Maybe the women who say that haven’t hit 30. Women can choose just like men to believe that 30 and above is just a slippery slide downhill or they can just enjoy their lives.
Health, fertility and well being has some to do with genetics and a lot to do with self care, eating well and not participating in risky behavior. Women have to protect themselves from stds to avoid infertility.
they're called "pick-mes"... they're just so desperate for male attention that they're willing to put their whole sex down... that and probably internalized misogyny
They do? None of the women I know behave in this fashion. Then again, sexist comments aren’t exactly thrown about in my circles either. I keep neither meek women nor weak men in my company. Could be why this is uncommon within my circles.
Over 30 the fertility of a women goes down big time. Women know that. Doesn't matter it is being said by sexist or anything, I believe women should get married before thirty for their own sake and not become the target of such statement. Unless there is self hate and bad self talk, people don't get triggered by these. I would like to see women happy by following the instincts of relationship and marriage and not get trapped as a career girls. Take care 😙
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Over 30 refered to beauty in this example, not fertility. And I don't advise putting an age limit on when women should get married, otherwise you might end up with someone you hate just because you are settling
Women defending over 30 females being called useless are probably coming from their own grief points. I wouldn't recommend such comments but yeah what is the point in beauty if it has no purpose. Like you said 50 year old saying no point in wearing revealing dress makes no sense because she has nothing to offer those men.
Haha I've seen women dance and even sing along to songs that degrade women.
And funny enough I've never seen feminists go after the guys that make these types of music.
But they go after video game developers and movie makers over the dumbest shit.
Like it just doesn't make sense. You'll see them complain about how some women in video games are drawn too sexy.
But in music videos you see bunch of women wearing skimpy outfits shaking their ass.
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Yup, it doesn't make sense. I don't even listen to rap because of the sexism. Most rap lyrics are very negative towards women. I guess the girls who sing along think that they are exeptions
Tell us which guy says women are worthless after 30. Such an ignorant comment. Guys use women for sex, women use guys for money. Time to get real honey.
And yes, women are keepers of sex, guys are keepers of commitment. Don't be giving up yours 'till you get at least a little of his.
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You'll hear the useless after 30 comments in the entertainment and finance industries, especially if you're in NYC. I see a lot of sexist comments on here too.
I don't follow NYC, entertainment, or finance industries. Is this about YOU, or just general whining about your perceptions? Why do you care about sexist comments? They only have influence over you if you give them power. So if you're doing that, ask yourself why. Create your own sense of value, be confident in your own worth. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. Or are you giving over power over yourself to external people or things?
Sexist comments aren't limited to these industries. I hear them elsewhere too. This doesn't have to do with self-worth. Just because someone has high self-esteem doesn't mean they aren't subjected to sexism. We don't live in isolation (well maybe temporary during Corona), we live in the human race and we need other people to thrive. Telling a woman to ignore sexism and just "move on" is like telling a black person to "move on" from racist comments. The reason why we don't just "move on" is because if sexist and racist comments are ignored, they spread like wildfire and become the social norm, just like anti-Semitism was the social norm in Nazi Germany.
Because sadly, our society often makes it seem that talks likes that are normal. Those poor women are conditioned to think that being treatrd badly like that is normal. But it's not, and behaviour like that should be called out and not defended.
It could be a number of reasons she could have genuine issues that make her believe she's worthless after 30 or just a sex object, she could be stupid, she could just want male approval for whatever reason, however, if she's not defending the comment but the person it gets a whole lot more complicated.
I agree with those imaginary sexist guys in your hypothetical scenario, but I've never heard any guy say that in real life, let alone a girl defend them.
Stop closing your eyes and dreaming up imaginary sexism to get angry about.
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Lol! Oh, it's not imaginary hun. Try going out in the world instead of trolling behind your computer
Its imaginary, if it was real you'd not be anonymous. Therefore you put yourself on anonymous because you know you'd get attacked because you want to stir some shit. But that's okay because I too am a troll on this app. The only difference is that I don't anonymize myself and don't give a fuck if I get banned.
