Do you agree with Rebecca Lynn Pope saying, how the big reason dating is so hard these days, is due to women's unrealistic standards?

[Mark9807]

Watch her video on YouTube. She is a matchmaker. She used to work with females but now she only works with men because she got tired of her female clients being too picky and unrealistic. She said since social media exploded, women that are even average and below average, tell her how they want to only date men that are good looking, earn a certain amount of money, etc. She says she know works with only male clients because they tend to not be delusional like her female clients.

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Watch her video on YouTube. Even her as a woman is saying this.

[HiveBee]

Just look at any female or feminist space online. you will see this explained in detail.

The women help eachother escape their shitty "standards" and teach eachother how to have actual realistic standards.


Women by nature gravitate towards toxic men. They love the bad boy.

They have to grow up and move above the bad boy if they ever want a real relationship.

They think they have high standards but they do not. They have bad standards based only on superficial qualities.

The trouble is getting women to admit it. They will admit it in female onlyspaces. But if men are around you know they have to lie lol.

[Mark9807]

Yeah totally man. Look at this Rebecca Lynn Hopes YouTube video of how she quit female clients when it comes to matchmaking. She says how before social media it was no problem working with females but since social media started to explode, they became delusional.

[HiveBee]

Yea I been seen that video. she's not the only female dating coach to say these things as well.

[Mark9807]

Men that were like teens or adults in the 90s or before that have told me that dating and getting laid was so much easier for average and ugly men. Since social media exploded, even women in these guys leagues and below their leagues, started being so picky with hooking up and dating. Now a days it is super hard for average and ugly guys in both of those departments. Now a days nearly all the men that have it easy with dating and getting laid, are basically only the hot guys. Do you believe what these older guys say?

[Mark9807]

What do you think of my last reply to you?

[MzAsh]

As someone who has done matchmaking work myself, I see where she is coming from.
But I think the issue isn’t that women are too picky - they should be selective! The problem is that women care too much about the wrong things and not enough about the things that actually matter the most. That’s the real issue here.
A lot of lady clients care too much about things like height and a man’s income and not enough on his behavior, attitude, character, his moral compass, level of integrity, values, etc. These are the criteria in which to vet a man properly. It’s not that women should be less picky - they should be more evaluating on different criteria.

[Mark9807]

That is the point. Women are too selective about the wrong things. I mean how dumb is it that average and ugly women, say their boyfriend must be a model or he must be 6 ft or taller, when they are like "5,2", etc. I could see if she was around that height but why does he have to be 6 ft or taller when she is below "5,5" is just silly

[MzAsh]

Well a lot of people don’t bother to make that same point. They just wanna say women need to all around lower their standards period, and that’s not going to be helpful for either men or women.

[Mark9807]

You know women need to lower their standards. You know it is true and admit it. Why do you say it is not helpful?

[MzAsh]

I never had to lower mine. I raised my standards and that’s what was helpful to me.

[MzAsh]

I see most women tolerating way too much bs and bad behavior from men in their lives. They’re afraid of rocking the boat, and I get that. But that’s exactly what they need to do.

[Mark9807]

I am talking about women being too picky when it comes to LOOKS, HEIGHT, AND MONEY. So you don't think an average or ugly woman demanding a hot man is silly?

[MzAsh]

I think anyone making demands on superficial and shallow criteria is silly. Even though ugly or average women can more easily swing a hot dude than ugly or average guys can for hot women, doesn’t mean they should “demand” it.

[Mark9807]

Um you know, just because most hot men don't mind having sex with an average and ugly woman, doesn't mean most of them would be ok with dating them right? Most hot men would not date a woman below his league but most don't mind having sex with them. We are talking about dating, not hooking up

[MzAsh]

Yeah well most average women don’t want to date a hot guy who thinks he’s too good to date her anyway.

[Mark9807]

Most average and ugly women do want to date hot guys. That is why dating is so tough these days, cause of women's unrealistic standards. Women are causing the difficulty. Men have simple requirements with dating and a huge percentage aren't delusional as most women are when it comes to this department. See Rebecca Lynn Hopes video. She even says herself how men have simple requirements and they are not silly. Women have silly requirements and delusional ones at best. Before social media, dating was much easier for men but since social media began, womens egos went through the roof and that caused dating to be hell for men.

[MzAsh]

Haha well men definitely have silly expectations of women sometimes too.

