The thing is armpit and pubic hair are secondary sexual traits but it is unattractive for many men which does not biologically make sense. I dont know, why the society want women to look like kids and be also innocent, pure and asexuell like kids lol. Itis kinda pedophilic since bodyhair like pubic hair is a sign that you ain't kid anymore. However, it is ok if men prefere shaved women but it is not ok to bodyshame hairy wome. I also think nobody should leave its partner for small things like this. Will these men seriously divorce their wifes because of bodyhair? I only shave my pubic and armpits hair. I dont like shaving my legs since the leg hair is visible after one day. I prefere waxing but i suck at it and a man who would help me to wax would be perfect
I would help my wife wax if she needed help.
It’s not “pedophilic”. Quit parroting feminism cheap shot bullshit.
Men are generally much hairier given the higher amounts of testosterone in our bodies. It’s a sign of masculinity. Smooth skin looks more much feminine. Most of us like smooth skin on women for that reason only NOT because we want women to look children. That’s disgusting.
Look no one is forcing you to shave or not to shave. Some guys on here say they have no problem with it, so the more power to them.
I personally don’t expect women to shave every day. It’s a lot of surface area and a lot of maintenance. I respect the grooming hassle women have to deal with here. Really I do. If I ever met a woman who said she would only shave if I shaved then i would do it (I did date one who preferred that I shaved my chest.).
With said I’m grossed out by women who intentionally don’t shave to fight the boogey man “patriarchy”. No one is forcing you to do jack so quit that woke bullshit. You can’t force what men prefer vs what they don’t.
Look you fool. I said men can prefere wtf they WANT, you fucktard. Pedopholic does npt mean, you are a pedophile, idiot. Quit with your bullshit. What disgusting is that idiots like you ALWAYS think this hastodo with feminist idea or some woke shit. Disgusting prejudices. You are disgusting for putting words in my mouth, idiot. I have never ever said a shit about feminism or fighting patriarchia, fool Maybe i should not use the word pedophilic and so i am sorry but you can't just write such a bullshit about me and expect to be nice right now. I dont understand. do you guys have trauma with feminism or why you all think every shit is feminism. Do i have to hate women to be not a feminazi. Again you can prefere wtf you want.
Sorry i was angry.
So many male comments that just bodyshame women. Prefere what you want. It is cute thst you also would shave yourself.
Bodyhair was very normal in my country when i was growing up till the trend came here but still many women over 30s dont shave. Only very young people do it.
You can find bodyhair unattractive but calling gross is too much. If you dont like meto use the word pedophilic, then dont use the words gross etc.
@odasfee22 ok i realize i was too rude. Next time i am not going to use the word pedophilic ok? It just make men angry when people call women with bodyhair gross. It is ok to think it is unattractive but to say it is gross it is to much
Ah “gross” is nowhere even near the word “pedophilic”. Not even close. Huge difference there.
No guy on here is advocating forging women to shave. It’s a personal choice. Besides some guys on here don’t care and good for them.
But what I have a problem with is women trying shame men for what they are and are not attracted to. Especially if it’s over something a woman change vs something she can’t. Women say they prefer tall men like guys have a choice when it comes to genetics. Men say they like slim women and/or shaved women. That is something women DO have more control over.
Anyway if it was attractive to women for men to shave their legs, arm pits, pubes, etc. I would do it. But let’s be honest most women would be turned off by that because it would look less masculine.
However hair in your armpits/pubes creates more surface areas for bacteria and bad odors to stick to. Shaving actually makes you smell better.
Ok whatever. Just dont use the word gross when you descripe hairy women since it is bodyshaming. Prefere wtf you want. Anyway women who prefere tall get attacked and also women who prefere hairless men get shamed and is called lesbian. My opinion of prefering tall men get so many dislikes by men. Women's preference are not respected. Are you ok with women prefering tall men or do you shame them? I get shame for prefering tall men although average height for young men in my country is 6'0 and so it is not unrealistic
Anyway we agree with eachother. I see no point in arguing with xou here
Shaving pubic hair is actually not that healthy since you tend to get vaginal infections easier. Pubic hair protects against ingections/bacteria. Anyway you can prefere what you want. I won't use the pedophilic again. Happy now?
