Why do women hate seeing men happy?

[Anonymous]

A study was done showing that women found men smiling to be the least attractive facial expression they can make. I think this reflects upon a lot of women's behaviors in relationships as well

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[Monster_Recluse]

I saw that study too. That's actually a behavior I can respect.

Being successful at something (job, sports etc.) is exhausting and involves a lot of hardship and miserable moments. No pain, no gain means you can't be smiling all the time.

I think what woman want is to for men to exhausted and miserable so they can be the one's to make them happy.

[Lightning8]

Rather it may mean that the hardship the man endures might yield a surplus of reward that she and offspring could benefit from

[Monster_Recluse]

@Lightning8 In a relationship rewards are shared and it's your offspring too.

[Lightning8]

which would explain why sadness is unattractive because it indicates loss.

[Lightning8]

The offspring's genetics could be questioned, but it's possible for a man to have only enough reward for himself, with no surplus.

[Monster_Recluse]

@Lightning8 If you don't have a 'surplus' you can't have kids dude. You got two mouths to feed with kids, three if you want a stay at home mom.

[Lightning8]

If we're talking "attraction" that would include long before babies are made

[mlgjamz]

I think common sense or asking any female would say the opposite

[Asker]

They did ask women genius... It was study. Or did you not even read the details?

[mlgjamz]

Why would I believe you? You don't have any citations and your claim is just dumb

[frerardsprincess]

I definitely don’t hate it, it’s one of my favourite things so so I don't know what those woman were doing lol

[Desconhecida]

Because when a guy is smiling he is usually doing something which probably might cause his death eventually..

[dantetheexplorer]

Least attractive doesn't equal to hating.
They are not synonyms.

[Anonymous]

If you're attractive: "it must be because he's a misogynistic oppressor, attracting me with subtle tactics"
If you're unattractive: "why that incel piece of shit is happy instead of improving himself for me?"

[trappedinamber]

oh boy, triggered much?

[Opinion Owner]

@trappedinamber The irony of you trying to make me pissed for pointing the relieving truth.

[trappedinamber]

Just because my response makes you emotional, doesn’t mean that it was my intention. Obviously you harbor some intense feelings on the subject to begin with, likely based on anecdotal evidence with a strong reliance on how you personally feel about the situation — which is basically the definition of being triggered.

[Opinion Owner]

@trappedinamber Not sure where you assume your response made me emotional at all, seems that's your own projected insecurity about a comment you'd have otherwise ignored if you didn't consider it true or seriously threatening to your ideas of the world.

[Opinion Owner]

@trappedinamber Just wonder why so many men are getting done with your gender, regarding "anecdotal evidence".

[trappedinamber]

Since you were the one who brought up an emotion in regards to my response (i. e “trying to make me pissed”), I did, in fact, assume that my response made you emotional — in the same way that you assume I responded to your comment because it “threatened [my] ideas of the world.” I apologize for my assumption, but try not to do the exact same thing to me in the same message you try to call me out for assuming, then. Otherwise, it’s hypocritical.

In regards to your, “many men” statement — I’m not sure where you’re getting your numbers for this, but based on my “anecdotal evidence” I’d say men “getting done with [women]” is simply a hyperbole. When one allows themselves to stay in a hug box of ideas, like reddit, 4chan, or anything with a strong ideology or political leaning, it’s easy to feel as if a minority of people is a movement, even when that is simply not the case. Are women inherently flawed and are men allowed to complain about them? Of course. But, does complaining about those flaws mean they are abandoning the idea of women in general, I’d say no. But, I’d love to hear your opinion on the matter!

[Opinion Owner]

@trappedinamber Men might approach it from different philosophical ideas and identities, but there's an gradual increase in acknowledging the presence of an hypergamic regime since the sexual revolution questioned patriarchal structures. It's dishonest to say resulting power relations in male-female interactions are only a topic of debate in obscure echo chambers, and for much I don't share the Western-wide current conservative backlash, it's getting fed by the need to acknowledge negative consequences like those resulting from an hypergamic structure for intergender relations, where females can afford double standards and hold the unrecognized power of choosing who's worthy and who's not wile pretending we're all the same value. Of course, winners aren't going to complain regardless of their implicit awareness either.

[Opinion Owner]

@trappedinamber The most sincere criticism I could accept is that blaming the individuals for unrecognized structural flaws does more harm than good for a resolution's sake, and your mocking makes little to zero contribution regarding so.

[trappedinamber]

Here’s the thing: I don’t care about a resolution with you. You are no one, as am I. Our opinions don’t matter in the grand scheme of things, so pretending that this interaction holds any form of meaning outside the two of us, because I decided to respond to your presumptuous and strawman of an option with a meme is so grandiose.

Back to the actual discussion at hand though, I, too, agree that the presence of social media and online dating has formed a skewed dating system that favors women and perpetuates a dating system that give women an unfair advantage. However, I don’t agree that it’s dishonest to say that most of the discussion regarding this topic IS discussed in echo chambers — we will just have to disagree with this point. However, this idea of one gender having power to choose a partner and afford double standards in intergender relationships is hardly a new concept — take a look back when child brides, dowry’s, and things of the like were skewed in men’s favor. Did you hear men complain then either?

Does the system being skewed towards women now make it any better though? Of course, not. Instead of complaining about how futile a system is, it’s important to make realistic steps towards understating where the problem originates (I personally feel that it’s social media’s rise) and fixing it.

[trappedinamber]

“understanding* where the problem originates. . .” My bad!

[Opinion Owner]

@trappedinamber Letting asides the fact I was talking about a collective, social resolution your individualistic mindset couldn't comprehend, that's quite the empathy-lacking interpretation you showed there, indeed. I wonder if you're not the one actually making a strawman out of anyone who makes casual satire of female behavior.

The topic is going to be discussed out from echo chambers as it naturally arises from everyone's life experiences with dating, regardless where they subscribe or who they read or don't. Ideally, people could read the most wide set of ideas but that's a long-term process asides not always happening, but the experiences will keep happening along natural questions from it.

Men acknowledged their power (for much I could disagree on their moral justification), and the fact women won't even have the ethical decency of recognizing their own actual role is what I find the most dangerous, that's why I satirize among others, because it makes people like you uncomfortable about presumed ideas.

If you think satire equates meaningless complains, that sounds much more like your own flaw at identifying others political positions or personal advocacies implied behind it.

[trappedinamber]

Your reliance on personal attacks on my point of view with no regards to how your own could be flawed is making this conversation boring for me. I’m looking to have a conversation with someone that is realistic and vulnerable. You and I have entered a pointless shitting contest, where both of us are too defensive to open up our minds (but I will say, in my personal opinion, you seem way more defensive than I feel — basing this claim on your relentless changing of topics and, I repeat, reliance on personal attacks).

To sum it up, just as it took men, it’ll take women time to understand the moral wrongdoings of upholding a hypergamous system. My comment on complaints was not on your supposed satirical first comment, but your comments since then — my apologies for not making this clear.

[Opinion Owner]

@trappedinamber I don't get where do you make up personal attacks out of valid criticism, but that's your own choice and I won't force you otherwise.

[trappedinamber]

Thanks! ❤️

[Anonymous]

Because they're human, and we inherently suck as a species

[mladasrpska]

i like to see men happy

[PondyPand]

Most really don't.

[saponpolen]

women hate seeing men happy

[ericclayton]

[citation needed]

[Asker]

Look it up kiddo

[Pxincess]

I don't!

[Janenow]

They don't

[bookboy]

Loll