Like where, where is all this sexism happening? It doesn't happen at my job, or at the grocery store, or the gas station, or the dope store, any other store I've ever been to, or restaurants, or school, or my dentist's office, or in traffic, or in the woods, those are all the places I go, so where should I go to see this sexism you're talking about? Where? Bars and clubs? Is that where to find it?
Is that where YOU hang out and then high five yourself for being "out in the world?"
@bananaman117 Really? Holy fuck man, that's fucking awesome. Now I can troll without fucking limits. Fuck yeah. Thanks bro, fuck whites (except you), women are objects, communism is superior, murderers should be paid.
You say you agree with the sexist comment examples above, but you never heard them before? Lol. Just listen to most rap lyrics and watch women sing along to sexist lyrics. That's another example
@hi_it_is_me123 You're going to send me screenshots. . . of the real world. . . because I spend too much time trolling behind a computer. . .
Do you have any idea how crazy and stupid you sound? No, I don't want to look at your screenshots. You know why? I don't fucking care. Go move to an Islamic country and try talking that "sexism" shit over there.
I am from an islamic country, you ignorant idiot and i can only give anectodal experiences from "real world". Have you never ever heard about pick me girls?
Excuse me, that pink shirt "faggot" shows how much I love my mom. She's the only female that's not an object and to be respected. But you in the other hand are out of dish soap and now I understand why you are being bitchy.
You are surely an mgtow incel who hate on women. I am bitchy although you are the one who provocate people? Your wh*re-mum did a shit job- i mean look at yourself. Anyway dont spame anymore
Why are you jealous of my mom? Is it the shirt? I can also make a shirt that says "I love objects like @hi_it_is_me123" so that you don't feel left out.
" just admit it, you lost this. You're just Scraping the bottom of the barrel for a comeback" do you think that is a fucking competition and you said after you were scared of memberposting?
No girl would agree with a guy who says "women are worthless" but if a man makes a rational yet brutal comment about women in general some women will understand where he's coming from because they use logic. I have heard women make some harsh comments about men before and i agreed and didn't get butthurt. Just because other women have the same genitals as you, doesn't mean they should back you up or anything
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If you read my question, I said "sexist" comments. A rational yet brutal comment is probably not sexist. I. e. men have greater physical strength. But when it comes to judging by sex with no logic (like being useless after 30), it's baffling. And if you disagree with girls for making sexist comments against men, maybe you should argue your point and not take their shit
1. You may consider sexist while others don't. That is totally subjective. 2. A lot of women bring nothing but sex to a relationship and that is very valuable to many men. But as she gets older she loses her beauty and sexual market value. As a result she becomes literally worthless in the dating market. If a woman doesn't want that to happen to her she should have a better personality and be a more interesting individual because that never gets old. 3. I didn't say i agreed with those women because i was afraid to disagree. What they said made sense even though it was unpleasnt therefore i didn't find those comments to be sexist. It seems like you're just angry about the concept of "the wall". It is a reality. You don't have to like it
Actually, stating that a woman past 30 is useless while a man past 30 isn't, is a sexist comment. There are no facts to validate this. Heidi Klum is well over 30 and I'm pretty sure there are a ton of men who would marry her.
So instead of saying it's not sexist, maybe you should realize that it is a sexist statement and you agree with it.
There are also people who feel blacks are inferior to white and that concept has been published in the book "The Bell Curve." Where they used IQ scores to determine the "smartest" race. Does that mean it's not a racist comment?
But on the flip side... there are guys who would oppose the opinions of the said sexist girl. Although your "use for sex" part, I find fairly stupid... are you suggesting that women don't participate in the sex willingly? Why is it that only women can be used for sex but men can't? Are you really that sexist while trying to call others sexist?
Maybe she shares his opinion. After that depends on each one's experience, we all have different "perceptions". But only one really reflects reality.
