+1 yThis is one of those things that just is.
I have seen (recently) a bunch of guys (some of whom I know) look at a woman’s name and comment if she’s likely to be fit or not (not first time and I’ve done similar in the past).
If you take a bunch of words say, Sarah Smith, as the starting point, it just gets more complex on how sexualisation slips in to everyday life.
I’ve been interviewing someone for a job and they have come out with ‘girls are not good engineers’, considering his team leader and his manager were going to be women engineers with a lot of experience, he never got much further.
It is part of a general judgement / sexualisation thing that society has.
social standing - coming from less affluent
eduction - not having a degree etc
ethnicity - being black or other skin colour
Gender - being female
Sexuality - LGBT+
fashion - clothes, tattoos etc
Age - young / old
body type - size of body and it’s bits.
sexual history - Non virgin
if you start ticking those boxes, then the judgment police come charging forward. Even without know the person, it being words on a page, then people will judge and at various time sexualise.
Back to the original question, I do believe in parts it’s getting better but it’s very much a game of snakes and ladders, just when you think you get through a week without judgement or sexualisation, someone kicks you down a snake (last bit had input from 2 peeps with lol).20 Reply
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+1 yHonestly everyone is called a crazy fan only difference is females take it extra far bleeding the are drums of everyone around them by their intense screams, the grabbing of the celebrity. It's crazy the things female fans do but get away with it but if a guy did most of that stuff he's branded a pervert and hit with harrassment charges. That's why females are called crazy fan girls because they take shit over the top.
Gamer girls sexualized themselves, sure there are some guys out there that are shit and say sexual things in chats but in the long run females sexualized themselves. I used to watch a lot of streamers and all the female ones start off saying they won't do certain sexual things but out of nowhere the cleaveage gets insane they start doing Hottub streams where they slap each other's asses and tits. Sure there's a few female gamer streamers out there that haven't resorted to that but it's amazing how quick the change happens.
It's all female behaviour, you don't want to be called crazy then don't go to extremes that you don't need to go to. Don't want to be sexualized as a gamer, stick to gaming.00 Reply
+1 yThis is an issue that both sides of the cultural isle needs to resolve. Want to be an educated, independent woman? Judgement from extreme conservatives. Want to bake a cake for your boyfriend? Judgement from extreme liberals. Hell, even eating ice cream is met with judgement. If you're fat then "Yuck, go on a diet fatty" and if you're fit then "You look so cute eating that". Very few people in this world care about you enjoying the ice cream.
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2K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Honestly nothing I've found so far. Been shamed for my sexuality and appetites, eating, hunting, camping etc.
Someone's always going to bitch or try shit. Just got to push the pricks off the bridge and move along whilst they drown59 Reply
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lets be fair here though too. Women in the gaming scene have sexualized themselves a lot tbh. Blame the Twitch girls for it. giving boys preconceived notions of all of you lol. someone said guns? That's BS I've seen gifs of girls with big guns jiggling in their bikinis and bras. Too many women making money off their bodies, giving off a certain image. When you have women who objectify themselves the loudest being the ones seen daily then expect a thought pattern to occur in younger men's minds. When you see scantily clad ladies, IG models, all these pornstars, sure you can say they are empowered if you want to. But they are hurting the image for all women. Is this not the case with for instance Republicans and Democrats? You get few screwballs out there and then ALL Republicans or ALL Democrats are this way or that way. Same with Christians because of the Westboro Baptist Church. Or different ethnicities because of certain bad stereotypes. It is what it is.
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Because dumbasses can't understand people are individuals and not one homogenous blob of their category? They need to be educated. It's not "women"'s fault that not every woman wants to be seen the same way. I mean do you blame powerbuilders for the chicks who expect you to have a six pack? I assume not, because you're not dumb.
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@snackthatsmilesback no one said their mindset was excusable. But people, especially young people, especially boys, tend to be extremely naive.
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Yeah, so blame the boys, not the twitch girls. They aren't "giving preconceived notions of all" girls that's ridiculous. They're presenting *themself* how they want. And whether how they present is a good thing or not whatever, that's a different issue.
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@snackthatsmilesback nah it's a group effort.
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? People should be allowed to do shit without it then being expected from their entire sex. Am I wrong?
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@snackthatsmilesback you're asking for idealism and human nature to fully coincide. It doesn't work that way and never has my friend. no one said its a charming world we live in. just look at the state of dating. once hook up culture happened it became expected to fuck on first dates. hence why i stopped dating for the longest time. You forget we live in a big world with many cultures. Not all of which hold to your values. when something becomes normalized its hard to change. again who is the target audience of gamer girls on twitch? boys ofc. You expect them to have the same morality as an adult?
