Androgynous men are men with some feminine traits such as hairless body and so on. Male k-pop stars are the best example
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For some reason guys with some feminine traits are very popular and liked by young girls. For me they are most beautiful men because they look like fairies but masculine looking men are attractive too
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Both typ of men are very attractive. I just notice that androgynous men like k-pop stars and E-Boys or some other male celebrities are liked by girls lol. Of course androgynous men can be masculine too. Both masculine and androgynous looking men are very attractive for me as i said.
Do you think androgynous men are more attractive than super masculine men or vice versa?
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Kpop stars can be attractive but if i had a chance to be with one. I honestly wouldn't take up that opportunity. They dont seem manly to me, they look so soft and too much make up ( I dont mind a clean face, hairless armpit and chest). I like men who feel masculine. There are few male kpop stars that feels manly to me for example Wonho.
Did it occur to you that I honestly don't give two fucks? I'm sure you are probably one of those social media influences who gets all depressed when someone dislikes her stuff. But just because you stick around and fight i think you deserve it.
Most of the male comments are by guys so insecure about their sexualities they have to try and convince people they are straight by lashing out and calling androgynous guys Homophobic slurs, these morons in the comments don't realize androgenetic features have nothing to do with sexuality and neither was the question asking about their sexualities.
I myself don't need to come in the comments saying that "I'm no fag" or attack the sexualities of the guys in the pictures because I'm straight and I have no issues with other people's sexualities and I can read and comprehend what the question was about.
So to answer the question that was asked.
I don't think one is more attractive than the other, both have variables that make the set person attractive or not.
Masculinity does not mean you're attractive, sure it might contribute some but it's not the deciding factor. I've always been on the muscular side and yet I have a very ugly face as I have been told throughout my life, even had a girl tell me she would date me if my face was different. I did have a year after giving up on trying to find love and whatever that I let go of myself and got chubby and boy did I hear about how ugly I was at that point. I only started working out again after that year because I hate my face and can't do anything about it unless I had a lot of money. I've also heard plenty of females throughout my life talk about ideal guys and muscular was never a top type and even the ones who said they liked muscular men said there was a lot of other aspects the guy needed in order to be attractive, facial features, personality, skills, talents, ambitions etc. etc.
Androgynous guys are considered attractive because of their physical features, also androgynous doesn't mean the guy can't be muscular, I've had friends who were just cut and their muscles defined but in shirts they looked like their shoulders weren't broad or that they didn't have muscles and it's because they didn't have big frames and if they had long hair like most of my friends did because we were metalheads they kind of looked like chicks at certain angles. As for Kpop Idols it's the same they may look a certain way now but a lot of them without shirts actually have toned bodies and even ones who are toned still are considered attractive by females because of other reasons, attractive faces, multi talented, skill sets, confidence, personality etc. Etc.
So no I don't think one is set in stone as more attractive, it stems down to the person, their personality, skills, talents, confidence, and more importantly the person who sees them as attractive.
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I totally agree with you! I think I express myself bad. Androgynous men can have some masculine traits such as muscles etc as you said.
The 1st 2 guys are from BTS most famous kpop group name 1 jeoun Jung kook and kim tae hyung actually i am their huge eeee fan so that's why became little excited for this Q i do like kpop boys much but many peopl douby on their sexuality i hate that most like we live in 2021 still people have that mentality choices are dif from people to people but what hurts most is the problem they face many people make fun of me for liking kpop guys besides their talent and skills those idiots only focuse on their looks even of they are they one of the best visual exist
I think when men are very young, teens and early 20s, they look more androgynous than later in life when secondary sex characteristics crop up: heavier beards, musculature.
When I was younger I liked pretty boys more than now. I don't like musclebound men with heavy beards, but the pix of the first guy looks like a girl to me and I don't find that sexy.
I can see why YOUNG women like this though. These young guys are non threatening and look almost like them. Big hairy apes are scary.
But as I've gotten older, I've found that the more masculine looking guys are no more "masculine" than fem boys. It's simply a physical look someone has that has little to do with their personality.
The bottom picture is not androgynous-looking. That's Björn Andrésen as a teen in the 1970s. He's older than me by about 8 years. So, these pictures of him are from the 1970s and that's what most boys, including me, looked like then. That was not considered androgynous-looking at all.