Sometimes also a kind of protect a hidden side of her personality to avoid having remarks like "but you didn't agree but you are like that or you do that" i don't know if it's clear 🤷🏽♂️ There are several other reasons which can explain it, I think 🤔
Your probably feminist well you can't control every person what he say or think so dont be angry the same as women calling men pigs. There is truth in that you like it or not women after 30 some even at 25 starting to look less attractive then she was 18 thats just truth as much as it hurts.
I'm not sure, stupid I guess or they just want sex from the men so they put up with it. I've seen men put up with similar stuff for that reason.
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Wait--are you saying that female beauty has nothing to do with child bearing fitness? And are you suggesting that to relate female beauty to child bearing fitness is a function of a "patriarch society" -- whatever that is? Because I'm PRETTY sure that SCIENCE has a fair bit to say about how our perceptions of beauty are HUGELY influenced by reproductive fitness.
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I am saying that beauty is separate from reproductive function because there are girls in their 20s who can't conceive. And if they aren't separate, like you say, then women can still conceive in their 40s and sometimes 50s like Janet Jackson
Yeah--I don't think you're following how science would frame this relationship if you're starting point is "well, SOME women CAN still conceive in their 40s and 50s, so. . . " That's not the general rule. More importantly, that not how millions of years of evolution have been hardwired into our behavior. Turns out, none of that evolutionary hardwiring has been reprogrammed for the impact of 21st century medical technology. So yes--we still find women in their 20s by-in-large as the most beautiful women BECAUSE they by-in-large have the best fertility and are best positioned to deliver healthy offspring. That has a whole lot to do with biology.
Okay, but does that make it okay to make sexist comments by degrading women who are not in that age group? Someone can easily say women in their 20s are the hottest group and that would not be sexist
because they agree. that's usually why. Or they don't want to come accross as feminist or something. but tbh at times what those guys say isn't ness wrong
@hi_it_is_me123 nope, I don't…I'm not a suck up to mgtow tier dudes. you know me saying that AT TIMES what those guys say is valid doesn't make me a "simpette" or whatever the fuck
@hi_it_is_me123 ohh. I thought you ment like women who agree with "sexist" ideas or more traditional stuff. and no I don't think women are useless no and if a guy said that I wouldn't agree no.
There are women here who angrily defended Trump's action involving women... obviously conservative (so slimeball Biden's actions totally not the same and worthy of execution)... guessing they were raised that way and/or are shameless hypocrites... know for a fact that one admitted that she dislikes younger women so was fine with it.
Probably because men get blamed for everything anyways so why not play the role of the jackass everyone expects you to be. Because playing any other role... still makes you a jackass in the eyes of many.
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Maybe the women who say that haven’t hit 30.
Women can choose just like men to believe that 30 and above is just a slippery slide downhill or they can just enjoy their lives.
Health, fertility and well being has some to do with genetics and a lot to do with self care, eating well and not participating in risky behavior. Women have to protect themselves from stds to avoid infertility.
they're called "pick-mes"... they're just so desperate for male attention that they're willing to put their whole sex down... that and probably internalized misogyny
They do? None of the women I know behave in this fashion. Then again, sexist comments aren’t exactly thrown about in my circles either. I keep neither meek women nor weak men in my company. Could be why this is uncommon within my circles.
Over 30 the fertility of a women goes down big time. Women know that. Doesn't matter it is being said by sexist or anything, I believe women should get married before thirty for their own sake and not become the target of such statement. Unless there is self hate and bad self talk, people don't get triggered by these. I would like to see women happy by following the instincts of relationship and marriage and not get trapped as a career girls. Take care 😙
Over 30 refered to beauty in this example, not fertility. And I don't advise putting an age limit on when women should get married, otherwise you might end up with someone you hate just because you are settling
Women defending over 30 females being called useless are probably coming from their own grief points. I wouldn't recommend such comments but yeah what is the point in beauty if it has no purpose. Like you said 50 year old saying no point in wearing revealing dress makes no sense because she has nothing to offer those men.
