Men which kind of girl would you not want as a girlfriend?

[FinalFantasyBro]

When it personally come to me as a person who comes with a abusive household I honestly wouldn't date an abusive girl. I also don't like gold digger because just wouldn't feel right now knowing someone is dating me only for my money.

The controlling/demanding girlfriend

The Feminist Girlfriend

The Abusive Girl

The Gold Digger

Obsessive Girlfriend

[MCheetah]

Okay, I'll answer. None of them. But out of this list, the Abusive Girlfriend. I'm not afraid to hit a girl back, but that's obviously not love, and I don't want that in my life. Very close after that, the Feminist Girlfriend. And it's not on here, but next would be the Queer (Bisexual) Girlfriend, since I have ZERO interest in lesbians and queer is a hard dealbreaker for me, like the other two. After that, Demanding. Then, Gold Digger. And I have no issues with an Obsessive Girlfriend.

So, in order, from Worst to Least Worst: C, B, F, A, D, and lastly E. I have no problem with E.

[MCheetah]

Thanks for the MHO.

[Juxtapose]

I'll take the bitch with the gun before I date a feminist.

[FriendlyDrugDealer]

I rather not have to deal with any of them but if I had to pick then I would prefer to avoid the abusive type the most. I’m not trying to throw hands when I want to see my girl

[nighttrainlane]

I would not want to have a girlfriend in any of those categories. I suppose though a girlfriend at times can become obsessive at times, which can be a normal. As long as it is not an obsession like my ex. She stalked me everyday for two years.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

The abusive one over the feminist one? Are you guys insane?

[MCheetah]

Feminists are both abusive and stupid; the "abusive one" at least stands a better chance at rehabilitation, prison time, or not falsely accusing you of "rape."

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@MCheetah feminists are not abusive. Abuse is when they verbally or physically assault you. Feminists simply believe stuff like the wage gap. That doesn't mean they are violent or that they will charge to the police for no reason.

[MCheetah]

I was referring to the verbal assault, gaslighting, calling all men scum, and falsely accusing you of sexual misconduct or assault.

[MCheetah]

*verbal abuse

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@MCheetah did you ever meet a feminist? In person, not one like guys online describe. You yourself talking with one?
I have and they are nothing like the media stereotype portraits them. At least the ones I met.

[MCheetah]

I ended up dating one and I was friends with a guy who identified as a feminist. I've also had a male feminist roommate and went to university with them. They always start off rational enough, but whenever I ask them deeper questions, their can never give me any kind of rational, logical, or semi-intelligent answers whatsoever.

Questions like "Why are you a feminist? Why do you think feminist has a monopoly on women's rights? Why is it a negative for you to believe in women's rights without calling yourself a feminist? What rights do Western women have that men do not? Why do feminists always complain about non-problems of first world women, but do nothing to address major problems of third world women? Why do feminists claim to be about 'gender equality' but do nothing but bash, belittle, and berate men? Why do feminists not complain about the unfair advantages women have or the unfair disadvantages men have? Who were the first feminists? What was the ultimate goal of the 1848 Seneca Falls Convention? Why do people wrongfully think the Suffragettes were 'heroes' who fought for women's suffrage (they delayed it by 9 years due to arson and vandalism)?" And so on... I've done this song and dance for over ten years. I can safely say I know more about Western feminism than 99.999% of all self-proclaimed feminists. And it's not something that I can say is positive or beneficial for society at all (with the small exception to second-wave).

I know it may seem like a gross oversimplification or inaccurate myth to just call feminism a misandrist hate movement for insecure hateful women. But it's sure as hell not an inaccurate one, when you've learned as much as I have.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@MCheetah I call myself an egalitarian. Not a feminist.
I simple acknowledge that feminists are not man haters.
As far as I know, in modern countries, women have the same constitution rights men have. I think when they talk about rights they are referring to social rights. They want to end that idea that women are only good to be housewives. That women are just sexual objects. They want the same social freedom as men do.

As far as bashing men. Imagine that you believe that stat, that 98% of women will experience some form of sexual assault in their lives. That stat includes things like catcalling, but regardless. How do you think they feel? Imagine that you are a woman and you believe in that stat along with many others that show how much sexual violence there is against women. When they post of course you won't see them say "Predators do this and that" you will see "Men do this and that."
Same thing with guys. You don't see guys here say "Gold diggers only care about money" you see them say "Women only care about money." It's generalization for the sake of protection.

Believe it or not, I have seen it on social media, feminists do care. They just don't help the way we expect. For them the burden that society puts on us to "be a man and always act manly, never cry or show emotions" is why men suicide so much. Because they push everything down and one day they break. Men think they want to make us weak. That's what you will hear. In their heads they are fighting to keep us mentality sane.

I am talking about the good feminists of course. I know there is a lot of bs disgusted as feminism out there.

