Is it misogynistic to call out women's bad behavior?

[Taylor22424]

Yes

No

[Anonymous]

Gender should have nothing to do with this question. It's never bad or wrong to call a person out for their bad behavior, regardless of their gender, and regardless of the gender of the person calling them out.

Speaking of bad behavior, how long is GAG going to allow people like @Billlewis to pretend to be the opposite sex on GAG? I mean seriously.

@msss98 Why does a person's relationship to someone behaving badly matter? If someone behaves badly, anyone affected can and should call them out for it, don't you think? If not, why? And why is a guy who calls out a woman's bad behavior an "incel"? Is a woman who calls out a man's bad behavior a femcel then? Sorry, but you as a woman don't get a pass on your bad behavior just because you're female.

[Lliam]

You said "women's" behavior, not "a woman's" behavior. So what you are talking about is bitching about women in general.
Would you consider it misandrist for women to bitch about men's behavior?

You can do what you want, but I don't appreciate people who try to make others conform to their own personal morals/values/beliefs. What makes such people so self-righteous? It's like the kind of religious nuts who want everyone to conform to their beliefs. Fuck them.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

No. It would be to call out ONLY women's bad behavior and not men's bad behavior, or to call it out as inherent to women & therefore women=bad, but I assume that's not what u mean.

[Taylor22424]

Even if it were to just call out ONLY women bad behavior.

Why would that be misogynistic? Rationalize that for me.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Cuz it'd be a double standard that favors men over women, wouldn't it?

[Taylor22424]

Double standards doesn't mean "misogynistic".

The majority of women expect their man pay on the first date.

Its almost never the other way around. If she pays, there won't be a second date...

That is a double standards that favors women over men, wouldn't it?

Would that make the woman misogynistic?

Answer that.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

I said it's a double standard THAT FAVORS MEN OVER WOMEN. There's all sorts of double standards some that even have nothing to do with gender. It's the favoring men over women that makes it mysoginistic. That's what I mean.

[Taylor22424]

And I ASKED:

"Is it misogynistic for women to expect the man to pay on the first date?"

I already know what you mean...

You still haven't answer the question..

"Is it misogynistic for women to expect the man to pay on the first date?" Yes or no, and why?

It's a double standard that favors women over men...

[GOLDFISH_smile]

I don't think so. It may not even be a double standard. If she went on a date with a woman would she expect the woman to pay for her too? If so then it's not a double standard after all. If not & she only expects men, then that would be her having a double standard that favors women over men. She'd be acting misandrously. I think that's the word.

Sorry you just didn't seem to understand what i was saying bc u thought it would apply to the date example & it doesn't.

[Taylor22424]

Then I don't think is misogynistic to call out women's bad behavior. It may not even be a double standard. If a women sees another woman being a hoe, should she be expected to call her out? If so then it's not a double standard after all. If not & it's only the men, then that would be her having a double standard that favors women over men. She'd be acting misogynistic. I think that's the word.

Sorry you just didn't seem to understand what i was saying bc u thought double standards only exist in men without intellectual honesty.

You see how I turned ALL this around? If you believe what you said. Then I what I said, contrapositively, should mean the same thing, right?

[Taylor22424]

You see what happens when you can't rationalize your argument.

You say

Double standards that favors men over women is misogynistic.

And also said

Double standards that favors women over men ISN'T misogynistic.

When its clearly unfair for the woman because it displays prejudice indirectly towards the women.

[Taylor22424]

It is just prejudice that you don't see as a problem... Almost like it benefits you...

You see? Rationalizations. You need to learn it

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Sorry what? I don't know what you're even trying to say with that so imma just explain what I think about that sorta shit.

If you judge a woman for being a hoe, and also judge a man for being a hoe, that's not a double standard.
If you DO judge a woman for being a hoe, and DONT judge a man for being a hoe, that's a double standard that favors MEN. (mysoginy).
If you DONT judge a woman for being a hoe, and DO judge a man for being a hoe, that's a double standard that favors WOMEN (misandry).
If you DONT judge a woman for being a hoe, and you DONT judge a man for being a hoe either, that's also not a double standard.

You can replace "you" with anyone, man or woman. Who's using the standard doesn't matter for this. And i think misandry is ALSO BAD, in case u didn't know I thought that.

You didn't turn anything around, I don't know wtf u did. Hope this reply helps clear up my opinion at least...

[Taylor22424]

You say " I don't know what you said or "wtf" you did."

Also you:

"You didn't turn anything around."

This ultimately destroyed your logical credibility.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Bruh. I don't know what you DID. I know one thing u didn't do is turn shit around.

Thanks for telling me what parts confused u, but if u have more problems with my "logical credibility" just ask instead of accusing me of lying, okay? I'll be more happy to explain shit for u if u stop being weird & aggressive about it.

[Taylor22424]

First you say "I don't know what you did"
Then you say "U didn't turn shit around".

I say: "You don't know what I did"

[GOLDFISH_smile]

If I say "i dont know what that is, but it's not an apple" have i contradicted myself?

[Taylor22424]

No... it's about the incompleteness of your intellectual credibility. To put it simply, it's lack of integrity on your end.

It's not about "contradiction", girl...

It's about actual 100% understanding.

You are partially understand something (like some apple you are talking about) and labeling it as 100%.