I actually did not mean to shame men for their preference but i am still sorry
@hi_it_is_me123 I read your response, and I "heard" something, in it, that you are conflicted, in some ways, wanting to comply, with social norms, maybe to be accepted, but also having a need to BE YOU, and maybe something 'rebellious'!
The duality of hating the idea of shaving, but then asking for a guy's help, seems either like a very interesting woman, or a TOTAL TROLL Post! LOL!! So many Trolls, on here, it's hard to know.
Private chat, if you are real. . .
Tf ok troll
I hate shaving my legs and not armpits or so on. I want to wax but i can't do thst on my own. I need help
@JackSmy She's not a troll.
this lady i don't know what's wrong with you... which man ever told you that?
and don't even start with "oh me it's just my personal preference and a lot of ladies think it's sexier too"
you have to know what your end goal is if you want to appreciate yourself no one is stopping you to you a full-scale forest and or you can find a guy who just loves that but in reality that is not most of the men especially guys with value lol good luck.
@wonderfulstation404 exactly. No one is forcing women to shave or not to shave. Besides there are guys out there who don’t care. So why is this such a big deal?
Shaving is an inconvenience at best. I already expressed my sympathies to women given how much surface area they have to groom. I sure as hell don’t expect them to shave every day. Also if a girl I liked demanded that I keep a clean shaven face/chest I would do it for her. Hell I would even shave my legs if she seriously wanted that.
But what’s going on is these women are so selfish they expect to change male PREFERENCES. I know I can’t change female preferences which can be exceedingly more unfair. Many women require that the men they date be tall. That is something a man has absolute ZERO control over. It’s completely determined at birth.
Fortunately I’m 6ft but still I feel for the shorter guys on that one.
Can you both fuck off. There is nothing to discuss. I am done with repeating for idiots like you.
@wonderfulstation404 Women with value would not date a retarded person like you that can't read. You are bodyshaming women but then dont complain about bodyshaming fucktards like you, fool. I dont force any man to date hairy women, idiot. If you can't read, stfu or fuck off and dont annoy me. What which men? I am expresing my own opnion. For that i dont need men to tell wtf i should write, fool. You just start with saying women have choice but at the same time shame on such women and men who prefere such women, piece of shit. So wtf is wrong with you.
@oldasfeel how stupid are you? Where tf i am trying to change men's preferences. You guys are the ones who freak out, shame on women with preferences for tall men. You can't force women to date manlets. Does not matter whether you cange it since you all want young women under 30s which is the minority and shame on women over 30s and call them leftovers. You either respect women's preferences such as prefering tall men or stfu and stop being hypocritical. You are the selfish that even can't read wtf i wrote. Again I DONT EXPECT ANYONE TO CHANGE ITS PREFERENCE. go read again. I am done repeating myself.
@wondeefulstation404 @oldaslfeel i will block you if you keep making me repeating myself since you can't read my previous posts. So Stop spamming
It is also interesting to see many male gagers with 1st level. I have the feeling these guys use multiple accounts since i have seen people with such mind/writing style
@Wonderfulstation404 @oldasfeel22
read posts under my first posts. I already said sorry for using the word pedophilic. I really have no problem with men's preferences. I even would not complain if men prefere only models. I am the most open minded person when it comes to physical preferences- the preferences about bodyhair
( armpit/pubic hair) just confuses me due to biology. As i said i even would not judge any guy who only prefere blond, skinny, curvy, tall, pretty women as long as these guys dont bodyshame women who ain't blond, curvy etc.
I even would shave my whole body for my partner if he also shave some of his body parts. So i really see no point in discussing further. i really dont force any guy to date hairy women. I dont understand the point of this conversation right now
@hi_it_is_me123 thank you for taking the time to calm down and respond to that. Apology accepted about the pedo term.