[MCheetah]

Well, we can agree to disagree, but when the doxology people follow literally has the hatred (and envy) of men as its PRIMARY core tenet, Patriarchy, I can't say I can feel the same way about it as you can. I always say it's like calling yourself a Christian and denying the existence of Jesus Christ or his actions. To be a "non-man-hating feminist" is literally an Oxymoron. Again, Susan B Anthony and Millicent Fawcett, the actual founders of feminism, openly despised men. ALL men.

And actually women literally have dozens of more legal rights than men do. Last time I checked, there were at least 56 laws and rights in the US alone women had that men do not, including 100% of all reproductive rights, suffrage without conscription (no military obligations in order to vote), more domestic abuse (The Duluth Model) and rape protections, rape still legally defined through vaginal penetration, and so on. Women also live longer than men, have more perks and benefits than men, hold all the power in the dating world, and at worst, suffer only 11% as much societal harms as men do, including homelessness, homicides, suicides, depression, etc.

[MCheetah]

Assuming men ever actually treated women like objects (from my experience, this is entirely false), no one has done so towards them in the Western world since at least the early 70s. Women have had "social equality" (for the lack of a better term) with men for about 40 years now.

Ultimately, I don't care what label people want to call themselves. Actions speak louder than words. I don't agree with the label, but I'm fine with the "Egalitarian" feminists. In both real life and social media however, I'd say those are only about 5 to 10% of self-proclaimed feminists, and they sure as hell don't speak out against the third and fourth wave feminists who think male castration and male suicides are "the right step towards society." I see feminists spend more time defending the name of feminism than actually helping women who need help (and never helping men who need help, obviously).

In short, there's no need for ANYONE to call themselves a "feminist" and take on all the baggage of "#killallmen" and BS like rape culture and the wage gap, if they actually want to make a difference in women's and men's lives. But they do, and I already know why they do. But in the end, actions speak louder than words, for both the misandrists and the egalitarian "feminists."

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@MCheetah to be a feminist and hating men is the oxymoron. That is the point.

All of those, suicide, homelessness, death rates at war, are all cause by who? Besides personal choices on not studying, not seeking professional help, chosing a dangerous line of work? Bad choices.

While I was having lunch I saw something on the news. A woman, 23, killed by her partner by beating her to death. She went to the police 7 times for help. No one gave it to her and on their report on the 5th time described her as "hysterical". Dude was not even charged for murder because she had a cardiac arrest during one of the beatings. So the beating didn't killed her. So he gain just 10 months in prison and is currently already out. Shit like this is what feminism fights against.

And yes women still are treated like objects to this very day. There are rape cases that are dismissed on what the victim was wearing.

But of course we can agree to disagree.

[MCheetah]

Everything you mentioned happens ten times more to men, but it's only "an issue" when it's a woman. This is exactly what I meant when I said when conversations on feminism always spiral into a lack of logic, common sense, and insanity. It's like you're subconsciously saying male suffering doesn't matter. I've never been one to gender things like rape, domestic abuse, and so on. Everything becomes the "Women Are Wonderful" effect. You speak like a feminist and look at the issue in only one biased point of view, even though you claim you are not a feminist.

And to say very opinionated things like "to hate men and be a feminist is an oxymoron" when they very CLEARLY hate men, is when the logic starts to completely slip away. Especially when like I said, it's LITERALLY a movement about hating men and blaming everything in society on men. Like, this isn't me just saying things out of the blue; it's core tenet is Patriarchy. Being a feminist without ascribing full-handedly to the feminist version of Patriarchy is like being a Christian who despises Jesus, like I said.

I'm going to end it here and have us agree to disagree before you go even further down the feminist insanity rabbit hole, like the wage gap and rape culture BS. As I said in your earlier comment, I've had conversations with probably over a hundred feminists and it ALWAYS ends the same way: Whataboutisms and "it's always men's fault." Never mind the fact that men have to be the sh*ttiest and most self-loathing oppressors in human history, if feminism was actually accurate about anything, ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhm_HZ9twMg

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@MCheetah Let's rewind here. In what way am I saying men suffering doesn't matter? I never said anything remotely similar, you are the one assuming that out of nowhere.
This is what many people do, they hear what they want to hear not what is being said.

Any woman that hates men is not a feminist and every single feminist will tell you that. Literally every single one.

I don't support the wage gap or rape culture. Both are made up bs. Don't just assume my position on things.
Historically speaking men did the most good and also the most bad. I think we can agree in that.
And the good that they did vastly outdoes the bad.

[Jackblue]

Obviously the abusive one would be the worst.

[888theGreat]

none of them, but a little obsessive would be ok.

[exitseven]

I would vote for all of these.

[Hanmakev]

The ones with dicks

[InferiorElegy]

Any of them