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I expect people to understand that ONE woman being sexy while gaming does not mean ALL women will be sexy while gaming. I'm really struggling to understand how THAT is idealism or takes "adult morals" to comprehend. It's a very basic and universal concept.
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@snackthatsmilesback its not one women. its TONS of women. It's become a norm. The term "Twitch Thot" not ringing any bells? It's a meme these days. its a meme thats been going on for like a decade now. When little boys see this, they see porn, the see IG, the see only fans, that combination makes a young brain draw conclusions about the opposite sex, weather true or not. Your idealism isn't going to change that. And trust me what you expect and what you will observe are very different. we all hold and are held to different standards by people from different backgrounds.
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Since when have people thought memes equal reality? I thought being a meme made it more obvious its ridiculous.
You know what else is everywhere? Other twitch people. Even on twitch you can't actually say the MAJORITY of women on that site are sexy gamer girls. And even if so, that's one site. There are tons others.
Am I stupid? How is this a difficult concept? Are boys not capable of understanding women are humans? There are billions of humans! Even in their individual experience there will be many more than just gamer girls. They have family? Friends? Any sort of interaction with strangers? Surely they must realize—surely they must be able to put 2 and 2 together—that there are more than 1 kind of woman!
I can't believe any girl should expect to be sexualized just because some other girl acts sexy. Thats no excuse for a boy to not understand girls have autonomy. One girl is independent from another girl, like that boy is independent from any other boy. They are not all the same person god damn - +1 y
HOW is it idealistic to expect a kid to recognize 1 person is not the same person as another person? Are boys just morons? That's what I pretended to think in highschool to bully the shy kids. I was dumbest then but I didn't even legit think like that cause it's stupid. And I'm not smart. How can normal kids not recognize that if even I could at their age?
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@snackthatsmilesback haha and you were the bully even. that makes this all more ironic. I'm the one that got 6 different bullies to transfer out because i kicked their asses so many times. Are boys morons? Obviously there's a prime example. Every time they picked on someone else or ran their mouth I kicked their asses. It took mommy and daddy to transfer them out because the dumb ass kids wouldn't stop being ass hats. So there you go. That's the mentality of boys. Dont expect boys to be men, that's not how it works. Even now you exhibit naivety. I was once much more idealistic and believed things could be so objectively 2 dimensional. But that's not how this works, that's not how life works. And people come from different backgrounds. You want examples of how different cultures view and treat women? Go to the middle east, go to the far corners of eastern Europe, africa, they dont share your sentiments one bit. Did you even know that when Syrians, Turks, and Egyptians came to Europe they expected p*ssy on demand from European women? They got the idea that the things they saw on tv and on porn were how all women were. If you dont believe me you can watch how they treated European women. They groomed little girls, they played taharrush on them, they would grab them, yank down women's pants and panties right in the middle of stores. This got so bad that no go zones were put up in France, Sweden, the UK, and Germany. You give people a certain misconception long enough they're just going to run with it. Don't try to understand or comprehend the human mind or the individual. I am not an objectifier of women, far from it in fact. of my 87 followers only 28 are male. There is a reason for it. If you're looking to preach a sermon you're talking to the wrong guy. I already stick up for women not only on this site but in general. I am simply saying you are expecting too much from immature clowns. It is what it is
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So boys are morons. Fine. Then blame them and deal with them. Don't blame the women for being people. Don't say it's 2 dimensional or idealistic to expect someone to recognize a woman as a person. That's just basic human brain function
—even when i was bullying, I didn't somehow not realize girls were people, I just bullied people. Boys do not have human intelligence if they can't recognize a whole other sex as human.
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@snackthatsmilesback welp when your society loses cohesion and its identity and everyone is a hedonist out for themselves dont expect people to hold anyone including themselves to a higher standard. The more shit in the world you see, the more you experience first hand, the more jaded you become and the easier it is to let go of values. Take it up with them. A lot of them no longer see an valid reason to treat women better because they've got no hope in their own minds. they'll project those frustrations out that way. Its the whole reason the red and black pill communities exist in the first place. Do you think Elliot Roger saw women has humans? No he couldnt get laid and saw women having sex with what he deemed to be less desirable men. Men who are beneath him in his mind. He would go on the call women all kinds of nasty things. Even though most will never go postal like him much of his sentiments are shared amongst young men weather you want to accept and believe it or not. Even when I was at parties the guys only ever referred to the girls there as basically objects to be f'd. its no wonder that by the time I was 23 I stopped going to parties altogether. Its just the same old shit every time. I chose instead to hang around the older crowd of people because I dont care for the nonsense of most of the Western Youth who have no class or respect.