[Mark9807]

You said it keyword:sometimes. Women have silly requirements:most of the time. Men that were teens or adults in their 90s or earlier have told me how dating was much easier for average and ugly guys back then. Now it is like a dam needle In a haystack, due to social media. Now the only guys who have it easy with dating are hot guys. If a woman of any looks range is struggling with dating, it is because she is not even trying or being too picky. You know I am right with all of this. Rebecca admits it. Other women like you know too but don't want to admit it, that the cause of dating be so hard today is cause of women.

[Mark9807]

I know the truth hurts you but at least Rebecca has guts

[MzAsh]

Where are most of these hot guys at 35? Paying child support. I wouldn’t envy them too much. Chill your vagina envy and hit the gym. You’re not doing yourself any favors by acting like an incel.

[Mark9807]

Incel? We are talking about dating not sex. Incel has to do with sex. And incels are extreme and want to murdering women, etc. But now since you bring up something that has to do with sex. Women have it way easier with getting laid too regardless how she looks like. I am not an incel , like I said, cause they are extremists. And they are virgins. I have gotten one time in my life for free. So not being extreme and getting laid for free at least once, shows I am not an incel. I am admitting though facts. And there are many hot guys in their 30s and older. Doesn't matter what is going in their lives. Women are still picky in those age ranges regarding dating when it comes to looks. They still want a hot guy, etc even though they are not hot themselves. (Now I am back to taking about dating). You think older men that I have asked how dating was much easier back then for ugly and average men are making it up. They clearly aren't. And now going back to getting laid. They say getting laid was much easier back then for average and ugly guys too. Also going to the gym, won't make a difference. I am still ugly in the face as you can see. Me getting buff would not change my face. Never had a girlfriend due to being ugly and only got laid for free one time for the same reason as well. It seems you think Rebecca is wrong even though she admits the same things I do. I don't know why women are afraid to admit the truth.

[MzAsh]

It’s not that I think Rebecca is wrong. I just don’t think she’s telling the whole truth. She’s placing a generalized blame on women that men of course just want to hear because they want women to lower their standards and in no way raise them, and that’s just not reality. You can’t force women to be attracted to guys they simply aren’t attracted to.

[Mark9807]

Ok then. Keep having the average and ugly women to expect to have hot boyfriends then and women that are like "5,3" demanding that the man they date must be "6" ft tall. She never said all women are that way. She said most. Average and ugly women were not this delusional until social media exploded. So it is not really attraction, if they became this way after social media began. Before average and ugly women were realistic and knew it was kind of silly to demand they must have a bit boyfriend and must have a man that is like 6 ft tall when they aren't even 5 inches close to that height. Now they think they can get a hot boyfriend just because a hot guy is willing to screw them. I have known many hot guys who tell me, that average and ugly women that they have sex with, all of a sudden think he wants to date them. Women should know men are willing to screw women of all types of look ranges. So you are basically telling women that are not good looking that they could get a hot boyfriend. Yes there are non good looking women with hot boyfriends/husband's but it is not the majority of the cases. You shouldn't have women waste their time. I am not a hypocrite when it comes to this. I think guys that are not good looking that demand a hot girlfriend is delusional too. I mean, you would think I'm an idiot right, if I said I have to have a hot girlfriend? Thankfully I'm smart with this topic.

[MzAsh]

When I advise women, I apply a strategy that gets them thinking about what they want. Some just want a hot guy to sleep with. Some want a relationship. I encourage them to be realistic based on their goals. But I do that through listening, strategic communication, rapport, and connecting with the client. I’ve been taking professional training to do this properly. You as a man would be wise to do the same. If your goal is to get through to women about their unrealistic standards, I think you might want to find a different way to communicate it.

[Mark9807]

What you think of average and ugly women that say they must have a hot boyfriend? And what you think of ugly and average guys that say they must have a hot girlfriend?

[MzAsh]

We’ve been over this. You need to move on or change your focus.

[Mark9807]

Well it is hard to change focus, when I want a girlfriend, you don't understand? I never had one due to being ugly. And my looks are the same reason why I got laid for free one time in my life. Having an ugly face ruins it for me with those departments.

[Mark9807]

I knew it. You think it's impossible for an ugly man like me to get in a romantic relationship. If you looked like me, you would feel the same way as me. Yet you are telling me to think differently. You are a hypocrite.

[Mark9807]

You think ugly guys can't get girlfriends.

