1 yWait, I’ve seen logical, and cognitive fallacies in questions before, but your question is one of the 7 formal cognitive fallacies, it’s a “hasty generalization”. You are assuming your thesis that men only want women to change things we can, while women only want men to change things you cannot, that is not correct!
First, men have certain standards for long term relationships (LTR), as they should. If you prefer black women, then that’s what you prefer. If you prefer white women, then likewise, that’s what you prefer. Nobody has a right to judge you if you only date women of a specific race, who cares? But no woman can become another race! Yet you say men only judge women on things we can change? What if you like thick women, or “thin-thick” women? I have a GREAT ass, for white guys, but I’ve had more than one black male friend joke that “gurl, you fine as hell, but you ain't got no ass, I need some ass on my woman!”. So how do I change that? Surgery? I know men who love big breasted women, but they HATE “fake titties”. How would a small breasted woman change that?
Before I was in a LTR here at college, I dated a lot of guys, and I’ve had some awful dates! Guys who I liked, but they wouldn't date a woman who didn't like “indy-rock” whatever that is, another guy who I went on one date with, would not date a woman unless she was a Trump-loving conservative! I dated a guy once who literally ended the date because I was studying to be a psychologist, and he despised all psychologists, and said he would never date a psychologist! How would I change that?
Let’s be honest here, if you found a lamp and rubbed it, and a genie popped out, offering you three wishes. You list of all the qualities of what you believe is the perfect woman. genie snaps his fingers and suddenly the door opens and in walks a woman with literally every single quality you love. She has the perfect face for you, the perfect body, the perfect body proportions. Everything is perfect… Except for the fact that she's 3 foot tall. You have two more wishes, would you wish that she was taller? Because I promise you SHE cannot change her height! OK, exact same example but this time she walks in and she's 7'6” tall… again, are you really telling me you would want a 7'6" tall woman, or would you want the genie to change her height, which is something SHE cannot do? There are men who want lots of things from women that we cannot change. And yes, some women want some ridiculous things that men cannot change. Especially if you want to date the kind of woman who shows up on dating shows like Whatever and Fresh & Fit! Because, frankly that is the only place I’ve ever seen any woman say she wants a guy with a certain size dick! (and by the way the size THEY say, is only 6” not 8” which 8” would hurt like hell to me! ).
One of my friends has what’s called an “ectomorphic body type”, meaning that she is skinny and tall. She’s about 5’ 11” and weighs 125lbs, and there is NOTHING she can do to gain weight! (I hate her for that!) She can eat whatever she wants and she won’t gain a pound. but despite her being a model, there are a LOT of guys who will not date a skinny woman with small breasts, and no ass! She cannot change that. Do NOT say she can get implants, because NOBODY should need to get surgery to get a man’s (or a woman’s) attention! Besides, she can't change her weight, or her height, which is most guy’s issue with her!
There are PLENTY of women you would not date because there is something about them that you do not like physically! I’m not talking about “hooking up” for a night, I’m talking a relationship! This is so much projection going on here, that you could get a job in a movie theater! You need to stop watching dating shows like Whatever and Fresh and Fit, as well as all the other shows like that. if that's the kind of woman you want, a beautiful only fans girl, then yes, she's probably gonna expect six figures, 6 inches, and 6 feet tall. the rest of us however… We just want decent guy with extensive humor who will treat as well and not cheat on us!
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1.5K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. That's not true... Many times there are things a girl asks a guy to change that are adjustable, but the guy is stubborn. Meanwhile, many girls will go through GREAT LENGTHS to change even fundamental core values just to be with their guy.
in my opinion, as long as a person (guy or girl) is not being asked to (1) change a core value or characteristic (something that essentially makes them who they are) or (2) change more than 10% from the way they naturally are, then there shouldn't be any issue with making a minor adjustment in the name of creating a lasting relationship. If a person is expected to change too much (either from their core or the %), it can lead to feelings of resentment and unhappiness.
Essentially, when you pick someone, don't expect to change them. You need to love them as they are.07 Reply- 1 y
I think folks choose each other. It's not always the one gender choosing or changing... Both should be accepted as they are and perhaps some minor adjustments made on both sides to facilitate being together if the intention is a committed and lasting relationship.
Ok, please lmk what you were aiming at, then bc I might have missed your actual question. - 1 y
Ah! Got you. See, I've never gone for a guy for those sorts of reasons, so it's why I missed it, lol.
If a girl is SO materialistic and shallow that those are the traits she's picking on then she's not worth your time or effort -- she wouldn't be worth any guy's time or effort, frankly. A real woman -- a good woman -- just wants a good man.
Actually, weight is something that's hard for some folks to change for different reasons, so perhaps don't think of it as TOO changeable.
I'm going to think a little more about the "making fun" part because off the top of my head no one I spend time with would do that, ever. Maybe change the circle of women you're around? None of my female friends does that.
1 yWell yes definitely they always try and say I can sleep if I try different things usually meds but they don't have any idea about it, how much I've actually tried and I can't stop going off into the forests or in nature I need it to relax and maybe sleep
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1 yPeople have whatever standards they have and complaining about them won't make a difference.
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It's not like most guys don't prefer girls women shorter and sometimes younger than them right?
It's all preferences, what others prefer shouldn't bother you. Being your partner's preference is all that matters.
