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What makes you think we have? Fifty-odd years ago, Lawrence Terreau changed his first name to "Mister" because that was the only way he could think of to be reliably referred to that way as a black man. That strikes me, and probably you as well, as truly bizarre- why limit such a small and simple measure of respect based on skin color?
Open-mindedness and a greater emphasis on meritocracy pushed us past that. But not all the changes have been positive: the decoupling of biological reality from social narrative means then when it comes to sex, the ONLY thing people have to go is behavior. Thus, we don't call a girl with boyish traits and habits a tomboy; we (well, our society, anyway) increasingly call her "trans" or "born in the wrong body"- they insinuate that she's actually a boy. Is she? Of course not- she's a girl with some masculine traits and habits. It hardly seems open-minded to go from "you can't do that because you're a girl" to "you do that, so you're a boy". We've gotten more dogmatic, not less.
What makes me think we have
Biden said that he would choose a female for the vice chair of board.. she was then asked to define what a female was.. and she said "i am not a biologist"
So my two questions are do you agree with transgenderism that people can choose what they want to be by words
And do you think you need to be a biologist to define a gender
A girl is male counter part God made from Adam’s rib
I used too but it ended in disaster and disappointment the few times I tried. What I actually do now is ride a dildo while sucking my boyfriend off or using a vibrator or this machine I bought so it's like there's another guy there the difference is somebody won't be intimidated by the other guy's penis being bigger and be unable to perform or the guys cumming long b4 I do. Like I let 5 guys do me one night, they all came in about 2 minutes of penetrative sex like WTF.
Do you cum from receiving oral?
A woman is a human female with xx chromosomes.
A woman is not a man on hormones.
If you have the right to identify as a pink unicorn, I have the right to think you are batshit crazy
Exactly if this is what people believe then i can commit a crime and say that i am innocent.. and because you have to accept my words i should be deemed innocent even though i am guilty.. the reality of this is dumb
I completely agree with you, but believe it or not there's studies out there with the chromosomes. X and Y might not identify male and female like we thought we did. Either way, a female is a female.
@blissinanarchy1 If those studies are done after 2015, I think I know the agenda behind it.
Oh no, has nothing to do with trying to validate transgenders. But theyre seeing xyx, xxx, xyy, and all types of combos im both men and women
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Sometimes. Generally I don't think so. In most areas it seems like the two go together, not against each other.
If a "girl" was actually just a person with certain physical/biological features, then I don't think a lot of problems would exist in the first place. There's a lot more associated with "girl" than just the physical body though. When something is "feminine" or "girly" that doesn't mean it has a vagina or xx chromosomes. That's more the "gender" stuff that causes so many issues for everyone. I don't know a very good definition for it tbh.
Because SELF no longer hold to an Absolute authority, absolutely. We choose to raise our fists at and scream NOoooo to our Creator, God.
This is why
Sounds about right
I believe anyone can identify as they want. You don't have to personally be attracted to someone who is transgender to respect their identity and them as a person.
Ok so as a black male if i said that i identify as a white woman how would you respond to that?
A person can call themselves whatever they want to.
However, it does not change what they are.
To say otherwise is to deny science.
A girl is anyone who identifies as one. Either by biological assignment or not. Doesn't make anyone less a girl.
Ok so as a black male if i said that i identify as a white woman how would you respond to that?
Gender is a social construct that can be changed. Race isn't.
There's a wide line between racist and cultural appropriation and cultural appreciation. When it comes to race, you can't change that, (though there's leeway for parents who are a different race than their adopted child).
Social construct - Social constructionism is a theory in sociology, social ontology, and communication theory which proposes that there are certain kinds of facts which, rather than depending on reality itself, instead depend on the shared ways of thinking about and representing the world that groups of people develop collaboratively.
Now gender should not have become a social construct due to the science of it but if we can make gender a social construct so can we make race..
i just feel like more of a white woman than a black male what is wrong with that?
There's a difference between sex and gender. Race is unchangeable because it's what you were born with. Your ethnicity isn't something you can change, your genes & birthplace aren't going to change. Gender has and always will be, something made by people. Sex is labeled by your biological features, it can be changed with hormones and surgery. Gender is a construct that can be changed.