[MzAsh]

Your looks is the least of your worries. Your attitude and emotional regulation needs a lot of work.

[Mark9807]

I didn't do Most Helpful opinion by the way. The site did. And by the way stop lying with your nonsense. So men with the right attitude and emotion that are like 500 pounds would have easy with dating and getting laid then right?(Sarcasm). Stop with your lying. When it comes to dating and sex everyone cares about looks to an extent. You going all cliche doesn't help. Why can't you admit that these days ugly men have it extremely hard with dating and getting laid? Cause you are such a chicken and don't have guts to admit"you know what, you are right, your looks are the reason why and other ugly guys struggle with dating and getting laid." You are a chicken.

[Mark9807]

I doubt if you were single, that you would date and have sex with a guy you think is ugly or a guy that is 500 pounds, and he has the right "attitude". Cause when it comes to dating and sex, you don't care about looks at all (sarcasm).

[MzAsh]

You can improve your looks and you can improve your attitude. But the truth is that you don’t want to. You’d rather force women to lower their standards. And I’m here to tell you that is not going to work out for you. Get off your ass and hit the gym.

[Mark9807]

Um so tell me how can I improve my face? Going to the gym is not going to improve my face, it would just make me buff. I am ugly in the face. The problem is, I bet you don't tell women to improve their looks, you just tell men. There are women that are ugly in the face that want to date hot guys. You know 99 percent chance they would never happen. Why give them hopes when it is not possible? That is what I mean. You ladies are the biggest hypocrites. You tell men to lower their standards with dating when it comes to looks but not women. You think it is silly for ugly and average guys to want a hot girlfriend but not an ugly woman to want a hot boyfriend. I think both ugly men and ugly women that want a hot romantic partner are unrealistic. You are a hypocrite though. Keep telling ugly women they can get hot boyfriends. You will have them remaining single for life. You suck as a dating coach from what you are telling me.

[Mark9807]

I am ugly with and without glasses, however I do my hair, etc. I just have an ugly face. You can see it. You are not blind. You sound really unintelligent telling someone they can change the looks in their face. Thank goodness there are smart female dating coaches like Rebecca.

[MzAsh]

I don’t think you are ugly. I’ve told you this before that I think you look like an actor I used to know by the name of Ross Malinger. I actually watched one of Rebecca’s videos and she does in fact agree with me that women need to raise their standards in a man’s character, attitude, and how he treats a woman, which is what you also need to work on. You just don’t see that yet because you are so focused on looks. I mean look at how much you’ve already insulted and attacked me. There’s no excuse for the way you are behaving.

[Anonymous]

Wait you mean women who know what they want and won’t settle for less than what they know they are worth is the issue? Oh I get hahaha 😒

[NightHawk99]

A lot of these women aren't even worth a second of interaction tho.

[Mark9807]

Um did you miss the part where I said that she said even women that are average or ugly expect men that are models and then wonder why they are single cause they are delusional?

[NightHawk99]

@Mark9807 She did lol. Apparently she's one of them.

[Mark9807]

@NightHawk99 she is not getting how I said even average and ugly women want models and that is what Rebecca said. Hey man check out her video. Put it on YouTube"Female matchmaker quits female clients." She is on the dot.

[Mark9807]

If you are average or below average and expect a model boyfriend, you are delusional. Yes you can hook up with one easily, but nearly all those model men would not date a woman below their league.

[bamesjond0069]

Yes and no. Yes. But the other part is they have nothing to offer men. Women are being raised to be useless and worthless so obviously men are going to not give a shit about them. "Who cares if she leaves if she catches me cheating, ill get another girl who will probably be even better because it can't get worse than this" yet women will be like "ewww his tshirt says nike and i like adidas so just no. I want a man to match adidas with me so next" literally girls moving on over dumb ass shit like this.

[Mark9807]

Um you don't think average and ugly women demanding hot boyfriends is unrealistic?

[bamesjond0069]

Yeah it is. But compound that with them also having nothing to offer. The average girl couldnt even maintain a relationship with an average guy. So its even worse!

[Mark9807]

Do you know dating was much easier back in the 90s and earlier for men? I have asked men that were in their teens or were adults back then and they said dating was much easier back then for average and ugly guys. Nowadays most of the guys who have it easy with dating are just the hot guys. Older guys tell me how it was easier back then for average and ugly guys with getting laid too. Nowadays you how the deal goes with that. Average and ugly guys could get a girlfriend and could get laid (for free) still but since social media exploded, it became a needle on a haystack with women even in their own league. Do you agree with what I just said?