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Okay. Then we agree?
So, those men should* learn that everybody is a person. Women shouldn't have to stop acting like people just because it confuses the men who don't see them as people. - +1 y
@snackthatsmilesback my friend I have never, ever said to the contrary. simply you have people out here too narrow minded to see it. Remember you said you were pretty dense as a teen? I'm talking mostly young people, not older guys. Older guys should know better. A pig is a pig. But someone can start out a pig and reform into a gentlemen. If you noticed I never once referred to them as men but simply boys. That is to say that if you have a penis but see the world through such a lens then you never grew up! ^^
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That makes sense. I guess I'm just confused by your first comment then, it seemed like you were trying to blame girls for making boys think like that.
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@snackthatsmilesback a such is life when communicating through text
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So then what did your first comment mean?
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@snackthatsmilesback a few people poison the well for all of us.
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I'm not getting it still sorry
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@snackthatsmilesback its fine lol no worries
+1 yProbably going to deal with a measure of it no matter what you choose, especially if you find yourself in a majority male space. We're generally not nearly as gentle dealing with each other as we might be dealing with a female. Also, you're going to notice guys are a bit different dealing with you in that space because the sort of unofficial rules dictate that's how you interact. Some guys are going to target you more because you're an obvious outlier, some because they have some sort of hangup for whatever reason, and on top of that there's the regular personal beef that might come up. Whether it's gaming, a music scene, some sort of fandom, or whatever, that's just part of the deal.
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+1 yHonestly I'm not sure why people are so sensitive about this subject. Sexuality is a major part of the human experience, our desire for sex, love, Intimacy and connections constantly influence our perception of the world and the decisions we make. Therefore there's no need to separate our actions from our sexuality, how someone speaks, how someone walks, how someone does anything could be seen as attractive or a turn on. Nothing wrong about that.
Now is true that in modern times coorpations, advertisers, and mass media have monetized and exploited our basic human instincts to sell thier products and services? Absolutely. Exactly why we need to get sex out the darkness of the subconscious and bring it into the light of awareness and intentionality.10 ReplyThere isn't anything with that description that exists. Women could literally be doing nothing and they'd still be judged and sexualised. UNLESS you're an ugly/fat woman, then everything fits that description
60 ReplyI feel your pain. I get harsh criticism when Im doing good and harsh criticism when I’m doing bad. My advice is just don’t worry about judgment because they’re never going to be satisfied anyways. And there’s nothing with a woman being comfortable with her sexuality. It’s just society makes it seem like it’s a bad thing.
00 Reply388 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. This is really tough Question
For me I say anything you want.
But that's just the way that I see it not everybody is like me so no matter what I think you're always going to be up against that. And that's really kind of sad this is a good question makes you think01 Reply- 546 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic.
+1 yNothing. There is nothing anyone (male or female) can do where at least someone won't make fun of them or lust over them.
You shouldn't pick hobbies based on how others act or think, you should pick them based on what you find fun.
If you enjoy listening to music and gaming, you should do that.00 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yIf it’s usually what guys do they’ll get judged it just is what it is. Same as if a guy likes to get pedicures, shave his legs, drink cocktails, likes planting flowers, put on makeup they’ll get judged because that’s what girls do. It’s anything but manly, just like girls doing guy things it’s not girly.
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+1 yIt seems to me that a lot of women (on GAG anyway, or maybe it's true in their age group in the real world), listen to what a few fucking loser dudes say about something and translate it into "how come guys do this", or "seems like we (women) get sexualized or judged for that". What do you all think?
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+1 yI'm afraid that's a two way street, babe. I don't hunt and couldn't care even a little bit less about professional sports. Those are apparently prerequisites for a man in corporate America.
I was going to say that it's been getting better over the years, but I took a second to think about the state of our world and I honestly think it's only gotten worse. But the world's become a game of "look at the shiny object over here, while we f*** you over, over here."00 Reply
+1 yliterally saw children being sexualised in gymnastics and horse riding by men. i honestly lost all hope after that.
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explain?
589 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Nothing.
That's right, it doesn't matter, anything you do comes with judgement.