Its just that some labels/insults carry much heavier weight out there. Words do matter. I just feel that as man I often get muzzled from telling the truth (unfairly much harshly than vice versa)
For example I’m most attracted to cute/petite female body types (gymnast types). But I’ve also dated very tall women before. My ex was 5’ 11’’ (I’m 6ft). But I’ve had women call me the pedo label before JUST because I said I like petite women. Do you have any idea what a disgusting cheap shot that is? Anyway I’m glad you recognized it. That is what a mature person does.
Anyway I agree not to dwell on this subject anymore. I feel that women are free to do as they please shave or no shave. But if you ask guys about their preferences you need to be prepared to sometimes get a response you don’t like. I often get responses I don’t want to hear from women when I ask for the truth (nice guy vs asshole is a classic one). But I asked for the truth and they gave it to me straight. I have to respect that even if it’s not the answer I wanted.
Body hair isn't gross to me (like it is to so many people apparently?) But I prefer the shaved look. If I had light or blond body hair I would be ok no shaving but I have dark as fuccckkk body hair haha so I can't really get away with it.
I'm a big believer in maintaining the ability to walk away from any relationship at any stage. If I was with a girl who was proactively making decisions that killed my attraction for her and stuck by it.
I would eventually end up leaving. It's like asking a girl. "If you boyfriend you lived with quit hid job without getting a new one and stayed at home playing video games instead. What would you do?"
Sure, I'm confident some girls would give it time... but eventually it's gonna become a problem
It's a good idea to take care of yourself both for you and your partner. Even if you have the most understanding guy. Don't delude yourself into thinking that sexual attraction isn't important in a relationship, because whatever tells you it "shouldn't".
Like it or not. It matters. Idc if it's a relatively recent change in world history. So is life expectancy being 80+. Why the hell are we using that as a frame of reference?
I wound't care. The thing is women didn't shave their bodies before Gillette came along (1940s). They made women look ugly with body hair, men only shaved their beards before. In my opinion if there's not too much hair thats's interrupting you you don't need to shave it, and when she is my girlfriend she can be as free as she likes with her hair.
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Funny I had an issue with this w/ my last friends with benefits.
Depending on how bad it is I would be turned off or very grossed out if she intentionally stopped shaving (for feminism bs).
Anyway I know it’s a pain in the ass to shave that much surface area. It’s high maintenance to keep consistently smooth. I’m understanding that if she’s busy with work or other activities a few days might go by without shaving. Maybe a week tops.
However women who intentionally don’t shave gross me out like no other. Dealbreaker.
Again you are free to do what you want. But you can’t change what men are and are not attracted to. Some guys guys really don’t care but for me it’s gross.
I would lose attraction. That's pretty gross, to be honest. I mean, soap didn't exist a thousand years ago either; doesn't mean it's okay to stop using it. And for those who think body hair isn't gross; what exactly do you think is the purpose of hair anyway? It's to keep your body warm, and to trap dirt and other things. Hair is basically natural velcro. A woman not shaving her body hair is the same thing as a man (or anyone else) not bathing. You can do whatever you like, but it doesn't mean men have to like it. And I don't give a fuck how many pink downvotes don't like that.
Do you shave your body hair? Legs & pubes and everything?
@Heavensblessing
I naturally don't have much body hair. I trim my pubes every couple months though, so yeah.
Oooh okay. That's understandable then.
I feel like I've gotten used to the shaving trend. I find it more sexy if a woman has shaved armpits, legs and muff.
I don't mind if she lets it grow a bit, I really don't expect any woman to shave everyday. My ex girlfriend let it grow out a bit as well and I didn't really care, but I wouldn't really like my girlfriend to have the same amount of leg or armpit hair as me. I know this might be a stupid standard but I'm just not that attracted to girls who don't shave at all.
Just as girl maybe don't like guys with a beard or the other way around.
