Why do women defend the men who make sexist comments?

[Anonymous]

For example, if a guy says women are worthless after 30, a girl will defend him or if a guy says it's okay to use women for sex, a girl will agree then blame the woman, because she should've known better?

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+1 y

There seems to be confusion on the comments I've heard about useless after 30. They primarily are talking about physical attractiveness, which is subjective.
For example, a fashion editor published her comment that "50-year-old model Helena Christiansen is too old to be wearing a corset... women flaunting their bodies after child bearing years is tragic "
Although it wasn't a man who told her to write this, she is still promoting sexism in favor of a patriarch society.

[yrdady]

Many reasons if you want an honest answer. Those are extreme statements, especially the first by the way. Very extreme. But why would she be offended by that as opposed to just brushing it off? Maybe she's not. No women are of course not worthless after 30 or even forty, but their child bearing ability goes down, which is their prime BIOLOGICAL value. Not their value as a person, but value for why a man would want to date. Sorry, I'll get to your answer soon. Also surprisingly I found that instead of older women in their 30s being more mature and easier to date, which is sometimes the case, often they just have more baggage and the younger women are both more youthful and also emotionally available. Be the exception to this rule! It will benefit the world.

Ok to answer your question: Those are extreme statements or phrased in extreme ways, but maybe she understands the guy is multi-dimensional. Maybe she sees him coming from a place of pain and hurt. There could be other reasons, more negative reasons, but you already have those in mind. I"m only coming up with positive motivations for her to do defend him because that's what you're wondering. Or not even defend him but associate with him. Maybe she finds him overall attractive on a gut level or even mental level. Don't make people one dimensional and take into account the context and whole pattern of interaction before making a call. As a man, I've found that women lose attraction or respect more instantly, suddenly even for misunderstandings, whereas men are slower to lose what they've had. It's like pouring water on a fire. For men it's different. So I love women who are slower to grow cold.

[thothahuramazda]

Your biology is meant for a previous time in history and has not rapidly evolved to modern society. Writing about it may get opinions in agreement or disagreement but your body is still destined to perform by the DNA program inside you. Does it make sense for women who are 20 to get pregnant because life was brutal and short and you might make it to 40? Yes if you want the humans to continue on as a species. Life is less brutal but the biology still remains the same. So if you could live two thousand years or could live 1-year lifespans as a species reproduction is going to find a balance in that time frame. So if a woman gets past age 25 she is considered a risk because the Ooga Booga clans depended on healthy children becoming healthy adults and the Ooga Booga people could not afford to care about butt hurt feelings or they would die by starvation or attack by human or animal. I ask you a question does having a short lifespan and low quality of life make people less interested in peace?

[MagooSmiley]

U shouldn't give opinions you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT... just some well needed advice... you should try to comment on things you are knowledgeable about... thats what this app is all about, not trying to push your retarded backwood hillbilly views on people trying to disguise them with your "big complicated" and "long simple" words you use... sorry dude... honestly... i didn't even get halfway through your retarded ramblings b4 i knew what the fuck is wrong with you... you're just an idiot...

[crazy8000]

Spot on!

Uncomfortable to hear about for easy offended individuals and people suffering from white night complex.

[Asker]

@thothahuramazda a conceiving woman is considered a risk after 25? LMAO I think you should've paid attention in biology class

[esova]

@MagooSmiley you talked all that shit, but didn’t say what he was wrong about? Let’s debate logically not emotionally.

[Asker]

@esova his whole statement is wrong. 35 is considered the age where risk goes up, not 25. And that doesn't mean a woman can't have kids after 35, it just means it starts to get riskier

[jazzy628]

I think that everyone has the right to give their opinion. I may not agree with them and this topic may affect you more than others because it involves you and something you strongly disagree with. Some opinions may offend you, for the way they are put, for what they affirm, for something it shouldn't even be thought. You just have to let it go sometimes, you cannot change their minds. You can give your opinion and see what happens, if they're able to see your point.
In this case, I do not agree with the sentences you said, it seems like they treat women as objects, to play with and to throw away when they are older or not fit anymore, it's degradating. On the other hand, if women want to be respected they can't treat men as objects also. We should treat each other equally with respect.
Nowadays, men and women are put under a lot of pressure by society, because they have to meet the requirements for perfection, clear skin, skinny and fit bod, makeup, eyebrows, beard, you can continue the list. So, when you don't fit in the so called beauty standards you're drowned by negative/sexist/irrespectful comments. Society built these standards and now it is slave of it.
That's how messed up we are these days

[CherryRoseChampange]

It's pretty rare but I've seen it happen and I think it really just depends on the woman. Some may have grown up in a household with sexist views or dated men with them and absorbed it through that. Or they could be a "pick me" girl.

