Guys, what is an acceptable body count for girls at ages 14, 18, 22, and 26?

[Kelley1]

In America, data collected from 2015 to 2019 by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has found that the median number of sexual partners for men was 4.3 and 6.3 for women. https://www.verywellmind.com/should-you-care-about-your-partner-s-body-count-7488693

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At first, I was surprised to learn that the median body count for men is 70% of the median body count for women. The mean (average) body counts are equal for men and women.

However, that makes sense because while men will have sex with almost any woman, women choose the top 20% of men. Moreover, since women are the gatekeepers of sex, men can only have sex if the women are willing. Therefore, men in the lower 80%, especially the lower, half have few opportunities.

[BoobMan]

That median relationship totally makes sense. If you think about it historically, almost all women had kids at some point, but a significant number of men never did. It's not a perfect analogy to body count (obviously) but a similar dynamic is at play. And yeah--the means have to be the same by definition.

[Kelley1]

Throughout human history, 40% of men have reproduced compared to 80% of women.
www.linkedin.com/.../patrick-bet-david-3731553_men-live-a-much-harder-life-than-women-activity-7048757545833771008-TID5

[BoobMan]

Exactly. Historically, war was a MUCH bigger thing worldwide that resulted primarily in the deaths of the soldiers (rather than mostly civilian death as today) and those tended to be young guys of reproduce-able age. So you had a pretty severe "culling" of the male population before reproduction. The advent of monogamous marriage probably reduced this effect, in the last several centuries, but the dissolution of marriage as an institution probably takes us back to something more like what was seen throughout human history. Minus the war effect for most of the world.

[Kelley1]

Of course, the last few centuries or even the 10,000 years is just a flash in the pan compared to the 3 million years of human existence during the Stone Age. There were no large cities so there were probably no soldiers. Most people lived in tribes of 20 to several hundred people. Likely there were raiding parties during which all the men and older boys would fight to protect the women and children. If the raiding party was successful many and perhaps most men would be killed. The younger women and maybe the babies would be captured and assimilated into the tribe of the raiding party. That is one possibility. I guess no one knows.

[BoobMan]

Exactly--even in hunter gatherer days, you wouldn't expect most men to procreate. People didn't live super long back then and there were PLENTY of things trying to actively kill you between predators and rival human groups. Young men would be on the front line to defend against both and many would end up being killed off. Those who performed well and managed to survive would go on to father the next generation. And of course, there would also have been polygamous groups throughout much of pre-civilization humanity, which is similar to many other primates.

[BoobMan]

Thanks @Kelley1

[shortster]

Same as guys at those ages: 0, 1, 1, and 2.

[Kelley1]

Thank you for your reply.

[shortster]

You're welcome

[lightbulb27]

I don't like this social categorization of body county.

It should be zero to low. I'd much rather think in terms of loves and relationships and what the person learned rather than notches on a piece of wood.

If this is how the woman thinks, then I don't need her to answer at all.

Realize all of this question (and others) comes from a corrupt society that has so screwed relationships that we are having serious social problems, finding mates, raising kids, suicide, etc.. Learn to turn off the junk and do a 180 from society going the wrong direction.

[HawkPerception]

This is just ballparking, because there is no black and white when it comes to this issue. The less guys a girl has been with the better, but people make mistakes and it's fine to get into relationships that don't workout and lose your virginity. Virginity isn't an issue. As long as the girl was with her partners with intention of the relationship potentially leading to marriage, then I'd say I'm okay with it.

That being said, I don't think a 14 year old should have had sex at all. An 18 year old, I might be okay with them being with 1 or 2 guys at most (assuming they started dating at 16). A 22 year old I'd hope for no more than 5. And a 26 year old, I'd hope for no more than 7.

I feel like once you learn your mistakes in past relationships and figure out what you really like and want in a partner, you should have more successful relationships in the future, so technically the rate of partners should be going down as you get older.

I'd be heavily suspicious of the intentions of those with more than what I mentioned and assume that they wouldn't last in a relationship.

Again those numbers are rough, but as a guy that's been in only what I'd consider 3 relationships by age 30, I do not want a girl that has been with tons more partners than myself.

Don't get me wrong. I believe in sexual experience compatibility as well. People who have slept around are better off with others that slept around.

[molonski2]

I'm not really sure how to answer this , as its impossible to say really.. other than , I think 14 should be zero.

I think my count is wayyyyyyy too high ( honesty ) and everytime I think " it will never go up any higher " something happens to reverse that , I had a couple of highly promiscuous eras , but I was always super selective , and I was married for 7 years , never adding to it then , and also in some long term relationships.

That's why I think this question is difficult , because what if she has a 5 year relationship from 18 - 23 years say? How do you put a number on it?

[Kelley1]

Easy! A five year relationship is one person, is 1.

[molonski2]

Yes @Kelley1 exactly want I meant , it lowers the number
just as my 7 year marriage did.. I just went crazy for the next 7 years after.

[elaphe]

It is important because I think, to an extent, it counts as part of a person's character and world view. Also, in a very practical sense, it matters because of the very real possibility of STIs, including AIDS. I can't imagine a 14-year-old having sex. No one that age is mature enough to deal with the potential consequences of sexual intercourse. Most kids (teens) can't imagine what it would be like to raise a child, have an abortion, live with a chronic sexually transmitted disease, etc. Even "curable" diseases like Chlamydia and gonorrhea can cause sterility. Then there is the emotional baggage that can come with sex. And despite the idea of "friends with benefits," that rarely works.