So, just do whatever you want.50 ReplyWhat about enjoying heavy metal music? 🤔 I've never really been made fun of or sexualized for the music I like.
10 ReplyI honestly don't know. Because I think there are guys like to make fun of girls for everything they do.
It's easy to say: Get over that. But being sexualized once by girls once I know it's not easy.00 Reply481 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. I have done a lot of hobbies and sports and I was backtracking them in my mind and most of them are sexualized?
Maybe like embroidery? Something very feminine, but then again also being called grandmaish...00 ReplyWhat's something anybody can do without judgment or sexualization?
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Men can pretty much do anything 🙂
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Sports, video games, music, art etc etc. Nobody judges a man for screaming at a football game but if I scream at a concert I'm a crazy fan girl 🤨
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Men don't get sexualized for playing videogames
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I'm the pudding.
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In* .
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God that would have been funnier without a spelling mistake
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See there's another... "Women can't be comedians because they're not funny" thanks for proving my point ☺️
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Jokes are meant to be funny 🙂
thats actually true. we live in a very patriarchal society
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+1 yEverything. Just need to learn to try the mind to see everything for what it is or how it is vs judging. Most things don’t need our attention.
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Just need to unlearn & relearn. Typo.
333 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. They are sexualized for gaming because of the "gamer girls" that wear skimpy clothes and stream. those types make a living on portraying gaming girls that way.
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+1 yName a hobby, there is a TikTok thot for it. The only good TikTok ever did me, was getting to hear the voice of a former love interest one last time. And also discover how without a soul she's become.
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+1 yI would say not just women even men have been victimized like if you cook or clean the house immediately comes the question are you a girl.
It's done people who are old but not wise enough yet who make such comments. I would say it's your life shove those guys aside do what you like and feel is right.00 Reply- 1.9K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic.
u +1 ythose who judge and sexualize, they do have a fixation to do so... so, anything and everything... that's what they're going to do
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+1 yThis is one of those things where you can make a “perfect world” and someone will always stand up and say “But I don’t want it perfect!”
00 Reply● kids!
● babysitting
● romantic comedy (or straight-out "romance"-genre) media
● the opposite sex's clothes
● Nursing00 Reply
+1 yThe thing is no mattew what people they will also get judge. men get juge for if they too good looking thery are juge for being a player or man whore. the other things. leaening disabities people get jugde more then anyone. for being cute.
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+1 yCars! I love them, but been make to feel awkward and stupid so many times
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+1 yGamer girls are awesome though 😎
Kids, animals, insects, outer space, nature, hiking, alcohol, shows, movies, reading. There's so much more but that's all for now.00 Reply890 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. The sexualization isn't because of the gaming, it's because they're female. Being around girls makes guys think of sex.
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Oh no it happens. No matter what. The question was rhetorical in a sense.
I never judge anyone. Everyone has a right to like whatever they want. Nobody should say anything about it
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+1 ySports horse back riding guns
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I was literally sexualized at 10 for horseback riding.
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Really damn
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Yep. Literally one of the reasons I stopped show jumping.
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Were you good at it
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Yes. Won a bunch of competitions
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Nice would you ever consider getting back into it
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yYou’ll have a better chance with doing unattractive things. But mostly there’s nothing you can do. Aging is basically the only sure way out, no one give a fuck about anything you’re doing when you’re old.
That’s life.00 Reply- 336 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic.
+1 yNothing. Basically you can not exist that’s the only option.
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+1 yMaybe plumbing?
I get what you’re saying23 Reply- +1 y
Porn ruined that one
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Trueee lol 😂
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hierma de Swedishshen Ploombenr vidden der biggen toollen forren der prettyttyen ladiessen blockennd pipenns.
i havenn der toollen beltlten and fixxen der vashingngen machinenn makenn prettyttyen ladydyen ploombingngen happyppyen
+1 yPeople always judge others, no matter who you are. But to answer the question, feminine hobbies for one.
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+1 yThey can’t do anything besides that go look at the talent on Tiktok haha there is none is all them trying to use their own bodies to get hits
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+1 yI know this isn't much but, Halloween night. The one night of the year, where girls can look like a slut, without being judged for it
00 ReplyScience, math, gardening, extreme sports, arts, I mean there are many things.
00 ReplyYou should do what makes you happy , what other people think isn’t important.
10 Reply@Smashingdoozy Or you can simply not give a fuck and keep doing what your doing.
10 Reply302 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Get over yourself. You're going to be judged regardless. You judge, we all judge. There is no holier than thou people. It's human nature
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being sexualised isn't being judged there's a reason they’re separate terms… wtf…
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i would agree if the addition of sexualisation wasn't there though.