Where they're trying to show they're not like other women and appeal to men more so they can seem more desirable. Or they're trolling. The reasons could vary a lot.

I don't pay much attention to it though. I don't see it often. When I do I just feel bad for them if they actually do think that low of themselves.

[David_Kek]

Because not all women are idiots that lack personal responsibility?

The older you are after you sexually mature, the less reproductive value you have, that's a basic biological fact. If you threw your best reproductive years away, that is your fault, not the rest of society.

And it's perfectly ok to use women for sex, long as you're honest about it and they're using themselves. For example only just yesterday i told an Italian girl I'm seeing after she told me she loved me, that it would be in her interest to walk away since I'm never gonna love her or live with her, and if it came down to her or my unofficial fiancée, i'd choose my unofficial fiancée.
Like if you don't want to be treated like a whore, then it's ill-advised to act like one. I'm pretty sure most women understand that.

And i'm not saying any of that to be a dick, i'm saying it because it's true; if you fucked your life up, then that's your fault, not the fault of the messenger or the fault of reality.

[emmily2396]

So you cheated on your fiance

[Asker]

So you are saying a woman's value is based on her ability to reproduce? Seems pretty sexist to me, especially since men's sperm becomes linked to birth defects like autism after 35 as well, but the media doesn't tell us this. The men I was talking about were basing women off looks, not reproduction.

Also, if you were honest with that girl and she agreed to the sexual encounter, then it isn't quite using someone for sex. But, you did insinuate she is a whore when you did the same thing. That's definitely a sexist comment.

You also imply that women wasted their lives partying or whatever in their 20s and so they don't deserve love in their 30s. Did you know most of these women were going to school, working, or possibly newly divorced and maybe that's why they are single?

They are busy bettering their lives in their 20s, so they don't have to depend on assholes like you to support them

[emmily2396]

Lol, he admited about cgeating on his girlfriend... what do you expect? I hope she finds out and dumps his ass

[David_Kek]

@emmily2396 Nope.

[Asker]

@emmily2396 lol! If she was Italian, he should've held onto her, they have a negative birthrate and are more rare

[David_Kek]

No, i'm saying one of a persons largest values is based on their ability and market value to reproduce.
And you're quite right, the older men get, the lower their reproductive value goes down too, via increased likely hood of siring children with autism, which is probably why women don't find older men attractive unless he's used that time to prove his relative genetic superiority to other men (successful athlete, successful intellectual, successful entrepreneur, etc.). Going by your logic that's a sexist state of affairs that women should stop finding attractive.
The reason why age isn't as negative for men as women, is basic supply and demand. Age more negatively effects female than male reproduction; infidelity is worse than reduced genetic health.
Looks both indications of age and health.

Fine, i'm a sexist. I mean she didn't mind me calling her a whore ("i'm not a whore, but i am your whore"), but ok.

I know what they were doing for all that time, most of whom went to Uni to get themselves into debt to get a career they don't give a shit about anyway. I can't tell you the amount of women I've spoken to who've told me just that, that they went to Uni not because they wanted to, but because the education system convinced them that following their desire of finding a nice guy and having a family is stupid. 10-15 years later, now they're learning the hard way who's really stupid.
And as for newly divorced, again, who's fault is that?

You know what the funny thing is? My fiancée is 44 years old, only just hitting menopause this year, meaning it'll cost me £4,000 a pop just to get her pregnant.
Reproductively she is far lower value than you, and yet i still choose to marry her in spite of all that. You want men to look at you and see a good deal to put a ring on? Try offering them what they want, you'll have more success than merely labeling them a sexist for being human. Cause i'll tell you right now, what you're doing right now isn't working.