[Surely]

Seems like a lot of guys want to marry a virgin. Since that probably doesn’t happen in most cases. I would be more concerned about the type of guys my date or future partner had sex with. Meaning drug addicted, pushers and abusers. Not the numbers. Unless of course. I was the last guy in town to have sex with her! Including the preacher. As for the numbers. Less would be better and as for the 14 yo. Better wait a while until they know what that thing between their legs is actually for.

[Kaneki05]

Whatever they want. Longs if they consented.
Which may come into question if speaking of 14.
And the idea of women having a higher count means anything is tribal and animalistic we are constantly striving away from that which is a good thing.
And trust me you wouldn't want to be a woman in caveman days or in general anything in the past because when men appreciate such values it leads to many violations of women's rights we have come to create.

[Kaneki05]

And sadly it's hard to break away from it hence why the east is still very bad about this. These ideals don't lead to good outcomes it's easy to see.

[Kelley1]

Women have always had it better than men. During the Stone Age when one tribe attacked another, not only did men have to protect women and die at a far greater rate but while 80% of women reproduced, only 40% of men reproduced. In modern times, men have gained with respect to women but even in modern times the results favor women.
www.unz.com/.../

[Kaneki05]

I think anyone would rather die in war than been forced without consent to do that. There's a reason why Handsmaid Tale is more horrific than 300.
I would rather be a spartan sent out to die than one of those women for sure.

[GlenQuagmire]

For me I like a very high count! I have actually been looking for a woman that wants a cuckolded man but can't find any in England but I've found a few in the US. For people that don't know a cuckolded boyfriend is someone that remains loyal and committed to his woman but his woman is free to enjoy the sex life of a single girl. Anyway, I've met a few ladies in some queen of spades groups that love the idea of having a loyal and loving boyfriend and being able to go out and have fun, but the US is so far away 😭

[jamesgoldman]

14 I'll say zero
18 probably a couple
22 half a dozen
26 like ten

[Kelley1]

Thank you for answering the question.

[Dongie]

I don't judge a person on this. But as is expected when a woman offers this information, as a couple have over the past few months I respond like this.

One said hers was 200. It seemed she was confessing. So we talked about it. She was ashamed. I said don't worry about it since she no longer lives this way.

The next lady, at 50 said hers was 2. I told her she must be saintly and very sheltered by her mom. She was. The first is 42.

[slatyb]

"... for men was 4.3 and 6.3 for women." At what age? If we include men and women of all ages the numbers will be equal. That's simple math -- when a woman has sex with a man, a man has sex with a woman.

[BetaBucks]

Median vs mean

[Kelley1]

@slatyb If the top 50 percent of men fucked all the women and the lower 50% of men did not fuck the mean (average) would be the same for both men and women. However, In that case, if the median for women was six the median for men would be zero.

[dragoblack]

Preferably, no one should have a body count untill they are 18. After 18, do what you want

[Kelley1]

Perhaps but as body counts increase, the ability to pair bond in women decreases which increases the divorce rate.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

"Body counts" 🙄
Guns proliferation doesn't mean you need guns in every aspect of life. You're not at war, and if you are, then good luck loving anyone but the coroner.

[Aakash_Hangargi]

She means sexual partners at those ages how many partners are acceptable.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

@Aakash_Hangargi I know that, yep, I'm only addressing symbolical meanings here

[QuietRunner]

I'll say:

0-5-50-75

Of course she is welcome to have less

[Kelley1]

Those are high numbers but from what I can observe on campus, I am sure they are not common numbers but they may not be rare.

[ManInChains]

No man wants a woman who has been run through and suddenly decide to settle down

[Billlewis]

Any number that is substantially higher than the guy she's dating.

[morganherrel]

As long as she's healthy without STIs, it generally doesn't matter. But if she's fat or unattractive, then a high body count is extremely gross...

[LiamJHayden]

14 was always too young for me even when I was that age.

I have never asked any women her count nor do I care.

[Kelley1]

That is like saying your arrest record is not the business of corporations and the military.

[Gauoda_]

@Kelley1 At age of 18, My oldest sister has got fucked from more than 5-6 Guys 🛍️ + 1 time raped too

[clampfan101]

I personally believe sex belongs in marriage.

[Jmmmfi4]

DOES IT EVEN MATTER? EVERYONE LIES ANYWAYS.

[Kelley1]

Not everyone lies.

[Jmmmfi4]

YES EVERY ONE LIES.

[msc545]

I don't know nor do I care. Stupid question.

[Kelley1]

That is a foolish opinion for a relationship. It is like saying when the military asks about a potential cadet's arrest record they are asking a stupid question.

[Iron_Man]

Zero but if worse comes to worse one

[Ladsin2]

1 if she's married.

[power_wolf]

zero or 1 at a young age

[DrPepper12]

Acceptable number? Any where between 0 and ♾️!

[AviatorTom]

0, 0, 1, 3

[MrGSpotHer]

At 14 I'd hope 0 gee

[Kelley1]

Per CDC's Youth Risk Survey, 15.0 percent of girls in the 9th grade have had sexual intercourse.

[MrGSpotHer]

Sadly 😞

[Gentilegoyim189]

0. None.

[Kelley1]

That makes my 1 too high. But I intend it to remain there until after I'm engaged. However, guys can be persistent so that may make my getting engaged a bit more difficult

[EnjoytheDay777]

Zero or infinity. I couldn't care less about BC

[jahaims]

Zero