Notice how you said my genes are not going to change.. because they do not.. i can dress up as a girl and get implants but my genes will always say XY and melatonin than you gor backing up my claim unknowingly
It's obvious you have a transphobic mindset, and there's nothing I can do to change that. Trans people aren't imposing on you, they're trying to have the right exist peacefully.
Phobic stems from phobia meaning fear i am not afraid of trans people just do not know why we are expressing was is classified in as a mental illness
if gender is a social construct than gender does not truly exist. Therefore being transgender is not a thing!
I haven't.
The word girl is a synonym for female animal, a female animal has an ovum capable of cloning herself or being fertilized by a male for reproduction.
Female humans produce microscopic eggs which get fertlized my males, then the female gives live birth through the cervix.
A female can lose this ability over time, or be born sterile, but is still structurally female afterwords.
if our minds are too opened our brains will fall right out
a man and a woman are defined by their chromosomes and genitals
Correct
Google is a thing ;)
Being "open minded" doesn't mean a person lacks common sense.
Ok so you are saying a girl is a female.. are you pro gender choice?
I agree anyone can claim to be anything.. but why do we accept this in a society and allow it to destroy things
What does it destroy? numerous things But i will give you this one
how do you feel about trans athletes dominating female sports?
Interesting so you are truly accepting of them why is that
Not truly*
The reason i can not accept and why people as a society should not either is that fact that they want to be inserted into the society we have now
I was watching a trans UFC fighter fight a female and it looked like a grown man just beating on a defenseless woman
Can you agree that there is something wrong with that
2. Can you agree that there is something wrong with a grown man in a bathroom with your 13 year old daughter because he claimed to identify as a female
And i explained how your point of having their own category will do no good because they their goal is not to be separate from society they want to be seen as with it
A trans female does not want to be labeled a trans female they want to be known a a biological female
So would you have a problem with that if they were not able to have their own category (because society is leaning away from that route and accepting them as what they say they are)
Pretty sure because people come up with bullshi and some people ain't puttin up with that. :)
Girl is anyone who identifies as such, it’s a social construct
Interesting.. i have a question as a black male if i were to say i identify as a white woman what would you say to that
I would say you have a mental illness because what you identify doesn’t match your appearance, attitude, culture etc…
So "being black" is intrinsic be being male or female isn't?
The fuck are you babbling about?
@BillyBalls no race isn't biological so it isn't intrinsic. It was found to not be genetic in 1936 by Huxley. You are American aren't you? You need to read more.
@Zeldaismyqueen So race isn't biological?
Genetics determine skin color. So how is race not biological?
@BillyBalls because there are no biological categories that match up even remotely close to the concept of race. Melanin in the skin is a normal distribution with no inherent groups. The groups like white and black are just made up by people since the 1400s (before race was based off of accent or citizenship not skin colour). It’s based on what people interpret based on appearance. There are no biological race categories.
It’s social.
In other words, there is no way I could take your dna and then say “you’re white”. They have known this since 1936. There are no racial genotypes. It’s just made up by people.
Do a DNA test on yourself and the results will show if you ancestors came from White Europe, black Africa or Asia.
To say a person's DNA does not determine skin color is to deny science.
@BillyBalls you didn’t understand what I wrote. Of course biology determines your phenotype, and ethnic groups share many phenotypes. But they do not match on to the concept of race, because race based on skin colour was just invented a few hundred years ago. You can tell someone’s ethnic group by their dna but you have to infer their race because race isn’t biological.
Something tells me you never studied biology lol
@BillyBalls no being black isn’t intrinsic, it’s extrinsic. Being male means having the sry gene usually found on the Y chromosome. Being black depends on an external observer or the individual themselves making that judgment. Because “blackness” is a social construct. Biology can’t tell you if someone is black or not… you can infer it from ethnicity but it’s not a genetic category. Race is just made up.
A girl is a female. She has XX chromosomes, and can typically have children at some point in her life.
Anyone who is XY, and claims to be a girl is mentally ill.