For comparison, this is me at the end of the 1970s (zits and all) and the girls told me that I had the best hair in high school. They did not think I was gay or androgynous-looking.
No nono nononoo no non no. Why? Do they seem less intimidating?
I don't like men who are as sensitive as women, or focus on vanity as much as women. It's the complete opposite for me. Total turn off. I don't like hyper-sexuality though. Strippers aren't a turn on, nor are bodybuilders, men who cage fight or fight for entertainment faked sport.
I like regular guys, who are very different than women, but are evolved mentally, emotionally. And I would not call them at all feminine or not masculine. They are the evolved modern man. (Which also existed 20 years ago when I was dating them.)
No, androgynous men are not more attractive than super masculine men. I'm attracted to men that look manly, mainly men with a lean and athletic body build, neatly groomed facial hair, and short, close haircuts. I only prefer longer hair on men if the style is dreadlocks, which should also be the masculine type. Androgynous men resemble women, more specifically soft butch lesbians too greatly and I have no sexual attraction towards women. In addition, I prefer to feel secure and protected with the man I'm dating. Androgynous men are not convincing tough guys. For example, if some other guy hit on me when I was out but disrespected and/or assaulted me when I rejected him, I can't trust my androgynous man to handle that situation because androgynous men look like they would be easily intimidated and overpowered by more aggressive, physically stronger men.
I think they're both good. I never cared much about style but in the future I wanna try out some Kpop influenced stuff. Because I'm into it and I think it could suit me too ^^
Many women would drop an androgynous guy they're dating for a masculine guy, but wouldn't drop a masculine guy for an androgynous guy. Hence why most girls who claim to prefer androgynous guys are like 14-18 years old: they just haven't experienced what it is to be with a truly masculine man yet, so they have no frame of reference for what they're missing. Once they're in early 20s and have more dating experience, they typically "discover" that masculine men make their erogenous zones tingle in a way that androgynous men do not.
@123lucy not even slightly the same thing. Besides, I'm speaking from what I've observed many times with my own eyes. Sure there are outliers, but 9 times out of 10 I've personally witnessed girls pass over effeminate/androgynous guys for more "traditionally" masculine guys. I could be wrong of course, but it would be disingenuous for me to say "oh its fine I totally haven't seen this happen time and time again". I know what I've seen and heard
It's also possible, I suppose, that my conception of "androgynous" is different to some other, more common definition. But by and large, the general tendency seems to be that feminine women gravitate towards masculine men, and vice versa. Polarities attract. Doesn't mean guys who are outside the traditional definition of "masculine" cannot date successfully. I've known a few guys I'd characterise as metrosexual who did very well with women. And I'm certainly no gatekeeper of "the old traditions", in many ways I'm quite unlike the stereotypical "manly man". But I'm speaking in general patterns here, and the general pattern is that the masculine attracts the feminine and vice versa. Yin and Yang.
If you haven't seen it, look up the results of the Mouse Eutopia experiments of the 60s and 70s and you might find more insightful answers there. Specifically, mice listed as the "Beautiful Ones". Of more interest is how they got that way.
If you're automatically going to dismiss science experiments as b/s, then it sounds like you've ready to dismiss everything as b/s. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now.
Depends on the guy. I like a masculine looking guy myself but with I guess you could say "feminine" details like a few painted nails, or just very attentive to hygiene and cleaning himself up like shaving and taking care of his skin/appearance. If he also has tattoos that brings it to a whole other level.
I'm a dude and comfortable enough with my masculinity to know when I see an attractive male. And to me, adrogynous men are an abomination. They don't look attractive in the slightest. For someone to look attractive, that usually means they are attractive to the opposite sex.
Rare that androgynous guys are widely liked by girls when you remove the fame/status component. They're usually in a band or something that provides some status.
Not to say girls don't like those guys. You just don't commonly see it unless they have some level of fame/status in a group. That said there are plenty of skinny dudes that do really well with girls who don't have status. But they're also not androgynous.
There are other androgynous men out there in the world from otehr nationalities. Not just K-pop stars exclusively. Like the example below. He is a famous Australian fashion model.
To begin with, long hair is masculine not androgynous or feminine. I don't view the third guy as androgynous. He is definitely masculine. As for k-pop stars, they are aesthetically attractive but not sexually attractive to me. A hairless body is not feminine either. A man can be extremely masculine without body hair.