[bamesjond0069]

Well if you're 29 you just missed it. I remember dating in hs and college and social media was not very wide spread. Certainly no dating apps. Facebook wasn't even up it was private invite only and at a few select colleges. Now I don't know about average, im above average looking and good socially, so the biggest change I've seen is girls are more ho status. In HS and college i only dated virgins because i was only interested in serious relationships. Now these days its almost impossible to find virgins to date. My girlfriend was one but for real mostly only ugly girls are virgins once they hit 18 it seems like. I talk to a ton of girls and im known as a ladies man and even these good teen church girls are sleeping around. Its nasty asf. When i was younger i dated a bunch of virgins. It seemed like many girls waited.

[Mark9807]

Your above average so you must have it good with dating and getting laid. But do you agree when it comes to these present days, the huge majority of men that have it easy with dating and getting laid (for free) are the guys that are above average or hot? And do you also agree with dating and getting laid for average and ugly guys these days is like a needle in a haystack?

[bamesjond0069]

Probably. Right. I literally have a girlfriend who is 18 and hot and a casually girlfriend who is 25 and hot. So i mean im monopolizing the marketplace. So yeah some average or lower guy is having a harder time because of me. Its just math.

[Mark9807]

But you know back then it was easier for average and ugly guys with dating and getting laid? Now even most women in our leagues think they can hot boyfriends and are picky with who they have sex with.

[bamesjond0069]

Yeah but its two sides to the same coin. These girls are so useless (fat whores who can't cook basically) attractive men are not committing. I certainly am not going to wtf. Tbh my ass should have been long married already and not keeping a small harem. However there is essentially no women on the market good enough to lock me down. So this creates an abundance of hot guys playing the field which makes it impossible for the ugly guys. If some top tier woman locked me down, and other men like me, it would help to lower the overall expectations of women and it would lower the availability of the super desirable men. Thats good for average dudes. But it really has to do with women. Im not trying to make it like this even if it seems im benefiting from it. Im just acting in my own best interest. Why would i marry a sub par woman in order to help less attractive men? Uhh no thanks lol. And i have no control over women trashing themselves and making themselves useless. I just deal with whats in front of me.

[Mark9807]

No bro. I am not saying for you to get romantically involved with an ugly or average chick. Take advantage of the fact that you can get in a romantic relationship with a hot woman. I am just talking about the struggle of guys that are not good looking. One huge funny problem is that many ugly, average, and fat chicks think that just because so many hot guys are willing to fuck them, that it means they could get involved with them romantically too. Apparently they are unaware that guys would screw women of all types of look ranges. One time avery fat chick and her average looking friend told me how they had sex with model looking guys. They were like bragging about it. They all of a sudden were acting like they are the shit. Dumb huh?

[bamesjond0069]

Oh yeah i get it. Tbh i see the attitude too. Yeah a lot of girls throw themselves at me but a lot dismiss me for the most dumb reasons ie wrong color eyes like wtf?

[Mark9807]

What is an ugly guys like me supposed to do with dating and hookups?

[Mark9807]

Ok thanks for basically admitting I am screwed with those departments cause I am ugly.

[bamesjond0069]

Be rich. Be confident. Go to the gym and have a hot body.

[Mark9807]

Be rich? So you want a woman to use me for my money? Thats fucked up. If a woman has sex with me, I want her to have sex with me cause she wants to, not cause of money. And I want a woman to date me, cause she wants to as well. Any other suggestions besides being rich. That is dumb advice, unless the guy doesn't mind a goldigger.

[bamesjond0069]

Um what? I didn't say pay her smh. If you're rich women just FEEL like you're more attractive. Even if they get zero financial benefits. One of the more recent girls i dated actually applied to work at one of my companies. I didn't hire her but we went out on a date and ended up being like casual dating friends with benefits situation. I am a multi millionaire. She makes 30k per year. You might think she was financially benefiting however she would always buy me groceries and sometimes give me her debit card and tell me to go buy stuff for myself. So is she a gold digger? Did my financial success probably help me land her? Quit being a lazy ass and make some money for yourself and stop whining.

[OlderAndWiser]

I don't doubt that some women are as you have described but I have had very few problems like that with my dating over the past 19 years. I had one girl who broke up with me because I said that I didn't want to be her sole support for the rest of her life. Online, I have seen a few women's profiles which said "don't contact me unless you earn at least $100,000 per year" and I just laughed at their shallowness as I swiped left. But most women in my generation are not like that.