Umm... Women in ancient Egypt were removing body hair 6000 years ago - there are hundreds of depictions of this in paintings and carvings.
Women in what is now Afghanistan and Pakistan have been "threading" for hundreds of years at least. As have the world famous "ladies of Paris." Body hair removal is certainly not a recently-invented practice.
Anyway, it's never been an issue for me since 1990 or so. Most girlfriends either shaved bare already or would ask me what I preferred and would go from there (I also groomed to her preference).
To answer the question, I would assume that there was something wrong (medical), and I'd inquirie, but she would know already that if she was just doing it for no reason, I wouldn't be pleased.
I have a love letter signed with a lipstick kiss imprint from my girlfriend that says in part of it, “Thank you for loving me even when my hair is a mess, or when I forget to shave my legs.” As for her not shaving her bush or not? While it might make the oral sex a little more challenging, I like how a full bush concentrates the scents of her pussy more, and seeing her pubes just totally engulf my dick as she rides me would drive me wild while look at her sultry dark eyebrows that match.
Honestly, it'll turn me off, but to be fair we all had moments where we gave something a break. There has been quite a few times where I stopped shaving my face and normally I would always keep my face cleanly shaved.
With her not shaving herself like just stopping suddenly it does need to discussion. Hell some people be tired from all the working stress that's been going on in their life, that's a very good reason why she would stop all of a sudden and especially if the both of you or not seeing each other as much or having sex as much. But hygiene is a very important thing for a person and personally I don't like hairy armpits.
Do you shave yourself?
Why?
If you expect her to do it, you should do it yourself. Logical.
You know, it's logical to think of who you're replying to and have already understood their context before making a such as yours. Be mindful of that next time
Just answer. This is a simple question.
Post your opinion and worry about what you do.
You should worry lol.
Hypocrite.
Something is clearly wrong with you.
With you, you mean.
Hopefully you grow up one day and stop trying to provoke people. Trying to force disagreements is a bad way to live sis.
Well, it seems complicated for you to understand so... Bye.
Goodbye obnoxious lady
Nothing at all, my wife doesn't shave. She trims up sometimes, like right now during the summer, but that's all. I really don't care about the hair. It just makes me less likely to go down on a woman for very long if it's unruly and I'm picking hairs out of my mouth lol
I don't like body hair on myself so I'll be glad to continue shaving it.
If I stopped shaving, I'm sure my SO would likely be putt off by it, or even grossed out. I wouldn't blame him because I find body hair on a woman unappealing.
If my lady stopped shaving her legs, armpits & muff, we would not be having any physical intimacy anymore, which would be pretty damaging to the relationship.
I find hairy women unfeminine and unattractive. I'm sorry if that sounds shallow but it's no different than how women feel about short men. We can't control what we find attractive or what turns us off.
By the way, I have offered to shave for every partner I've had and would be happy to do so if they asked me to. Thus far none have wanted me to shave and only one preferred I even trim. The others like me natural.
Do what's right for you and your partner.
@it2ly I don't shave myself. Did you even read what I wrote?
I shave happy trail on muff couldn't stand not shaving my legs or armpits I hate stubble and hair. I just prefer no body hair on me
Well honestly I think the trend has lasted longer where I'm from.
Women always used melted sugar and other stuff to remove their body hairs. Waxing has been practiced since 3000BC in Egypt. Body hair is unattractive on women.
Take pics of her share them saying what a lovely husband i had Until she's a woman again, tbh I coyld care less about all the nonsense so don't even try to justify this shit, if your gonna take yourself physically out of the female expect me to treat you like it. And I ain't gay so hands off
If it's too much hair then I would find that a bit gross, I would give my opinion on the matter of course since she's my girlfriend, respectfully since to some women that might be a sensitive issue.
And of course I would shave my body also if she asked me to. It doesn't take much work and it's an important thing to stay attractive to my girlfriend.
My girlfriend has gotten her pussy waxed 3 times since we have been together ehich has been a little over 7 years 7 months. She lets her leg hair and armpit hair grow out a fair amount.
