddest part of the life old day we had beutiful ladies out their now these days plastic surgery had just messed with the beauty of the women that was already present in them now they Just want to satisfy others by modifying their natural beauty. really sad
I think some women have but also plastic surgery has been around for some time now. We see women with it more often because we have social media whereas back then selfies weren’t as prevalent
She doesn’t even look good to me. In this case yes. I would argue that it’s not only because of societal expectations brought by men but personal insecurities as well.
Women can go as far as they like to go with there own body's. If it's there choice. That choice should be made without any external pressure. Sadly throughout history society created a beauty standard wich pressures both genders to conform to it. This leads to poorly made choices. We should all try and appreciate our fellow humans for who they are.
Oh God.. Too far. Not one man that I know would find that woman attractive.
On a side note.. The fashion industry, Beaty mags, and relationship mags.. All run by women... Women are the ones that set the expectations not men..
Hint: most men don't actually like fake boobs. That lip injection stuff makes you look retarded.
Men don't have unrealistic expectations.
Women who do that are just dumb and it's only their fault.
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