if that was the we would all have a person to ourselves. In a world full of people.
At the end of the day women want the attention and men give it to them. It’s a cycle.
Some men allow women to have power over them then claim that it's the woman's fault. Personally I like a woman to take charge in several aspects of life but most especially in the bedroom. Could she control me with sex? I suppose that depends on your point of view. We did play a game where she "let" me have my choice of sexual fantasies (within certain reasonable limits) if I finished my chores. The chores were not unreasonable and mostly consisted of things I'd have done anyways. Then she rewarded me afterwards. But most of my fantasies involved her making me her sex slave for the night. So in other words the game was I had to obediently serve her in order to earn the privilege of obediently serving her in the bedroom. Did she actually control me? Only in the sense that I let her. I suppose I could have just as easily told her that I wouldn't go down on her unless she fixed me dinner but that would have been a mistake because I adored going down on her and I'm a way better cook than her so I did most of the cooking. The fact is I absolutely loved being "controlled" by her especially with the bedroom games that followed and she was never mean about it unless being mean was part of the fantasy script in the bedroom. What really gave her control was the fact that she earned twice as much money as I did. I was a machinist earning $45k a year and she worked in I. T. earning $90. I paid for half of the living expenses but that left me with a minimal amount of spending money after expenses and she had a ton of left over month for spending on frivolous things. If I wanted an expensive toy she was the one that was going to pay for it. So I made up for it by being the best boyfriend I could be and yes that meant indulging her sexual whims but truth be told I feel I got the better end of the bargain all the way around, especially in the bedroom. With her looks she could have had any millionaire or college stud she wanted. She chose me, at least for a few years. And yes I could have walked away any time I wanted and eventually did when her demands in the bedroom went beyond what I was interested in.
So she’s a dominatrix but not really a dominatrix. I love your story it’s kind a beautiful
The technical term is Domina or Domme. that would be a dominant woman. A dominatrix is someone you pay to act like Domme and pretend for specified period of time that you are their slave.
Oh cool 😈
Women have more power in many aspects nowadays. Court, social media attention, the dating world and in bed. Nowadays where society is pushing their gender equality agendas, in the corporate world, they're prioritizing females over men just because there's not enough females in at a higher level, regardless of how they compare to others in terms of credentials.
The fact of the matter is, there is a difference in pay between men and women at higher levels of corporate jobs BECAUSE men are generally more confident, assertive and dominant, which plays a factor in their comfort level asking for raises, getting promotions and their ability to lead in those higher positions. I'm not saying that all women are not dominant, confident and assertive. I'm just saying there are more men than men that have those traits. And now, regardless of that, companies are just throwing women job with credentials that may be lesser than mens just so they can say they believe in gender equality.
There are so many more benefits to being a woman nowadays than a man. Men are emasculated and keep their primal desires hidden when it comes to the bedroom, because one word from a girl about rape and that's a sentence in jail that will ruin your life. It's funny because most girls always ask guys to be aggressive and dominant in bed and yet treat us differently in person. It's a very confusing concept.
more men than females that have those traits***
Women don’t want/need attention from men, it’s the other way around lmao. Literally nobody jokes about a girl or calls her a “virgin” as an insult.
Actually people do that LOL
Men carry a thirst for sex and sexual access and women hold the keys. In that sense, women do have an innate power.
Men carry the essence of power position. A virtuous position women try to manage and subsequently are asked to recipicate herself to him. Those women who claim total independent are those ones who disproportionately wish to hold a mirage of conditions against a man usually sexually hoping to control him through an appitite of sex. Always about control this , control that... etc. Those seeking control are never in control.
When it comes to access to sex, a woman definitely hold the power. At the same time, men hold the power to relationships. And we all know women carry a thirst for a relationship or marriage.
Women are the gatekeepers to sex, men are the gatekeerpers to relationships.
You sound very intimidated by women... maybe u should put yourself in check before u assume. Wow u really wish this was true and it just maybe your truth , if so then that's your business. But don't imply that every man has to lower his wisdom for someone as yourself still learning. What your learning now , I'm trying to forget.
@Djaay Oh how cute, ad hominems. Typical strategy committed by those who don't have the debating skills to come up with a valid argument. You're just proving to be pathetic yourself.
"Intimidated by women". Nice projection here mate. The only person who seems to be intimidated here is yourself and thus feel to resort to logical fallacies. I simply understand that women can get sex far easier than men, but a man's committment is something that is dedicated to his own decision. Hence why so many women get pumped and dumped and bitter that a man didn't commit to them as they hoped.
You talk like a guy from America ! This is what wrong with you young men today , u fuckin dont listen to wisdom from your elders. You comprehesional skills suck to .. or you would have had some clearity to my mentioned. . That's alright tho , u do u. I'd I'm so wrong then why are u so determined to know differently from me.
@Djaay "You don't listen to wisdom from your elders". You've not even given anything and start complaining about people not taking word. Also I'm Dutch. Goes to show you can't function without assumptions. Actually you're the one who dedicated to manipulation tactics and saying I'm wrong, yet have not elaborated anything. Like I said, try harder, mister.
I'm a Fa'a Matai (chief) in Apia Samoa and Hawaii. I listen to everyone in my family and community. I've never been single in my entire life. 10 chdren I have from my first wife now deseased. I'm currently married to my second wife who is a tuaese (first lady) 23 years old. And you want to tell me about women. Your from white culture , not Polynesian culture (warrior nation ) . I will share on piece of advise to you... Man up and be one... shit most of you over there dance like our women.
