Is it true that women often say one thing but and mean something completely different?

[HappyWoman34]

someone I knew said that he doesn’t listen to women’s words, but instead, pays attention to their actions. Are many women indirect? Sure, I’ve met some, although I don’t think we’re all like that. Or are we?

[Anonymous]

Absolutely true.

Try a socratic dialogue on your woman. Ask her to clarify what she means by x y or z terms. Have her define her terms and concepts.

Women don't like this I have found. They're too busy being emotional and they love it. They love to wallow in their emotions and they act and speak while under the influence of emotions. It's like a drug.

Many women believe that their emotions are REAL INFORMATION AND TRUTH.

Many women believe in "energy" and that their emotions are tied to energy.

These women believe that they know things by "feeling" them.

If you engage in Socratic dialogue with a woman like this she will get upset or shut down. These kind of women can't understand why a person would need to define terms and clarify concepts.

This type of women thinks that she is communicating on a higher level because other women who are equally as stupid all believe the same thing. And many women believe in this crap.

This type of women thinks all men are stupid because we don't live the way they do. She thinks women are superior to men because of female emotions which she believes give her insight into absolute truth which men are not privy to as inferior and less emotional beings.

These kinds of women are the most horrifically ignorant and stupid people I've ever met and it's like a lot of women think like this.

Every single one of them is a numb Skull with zero understanding of the real world. Zero understanding of science. In fact, to this kind of woman, science is a thing done by men who know nothing and need to use science to help themselves. To this kind of woman, math is an evil tool created by men. The only truth one needs is emotions and energy.

If men were like women and intuited like they do, the world would be a better place.

And so on with silly crap like that.

So yes. Women say one thing and mean another. They don't even know what they mean.

All they know is they feel some type of way and they believe however they feel is intuiting truth. If she feels jealous she thinks you're cheating because she believes her emotions are triggered by truth.

Yea thats a stupid MFer right there.

[Juxtapose]

That's what I have learned to do for most people because people constantly lie to me without me even knowing it so the only thing I can really TRULY trust is their actions.

[thatshydork]

Sometimes. I know when I’m mad and tired of arguing with someone, I say “Good day.” and walk away but I don’t really mean have a good day, I really mean ‘I’m angry and I’m going to say or do something I’ll regret if I don’t walk away right now.’ Also some things I notice people say that they might not mean (depending on where you are):

”oh bless (his/her/their/your) heart”

”I’m like 5 minutes away!”

”Just left the house!”

[Nikki1989]

That applies to both some men and women.

[DannyUk2017]

Yes, that is same thing as the sound of it but totally different meaning.

[Lliam]

Some women, maybe. Not all.
My wife is pretty good at communication.
The thing about women, though, is they are not always direct. There are cliches about women who look upset but when I guy asks her if anything is wrong, she says "No" because she expects him to know why she's upset. Or when he says he's going to go play golf or something and she says "Fine" in a tone that says it's definitely not fine.

I used to be amused at my wife when we were driving someplace and she would say "Do you feel like a snack", meaning that she wanted a snack but didn't want to be pushy. Or she would ask it I needed to stop at a gas station meaning that she had to pee. Or she would say "Are you cold?" meaning that the AC was on too high.
Women like consensus instead of just saying what they want. But it's not too hard to learn women-speak. If a guy doesn't understand that, he'll take the question literally and give a direct answer "No." LOL

[Anonymous]

Yes. For example, if you ask a girl to be your girlfriend:

- If she says yes, she just means yes.

- If she says no, she means you should continue to ask her out until she says yes.

- If she says she already have a boyfriend, she either means she can provide evidence of her boyfriend actually dating her and that if she breaks up with him she will date you, or she can’t prove said boyfriend is dating her she means you should continue to ask her out.

- If she says she is a lesbian, she either means she is bi and wants you to have another girlfriend in addition to her, or that she will date you as long as you pretend to be "genderfluid" and let her call you girlfriend instead of boyfriend, in the privacy of your own home.

[HappyWoman34]

I had no idea women could be so complex. I tend to be a very direct person.

[thatshydork]

Personally, if I say no, I mean no. If you keep asking me, that no will turn into get the f away from me. If I say already have a boyfriend, it means I’m uncomfortable and I don’t want to go out with you. Both mean leave me the hell alone/I truly don’t want to go out with you, so stop fucking asking or don’t ask me again. The last one, I’m not LGBTQ but some of my friends are and if you have another girlfriend when you’re with them, they’ll kick the shit out of you and then leave you. The gender-fluid thing is also not something that most people in the LGBTQ community want.

These are all toxic ideals that make it very scary to be a woman in society today. If a woman says no, she means no. Stop making women feel uncomfortable just because you think we’ll change our answer if you keep asking. No means no.

[Opinion Owner]

@thatshydork Fyi, kicking the shit out of someone is assult and illegal

[thatshydork]

FYI, not taking no for an answer and continuing to bother someone after they’ve said no is harassment.

[Opinion Owner]

@thatshydork Two wrongs don’t make a right. Don’t make yourself a criminal by assulting someone for talking to do you. You claim the examples in my answer to this question are toxic ideals, but nobody takes harm by being spoken to. Thats far worse.