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I did not say long hair feminine and i am speaking in the perspective of the society. Female body hair are seen as masculini while hairless male body is seen feminine. Both is is stupid. I just use the term femininie and masculine so people understand my point. For hairless body ain't femininie or whatever
Yes, super masculine is not my thing, I like a good mix. Someone who can look and act cute and pretty at times and at other times more intense and traditional masculine. That is rare though, so I just prefer and go for someone cute looking :)
If a woman thinks androgynous looking men are more attractive than masculine men, then she obviously has lesbian tendencies. The only exception I can think of is women under maybe 18 or 20. They my think that more feminine looking men are less intimidating and not be ready for a real man yet.
If a man thinks androgynous looking men are attractive he is gay.
I don't like the style of korean idols, they're too "cute" in an unnatural way, I much prefer korean actors, they feel more real. In a general way I don't feel attracted by androgynous men but I think they're intriguing sometimes.
I don’t really get or see the appeal of Androgyny, but if that’s what someone wants to be, I’m not gonna stand in their way. I still prefer to be masculine.
Definitely vice versa, can't stand feminine men. Maybe its because of how i was raised but feminine men seem weak and more like a girl friend than a man id be romantically interested in.
That's not androgynous... Ren from nuestand Amber of F (X) are androgynous because they don't fit either gender look really. V and Jungkook are just feminine and mkre boyish looking. There is a massive difference on what you mean here.
Reminds me of me when I was younger. Could pas as female better than male. But as I've got older the wrinkles are starting. But I find it easy to date girls.
More so I'm envious of androgynous men, they are so pretty it's not fair lol. As far as being attractive, I really couldn't say without actually meeting them first..
No it's how our society was created, and we don't have to follow it. You can go and be all traditionally masculine and whatever, but that doesn't mean all men should have to follow you.
@123lucy Incorrect. It's how we are created, biology is a clear witness. Men are of a rougher, stronger and bigger build for a reason. Women are more slender, shapely and pronounced in areas such as breasts and hips for a reason. It's not a question of wanting to follow or not, it is reality, and it isn't a bad one. You can dislike it as much as you want but it will never change because of that. There is a massive issue of mental health due to sexual confusion among people of today. The suicide rates among transsexuals are 40% for instance.
@123lucy Social gender roles that have naturally developed from biological traits. It's one thing to be overly rigid about them, and another to entirely dismiss them as if they do not matter at all. Both ditches are wrong.
Nope. It's hardly due to "transphobia". Trans people are celebrated as gods by society as soon as they "come out". It's because they regret their transitions.
@alexanderanttila You know that different cultures especially in the past have all sorts of different things about gender? It's not all based in biology. Of course it makes sense that a man who is stronger would be the one who does things where you need to be stronger. That's how we evolved. But that doesn't mean we have to follow things like that now in a modern society where having a job can be nothing like it was back then. Just because (literally) ages ago men were more suited to go hunting, doesn't mean that now men should be the only ones having a job that has nothing to do with hunting.
"Trans people are celebrated as gods by society as soon as they "come out". It's because they regret their transitions" - You clearly have no idea what it is like for a trans person coming out. You are incredibly misinformed. And how many depressed/suicidal trans people have you actually talked to? There are so many trans people who are like that because of transphobia they have experienced. Do you genuinely think transphobia does not exist and life is just perfect for trans people and they're "celebrated as gods"? Where did you get that from? Not the average trans person, that's for sure. You have no idea what you are talking about.
@123lucy This is not about job suitability. This is simply about the fact that the lines between genders aren't to be blurred as with "androgynous" men. It goes against God's design, it's a rebellion against our intended creation and perverts our natural and true beauties, men and women both.
The go-to retort. "You clearly have no idea". But I do. And I have little reason to think you know more than I. If you believe there is naught but transphobia out there then you have obviously closed your eyes to mainstream media and political discourse, as well as academia and certain scientific institutes who frequently try to silence any and all critique against the lgbtq community and who praises all people who "come out" stating they're "transgender, gender fluid" or what have you, saying such things as "you're so brave, you're so strong". But feelings do not outweigh truth, a born man is not a woman, a born woman is not a man. I do not endorse any harassment or abuse of people who've undergone transsexualism at all. That does not however change my aforementioned stance.