[esova]

Lol this guy ain’t sugar coating nothin’ lol

[ArchEnemy]

Asker sperm isn't the reason for that stuff the reason is dangerous man made stuff women put in their bodies but the media doesn't tell you that.

[Asker]

So if your fiance is 44' why are you agreeing that women over 30 are useless?
And what are you insinuating by "who's fault is that" in divorce cases. Are you blaming the woman for things not working out? What if she were abused or just not mature enough to be in a marriage at that time?

[David_Kek]

"No, i'm saying one of a persons largest values is based on their ability and market value to reproduce", "Reproductively she is far lower value than you, and yet i still choose to marry her in spite of all that.", "Try offering them what they want, you'll have more success".
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When you actually listen to what someone is saying, as opposed to what you want to hear, things go a lot quicker.

Are women inanimate blocks of wood? No, they are people with agency, that makes choices and have an effect, both on the world and themselves.
If you really want to believe that in every situation that doesn't go your way it's a black and white case of your fault or someone else's; then you really do have a lot of growing up to do, because that is not how the world works. It takes two to get married, and hence it takes two to fuck it up. In situations there are certainly those who are more to blame than others, but everyone has personal responsibility and hence a share of the blame.
Example;
If your marriage failed because your partner started hitting you, it's reasonable to guess most of the fault lies with them, but it's unreasonable to say all of it does. A random beating after two years of marriage doesn't just fall out of the sky; something in that relationship in those two years would have changed, a relationship that you are 50% of.
And if it wasn't after two years, but pretty much right away, this means it was clear from the outset what type of a future this person was offering... if you still marriage them, then that was your fuck up.

[David_Kek]

To answer your question of what I'm insinuating; my point is with the ability to take personal responsibility then you're no good to anyone. And you clearly do lack personal responsibility, by blaming biological fact that disappoints you, on men's preferences and labelling them "sexist". In what reality do you live in makes you think any man would hear you say that and go "yep, that's the woman i want to settle down with"?
My misses actually was in a very abusive relationship when she was much younger, and yet she does take her small share of personal responsibility for that situation, just like everything else in her life. She was desperate, didn't know any better and was having a break down after her mum died, but she still acknowledges it was a mistake, she put herself in that situation and allowed it to go on for far too long.
That is a woman that you can depend will have your back and take her share of responsibility for your relationship, which is sort of important.
If you can't take personal responsibility for your own actions, then you're not in a position to take care of yourself. If you can't take care of yourself, what the fuck are you going to do with someone else?

You want to find love? Drop this bullshit for blaming other people for your mistakes, and actually start taking care of yourself. When you're there taking charge of your own actions, and you can actually see a mans personal needs as no less morally wrong than yours, then you might actually find a guy that actually likes you.

[emmily2396]

Nope, you said future fiance like you already have a girlfriend

[David_Kek]

@emmily2396 i do already have a girlfriend, doesn't mean I've cheated on her

[emmily2396]

Didn't you said you slept with another woman and would choose your current girlfriend over her?

[Asker]

@david_kek, you said yourself that a woman's largest factor in losing her value is due to her "ability to reproduce" and therefore agree that women being useless after 30 is correct. If you read my question, is there anything in it that states this sexist comment is derived from fertility? No, there isn't. In fact, when I've heard these comments, it had nothing to do with fertility, but rather physical attractiveness and these men are judging a woman solely on her looks and once they fade, she is useless to society.

[emmily2396]

Fertility drops more significantly in your 40s anyway... and same happens to men, even if they can reproduce for longer

[David_Kek]

"you said yourself that a woman's largest factor in losing her value is due to her "ability to reproduce" and therefore agree that women being useless after 30 is correct"
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Then logic is clearly not your strong suit.

Physical attractiveness are indicators of age and health. Just because most people are not consciously aware that's why they find those things attractive.

There's lots of women who've had value after they lost their best looks. If a woman is deemed useless to society after she losses her looks, then she is useless if all she ever offered the world in her 30 years on this planet is a pretty face and/or her vagina.
Again, coming back to personal responsibility, if you are that woman, then that is your fault for choosing to put all your valuing in just looking nice.

[David_Kek]

@emmily2396 what's your point?