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@friendlypelican You're not going to stop it though. Just like you'll never stop bullying or racism. That's part of humanity wether we want to admit that or not
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i never said anything about stopping anything 😭
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@friendlypelican But people complain about things and want change on certain things that are damn near impossible
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okay but i didn't. i personally dont even believe over sexualisation can be fixed in my lifetime as its core issues are too deep to just be “fixed” however it still can and has the ability to be changed there's no such thing as “impossible” when it comes to human values or behaviour. “leg” use to be seen as sexual and that for sure changed, breasts were sexualised later on, ankles are seen as sexual in some cultures. we created this ourselves and what can be created can be undone. human beliefs are liquid.
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@friendlypelican That's not the world we live. There can be no good without bad. And there can be no peace without war. There's a balance and that balance will never change not even for judgement.
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what are you on about all i said what over sexualisation isn't impossible to get rid of because its the result of humans own selves where the heck did you get the good and bad stuff from
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@friendlypelican The point im trying to make is that you're never going to CHANGE it. How are you gonna stop the millions that sexualize you? You can't. And another thing if a woman is sexualizing herself, she can't be too mad that she's goint to be sexualized by men. Can't have it both ways
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i never said i wanted to change it im just saying sexualisation is different from judgment and replying to you saying its impossible to “fix” 😭😭 i was talking in a general term. i think we are misunderstanding each other here.
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@friendlypelican Okay how would you fix it then?
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im not commenting on that for a reason. i never once claimed to have a solution or even want a solution. as i said before in my other comment, i dont even think itll change for a long, long time. shit like this changes gradually as awareness is given so just talking about it is already doing the maximum.
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@friendlypelican If you say so
+1 ystop caring about what other people thinks.
I'm not gonna stop sewing or watching barbie movies just because others consider it isn't manly.03 Reply- +1 y
there's a difference between watching barbie movies and being sexualised….
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@friendlypelican Being sexualized for your actions or being considered unmanly for your action are both are what other people thinks. You shouldn't care about what they think about you.
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@friendlypelican There isn't that much difference between people considering you sexy because of what you are doing and people considering you are unmanly because of what you are doing
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yInteresting kinda goes right along with " is there anything guys can be interested in without being JUDGED about it by women".
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Yes. Just be honest from day one and don’t hide or lie about intentions.
594 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Bird hunting, shooting.
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@Ninaface
You mean like this
I was fishing on holiday in florida when I ran out of bait, I saw a small snake nearby trying to swallow a frog.
knowing the snake couldn’t bite me with the frog in his mouth.
I grabbed him right behind the head, took the frog, and put it in my bait bucket.
Now the dilemma was how to release the snake without getting bit.
So, I grabbed my bottle of Jack Daniels and poured a little whiskey in its mouth.
His eyes rolled back, he went limp.
I released him into the lake without incident and carried on fishing using the frog.
A little later, I felt a nudge on my foot.
It was that snake, with two more frogs
+1 ythere's lots of stuff...
but nose picking is probably top of the list00 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI legitimately believed women ruined gaming. No one puts out addicting games anymore and its because its more about the art style, customizaton and shit than the gameplay
00 Replyanything you want, this isn't a real issue, stop listening to the left
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+1 yI got sexualized for wanting to play football, and at this moment I don't think we can be interested in anything without judgement or sexualization.
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+1 ynothing wrong with girls that like skateboarding or surfing 😅
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+1 ythe way the men in the replies will never get it.
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+1 yInternet cat videos are pretty safe,
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Don't jinx it 🤫
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@cookiecrusher
Dress like a modest woman probably
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+1 yvideo games
computers
painting12 Reply- +1 y
Woman video gamers are sexualized.
Woman in IT are looked at as if they're inferior, nerdy, and are also sexualized.
Woman artists are called hippies and guess what are also ✨sexualized ✨ - +1 y
my bad i dont follow those things much to know diff
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u +1 yCrocheting and knitting?
00 Reply Origami and virtually countless other things.
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+1 yI dont judge women girls what their interests are
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+1 yRaising kids. Nobody will give them shit for that.
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This is sarcasm right?
Lol i couldn't come up with anything...
10 ReplyJESUS CHRIST our savior.
10 ReplyLike guys, nothing, specially the judgement part.
10 ReplyKnitting perhaps I dunno
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