Body hair on women does not bother me whether it's on their: chest, arms, armpits, abs/belly, legs, pussy, or ass. If my girlfriend has anywhere from no hair to a lot of hair on any of those parts she is pulchritudinous, sexy and a mahor on to me.
It’s not our responsibilities.. however I live in Asia.
Sometimes when I’d go with a girl and I’d see her kitty cat is got full grown hair. Trim at least!!
It’s not hygienic doesn’t need to be bald, but at least trim your bush.
Anyways sometimes I would trim it for them. Howver I don’t like doing that.
Theese comments 🙄 but whatever we are on an “opinion” site. I guess it makes no difference also when we complain about how “SMALL” their dick is and want to leave and find a more “ALPHA” dude to satisfy us with a “BIGGER” dick 🤷🏽♀️😂
I would be fine with it. My girlfriend already doesn't shave her pussy, she has sparse leg hair, and if she would stop shaving her armpits, I wouldn't mind.
My opinion could be different though for girls who are more hairy.
I never have dated someone super hairy but I don’t mind a muff, lol. If it was crazy hairy I’d probably not love it... but I’ve been with girls with a full muff but it’s not running down the leg or anything. I prefer a little something to be honest. Landing strips are ideal to me.
Probably won't enjoy giving oral all that much.,. 100 years ago they People still rode horse and home canned out of necessity, not a hobby... I am one who celebrates the extinction of the bearded clam 30 years ago.. And yes.. I manscape. I love shescaping too ! SheShorn , Heshorne best thing ever!
Yeah I'm not even into hair on myself just a preference it has nothing to do with gender or societal pressures. When I was in the service some of the guys would try and talk shit until I made sure I knew they were checking me out then they stopped.
1. My woman (if I had one) would use an epilator (my preferred method), while undergoing laser treatment.
2. If she stopped removing hair, she would no longer be my woman. I have no interest in sharing a bed with Chewbacca's sister.
I wouldn't care. I'm hairy, she can be hairy too. I know it's a lot of work to keep everything trimmed and shaved and waxed and plucked. If I'm not doing it, I can't reasonably expect my partner to do it.
The legs would bother me the most. Rubbing up against a thousand tiny cuts is not desireable. The muff thing I didn't think made a difference. Turns out was watching a rock documentary and the people were skinny dipping. Wow I decided it did make a difference and it wasn't a positive one. Yes I guess I'm for for all shaving on a woman
She's basically turning into a guy & as a straight man, I don't date guys. If she was French I'd cut her more slack since in their culture women can have more hair. Still, if her legs start looking like a man's I'm out.
Lol to this. What do you know about French people?
@Property_Of_Jocker Closer to my age group, french women are known for keeping hairy pits. Younger French women don't.
Are you french or do you live in France or... Anything?
False. Even ancient Greeks, Romans, and Egyptians shaved.
I would take a moment, stop, and ask, "WTF did I do, or screw up?"
I KNOW she HATES THAT, so she is doing it for some reason, and I have to assume I FCKED UP somehow, somewhere, and she is pissed off!!
My guy doesn't even notice if I shave of not. And he also doesn't care. I have blonde hair so maybe itd be different if it was dark
No, we wouldn't
I'm only into girls that care about their appearance and want to look attractive for their partner. It's not a whole lot of effort to shave. Even I take care of my hair from undesired places.
I like hair down past the shoulders.
No where else.
Attraction goes way down when I see hairy pits, legs and manly looking hair.
I hope all these dudes shave their peen and balls.
isn't that the truth
Peen and balls. Lmao.
yes almost all men shave
I'd HOLD HER DOWN, get out my straight razor and shave her myself!!
Seriously, I PREFER she shave but, if she doesn't want to, I can't force her.
Disgust its like when women stops csring for her shapeand becomes disgustingly fat as well. I expierence gag reflex from those views.
You're confused.