Yes it is literally classified as a mental disorder.. yet i get countless people saying to me it is harmless to society.. well so is depression and pedophilia right 🤦🏾♂️
Well ever since Miley twerked on Robin thicke common sense has been scarce we need to teach it in schools so it doesn’t die out
a girl is an individual of the sex that carries and brings forth offspring
I don’t get why y’all care so much about what someone calls themself. If you’re born a man and you want to dress and identity as a woman, I couldn’t care less. That shit doesn’t affect me
That is not the issue.. the issue is that it is affecting us.. forcing to teach our kids that a boy and a girl is just a mystical concept.. teachers in classes teaching about their own weird sexuality
When your daughter ends up in a bathroom with a bunch of men claiming to be females maybe then you would care
Nah I don’t think I would. I don’t know why people think that trans women have evil intentions when going into a female restroom, they’re just trying to piss lol
And I don’t see the issue with educating kids on the fact that trans people exist
Exactly my point everyone is just blind to the issues "they just do not see it" but just because i do not see air does not mean it does not exist
I don’t think I’m blind to issues. I think y’all just make up issues because you don’t have any other valid reasoning behind being transphobic.
But hey let’s just agree to disagree atp
Phobic stands for phobia which means fear i am not afraid of them i just care about their mental health more than they do 🤷🏿♂️
The word “phobia” in transphobia or homophobia doesn’t literally mean fear. The definitions of the words is having prejudice against them.
If you care about their mental health than you should care that transgender people, including children, who kill themselves because they aren’t allowed to be who they want to be.
I’d rather have someone change their gender if that’s what’s gonna bring them happiness rather than watch them commit suicide
Notice how you want to conform to their mental illness instead of recommending them help
And notice how Gay and trans people have the highest suicide rates and news flash it is not because "society does not accept them"
They hate themselves so much to the point that they want to distored anything that they once were and that is a clear unhealthy way of living and thinking
That is like telling a depressed person you are not depressed because your mom died you are finnally becoming who you were meant to be a sad dark suicidal person so stop trying to find help just embrace it
You clearly do not care about trans people because you care about what is more accepting rather than what will actually better their lives which is therapy counseling etc
An adult female human being should be the answer. But what do I know? I’m not a biologist
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because we have tried forced acceptance. that's just the natural reaction to that.
society has become cis-phobic normality haters...
like if i tried to force you to accept something, your natural reaction would be to distance yourself and fight back. and that's exactly what happens with people and all those non-standard sexualities.
Very true i see the same thing on topics with God even when it is not forced upon them
oh ever wondered why they were pushing for teaching alphabet sexuality in schools? cause they know from religion that a young impressionable mind with no critical thinking capabilities can be very easily indoctrinated.
that's the same thing that christian religion has been abusing for millennia. and it obviously works. a large percentage of people are still christian to this day.
So christians manipulate children by trying to raise them into christ?
well they indoctrinate them with christian way of thinkin, which is actually quite similar to all religious thinking.
it consists of learning to never questioning and the god. to always try to make god the answer for everything (even if obviously other things are a better explanation) and if you doubt, you just gotta belive harder. that of course combined with the all famous: "if you don't believe or follow, you go to hell". i'd say this is the trinity of religious indoctrination and pretty much every religion does that.
if you read more than one religious book and listen to more than one religions preacher, you'll find the same patterns everywhere.
Hm i find it interesting you came to that conclusion bc i found the opposite conclusion.. i surfed though all kinds of religions.. Luciferian theology.. atheism.. hinduism.. hebrew Israelites
But when I got to christianity i found out that it is nothing like any other religion.. every other religion had to do with do good be a good person that you might get into heaven
Christianity speaks about how we are sinners and there is no amount of Good we can do to save ourself which is why we must rely solely on the Grace of God and the sacrifice of christ for salvation "john 3:16"
In the other religions i had no assurance i could get into heaven but that is what christianity have given me
dude the christian bible is litterally a carbon copy if the hebrew faith. just like the muslim religion. they are come from the abrahamic god idea and if you really try to figure out that story (besides the nonsense that's written in the bible), you'll find a horribly mundane story of political power struggles in the middle east...
i'm not generally saying that the bible is nonsense. there's surely valuable annekdotes in there that can make you think about morals and stuff. but it is neither a science nor a history book at all.
i mean you even find lots of artefacts in the original bible texts that actually specifically adress "jews" which later got changed into "the inhabitants of israel" for obvious purposes.