[Mark9807]

Bro, we are talking about since social media exploded, with how women are with dating. Don't include the years before it exploded.

[Mark9807]

You are uninformed

[OlderAndWiser]

I have been dating heavily in the past five years.

[Mark9807]

How old are the women?

[OlderAndWiser]

50-65, mostly in their mid-50's.

[Mark9807]

Oh I see. Well I am mostly referring to women up to their 40s. Women in the age range you said are not as delusional as the younger ones when it comes to dating.

[loveslongnails]

I think the biggest problem is that women "simply don't understand" what men are about, and what they're NOT about as well. Women seem to want men to BE a certain way that they are not in many aspects. They expect men to think, react or reason as they would, and we don't. Perhaps this another way of saying they care about the "wrong" things, but I believe its a much deeper lack of fundamental understanding.

[Mark9807]

Another problem is women being unrealistic and expecting hot boyfriends when they are not hot themselves. Agree?

[loveslongnails]

I think that's an unrealistic expectation on both sides, but I have to say, it's worse on the man side. I'd generalize and say "Most" men (that means more than 50%) think ALL women want them, no matter how the guy looks. LOL I'd also some that only "some" women do that.

[NightHawk99]

YES...

Women believe we men should be like the men they see in movies... But when a man DOES act like such (e. g. constantly showing love to a woman who doesn't love him back until she has a change of heart), it's seen as creepy. Then they wanna say "but the actor tho~" 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦 They don't know the actor personally, and likely never will.

Ladies... We aren't Romeo and we never will be. None of you are Juliet, and you never will be.

[Mark9807]

Even average and ugly women demand hot men to date. It is ridiculous huh?

[NoLookingAtSoleil]

Not all are unrealistic.
Some sell themselves short thinking they couldn't get the guy they like/feel like being with.
I think black women and prostitutes have monopolised the online space with their ludicrous demands - and shy, orrdinary girls-next-door end up expecting they cannot get anything (while being much sweeter than those bragging and demanding)

[Mark9807]

Most women of all races are unrealistic when it comes to dating man

[NoLookingAtSoleil]

I think the good ones just don't get the air time. And certainly not the best choices available - those get grabbed by manipulators (or at the very least the manipulators ruin it for better people - that Ottoman Turkish sabotage of closeness by lies to turn it into closedness).

[Anonymous]

Everyone here knows she is right. The women who deny it are just being dishonest.

[Mark9807]

See her video. She spits facts. She said matchmaking with women was fine before social media exploded but when it exploded women of all look ranges became too picky. Ask men that were teens and adults in the 90s and before that. They said dating and and getting laid was way easier for ugly and average guys back then. Now it is extremely hard for ugly and average guys, with even women in their own leagues and below their leagues.

[Mark9807]

What do you think of my reply to you?

[Opinion Owner]

It's fine.

[Mark9807]

Do you agree though with what I said?

[Anonymous]

I’m just gonna sit here and wait for a woman’s response to this. I doubt many will be able to respond to it.

[Mark9807]

Some have responded with nonsense already man. Take a look. Lol

[KrakenAttackin]

Unrealistic standards and absurd behaviour.

[Mark9807]

Yeah. Is it true that dating and getting laid used to way easier for ugly and average guys in the 90s and before that? That is what many men tell me that were teenagers or adult sin the 90s or before that. Now it is super hard for average and ugly guys when it comes to dating and getting laid with women of any looks range.

[Agape93]

Nope

[Mark9807]

So you don't think average and below average looking women expecting hot boyfriends is delusional?

[Agape93]

Nope because anyone is entitled to a set standard they expect of a partner. If a partner does not meet that standard, then that is the problem of the one deemed substandard, not the one with the expectations. Is it realistic? Not always. But it’s not delusional.

[Mark9807]

So how do you feel about average and ugly guys that say they have hot girlfriends? You don't think they are delusional? Let's see if you are a hypocrite with this. I'm not. I think guys that are not good looking that are like that are silly

[Agape93]

I don’t frankly care. If they do, good on them. If not, then oh well. Either way, I don’t care.

[ItsMeItsMe1989]

Nope, far from it

[Mark9807]

So average and ugly women demanding hot boyfriends is not unrealistic. Um ok.