[thatshydork]

But you see, not taking no for an answer and not leaving someone alone when they’re obviously trying to say no without saying the actual word ‘no’ is toxic. You’re saying it like it’s ok, but it’s not. Those ideals lead to sexual harassment and sexual assault. No means no, not ‘keep asking me until I say yes’. ‘I have a boyfriend’ means leave me alone/no, not ‘I’ll date you when we break up’. Someone being in the LGBTQ community means that they’re in the LGBTQ community, not ‘she wants you to have a girlfriend while dating her’ or that she ‘wants you to lie to her and say you’re gender-fluid’. You spewing these incorrect and dangerous ideas is toxic and is one of the many reasons why women don’t feel safe around men and why the LGBTQ community gets mistreated. If you can’t see that, that’s on you. If you deny it, you’re only continuing to be a part of the problem.

[Blueeyes81]

Not all women but yes. I had an ex who never ate anything but organic, according to her. She prided herself on it and often chastised people for their eating habits. Oddly enough I'd always catch her eating m&m's, sneaking in a pop, basically eating everything she said she never ate. I learned with her that she was all talk and I'd be better off ignoring her words and to go off her actions. There have been many other women I've noticed saying one thing but doing the opposite.

Men tend to be more direct and women more indirect. As a result they are always looking for hidden meaning in people's word chose.

[ManOnFire]

Sounds like that person is me, because I say the exact same thing. It is very true. Women often say things because they think it's what we want to hear, or they say a certain thing just to be nice, or because it's what they think they're supposed to say, but think or do the total opposite. I almost never pay attention to women's words, I pay much closer attention to what they do and how they behave, those things speak way louder.

[Hulk_kitty]

I think we can all be like that, I can sometimes say something, and actually sometimes meant something completely different. I think people say things, without actually understanding the meaning behind what they are saying.

a lot of the time people will say things, without the awareness of what they are saying. I have done many times, I have said something to someone, and later I think shit, why did the hell I say that.

I don't just think women do it, men do it as well.

[Anonymous]

One of the common types of question on here is 'What does he mean when he says X?'

The answer is invariably either exactly what was said (because guys just say what they mean, they are direct) OR it is completely unknowable.

Women want the inside scoop, they want to be able to navigate through the world without ever showing their hand, they are manipulators, they are inherently dishonest.

[Unit1]

Can be.

Maybe they are afraid of being direct.

Maybe they want to relay what they mean but they feel they can't or want to say it in cryptic manners.

Maybe they don't understand themselves either.

Understanding women? No big deal. Everything is possible. I love women.

[kellytheman]

Yeah I have experience women like that and expect me to read there minds. I sometimes know if something is bothering them or want me to do something but they don’t by there body language or how they act but sometimes it can be frustrating and annoying.

[Daniela1982]

There is always that possibility.

[Anonymous]

I ASSUMR WOMEN THINK OF 4 TO 5 LIES BEFORE EVEN CONSIDERING BEING TRUTHFUL.
sorry about the accidental capslock. Yoo lay to retype it.
Im not being critical of women per se.
Theyre strange creatures. Absolutely amoral whilst pretending not to be.
Diabolically gorgeous.
You know theyre compulsive liars but want to trust them anyway.
I wouldntve created them anything like the way they are if i was god.
And idve been wrong

[Sonorous]

Women tend to be more indirect than men. It's a survival mechanism due to being the physically weaker sex.

[Pacquet]

I’d say most western women I’ve met are indirect. Your friend is right though, paying attention to women’s actions is a way more reliable source of information.

[Vegasrunner]

Yes, this is a pretty standard pov for men that have success w/ women. Typically what a woman says is just based on how she's feeling at that moment.

[slatyb]

If a woman can't communicate directly in words, I'm done.

[DarkLegacy]

Completely true. It is all part of the manipulation to get their own way all the time and get away with bad things.

[ProbablyClueless]

I'd say that your friend is pretty much spot-on.

[jeffend888]

Yes, all the time. Never ever ever pay attention to words.

Actions tell the story for everyone.

[Jdodkfndosn]

I'm fine.
I don't care.
I'm not looking for a relationship right now.
Etc

[AmeerX]

Indeed many women are in fact doing things different from what they mean to say 🤣

[LiamJHayden]

Some do, some don't. The ones who do act sort of like "nice guys" do with women.

[Sparkie460]

Yes it is absolutely true. My wife does it all the time

[BLP11520]

Yes, they do and men are left in the dust so to speak. You can know a woman for years and still not understand as much as you want to do so.

[Chthou95]

Yes. This is why it's important to pay attention to what they respond to, over what is said

[EmmaMary]

Both men and women alike.

[CoolCatMar1]

This does not apply to every woman

[Starrrboy]

Is an elephant heavy? Hahaha 🤣

[dolemite58]

i was gunna say is water wet 🤣🤣

[Starrrboy]

@dolemite58 🤣🤣

[jahaims]

Women tend to be less direct

[Lokiion]

Depends but usually

[Tomisworthless]

I don't know you're a woman you tell us

[abc3643]

You are all like that.

[jackinoff]

Actions do speak louder then words

[Christsdisciple15]

No (genuine)

[Anonymous]

Same thing with men

[Chthou95]

Men are more direct than women. Women expect men to read minds

[Opinion Owner]

@Chthou95 Maybe that's true for the women you date and your mother, sister, and grandmother.

[Chthou95]

Its a fact. In general men are more direct

[Opinion Owner]

@Chthou95 so yo momma, your sister and yo granny are not direct?

[Chthou95]

For the most part, no.

[Anonymous]

The average woman lies 6 times an hour

[sirderpsalot123]

It's true

[Charliefretz329]

Yep 👍

[Anonymous]

Well duh.

[Anonymous]

Of course.