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Guys, what do you think of non-binary females? (Page 2)
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Your gender isn't a choice. Your gender is decided by how your body is meant to function in order to reproduce. it has nothing to do with how you want to view yourself.
Zero professionals on the subject have said that. The definition of gender is; "either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female." That's from the Oxford dictionary
@DemiboyCrisis 'professionals' say all kinds of bullshit. Professional wrestlers cannot wrestle. I studied humanities and it was filled with many theories contradicted by other 'professionals' in the medical field. Doctors.
Germain Greer is a professional and she said what this guy said so there's one, there are many others.
I was referring to biologists that conduct actual research and tests on a biological, hormonal and with relation to the cells in a person. Fun fact, you could be genetically male/female, chromosomally male/female, hormonally male/female/non-binary with cells that may or may not hear the male/female/non-binary call. All of these can be done in any combination, so a quick mathmatic equation means that there are about 24 combinations there
@DemiboyCrisis Not really. I have seen studies from Oxford that contradict what you are saying. There is enormous correlation between secondary sexual characteristics and primary characteristics. Sorry. But you are mincing words.
I think non binary as a whole is a less believable 'gender'. can't be 2 people at once no matter what 2 things you feel to you are without it objectively seemin like split personality disorder
I think they can make their own decisions and I dont think who they spend time with is my business. If I get along with someone then I get along with someone.
My rule is that she must have a vagina and no testicles. She needs to urinate from her vagina and not her enlarged clitoris / penis. When she passes that test, then I will 'digitise' her as female.
Do you have any reference to show how it's possible to urinate from the vagina? Oh wait, sorry, you're probably from the US, right? I'm aware the education system doesn't cover so much over there...
"Non-binary" so this is the crap that they teach kids in schools now.
I think its nonsens your either male or female this is a modern time bs or rather Babylon
The entire concept of "non-binary female" is a contradiction in terms. But that is characteristic of the people who believe in that crap.
It is not. By "female" I'm referring to chromosomes, and by "non-binary" I'm referring to their gender identity, meaning sense of self. (Gender identity is usually based on certain behaviors such as femininity, masculinity, androgyny, or gender roles and gender expression).
It would be a contradiction if I had wrote "non-binary women". Because "non-binary" and "woman" are two different gender identities.
Oh, good Lord.
Just because you can’t relate to or identify with the stereotypes/general traits of your assigned gender doesn’t mean you have no gender or you’re the wrong gender. It just makes you an individual. God, people are so moronic sometimes it’s actually unbelievable.
what other people choose to identify doesn't bother me.
if it makes them happy with themselves I'm happy for them.
Dissociative Identity disorder caused by frequent sexual abuse in the entertainment industry (and/or Monarch mind control)
Non binary = mental disorder / idiotic buzz word.. Your own question is contradictory, you can either be non binary, or female, not both.
They're still female as far as I'm concerned. This whole non-binary thing seems to serve only to confuse people...
They're still people, I don't see why they're any different. I'd treat them just as I would treat anyone else.
"Non-binary" is not a real thing. Those that legitimately believe they are "born in the wrong body" or anything along those lines are mentally ill and need intense therapy, likely in-patient.
There are a bunch of scientific studies on the matter. I'm a demiboy, gender isn't sex my dude
@DemiboyCrisis If you have a penis, you're a boy, whether you like it or not.
Are you familiar with the term "medical quackery"?
Seek psychological help, you need it.
Jesus you guys are all so single minded. It's literally the racial movements all over again with you guys, none of you are going to actually listen -.-
@DemiboyCrisis Racism is based off prejudice, what you're talking about goes against biological fact and crosses the line of sanity.
I've seen where your mindset leads, men being sent to women's prisons, men being let into women's bathrooms and locker rooms, adults claiming to be children, people getting married to inanimate objects...
There is a CSI New York episode from a decade or more ago that dealt with people who wanted to amputate healthy limbs for no other reason than they wanted to be an amputee. It's called body integrity identity disorder.
Here is a question for you: would you kill someone who has cotard delusion?
The fuck kind of question is that, I wouldn't kill anybody. And biology is much more complicated than that, there are a multitude of factors in that. It's an umbrella term you don't even understand. You can have a combination of many factors, these being;
Genetically male/female
Chromosomally male/female
Hormonally male/female/non-binary (when you produce an equal amount of both hormones)
And finally your cells may or may not hear the call of those hormones.