Nonsense. Fertility doesn't diminish significantly until the late 30's.
Haha I've seen women dance and even sing along to songs that degrade women.
And funny enough I've never seen feminists go after the guys that make these types of music.
But they go after video game developers and movie makers over the dumbest shit.
Like it just doesn't make sense. You'll see them complain about how some women in video games are drawn too sexy.
But in music videos you see bunch of women wearing skimpy outfits shaking their ass.
Yup, it doesn't make sense. I don't even listen to rap because of the sexism. Most rap lyrics are very negative towards women. I guess the girls who sing along think that they are exeptions
Yeah I guess that must be it.
Tell us which guy says women are worthless after 30.
Such an ignorant comment.
Guys use women for sex, women use guys for money. Time to get real honey.
And yes, women are keepers of sex, guys are keepers of commitment. Don't be giving up yours 'till you get at least a little of his.
You'll hear the useless after 30 comments in the entertainment and finance industries, especially if you're in NYC. I see a lot of sexist comments on here too.
I don't follow NYC, entertainment, or finance industries. Is this about YOU, or just general whining about your perceptions?
Why do you care about sexist comments? They only have influence over you if you give them power. So if you're doing that, ask yourself why. Create your own sense of value, be confident in your own worth. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. Or are you giving over power over yourself to external people or things?
Sexist comments aren't limited to these industries. I hear them elsewhere too. This doesn't have to do with self-worth. Just because someone has high self-esteem doesn't mean they aren't subjected to sexism.
We don't live in isolation (well maybe temporary during Corona), we live in the human race and we need other people to thrive.
Telling a woman to ignore sexism and just "move on" is like telling a black person to "move on" from racist comments.
The reason why we don't just "move on" is because if sexist and racist comments are ignored, they spread like wildfire and become the social norm, just like anti-Semitism was the social norm in Nazi Germany.
Now we see the real problem... you whine too much. How 'bout some cheese with all the whine?
It's either a guy posing as a woman or it's some extremely desperate girls looking for attention she can't get elsewhere.
Because sadly, our society often makes it seem that talks likes that are normal. Those poor women are conditioned to think that being treatrd badly like that is normal.
But it's not, and behaviour like that should be called out and not defended.
It could be a number of reasons she could have genuine issues that make her believe she's worthless after 30 or just a sex object, she could be stupid, she could just want male approval for whatever reason, however, if she's not defending the comment but the person it gets a whole lot more complicated.
I agree with those imaginary sexist guys in your hypothetical scenario, but I've never heard any guy say that in real life, let alone a girl defend them.
Stop closing your eyes and dreaming up imaginary sexism to get angry about.
Lol! Oh, it's not imaginary hun. Try going out in the world instead of trolling behind your computer
Its imaginary, if it was real you'd not be anonymous. Therefore you put yourself on anonymous because you know you'd get attacked because you want to stir some shit. But that's okay because I too am a troll on this app. The only difference is that I don't anonymize myself and don't give a fuck if I get banned.
Like where, where is all this sexism happening? It doesn't happen at my job, or at the grocery store, or the gas station, or the dope store, any other store I've ever been to, or restaurants, or school, or my dentist's office, or in traffic, or in the woods, those are all the places I go, so where should I go to see this sexism you're talking about? Where? Bars and clubs? Is that where to find it?
Is that where YOU hang out and then high five yourself for being "out in the world?"
@user66345667 You can't get banned here, I tried. Watch:
See, nobody cares. The most they'll do is remove the offensive post and then dock you seven points. Happens to me all the time.
@bananaman117 Really? Holy fuck man, that's fucking awesome. Now I can troll without fucking limits. Fuck yeah. Thanks bro, fuck whites (except you), women are objects, communism is superior, murderers should be paid.
@user66345667 Have fun.