[David_Kek]

Oh god, you just used the word "patriarch society" in your OP. You know what, i take it back, you are a catch, and all men are just wrong and women haters. I mean feminists, those truly are the sexiest bitches in society. I know I'm already engaged right now, but i'll end that right now if you'll taker me. Hell, i'll even let you peg me occasionally if you want, in-between talking the different ways masculinity is toxic.

To actually answer your question; "Why do women defend the men who make sexist comments?", is simply because Patriarchy benefits women too.
I mean, you know, if it can harm men too, it's not a stretch it can benefit women either.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Wtf. So you support simpettes?

[emmily2396]

My point is you're a cheater and a hypocrite because men's looks and fertility decreaads with age too.

[emmily2396]

Decreases

[David_Kek]

@hi_it_is_me123 … what's a simpette?

[hi_it_is_me123]

Female version of whiteknights

[hi_it_is_me123]

Or simps

[David_Kek]

@emmily2396 Men's fertility does not decrease to nearly the same degree women's does, and that difference is reflected in said double standards. Men and women are different, and those difference will lead to different standards. Don't like it? Take it up with God, or Darwin, or whatever tickles your fancy.

Again, as for being a cheater, how?

[David_Kek]

@hi_it_is_me123 I'm afraid i'm gonna need a working definition, because those things can have radically different meanings.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Similar meaning

[David_Kek]

@hi_it_is_me123 Again, they can have multiple meanings.
According to google's hit, a simp is "a silly or foolish person.", and a white knight is "a person or thing that comes to someone's aid."
That's why it's important to be clear what you're talking about. What is your definition of a "simpette"? Because if it's the female equivalent of those things, then that doesn't sound so bad.

[hi_it_is_me123]

I am talking about so called pick me girls who say sexist shit to attract beta males.

[David_Kek]

@hi_it_is_me123 Are you just making words up at this point?
WTF is a pick me girl?

[hi_it_is_me123]

Omg...

[hi_it_is_me123]

Look for it in urban dictionary

[David_Kek]

@hi_it_is_me123 "Pick-Me-Girl. Basically the female version of a simp. Girls who don’t get offended by blatantly sexist things because they crave male attention and validation. Same girls who say they only hang out with guys because they are “less drama”. They’re okay with putting down women for their personal gain and do everything they can to cater to males. I shorten it to PMG personally."
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If the definition of "sexism" used is the same one here ("objective facts that trigger feminists for not conforming to their ideology"), and if the definition of "women" is the same one said feminists use ("women that believe in said retarded ideology"), then yep, that's what i call wifey material.
If more women actually liked men and liked being women, you'd probably see those marriage rates stop falling.

[Asker]

Tell me what these "objective facts" are

[hi_it_is_me123]

@David_Kek so you like sexist women who does not respect themself? I mean i also like simps, beta males, cucks who does not respect themself but I dont do it because i dont want to encourage this behaviour

[David_Kek]

Objective facts, such as age reduces a woman's fertility far more than men's, and that difference with have an effect on their desirability with as they age.

[David_Kek]

@hi_it_is_me123 No, i like anti-feminist women, and women that understand the importance of personal responsibility.
Far as i'm concerned no one can possibly respect either sex if they believe in patriarchy theory, especially women. It's fiction, it demonizes men as monsters, and diminishes women as inanimate objects at the same time. If patriarchy theory is true, then it justifies it's own existence.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Nah, you like sexist women who worship your gender.

[David_Kek]

@hi_it_is_me123 … ok then. It was nice speaking with you.

[Madhatter920]

It depends. Sometimes it's just being realistic. In your women over 30 example, it's a fact that most men are attracted to younger women. Some aren't, of course, but the majority are. That is something proven and verifiable. In the example of women being used for sex, that's just realism. If you walk in to a tiger pen wearing a meat soon, you're probably going to be attacked by a tiger, whether you believe it's "right" and "fair" or not. You can control your own opinions, but not the opinions of others. I think realizing and accepting this is what makes some women defend sexist men. To be clear, I also don't believe it's right or fair. As someone with a mother and two nieces, I would like the world to be different. However, it is what it is and no amount of wishing is going to make it any different. That takes a lot of time and effort, and we're not there yet. So until we are, we have to conduct ourselves according to reality, not our fantasy.

