Why is it better to lie to women vs telling them uncomfortable truths?

[Vegasrunner]

[HighValue]

The majority of women don't mentally mature past the age of 14 until after they are 40 +. They often can't handle the truth.

Try telling them how unattractive many of them are without makeup, or that they look fat when they are 50 + pounds overweight, or that it is unfair and greedy to not contribute when in a relationship, or that being a stay at home spouse/parent is MUCH easier and takes less than half the time as a full time job does, or tell them how physically weak they are compared to men, or that men (White men) created/invented 91% of all things made by people, Asian men created/invented 8%, and ALL other groups combined, including women, created/invented less than 1%. MOST of them can't handle the truth at all.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

It's not. Not usually anyway. It kinda depends on if you respect her or not

[Vegasrunner]

@Telekinetic-Potato Thats a good point. If you respect them you will probably tell them comforting lies.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

I think a relationship is a million times better with honesty. I don't want to lie to people I love. Even if she asks me if she looks good in something I have non hurtful ways to communicate it specifically because I never lie to her.

[Vegasrunner]

@Telekinetic-Potato The fact you have to take into consideration her feelings b4 answering proves my point. If you could be honest with her you would just tell her regardless of her feelings.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Just because you're being mindful of your delivery doesn't mean you're being dishonest. If anything, saying "I'm gonna be blunt" and just blurting things out in an unthoughtful, ungrateful way is effectively the same as lying because you're not effectively communicating

[Vegasrunner]

@Telekinetic-Potato That doesn't make sense. If a woman as you how she looks and you think she looks fat, telling her she looks fat would be being honest. If you need to massage the truth or ommit telling her she looks fat than you are effectively being dishonest because you're not telling her how you actually view her.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

OK, well maybe I don't think she looks fat and she's wearing something that is unflattering to her body.

I'll tell her I don't like the sleeves or whatever it is that's not working.

That's blunt and straightforward.

[Anonymous]

I'm going to need a little more context. Sometimes a little white lie is great from time to time. But you can tell the truth and be mindful about someone's feelings.
You don't have to say "you're a big fat pig". You can also say "I'm sorry to say this, I've noticed that you have gained a little weight, is everything going alright with you?". You don't have to ignore it or say "you've never looked more beautiful"...
The way you worded the question makes me feel like this is the kind of issue you mean. But I could be wrong..

[Vegasrunner]

@Anonymous Excellent response but no. I mean it literally, I probably should have added why is it better for men to lie vs tell the truth to women, regardless most of society chooses to tell women comforting lies vs uncomfortable truths. I personally believe I know why but it's always good to get a broad perspective.

[Opinion Owner]

What kind of comforting lies do we get told?

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner Lol, I would have to write a book to list all of them.

[Opinion Owner]

So tell me at least one.. I'm curious

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner No TY I will pass. My premise is that it is better to lie to woman than telling them uncomfortable truths, so there's no benifit to me of sharing one example with you. All your going to do is claim that
1. Not all women
2. Guys do it too
3. Get emotional

[Opinion Owner]

Then what was the point of asking the question if you're not going to give context?
You can tell me, I promise I won't tell anyone 😜
And I'm also a lesbian so I can provide you a different perspective maybe.
I know how to treat my lady right.

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion owner To get various perspectives. Context is something only you felt like you needed which means this question may be too complex for you. Lesbians don't understand what it's like to deal with women as a man anyway.

[Opinion Owner]

You can lie about various things right? And in some cases it's better. That's why I'm asking you to be more clear. You can lie about things she can't change about herself, like her nose shape, eye shape whatever, which can be the nice thing to do.
You can lie about her cooking skills which I wouldn't recommend.
Or you can mean like women are worth nothing and should be rapes everyday because of animal instincts. But you lie that you actually have respect for them.
The lie can be small or very unhinged 😂 And I've heard it all.
But I'm also interested in why you think my relationship is different? I'm still dealing with women and I expect them to act similar towards me as they do to their male exes...

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion owner I think I see your confusion. No you asked what's the point of asking the questions. It is because I have a small business that educates young men typically basketball players about female nature. I asked these questions to show them the various responses, which validates my credibility to them. Your response is an example of one of the tactics I tell them. When women don't like information, they will bombard you with questions, it's actually a tactic used in sales "he who ask the questions controlls the conversation" You don't need "more context" you don't like the question so putting the questions back on the author gives you a feeling of control, and allows you to deflect from the original question.
Your second question is a good one, you are dealing with women as a woman not a man which means the bar for performance is different. One of the most glaring examples is dating. Women are ok, splitting checks, or alternating paying bills with their female partners however this would not be acceptable as a man. The other huge part is options, men have far less options than women especially regular men, therefore most men dating a women are forced to do whatever necessary to keep them because of the initial investment they made and the future investment they will have to make in replacing them. Lesbians are on an equal playing field and can theoretically replace their partners which equal amounts of investments. TBH this isn't something as a woman you ever going to understand.

[Opinion Owner]

Thank you for your answer, you confirmed my suspicions. Good luck with your small business.