I would talk about the credibility of the bible but that argument has well be addressed a long time ago and has been proven already
As much as you want to say it is not real personal experience tells me otherwise.. i understand the ignorance because i was once there yet i seeked the truth and led me to a unique god
Matthew 7:7-8
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
The issue is that no one seeks God.. no Good person on this earth.. we rather worship ourselves and deny the creator for no good reason.. people hate the fact that their is one above us but he loves us and he loves you too and the only thing he hates is the sin in us
All we have to do is repent turn from our sinful ways and trust in him with our lives
But i am not allowed to say that right because that is considered hate speech now somehow
well we all know jesus was the son of josef and marriah but since his daddy wasn't married to marriah, that would have made jesus a bastard who isn't entiteled to the inheritet position in the kingdom of david, aka the tribal rulerership of the 12 clan leaders of the jews, of which jesuses grandpa Jacob was one.
so in order to make jesus entiteled to his poosition of inherited power, it was very convenient to claim that mariah somehow got pregnant without joseph actually fucking her... which in those times people were actually dumb enough to believe. a timeless classic à la "i did not have sexual relations with that woman miss lewinsky".
of course that entire kingdom of david (or rulership of the 12 tribe leader) thing was quite problematic under the roman occupation at the time. actually the romans called people like jesus and his dad who fought for the rulership of the 12 tribe leaders "messiahs", which was a sarcastic remark and everyone at the time knew that if they catch you do this, you get cricified.
it's funny that he modern English translation lies and says that jesus was criucified with common thieves, which isn't true. he was crucified with other "criminals" like him that were being punished for treason.
so much for the historical accuracy. anyway, jesus may have existed or not. in don't really care. but if he did, and he actually was a notable outstanding person, i think he would have apeared in contemprary roman litterature. because unlike the assumed jesus followers at the time, the romans wrote their history down. there was of course some political interest and opinion involved but welll... no mention of some leader of the jews called jesus...
and the reason for that is that the god faith that christians copied was already over 1000 years older. i mean this entire yahweh thing goes way back.
lol you're litterally reciting the indoctrination programming that childrens brain are manipulated with xD wtf man. you somehow indoctrinated yourself and put yourself in that mind prison that people spend half their lifes breaking out of xD good job.
annyway. have a jolly good time with your favourite fiction. i'm out. see ya.
Luke 6:25
“Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.”
Another reason i believe it is because those text you described that was over 1k years ago how they apply so accurately to society these days.. even describes all kinds of people and how they react to the Good news of Christ
You say that i am indoctrinated.. yet anyone that sees a very faithful person we are labeled a "indoctrinated jesus freak"
I wonder who the real indoctrinated person is.. the one that believes ina creator or the people that believe the world created itself from nothing
the indoctrinated is who uncritically accepts a believe uncritically. like if i tell you that i believe in a god that will send you to eternal damnation and hell for believing in the christian god, the very same logical reason you would tell me that i'm full of shit also applies to the faith you're holding. since you do not apply that logic to your own faith, you believe uncritically, thus you're indoctrinated by definition.
Boys are born with a penis.
Girls are born with a vagina.
Simple.
Guess you’re talking trans rights. Common sense actually tells us that large numbers of a community wanting a harmless thing is ok.
Elaborate how it is harmless to the community.. when trans people start to dominate women's sports i wonder when people will start to speak up more than they already have
Your point?
Are you implying being open-minded and having common sense are mutually exclusive? What a terrible outlook.
A girl is a young female person.
Naturally born and not scientifically modified in a room
A girl is a young female who has not know a man yet. She has not prosper and bloom into a young woman yet
A girl is a cowgirl that you impregnate and she delivers babies to you
Exactly so we can agree words have value right.. i am just baffled at the fact we can choose what we want to be by word
Interesting reality you live in...
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I think people have gained more common sense and became more accepting.
Do you mind elaborating for me please?
Yeah, so it generally seems that people have become more accepting of transgendered people.