Using some math, that's a total of 24 different combination variations of "biological" gender. Seriously, biology is more complicated that X and X chromosomes
*X and Y
Non-binary people don't believe that they were born in the wrong body. Trans people ususally feel like this and it's because of physical dysphoria. Physical dysphoria is the reason they need to visit a gender therapist. Some non-binary people may experience some symptoms of physical dysphoria. Most of them though, do not desire a physical transition. It is more common for non-binary people to experience social dysphoria. Social dysphoria is the sense of dysphoria specifically linked to social situations. It is typically caused by social assumptions relating to gender, such as pronoun use, assumption of social roles or body language.
@DemiboyCrisis People who have cotard delusion believe they are dead, so if we're going to twist reality into people actually being whatever they "feel" they are, why not kill someone who feels they are dead?
@gotc147 Murder is a far different thing, that is an actual mental illness. Gender disphoria is no longer classified as an illness anyway. Science is constantly evolving, a couple of years ago one of the basic requirements for testing autism was is they couldn't make eye contact, so do yoyrvresearch instead of spitting shit and having no acceptable sources or anything to back it up. Then again, this platform is for opinions
@DemiboyCrisis It's not murder, it's treatment, or even a cure.
See? I can manipulate words too.
How was I manipulating words? In fact, you can't manipulate words, that's not how language works. You can manipulate how people view them I suppose but this is just sending me down a whole road of existential crisis, so let's focus on my first question xD
@DemiboyCrisis If simply discussing an adult topic like adults is putting you in crisis, then you have serious mental issues that need to be addressed.
Oh I was just joking about the crisis thing, but actually I'm well checked out in my mental health thank you for being concerned. I was just joking about how deep into thought I got on the subject of how manipulating words works
They don't give a fuck about anything... They are confident and strong
If they are non binary then they can be who they want. Ruby rose is hot thoooo... 💙💙💙💙
They’ve devolved themselves into a species that’s non-human and should be treated as such 🤦🏻♂️
They'll grow out of it... or they'll grow up and become crazy cat ladies.
I think they're crazy. It's one of those insignificant details that wouldn't matter even if it was real. But embracing it as if it is important is being crazy.
Miley Cyrus is a woman lol. I don't care what y'all talking about.
She was in her early hoe phase in her 20s and probably with a chick now because of she almost married to a dude.
Hard pass.
The whole concept of non-binary makes no sense.
They can do what they want. I wouldn't want to date them though, personally
"Non-binary females"... FEMALES!!! lmao. Even you think its bs you just identified them as female😂😂
They’re clearly women
I agree so why go along with the bullshit? If they were serious they would chop off their tits and sew up their vagina, you know actually be what they claim to be
There really must be some type of mental issue
I don't think about them really. If they're not hurting anyone I don't care what they wanna identify as. Have at it.
I don't understand the concept and I think it's kind of irrelevant to me. People who bring that up are mainly looking for attention to me.
what is genderfluid?
@justcurious2019 People who one day identify as a male and, another day, identify as female. Apparently, since they also think there are more than 2 genders, they can identify as other things than male and female. I just think it's looking for attention because, even if you actually worked this way internally, I don't think it's something you would bring up or put forward.
Thanks @YHL6965 now i understand i identify as a owl
Boring and bland. I don't like anything that's "trendy" because she's not being herself, and I can't love someone who isn't their own.
Just people trying to get attention for themselves. Too obsessed with creating a label to identify with. Way too image conscious.
They all look like girls to me, and I'm attracted to all of them. I would gladly marry any of them.
I think there is no need for these mentally ill people in this world.
Everyone look at me. Look at me. I need everyone's attention
If that's what they want to go by, they are certainly welcome to do that... definitely doesn't make them any less sexy!!!
I've met a few i either thought she's hot or she's ugly. What they call themselves is up to them but dont get mad if i guess wrong.
I think that whenever there's one nearby, I need to start running in the opposite direction, makes life easier.
AlI want from a bitch is access to the pussy. If her pussy functions as designed, I don't care how "genderfluid" she claims to be.
Weird as fuck. I only like women so if you're an it i dont want you fuck off. Is it ok to punch an it in the face?
There are 2 genders everything else is mental illness except the slannesh gender that's just fucking heresy
Personally don't really get it or care to but whatever works for others I guess
I mean I'm genderfliud myself. Today I'm an attack helicopter.
Excuse me? You did not just refer to a non-binary INDIVIDUAL as a female, did you?
I think they don't exist, because humans are male or female.
I don't really have an opinion, one way or the other.