[Asker]

To say that women are useless over 30 and men aren't seems pretty sexist to me. Men lose their looks as well. If money and status were the only things women cared about, then Ted Bundy wouldn't get so much fan mail. the reason a psycho serial killer got all the women was because of his good looks.
To agree with it when you know it's wrong is to accept what is unfair and allow it to happen. Black people could've easily gave up, accepted the social norm and the Civil Rights movement wouldn't have happened.

[Madhatter920]

You're right. It is sexist. It's also statistically proven. Both can be true. "Useless" is the wrong word, but "not as attractive, according to the majority of people" is true.

I never claimed women only care about money, so I'm not sure how that came in to the conversation, but again, it's proven that men with money get more offers than men without. Does that mean it's the only thing that matters? Of course not. But it certainly helps more than anything else.

I never said anything about agreeing with it. No one did. In fact, I said the opposite. I said "As someone with a mother and two nieces, I would like the world to be different." I don't agree with it, but I'm also not going to be willfully ignorant of the facts.

No one asked you to accept anything. Only to be realistic. Those within the Civil Rights movement had to work with the facts, and you're expected to do the same. If you can get the facts on your side, that's great. I hope you do. But lying to yourself and others helps no one. It only hurts your movement and turns people away from it.

[LeoElias]

If you didn't have a mother or nieces, would you be saying the same thing?

[Asker]

If I heard a guy say that women aren't attractive over 30, but men are--i wouldn't consider that realistic at all. Both genders start to lose their looks as they get older. It's extremely rare that I even see a young woman with a much older man. And if we look at the movie stars now, the girls over 30 seem to be just as attractive as the men. but, my point being that some women will defend men on this and other sexist things.

I do think this can change. Women never thought they could out Hollywood rapists, but they did. The more you expose sexism, the more you can change it

[Madhatter920]

@LeoElias If I didn't have a mother, I wouldn't exist.

[Madhatter920]

@Asker What you consider isn't relevant to what's real. Facts are completely unrelated to opinion. Look at any study, poll, or statistics and you'll see how common it is for women to prefer older men and older men to prefer younger women. That in itself isn't sexist, neither is pointing out that data.

And I completely agree it can change. I hope it does. You should expose sexism every chance you get, sure, but exposing sexism doesn't mean putting on blinders when it comes to information you don't like. It is possible to both promote feminism and acknowledge facts.

[Asker]

How is women losing attractiveness after 30 while men don't lose it statistically proven?

They both start losing their looks as they get older, which is why this is a sexist statement

[Cortaine]

Both men and women have for a long time been raised to treat men like the only worthy gender. Women agree with these comments because they also hold these traditionalist values - anti-feminist values. By doing so, they gain a higher (although still very low) standing in the eyes of traditionalist men - they're eating the crumbs that fall off of the patriarchy's table.

[esova]

Really? What about all those poor young boys who were treated like they were disposable to go fight wars they had nothing to do with? What about the quote “protect women and children”? What about men?

[Cortaine]

The question was about women.

[esova]

But you said both men and women have been raised to treat men like the only worthy gender.

[Cortaine]

So? The question was still about women.
Men aren't soldiers because men are disposable. Men are soldiers because women can't fight. Don't make the "male sacrifice" an honorable thing, it's not.

[sawno]

Probably because there is some truth to this if it was better worded.
The 30s argument is true in the sense that men seek younger women on average. They are prettier to most but more importantly you have more times before settling down and having kids together. 30 is quite the limit if you want to take it slow with her because after that you can't wait to long for the sake of vertility.

And it is also ok to use a women for sex, but on the condition she consents to it just being sex. The semantics here are the word use given it makes the difference between a friends with benefits and leading someone on. I assume people defending it mean the first part.

[Asker]

I guess I left the comments too vague and open for interpretation. We have to assume that those comments target women and the opposite is said for men (men never lose their valid, etc)

[DomPinder]

Simple, because of the father. Most women, not all, learn their behaviors towards men from the father. If a woman is defending a man making sexist comments it is usually because her father made sexist comments.

[Asker]

@dompinder I could totally see that

[youknowbetter]

Well first off who is judging what is “sexist” and what isn’t? Who is the moral know all? If a guy makes some blanket statement (in sincerity) that all women belong in kitchens than yeah that’s sexist. But if he’s criticizing fem nazi’s for wearing “pussy hats” and women’s marches you can not dismiss him for being “sexist”.