Frankly, this should be common sense to accept a person for what makes them feel comfortable with themselves.
So we should live life based on feelings rather facts.. i will ask you this
I am a black male if i were to say that i was a woman you would have no issue with that correct? - i will answer this for you i can tell you answer will be yes
But what if i were to say i am a white woman.. how would you respond to that
Interesting way to shift the conversation to race but okay.
But the answer to that is still a yes. Does the fact that you identify as a white woman harm anyone in any capacity? I will answer this for you... no, it doesn't. So why should it concern you what someone else identifies as?
Race is apparently a title.. gender is apparently a title so claiming races is not a shift in conversation still falls on the same topic of people choosing what they want to be by words
2. Why does this affect me? That argument is invalid that is like saying why does people abusing dogs concern me it does not affect me in anyway right?
3. I am above 18 years old.. what if i were to say i am a 12 year old white female how would you respond to this
On second thought, yeah it's not really a shift in conversation.
I'm sorry, but that argument isn't invalid. You are a person that gets to choose what does and doesn't affect you. If you choose to have your day ruined by what someone else identifies as or who they may love, then you are really the person to blame here. It is your choice.
And if you want to go around saying you're a 12 year old white girl, by all means go for it. I won't stop you.
It does affect me.. what if i want my wife and my daughter to use a public bathroom but a group of men walks in claiming to me girls stands and watches everyone.. would you be ok with that?
And notice how you just gave up and did not want to admit that i am not what i said i am to keep your side of being pro transgenderism
That's not giving up. That's called being accepting.
Also, I wouldn't be comfortable with anyone just coming into the bathroom and watching me, regardless of what they identify as. So let's not be ridiculous with some of your "what if" scenarios.
I've used the restroom at the same time as transgendered people and never once has any of that happened.
I've noticed that the only people that ever think of it bring up being creepy with gender identity are the ones that would never identify another gender even to prove a point.
Those that do identify as a gender other than what they were born as aren't doing it to be creepy or to get to use the bathroom with a specific gender. They do it for themselves. They do it to feel right. To feel like they are who they are meant to be.
They aren't doing it to inconvenience you and for family.
This is where I'm going to end this discussion. I've said my peace and whether or not you chose to try to understand it, that's on you.
Thank you for you time
Proves my point that just because someone has claimed to be something it does not mean that they are what they claim to be.. girl is a girl and a boy is a boy no matter what they feel or think
And as of now no one sees the issues of it in society but eventually they will.. and female athletes for example are already speaking up on the matter
"You are a person that gets to choose what does and doesn't affect you."
IF it stopped at that, nobody would have any problems. But it does affect other people when you are forced to accept and play along with other people's crazyness.
You are forced to use a made up language, you are forced to accept as a woman that you are a menstruator, and a birthing person. So yeah it does affect me in the name of inclusivity which is a bullshit concept on its own
Thank you very well said
You sound like a very unhappy person if you let so much of what others do affect you so much.
I am happy to know my head and morals are screwed on properly.. but it makes me sad to see people expressing their mental issues instead of getting help.. the issue us that i care so sorry that i care
If people truly have "an open mind" they will have common sense.
Elaborate
Because we have choice. In gender, in sexuality, in orientation.
So it is okay to give up common sense to be open and more accepting of people?
(I am a black male) What if i said i was a white woman what would you say to that?
You got it, white girl
Ok what if i said i was a 12 year old white girl how would you respond to that
Get a surgery
If gender is not tied to physical sex why do transgender people get healthy body parts cut off?
@BillyBalls Their body their choice
@BillyBalls I'm a firm believer of the concept — whether one is getting cosmetic surgery or changing whole sex, who cares. If they can afford it good.
A girl is born with a vagina and has femAle chromosomes.
A girl - has a vagina
girl that is born with a vagina
I am a girl and I don't know the definition!
Gross
What's the difference
The open mind is the readiness to consider something without prejudice
And common sense is good sense and sound judgment in practical matters
It's same means in my native:/ but looking different in English.
Ok you mind answering a question for me?
Where do you stand on transgenderism
I'm straight
Referring to do you accept it or reject it
I do not accept as a muslim. and i pray i hope they gets better
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