I see what you did there :D
@optimized180 hehehe I was wondering if someone would get it 😂
What's wrong with just sticking to the basics and use the term bisexual?
Or tomboy?
I think it's really hip and trendy, that's what I think.
I don’t care if there are only girl schools let them have it. If there are only boys school that cool too.
I think its the inevitable legacy of the hippy generation of the 60's and 70's.
Dont mind me I'm just here for comments proceed lol
I brought some popcorn want some?🍿🍿
You know it. Let's see who dumb enough to fall into this trap lol
I’m not a doctor nor scientist so I couldn’t care less. As long as they funny and got a great ass.
Um non-binary means having no gender so your title is really strange "Guys, what do you think of non gendered gendered people"
Non-binary doesn’t exist. It’s a term invented by mentally ill people who want to feel special and different from everyone else. It’s attention-seeking. The concept is based on not feeling like your gender, which you can only do by basing it off stereotypes/general traits of your gender. However, that’s just called being an individual. Just because you’re different from the general picture society says your gender should be doesn’t mean you have no gender or that you were born the wrong gender. That’s just stupid. Instead, you should get the help you need for that, because it is most certainly mental illness.
@Gavyn couldn't have said it better man.
And yet, everyone here instantly understood what she meant by "non binary female". 2/3rds of that phrase are made up, so of course it sounds weird
@jaybee281 I second that 👏🏻
This whole reply section is disgraceful. If you are reading this and you are struggling with your gender orientation, you do you. You don't have a mental defect, just try and stay strong during tough times
If you are reading this and struggling with your gender orientation, you clearly can't 'do you', there is help out there for you.
@JimboGB Right? Like, I can’t see how she sees herself admitting they’re struggling, but then telling them that there’s nothing wrong and to just put up with it and not listen to people trying to convince them to get help for something seriously wrong mentally. Like, you’re basically hurting them that way.
Non-binary means having a gender that isn't "man'' or "woman". It doesn't mean that you have no gender. However, "agender'' is one of the non-binary identities.
What gender is there other than man or woman? Society has yet to define them, so they can’t exist. Just because you don’t fit within general societal stereotypes of your gender doesn’t mean that’s not your gender like, fucking come on, that’s just ridiculous. It’s called being a goddamned individual. No 2 people are alike, so of COURSE you won’t fit an ‘ideal’ model that’s made with tunnel-visioned traits. That’s just dumb. It’s like saying my gender is an attack helicopter because I tend to be really aggressive and destructive and I own a lot of guns, therefore my gender must be attack helicopter. Wow, who knew?
Anyone who identifies with it is attention seeking and in need of mental help. Anyone who believes in it basically coddles mentally ‘unstable’ people who need help, and their dumb selves need to wake up, grow up, and understand that it’s not a thing and making it a thing just to please people who need serious help isn’t okay, nor is it even acceptable.
@Gavyn Another gender is "androgyne". And I don't mean "androgynous" as a form of expression ( clothing, hair). I mean people who are psychologically androgynous. These people feel as mix of both genders (not to be confused with "bigender" which means having two gender identities). Androgynes have one gender identity and they don't see themselves as "woman" or "man".
Guess what? That’s called being a fucking individual like I explained. God, this world is fucked. I can just tell.
Androgyne, andras + gyne which means man + woman in Greek.
So basically everyone is androgynous (no man is completely masculine and no woman is completely feminine) but some are superficial to the point that they think they ain't a woman nor a man🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️like you literally said "psychologically androgynous" proves how delusional people are becoming just for the sake of being those modern outside the box thinkers due to their own insecurities this is fucked up
The more you try to explain it, the more absurd it sounds. Gender is determined before birth, and that's it. What you're referring to is a matter of subjective self-identification, which exists only in the mind of the individual. Identity is complicated because the mind itself is complex. But gender is pre-determined, its decided for you by biology.
@jaybee281 Actually, it's not that simple. Non-binary people tend to not relate to almost anyone. Being masculine, feminine or androgynous does not have to do with your gender identity. So, a male who represents himself androgynous doesn't mean he is an androgyne. He is still a man with an androgynous gender expression. On the other hand, non-binary people see themselves in a very specific way and imagine thesmselves as they want to be, regardless of being masculine, feminine or androgynous. To be more specific, non-binary people feel like they don't belong in the gender groups "men/boys" and "women/girls". They feel like they belong in a different gender group. So, everyday life for them can be very challenging, especially when other people expect them to behave, dress or think in a specific way. It's hard for them to find acceptance or people who understand them.