Also I notice some guys get more of a free pass to be sexually aggressive and vocal just because they are funny, openly liberal or good looking. I notice women have a hard time separating respect vs. attraction when judging guys.

There are plenty of unattractive women I respect for one reason or another. But in my experience women are much more judgmental when it comes to this.

[Asker]

Lol well we know sexism when we hear it. To say a woman is useless after 30 while men are more useful after 30 is a sexist stereotypes.

I do agree that attractive people have more of a voice

[youknowbetter]

Well I don’t feel women are “useless” after 30 at all. No offense but I do believe Father Time is generally harsher on women. But that doesn’t mean their aren’t downsides of being a older guy. I’ve been unfairly labeled a “creep” just for saying hello to a younger woman with no agenda. That hurts more than almost any woman will ever realize. Unless you have a solid reason to call a guy that that is extremely sexist.

But I won’t judge women just for being older unless I have a good reason too (and I’ve met some pretty fucking immature women in their 30s).

[youknowbetter]

by the way I’ve seen other men back up women (white knights) when they are being sexist. They don’t mind throwing the guy under bus even when they damn well know better that the guy did nothing wrong. They just to score “brownie points” with the girl to up their chances of getting laid. It’s disgusting.

[Asker]

I'm sure you have, but I can only write based on my experiences

[youknowbetter]

And same here. It would be nice if both genders could put effort into understanding each other’s viewpoints. The issue I have with feminism is they put zero effort into understanding the male POV

[TonyBologna25]

I think that some women can see past the rude sexist exterior, and can see that these men are just damaged and hurt. Maybe they’re defending them in hopes that they can show them that women aren’t all bad if they had a bad experience. I sort of do the same thing with bitter women. I’ll just casually brush off the sexist stereotypes and and dismantle them in a way in which they actually want to listen to you. I’ll ask them why they think the way they do and empathize with their experiences. By the end of the conversation, they feel better about themselves as they feel heard and understood. Then they become like one notch less sexist lol. Everyone wins.

[Anonymous]

Its called internalized misogyny and most girls have it because women are seen as the weaker and inferior sex.

Femininity is seen as uwu stupid emotions and masculinity is seen as strong and tough.
In societys eyes, women are seen as worser than men, therefore a sht load of women will defend a man who offends women

[grega239]

Internalized misogyny is a made up term for women who don't agree with feminisms hive mind mentality.

Being weaker doesn't make you inferior.

In societys eyes women are to be protected from hardship.

[MzAsh]

They’re usually pick-me chicks. Like the white knight, they’ll throw other women under the bus in hopes that the guy will view her as better. They’re usually pretty desperate too because no woman in her right mind would tolerate that attitude in a man.

[justanothergirl0]

I’ve actually seen this before, my grandma defends my sexist grandpa. He has a very old mindset and only views her as a dishwasher. It’s very sad. I’m sure she defends him only because he’s berated her about it so much that she now believes it. Some men will force their ideas on women, whether it’s a boyfriend, father, brother, friend etc naive women will be forced into believing it. Some women still have self respect and dignity and of course won’t follow that train of thought and support other women but that will probably never stop the women being tricked into thinking their useless sex / kitchen objects for men.

[Anonymous]

I call these bitches simpette or female cucks. I have seen that a lot from unattractive girls. They do that to get the attention of men or they want men to find her cool. As you know many men hate the modern feminism and i also dont support it but i also dont call myself ofte an antifeminist out of nowhere to get attention and say sexist shit to attract beta men. That is like when a man call himself feminist in front of women and constantly agree with women even though they dont always tell the true. Guys who fall for these women are easy idiots.

[Alice2398]

They either just a peace keeper or desperate for men to like her depending on what they said. If it was a harmless joke that really wasn't that offensive id just brush it off but guys who are just plain sexist shouldn't be defended by anyone especially a woman. Makes them think its acceptable and these girls who usually have low self worth or are desperate to get guys to like them even if it means putting up with their shit

[thegirlfromthething]

They want to score brownie points with those guys and believe they’re “not like other girls” so these statements don’t apply to them.

[Asker]

Lol true, too bad science proves them wrong, which they will learn as they age

[Aislin9]

Yep, they are extremely desperate.