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion owner TY so much this is simply another validation as to why women prefer to be lied to.

[Opinion Owner]

Might be better for Temu Andrew Tates to just not talk to women at all... Just fuck your buddies. I will fuck the ladies for you, don't worry about them. They love me.

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner I think I understand your confusion, my argument is that lying to them makes it easier to have sex with them. Why would I stop banging them if Im getting what I want?

[Anonymous]

I don't think it's good to lie, but some stuff was tmi. I'm kinda grateful for that though because it helps me navigate the next move.
In my situation, he overshared his feelings about another woman and I stopped talking to him the next day because I didn't want to be in between their relationship. He can only reach out to me if he has a problem or a quick check up, but I'm not going anywhere near him because he's my ex

[Opinion Owner]

I wonder if he would have still told me if he knew telling me that would lead to him getting ghosted

[Vegasrunner]

@anonymous TY for sharing this. This is a great example why it's better to tell women comforting lies.

[Opinion Owner]

That's still not good 😐 😕

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion owner It's good for the man. Women only want honesty to disqualify men.

[Opinion Owner]

So you're fine with fake love as long as you have her body?

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion owner Love is what females need to have sex. Men can easily have sex with a woman that don't even like.

[Kelley1]

We train men to lie because we reward lies and punish the truth. If a guy I want to marry lies and says, "You are perfect wife material, the kind of girl I want to marry," likely I will reward his lie with sex. However, if he tells the truth and say, "You are okay when I'm horny buy you are not sexy enough and pretty enough to marry," I will punish his truth by denying sex.

[Vegasrunner]

@Kelley1 Thats a great way to explain it

[Bitter_Sweet94]

It’s not better, it’s just easier in the moment.

Some people lie because they want to avoid conflict or hurting someone’s feelings, but that comfort is temporary.

Uncomfortable truths sting at first, yet they build real trust.

If you want a healthy relationship, honesty beats convenience every time.

[Vegasrunner]

@Bitter_Sweet94 Women are lied to in perpetuity not simply in the moment. Any competent person understands this. My question is why is it better to lie to them?

[Bitter_Sweet94]

It’s not “better” to lie to women or to anyone.

People lie because it’s easier in the short term, not because it’s good.

Avoiding conflict might feel convenient, but it destroys trust in the long run.

If someone thinks lying is the smarter option, that’s not competence that’s fear.

Honesty is harder, but it’s the only thing that actually holds a relationship together.

[desidoll]

Many women don’t handle it well. They take things personally quite easily. I lost 3 friendships just for telling them the truth. Ended up I was right about what happened, yet none of them came to me to reconcile. They just walked away.

[Wuai201]

Maybe I'm one of those women
One of my ex friends said I say unnecessary stuff sometimes and she said she was trying to distance herself from me
I thought I was telling her my opinion and truth but I guess she saw it a different way. So after the call, I stopped talking to her. I don't want to censor myself in hopes that I say something "unnecessary" in her mind

[RandomGirl42]

'Cuz some women will kill u when they find out the truth anyway?

[Vegasrunner]

@RandomGirl42 Lol, they are emotionally unstable creatures.

[RavVid]

"You look beautiful" has got us through the first million years.

Don't knock the social lubrication oil of little white lies.

[Vegasrunner]

@RavVid Read the question again. It ask why is it better.

[RavVid]

Implicit. Because they buy it and if they are happy they will be nicer. As I said it has got through a million years with'em.

[Vegasrunner]

@RavVid Thats a better answer, Im not making the argument that we shouldn't lie to them.

[RavVid]

It is more my own excusing of my own lies.

[Vegasrunner]

@RavVid I dont think you need to excuse them it's whats necessary.

[beenherebefore]

I don’t think is best to lie I believe you should always be honest is just that some people cannot handle the truth.

[Vegasrunner]

@beenherebefore Most women can't that is why the world operates the way it does.

[Shy_Steve]

Because they are a lot more emotional than us Guys which obviously makes it harder for us Guys.

[MJVillarama]

Honesty’s usually better , lies can backfire and hurt trust. You can be truthful while being kind and respectful

[Vegasrunner]

@MJVillarama If you have to adjust your words to compensate for someone else's feelings how can you be truthful?

[AngryCarl2]

Women don't value the truth, they prefer feelings. Their feelings.

[melssvdv]

We are just batshit crazy XD, we just are not as honest as men because we want to feel good.

[Anonymous]

Because they have impossible expectations. They think any guy with even the slightest flaw is completely worthless. Better for them to think you're perfect than to know that little lie from the beginning of your relationship.

[Anonymous]

You’re screwed either way if you lie or tell the truth.

[Vegasrunner]

@anonymous Why would you be screwed if you lie?

[CallmeTheKnight]

It’s better to tell women the truth. Lying only sets a very bad outcome to surface one day.

[Anonymous]

Its not. We respect a man that tells the truth espicially when he puts us in our place.

[Anonymous]

It’s not better to lie… tell the truth

[Vegasrunner]

@Anonymous Nah the world lies to women constantly, I'm not going to be the one to change that.

[hafinjun]

Its not better , just easier