You say you agree with the sexist comment examples above, but you never heard them before? Lol. Just listen to most rap lyrics and watch women sing along to sexist lyrics. That's another example
@user66345667 you really should anon yourself bc that dumb, cracked-out pot leaf in your profile makes you look about 13
@Asker you're just jealous that weed makes me buff
I agree with it but I've never heard it uttered out loud in the real world.
And no, rap lyrics do not count as "the real world."
If you go hunting and searching for sexism, who's fault is it when you find it? Dipshit.
@Bananaman177 do you want me to send you Screenshots. It happens a lot on gag for example that you think it is normal.
@hi_it_is_me123 You're going to send me screenshots. . . of the real world. . . because I spend too much time trolling behind a computer. . .
Do you have any idea how crazy and stupid you sound? No, I don't want to look at your screenshots. You know why? I don't fucking care. Go move to an Islamic country and try talking that "sexism" shit over there.
I am from an islamic country, you ignorant idiot and i can only give anectodal experiences from "real world". Have you never ever heard about pick me girls?
@hi_it_is_me123 Oh, sorry, I got you mixed up with the other bitch. I literally JUST realized there are two different bitches bitching at me. LOL.
Wtf.
Women are objects, there problem solved. Now stop arguing
We are all objects
See we have come to an agreement. You finally admit females are objects.
So are men. It also depends on the context
Why is this dishwasher talking?
Why is this pink fag talking
Excuse me, that pink shirt "faggot" shows how much I love my mom. She's the only female that's not an object and to be respected. But you in the other hand are out of dish soap and now I understand why you are being bitchy.
Oh then you are hypocritical. Your mum is an object, like it or not
You are surely an mgtow incel who hate on women. I am bitchy although you are the one who provocate people? Your wh*re-mum did a shit job- i mean look at yourself. Anyway dont spame anymore
"But you in the other hand are out of dish soap and now I understand why you are being bitchy." Stop mistaking yourself with me
Why are you jealous of my mom? Is it the shirt? I can also make a shirt that says "I love objects like @hi_it_is_me123" so that you don't feel left out.
It will only take me 15 minutes of photoshop
Are you stupid? You are the ultimative object here
"It will only take me 15 minutes of photoshop" you can be banned for memberposting.
Lol! Rap music isn't the real world? Yeah, I'm sure no one has ever heard of 50 cent or Jay Z
Where do you live? Under a rock in Alabama?
@hi_it_is_me123 just admit it, you lost this. You're just Scraping the bottom of the barrel for a comeback
But you did put up a fight, I'll give you that
" just admit it, you lost this. You're just Scraping the bottom of the barrel for a comeback" do you think that is a fucking competition and you said after you were scared of memberposting?
I'm actually just amused at the fact that you haven't realized I'm a troll by now.
Shortsighted much?
No girl would agree with a guy who says "women are worthless" but if a man makes a rational yet brutal comment about women in general some women will understand where he's coming from because they use logic. I have heard women make some harsh comments about men before and i agreed and didn't get butthurt. Just because other women have the same genitals as you, doesn't mean they should back you up or anything
If you read my question, I said "sexist" comments. A rational yet brutal comment is probably not sexist. I. e. men have greater physical strength. But when it comes to judging by sex with no logic (like being useless after 30), it's baffling. And if you disagree with girls for making sexist comments against men, maybe you should argue your point and not take their shit
1. You may consider sexist while others don't. That is totally subjective.
2. A lot of women bring nothing but sex to a relationship and that is very valuable to many men. But as she gets older she loses her beauty and sexual market value. As a result she becomes literally worthless in the dating market. If a woman doesn't want that to happen to her she should have a better personality and be a more interesting individual because that never gets old.
3. I didn't say i agreed with those women because i was afraid to disagree. What they said made sense even though it was unpleasnt therefore i didn't find those comments to be sexist.
It seems like you're just angry about the concept of "the wall". It is a reality. You don't have to like it
Actually, stating that a woman past 30 is useless while a man past 30 isn't, is a sexist comment. There are no facts to validate this. Heidi Klum is well over 30 and I'm pretty sure there are a ton of men who would marry her.