Arab ladies and men have it as religious doctrine to shave/trim pubic hair. Has been the case for centuries.
I apologize, but i am referring to it being "mainstream" across all cultures. Back in the day it was headline news that a woman would cut her leg shaving, today every lady has a story & no one gives a shit.
To me, they are repressing some pedo drives when they say a girl with leg hair is unpalatable. Feminine body hair might even look good. I really dont know, i dont see it much
I'll be honest I wouldn't be like really mad, but I'd at least ask for occasional grooming maybe like once a month or something... So long as nothing started stinking from body odor. I'd only do so because I groom.
Pull yourself together, lady, or find yourself a King Kong to fuck with.
I would be thrilled. I love natural body hair in women.
I like a hairy muff, it's a bit of a turn on. Don't like hairy legs on a girl though, arm pits Don't bother me.
Muff has has to be shaved, everything else is fine.
I have seen women with long armpit hair, it's strange but hey it's her body.
I'll be home for lunch have the air conditioner on and I don't want anything to eat I'll meet you in the bedroom LOL
No response really. If that's what you want to do and it makes you happy, I say go for it
i like a nice clean body of a woman. down there i can deal with but her legs and her armpits should be clean-shaven. the one difference between a man and a woman is the hair that we have and show off. to me it is too masculine.
I know the "correct" response is to accept it coz it's her body her choice. But selfishly, privately, I'd be a little disappointed
Yeah any disagreement that’s it’s still attractive to guys for a woman to be hairy is met with instant derision on here of course.
It’s not like anybody is forcing these women to shave. Of course we don’t or can’t do that. But I’m not being chauvinistic or “patriarchal” for sharing my preferences.
But what I’m noticing from “progressive women” is they 1) intentionally defy common male pertenece just for the sake of doing so 2) are not satisfied with just having the freedom to make personal choices but want to force/manipulate what is generally attractive to men.
That above is bullshit. Sick of it.
Well, I wouldn’t really care unless she got unreasonably/extremely hairy.
Okay so... I think hair on girls is gross unless it's eyebrows, head hair, and arm hair. I can understand most women don't shave during the winter so thats fine but like if your going to the beach or wearing something revealing please please please shave...
Nothing, I would notice it but unless oral is a thing she really enjoy it makes no difference.
Well, the muff part is great - the legs and armpits are a bit less attractive to my preference but I don’t know that I would “say” anything...
I would be ok with it. In Europe many women do not shave their pitts.
most people think that all young girls shave everything. Not true.
If she refuses to take care of herself, then I'll make sure to replace her with someone who will.
I prefer my woman to have a muff, but I also prefer her to shave under her arms and her legs.
I'm not super turned off. I might ask why if it's a sudden change.
Sorry but no thanks, gonna have to take care of that
I'd ask her what was wrong. This just isn't normal. Clean up your act, look your best - you're a WOMAN, not a man.
well legs armpits whatever the muff🤔well that would make me a lot less enthusiastic about going down on her
+1 for "muff". I like the expression.
I wouldn't respond at all. It would not impede my enjoyment of oral sex or nuzzling her armpits.
I'll be honest, body hair on literally anyone makes me want the vomit 😅
Are you a pedo
Funnily enough, no
@Unbeatable don't like hair=pedo?
A lot of girls are disgusted by body hair.
I'd puke if my boyfriend had chest hair or didn't shave his legs.
@Heavensblessing excessive hair isn't pleasant on anyone, hopefully we can recognize that and exclude that as an option in the discussion
@Unbeatable I'm not talking about excessive body hair. I thought it was obvious that I was speaking generally.
@Heavensblessing Then you have some strange preferences, you're probably gay
@Heavensblessing your boyfriend shaves his legs?
While I much prefer everything shaved, it's her body and her call.
I would like her to shave her legs bc I find hairy legs off-putting. I don't care much about pits or Muff. Personally I trim mine but to each there own.
I would stop shaving my neck and tell her neck beards are natural, right?
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