[ArchEnemy]

Because they aren't like other girls they are respectable and conservative. Who doesn't want a clean girl?

[ArchEnemy]

Also you girls would consider a sexist comment to be me saying I don't want a girl who has slept with 30 guys. That is not sexist just honesty.

[thegirlfromthething]

@ArchEnemy They don’t necessarily have to be “respectable”, “conservative” women in the traditional sense. I also see this kind of behavior from women who are tomboys with a lot of guy friends or women who take pride in not being traditionally feminine.

[ArchEnemy]

@thegirlfromthething Well that is fair

[thegirlfromthething]

@ArchEnemy You must have encountered them before. Think of the kind of women who say they’re “one of the guys” and believe they’re special because they don’t care about fashion or girly stuff.

[ArchEnemy]

@thegirlfromthething Well yea that is true they want to fit in like one of the guys I know what you mean. I also didn't mean from my first comment that liberal women weren't clean or anything I just meant I see a lot of women on this site especially complaining because guys make comments about how many men they have been with and see that as sexist.

[thegirlfromthething]

@ArchEnemy Sure.

[Asker]

@ArchEnemy we all have things that are a turn on or turn off. If you don't like promiscuous women, that's your choice. I don't like men who sleep around a lot either (players). I know some women are trying to get on an even level with men, like men sleep around, why can't we? And while I see this logic, wouldn't it be better to shame men who sleep around a lot instead of stopping to their level?

[normalice]

There is a subset of people who despise their own free will. On some level, they desire going back to the simplicity of an animal life where they dont have to make any decisions that could ruin someone else's life: they'd prefer to just let their instincts make the decisions for them. And perhaps the main attribute of our animal instincts is that men are physically dominant.

Of course, there are hundreds of other explanations, but this is the first that came to mind..

[Asker]

That makes sense. Since men are dominant in society, it's easier to route for the "winning team" instead of taking the other side and being labeled as "feminazi"

[Aislin9]

I think girls like that with no personality, no strength, are a great match for the incels. I wish they would just get together in their shared evil and shut up.

[Asker]

@Aislin9 lol true!

[RolandCuthbert]

Just come here to see what the women are going to post. I mean, there will be way more guys commenting than women. But they need to be totally ignored for this conversation.

Go women! Let's see some debate!

[WowwGirl]

@RolandCuthbert
They have zero % self-esteem to stand up for themselves. Although I'm over 30 I'm not effected by body shaming or aging insults. I get better with time. If other girls thought that way this would not be a question or concern.

[RolandCuthbert]

@WowwGirl I always thought it was one of two things;

1. Feeling loyalty to the men of the community.

2. Realizing that a lot of men are immature, childish, and are easily hurt. I was like that when I was really young. And some women can feel sorry or have compassion for guys who are like that.

[WowwGirl]

Like pitty sex? No offense

[RolandCuthbert]

@WowwGirl Well sort of. I have seen women do that before. Like excuse a man's indiscretions. I remember seeing a woman try to explain why a guy would constantly use prostitutes.

[WowwGirl]

Yes they both do it for sure. You sneaky lol

[Imsuperhotguy]

What sucks is that 40+ year old bastards want to take away young woman 20s away from man my age. Shit old grandpa go find a woman that suits ur age. So many single older woman out there why old shit heads chase after our woman

[sensible27]

I don't think it generally has anything to do with them bieng woman or men. They defend it because they agree with it logically from their perspective, similar to how a lot of people defend or try to defend a lot of things whether they are right or wrong.

[sensible27]

*whether/or regardless

[Masoomaa]

They are either some of the most toxic people you would come across, or they grew up believing those comments as well. In any case you should avoid them because honestly being in company of those toxic people can make your life worse

[Sbgirl]

Could be a few reasons:
1. She comes from a family of different values and may have heard sexist comments when she was growing up
2. As bad as it is, some people (women or men) stand up for people they like no matter what they say. These women could be trying to impress these guys by suggesting she shares the same opinion

[Anonymous]

They have internalized sexism themselves. They're defending the messages about women that they've been conditioned to defend.
Some of the most ardent defenders of sexism and opponents of feminism are women
You should meet my mother *cries while laughing*