I'm trying to be nice as much as i can by the way.. First and foremost all behaviors and all kinds of thinking already have a name.. If you're acting manly then you're acting manly if you're acting in a quirky way then you're acting in a quirky way if you're acting crazy then you're acting crazy ain't no need for high iq to know that any kind of behavior has a name and ain't exclusive to a male or a female that's what makes people different that's what makes you like someone and dislike someone it's irrelevant to get this related to gender identity in the first place that's either who you are as a man or who you are as a woman it's that simple and by the way you said "find acceptance" well that's the main reason all of these terms are actually existing in the first place it ain't the fact that they are non binary or whatever names they call them it's because they're seeking acceptance and attention due to their own insecurities primarily related to how they were raised how they are perceived and their relationships with the opposite sex that's why less and less people are the simple straight man or the simple straight woman every normal human being was just because they are desperate and seeking attention badly and not getting it creates even more insecurities that leads to all this gender talk.. Remember I don't hate those people even though if more people end up like that talk about the fall of humanity due to stupidity and psychological problems and yes they do have psychological problems not as illness but problems and the worst part is that people are actually "letting them be themselves" they ain't being themselves they're being too delusional.. and making other people feel like it's normal to feel like that is where i have a problem it's just bad.. just bad towards the society you live in
@jaybee281 Ok, let's say that a girl starts relating to guys only, and when she watches movies, porn or whatever she imagines herself as the man. What would you think about this girl?
I'd say she's a girl with a flexible imagination.
@Gavyn This mismatch between sex and gender identity can lead to distressing and uncomfortable feelings that are called gender dysphoria. It has a medical definition, gender dysphoria is a recognized medical condition, for which treatment is appropriate and given. The fact the majority of children diagnosed with gender dysphoria cease to desire to be the other sex by puberty, with most growing up to identify as gay or lesbian proves the treatment works if the correct help is given. This is why clouding a young confused persons judgment is so terrible, your causing lifelong pain and misery. All in the name of feeling virtuous it seems to me. Then you take into account the suicide rate of such individuals, these people are clearly suffering, and encouraging them to 'be strong in tough times' is simply an empty platitude.
This is really a metaphysical argument and progressives might argue that we live in an idealistic world but there are truths independent of our individual mind. Boys and girls need different mental and emotional stimulation, that doesn' change no matter what you think or feel. This is exactly why we have cultural norms that respect the differences. For example, men and women process emotion through the brain differently. Women generally experience higher levels of emotional stimulation than men.
Research was done on the different reactions between men and women when shown negative images, women had a much higher emotional reaction than the men. When presented with emotionally neutral imagery, however, the men and women responded similarly. Women had a greater ability to remember the positive images due to their enhanced emotional chemistry. This would suggest that gender-dependent differences in emotional processing and memory are due to different mechanisms. Basically we are differently weird and our chemistry means our cultural norms will always be different.
People have different levels of femininity or masculinity, it doesn't change your gender. It simply affects your mentality, your still a girl even if you think you're a boy. That is the medical condition that needs realigning.
I like a woman who knows she's a woman and enjoys being a woman.
Biology is biology. If you have a penis, you’re a boy, if you have a vagina, you’re a girl! Nothing more, nothing less.
I never thought of cara delevingne like that, I think she’s pretty hot
It's called being a tomboy get over yourselves snowflakes is what I feel.
You are wrong. The term "tomboy" refers to gender expression. Non-binary is a gender identity. Non-binary people may or may not experience gender dysphoria.
Gender dysphoria is also assimilated to transgenders.
I think tom boy can be a gender identity.
Basically when you grow up you identify as a parent and the other you consider your first love interest.
That's Oedipus, if you don't believe in that it's anothet topic.
Anw a queer girl that identifies as a Tom boy? Basically wishes she was a man because while growing up she identified to her father. So that makes it a gender identity, how you see yourself in society.
by the way tom boy don't have to be queer tho, it was just an example.
“non-binary” means someone who has mental issues and believes in made up bullshit.
To be perfectly honest it would take some time to fully understand it and get used to it
I think that regardless of our gender identity, we are all people, so I have no problem with gender.
Mental illness is not attractive.
Isn't non-binary female an oxymoron?
Our modern society is getting morally sicker and sicker. COME QUICKLY JESUS
It is hard to take anyone famous seriously.
Turns me off and I get red flags from them.
Hot. If they’re straight and wanna date me then sure
I’d love it