Phobia, in its root means fear. To be afraid of something. And its is stupidly tossed around by people like you at anyone who merely disagrees with transsexualism being natural. I am not afraid of anyone. I simply fervently oppose lies, and encouragement of mental illness. https://youtu.be/b3T_QpR4FhU?list=WL I recommend this video on this topic. A serious doctor who explains the horrendous levels of propaganda and lies fed to people on this matter.
We to me definitely sense I'm at least 90% straight lol. Yeah I think the girl boys look better than the lumberjacks, I had to bang one it be adroganos guy.
TBH, it's a bit weird for women to be especially attracted to a more feminine lookin man.. As masculinity is men, so basically they are sayin that they are not as attracted to me unless they have a tinge more female in them.
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Everyone is invidual. Men also ain't attracted to natural female body traits like body hair which does not make sense since pubes and armpits are actually secondary female sexual traits
Well, most women are not as hairy normally as men even if they didn't shave.. Also a lot of mem see a hairy women as a masculine thing. 😅.. Whereas when a women likes a dude specifically because he is a male with female attributes it's a bit different.. Not that it's inherently a bad thing, but it seems like they like them because they are closer to being pretty like a woman. Also, I wouldn't call them gay either.. They could be straight as an arrow..
Every adult woman have armbits and pubes. I am not talking about leg/arm hair. Armbits and pubes are secondary sexual traits. You can look up. Men see it manly due to society. In germanic countries female hair was very normal decades ago and there are still many middle aged men who hate shaved vagina and armbits since they think it look like a kid's body to them. So biologically it does not make sense that you dont like it and you are like this because of societal standards in western. In asia women still dont shave their pubes/armbits and no man have a problem with it. I dont judge you. You can like what you want
It is just interesting to me. If the society pressure men to shave themself for many decades, many women also dont like body hair on men. You can like what you like. Each their own
Well okay, shaving is not natural.. A lot of women also like a men with a neatly shaven beard or even a clean shaven face.. But they still like him for his manly attributes.. Same with shaven women.. Yeah it's a cultural thing, but a lot of men don't like it because they don't perceive it as feminine, not womanly, whereas you like men who look like a mix between a man and a woman.. Also, I personally don't mind if a woman doesn't shave as long as she is clean. I didn't say you couldn't like what you wanted, I just said that it was weird that women would especially like guys just cause they kina look like women.. Cause I don't usually see that with men.. In fact if a woman has masculine traits she is considered less attractive by men and women..
I think every women is different like men. Some men like even hairy women. I dont think it is weirs. There are still a lot women who like super masculine looking men. I personally think a masculine body and soft face look is the best. Super masculine men look scary to me. I dont know. Maybe i am like this since i grew up with k-pop that have many 'feminine' singers with hot bodies lol. Each their own. As i said there are many women who like super masculine looking hairy men
"I personally think a masculine body and soft face look is the best.".. Hey that's fine.. And well hey masculinity can be a lot of things.. I mean me myself am not super duper masculine.. But yeah I figure super masculine men usually scare or slightly intimidate women who prefer more feminine lookin guys.. Either that or they don't really like manly traits much.. That's why I said it was weird.. Because it's almost like they like female traits more but they ain't gay so they want them on a male.. Somewhat.
Lol. I actually think males are stupid weird who hate female bodyhair but each their own. By the way I will give you an example. Nobody look 100% feminine or male. For example masculine men tend to have square faces. The word androgynous is exagerated. Maybe this is why you react so weird. This so called androgynous men do also have masculine traits. That is why i differ between super masculine men who almost only have masculine traits and "androgynous" men who have some female traits like most men. Like curves are female traits but some women have small curves or some women have square shape faces but men still love them. The men in the pics wear a liitle make up due to the company but without make up look they soft normal male faces with body of abs.
This female model has a square which made her look like a little masculine
No way! But the second image is very attractive and I think that he looks quite masculine.
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I think they're both attractive. One of the reasons that male Kpop stars look more feminine us bc in South Korea masculinity is viewed differently than in places like the us etc
Well, I'm not into men, so it really doesn't matter to me. If we're talking strictly about aesthetics, I guess both can look good, if done right.
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kinda hard to say. its like i find both types extremely attractive but i only get attracted to masculine men? lol okay both are equally attractive but the males i fall for and be crushing hard on mostly always belong to the masculine type.
Im very masculine and women actually seek me out for it. So definitely a lot like that. Never been a soy boy before but most i know dont seem to get a lot of action.
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