So instead of saying it's not sexist, maybe you should realize that it is a sexist statement and you agree with it.
There are also people who feel blacks are inferior to white and that concept has been published in the book "The Bell Curve." Where they used IQ scores to determine the "smartest" race. Does that mean it's not a racist comment?
But on the flip side... there are guys who would oppose the opinions of the said sexist girl.
Although your "use for sex" part, I find fairly stupid... are you suggesting that women don't participate in the sex willingly? Why is it that only women can be used for sex but men can't? Are you really that sexist while trying to call others sexist?
Maybe she shares his opinion. After that depends on each one's experience, we all have different "perceptions". But only one really reflects reality.
Sometimes also a kind of protect a hidden side of her personality to avoid having remarks like "but you didn't agree but you are like that or you do that" i don't know if it's clear 🤷🏽♂️
There are several other reasons which can explain it, I think 🤔
Hmmm... You should be more clear in your requests next time.
They are either BRAINWASHED by her abusive boyfriend or totally trying to impress a guy for whatever reason...
Your probably feminist well you can't control every person what he say or think so dont be angry the same as women calling men pigs. There is truth in that you like it or not women after 30 some even at 25 starting to look less attractive then she was 18 thats just truth as much as it hurts.
I'm not sure, stupid I guess or they just want sex from the men so they put up with it. I've seen men put up with similar stuff for that reason.
Wait--are you saying that female beauty has nothing to do with child bearing fitness? And are you suggesting that to relate female beauty to child bearing fitness is a function of a "patriarch society" -- whatever that is? Because I'm PRETTY sure that SCIENCE has a fair bit to say about how our perceptions of beauty are HUGELY influenced by reproductive fitness.
I am saying that beauty is separate from reproductive function because there are girls in their 20s who can't conceive.
And if they aren't separate, like you say, then women can still conceive in their 40s and sometimes 50s like Janet Jackson
Yeah--I don't think you're following how science would frame this relationship if you're starting point is "well, SOME women CAN still conceive in their 40s and 50s, so. . . " That's not the general rule. More importantly, that not how millions of years of evolution have been hardwired into our behavior. Turns out, none of that evolutionary hardwiring has been reprogrammed for the impact of 21st century medical technology. So yes--we still find women in their 20s by-in-large as the most beautiful women BECAUSE they by-in-large have the best fertility and are best positioned to deliver healthy offspring. That has a whole lot to do with biology.
Okay, but does that make it okay to make sexist comments by degrading women who are not in that age group?
Someone can easily say women in their 20s are the hottest group and that would not be sexist
I don't know if it's sexist so much as this guy just being a dick. Are you talking about a specific incident from a specific person? What happened?
Yeah, an older man told a young woman that women look like shit after 30 and they are useless and the girl agreed.
What was the context? Who are these people and how did you end up in this conversation? Who was the girl and why did she agree?
because they agree. that's usually why. Or they don't want to come accross as feminist or something. but tbh at times what those guys say isn't ness wrong
Simpette alerted. So you think a woman who is in her 30 is useless?
@hi_it_is_me123 nope, I don't…I'm not a suck up to mgtow tier dudes. you know me saying that AT TIMES what those guys say is valid doesn't make me a "simpette" or whatever the fuck
We are talking about women who say women are useless
@hi_it_is_me123 ohh. I thought you ment like women who agree with "sexist" ideas or more traditional stuff. and no I don't think women are useless no and if a guy said that I wouldn't agree no.
There are women here who angrily defended Trump's action involving women... obviously conservative (so slimeball Biden's actions totally not the same and worthy of execution)... guessing they were raised that way and/or are shameless hypocrites... know for a fact that one admitted that she dislikes younger women so was fine with it.
Probably because men get blamed for everything anyways
so why not play the role of the jackass everyone expects you to be.
Because playing any other role... still makes you a jackass in the eyes of many.