"How do you know it's not an apple"?
"How you know if that judgement of yours is correct"?

That leads to more questions... This is what you are doing.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

If you think I've misunderstood u then why don't you try and explain yourself better?

Why do you think a double standard that favors women over men should be called misogyny instead of misandry? Why don't you think misandry is bad? These are the things you disagreed with me about.

[Taylor22424]

Now you are just making up sentences and labeling it as what "I said".

Girl, do you even know the laws of logic at all,?

This is why I'm not taking this conversation seriously anymore. You want me to explain something to you "better" when what I said went completely over your head.

[Taylor22424]

Let me say one thing again...

"Double standards don't mean you are misogynistic."

Now, let's take your questions:

Why do you think a double standard that favors women over men should be called misogyny instead of misandry? ---- Never said that, look at the statement above.

Why don't you think misandry is bad? These are the things you disagreed with me about. --- Never said that and show me where I "disagreed", look at the statement above.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

Okay good! I'm glad I just misunderstood and we really never disagreed about anything after all! Thank you for taking time to explain. :)

[msss98]

Depends on you relationship to the person, don't go around harrasing people, this question is giving strong incel vibes

[Taylor22424]

You can't rationalize why it gives "strong incel vibes". Be honest with yourself and everyone around you.

Lying is a bad behavior for women.

[Gospeedracer]

@msss98 I'm getting strong entitled Feminist vibes from your answer. Mostly only weak simps will tolerate women's bad behavior.

[MisterWack]

1st No as long as it is reasonable & down to Earth.

2nd If you do it in a misogynistic / sexist manner then it is.

[HawkPerception]

No. I wouldn't call it misogynistic unless you hate all women and assume they're all the same.

Calling out some women's behaviour is sometimes a much needed reality check for them. Nowadays there are tons of women in the west that need that reality check until it sinks in.

[Anonymous]

No it’s not. Men need to start calling women out. Hold them accountable for things. Society doesn’t do that that’s why a lot of women act the way they do. Don’t be surprised if they call you controlling too for calling them out.

[johnknoxxx]

Bad behavior is bad behavior. When one assigns gender? Then maybe you're being misogynistic. For example, if my girlfriend hits the curb while driving my car. I'm quite upset, and I call my father and say..."you're not going to believe what this woman just did to my car!" Then I am being misogynistic. What I should have said was "do you believe what Rachel did while driving my car!"

[Billlewis]

I firmly believe that a woman should be able to do virtually anything she wants, as long as it doesn't physically injure anyone else. To me, there's no such thing as bad behavior by a woman.

[bolverk]

No it is not misogynistic when you call out their bad behaviour.
If a woman turns around and calls you misogynistic when you call out their bad behaviour, then you know that you are right, and they are more than likely feminist to boot!

[PBandJ_Nerd]

It isn't. Unless you call out behavior in a misogynistic way.

[slatyb]

What do you mean by "call out women's bad behavior?" In what situation?

[Taylor22424]

If she is a hoe and lies about it along with her body count.

[slatyb]

A hoe? I have never seen a woman used to till a garden. If you don't approve of someone's sexual choices, just don't date them. How hard is this? Let me guess -- you can't get a date and are looking for something to blame besides yourself.

[Gospeedracer]

@slatyb It would be hard to make a decision on whether or not to date a woman base on her body count if she lied about it.

[slatyb]

What's yours? Is it ok if hers is the same? Anyway, you can ask. The correct answer to that question is "On second thought, I don't were a good match"

[Taylor22424]

@slatyb

Your little guessing is wrong...

Keyword (s) for you "intellectual dishonesty".

Since you supposedly don't know what a hoe is.

[Dargil]

Is it Misandrist to call out a man's bad behavior?

[Taylor22424]

We live in a crazy world.

[Still-alive]

its not. in fact you should establish boundaries when you can and if she willingly violates them call her out for it and if it keeps happening then dump her.

[lisafkit79]

Be it man man, women or whatever else it's never rude to call out bad behaviour

[JustinTheGreat]

If it’s genuinely bad behavior than no. But we’re really gonna need context for this lol

[John_Cobretti]

Who's the woman who voted yes? Jeez, I feel sorry for the men in her life

[beefcakebradybatson]

No, if it isn't done to shame women into adhering to "time-honoured" female roles and expectations.

[LiamJHayden]

I think not doing so is, as it treats women like children.

[OddBeMe]

Only if you're using opinions of other women to do it

[Ladsin2]

Misogyny is a weird spin on it. What's the relationship between the man and the woman?

[ManInChains]

According to feminists it is 🤷🏻‍♂️

[4ngelic]

um no... why would it be

[anon1903]

Give me some context, honey

[Taylor22424]

Girls being a hoe and lying about body count.

[Still-alive]

^ yup that is misogynistic slut shaming a woman.

[anon1903]

Depends.

Would you judge her if she was honest?
And if you heard the same number from a man's mouth, would you judge him too?

Coz if you're non judgmental towards sexes or you hold the same standards for both genders, I don't see how you're called a misogynist.

[anon1903]

@Still-alive his wording is off

[Crazzyyworld]

Gold digging leads

[Dat-Alpha-Lion]

Shitty people are still shitty people.

[Unap0logetic_]

It’s definitely not.

[Dongie]

Nah.

[noohair]

Hell no.