Besides, women do like taller men but it's not like most of us refuse to date anyone who isn't 6'. Not all preferences are as important as you think.
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1 yOh look, double standards again :)
Women cannot change whether they look beautiful or not.
A man can change his attitude and instead of blaming women for preferring taller men he could go to the gym and build the best version of himself.
If a man leaves a woman at the age of 40 for another woman she cannot change anything. She can't magically become young again.
A man on the other hand will be considered a silver fox.
So no, I can't see any unfairness here. That being said, you've got no idea on how much work women put into looking good (I know because I am one).
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Women literally do change to try and become beautiful, it's a multi billion dollar industry, 2 of them actually. Makeup and cosmetic surgery, look at any model or influencer and most of them are not natural.
There is undoubtedly double standards for both sides that differ in age, a curve so to speak where women start high and gradually move lower where young men do the opposite (extremely generalized) but your first statement is entirely untrue.
Anonymous(25-29)1 yFor the last time, men and women aren’t equal. You can have all of those standards but the woman like that won’t settle for a man that looks like you. You want a woman with a flat stomach, no makeup and skinny and so do the 6’3” 8” dick dudes.
Dudes like you who are constantly comparing themselves to women are a cancer to society.05 Reply
Opinion Owner1 y@massb Dating is optional. Therefore, you are more than welcome to pick whatever standard you want in a man or woman. If you want a woman with green eyes, you can go find that. If I want a man that’s over 6’2” I can go find that too. So what.
Opinion Owner1 y@kylee2437 Indeed.
9K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. That is 100% false. Men judge women on what they can't change all the damn time.
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1 yNot really comparable. The girls options given here are changeable. The mens options are choosable.
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They don't have to date a certain height. Just don't even approach them. That isn't judging its choosing.
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That's okay though. Preferences are fine. Judging men/woman or hurting them, putting them down is not okay. You can choose to not date types without hurting others.
That’s a false statement. Men judge women on body count, which is something a woman can’t change.
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Learn to read start with that. I say that women judge men on thing we can't CHANGE, like hieght. Body count is something you literally can. You decide who you sleep with. We're you forced to have sex with those men or was it a choice. It's because women can get sex so easy it's not something that's earned
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@massb it is the same thing. It’s two things that people can’t change. Just because one could never be changed, doesn’t make it a more valuable argument. If you feel like men can have a preference when choosing a woman with body type, then I’m not quite sure why you are offended by women that have a height preference.
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Can you choose not to sleep around? Yes
Can you work out and lose weight? Yes
Can you be caring and loving? Yes
Things you have control over for the last time. Idc that it's in the past you have say in who you fuck and what food you eat. Women sleeping around means you don't respect yourself.
Would you be with a guy that's 5 ft 3 and 400 pounds? That has no job and can't drive with a small dick? - 1 y
@massb women don’t have to change for the sake of you when it comes to their appearance. It sounds like you have severe control issues and think you are on some kind of superior basis where you think a woman should hold herself to your standards before you make the move and simply leave her because she isn’t your type.
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@massb you are the one that said women have the most options, we can do whatever we want. The difference is, is you men will start dating someone you were never interested in from the beginning and ridicule her because she still isn’t the woman you want her to be (based on stuff she has no control over, and stuff she shouldn’t be controlled with)
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Fine you win. Women have no control or say in who they fuck. They should never face any repercussions for anything they do and should never be held accountable for anything. Men should lower there standards and accept any women no matter how they come or act. I'm literally trying to say that you say who you fucked in the past doesn't mater and he should accept it even if you fucked over 100 men. So I'm saying should he be okay with it if he or you never knew that you messed around with someone he knew. But from a long time ago.
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There's a difference between if she was In relationships and had sex with her exes or if she was just fucking guys all over the places then wants to settle down with him. But I'm saying it's cool women can do no wrong your right I'm wrong. Women should have whatever preferences they want and men should just take whatever a women does and accept her
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It literally does , from that point you literally choose who you sleep with. Your acting like women automatically have like hundreds of guys they fucked and have no choice. Everything in life you have a choice. But women don't like taking responsibility which yous showing. If I do something I have to take responsibility for it.
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If you get arrested for something police will forever bring it up if anything was to happen even if your not a part of it that's how it goes. That's why criminal records are there. But you think you can tell them it's the past that's not me anymore.. they will say you still did it and have to face the consequences
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Your a woman so you literally have no idea what men go through. You see through the lens of a woman who has no struggle in dating so it's easy for you. A woman literally tried living as a man for 18 months as a expirement and she took her life a few years later because it destroyed her phycology
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Funny how you ignored my comment about a woman doing the experiment being a man for 18 months then killing herself years later because it was to much.
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379 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Like is not fair. When we were all walking around with are stuff hanging out, big dick guys got more women.
10 ReplyWell I guess because the nature of a woman has shifted due to liberal feminist policy. They are could and car for numerous uno.
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@massb where did I say women have no choice in who they sleep with? You aren’t that special to the point where a woman is thinking about you before you are even in her life, and she doesn’t have to. A secure woman is not going to go for the man that thinks her past is a bigger issue than what she currently brings to the table. Just like a secure man is not going to dwell on a woman that cares about a man being 6 ft, that is why there’s plenty of men under 6 ft in relationships, and getting laid.
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m 1 ynever really heard of it
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