@Djaay Ah yes, Mr warrior is is telling us how awsome and badass he is over the internet. And that of islands which are dominated by whites (So much for being a warrior). And to a person who is an Officer in the Dutch Air Force that is. How funny. Anyway, thanks for sharing your life story on G@G which nobody cares or asked about. And good job on self-refuting since you've admitted to be from a different culture than the very one that is currently under discussion. Other cultures don't deal with what we are dealing with here in the west. at least not in the same dynamics. So you're pretty much telling someone they are wrong while you're arguing from a completely different environment is where you've made the fundamental mistake.
Alright u f... n Male Ufa. You stupid in the west men are responsible for your women to take care because you pussy whipped men over there can't take care. so. end have stepped up cause u assholes can't be men and take care of them without raping , treating them like shit and abusing every way known to civilization. Now that your women are stepping up and trying to take care , you pussy guys are bowing down to them submisibly at there feet. Lmao... The difference between your Western feminism and our Polyniesian feminism is us men and women over here are making each otber stronger and are very tightly woven together unlike the west completely torn separate from each other.
@Djaay Funny thing is, I agree with much of what you said. Even though I'm laughing at you for truly believing I'm the person you've made up in your head. My first statement in reply to MzAsh was from a general point of view here in the west, not a personal one. But it seems that point went right over your head. Quite funny a self-proclaimed Chief with "warrior" blood got emotional over the internet. And at the age of 60 too.. Jesus...
well said @TruthBringer!
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I wouldn't worry about @Djaay opinion so much. if you look at his profile it says he 60 years old and married. so that shouldn't be surprising that he's just another self righteous baby boomer who is too blinded by gynocentrism
@Djaay you have to put a @ infront of my screen name if you really want me to respond to you, unless you are afraid to continue on getting your skirt lifted like @TruthBringer has been doing to you from the start.
till then is funny how you say i'm "thirsty and pathetic yet you're the 60 year old scumbag here rushing to a random woman on the internet's rescue to proof your so called masculinity. whatever your damn culture is it doesn't sound like it teaches anything. till then if you're not American then why the fuck your profile says you're from United States?
@Djaay and I dont even know where to start with your portrait mr "desperate and pathetic." seriously dude if there is one way you can make a total loser out of yourself is taking a picture with sunglasses while you're indoor trying to strike a post like a bimbo online who is desperately looking for validation and approval.
@Djaay I am honestly curious. What about what @TruthBringer said you don't agree with? Women can have sex easier than men. I don't think anyone disagrees with that. So I assume you don't agree when he says men are the ones who chose to be in a relationship or not. Why is that?
@ThisIsMyOpinion if you read everything from beginning to end you will see that he did not have the balls (and possibly the brain) to answer @TruthBringer. he left him hanging and when straight to insults and lecturing instead. so I highly doubt he's gonna make a special option out of you
@CasaNorba I know he didn't have him a straight answer. That's what I am hoping he will give me.
@CasaNorba Damn bro you've ripped him a new one. Must be embarassing for the redneck to get ripped by people at least half his age. @thisismyopinion Yeah as you can see, he still didn't even bother to refute anything I said, just more damage control
Truthbringer and ThisMyOpinion ; You two claim some kinda victory. I told ya I don't particularly want to teach you anything. And about the sunglasses , look at'em , don't see that I'm outside in the reflection. You two guys are retarded. My first opinion says it right , don't agree then fine.. I really don't care to refute to those who claim they know everything. You both claim you ripped me a new one... hows that?
@Djaay Victory? I wasn't even part of the conversation and was curious to what your point was. Still for some reason you resort to insult me. At your age I guess it can't be helped that you a bit senile. If anything because you actually believe that you know more about who relationships works in modern world than us. Three guys who can actually see how different things are now than what they were in your times, a thousand years ago.
@ThisIsMyOpinion Absolutely well said!
Yea... so well put ! You two are just so smart. And one of you still thinks I was claberating an agreement with the opinion owner. Shows you never really understood the oppositional mention. If you read it and comprehend what I first mentioned you'll both relise the true proclamation I referee to. But instead both of you two oppose what's right only to say that men are not men anymore and shood bow to the women.
@Djaay We never mentioned anything about what you've said. My whole discussion with you was about you claiming I am wrong. And in response, I told you to elaborate which you refused and instead resorted to shallow ad hominems. My first response was to MzAsh, not to you. But what's funny is that I've mentioned to agree with certain things you've said, but that clearly flew over your head since you've been so emotional. Which is ironic for someone who claims to be more masculine than others. Actions speak louder than words and your actions contradict you. Now go be on your way.
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Because, at least here in the US because I haven't been anywhere else yet, the law and views of society, contrary to popular belief, tends to be biased in favor of women right now. Divorce, rape, jobs, etc., are all preconceived that the woman is the victim or at least not the aggressor to be begin with. Not to belittle the women, or anyone, that are actual victims and getting a bad shake, but in this day and age you can't even compliment a woman without being accused of something if you're a dude. As for sex, it is a proven fact that sex can be use as form of psychological programming due to the chemicals, hormones, and such involved in sex. When used in certain ways, sex can parallel certain effects of torture, indoctrination, and/or addiction. Sex is a two way street, it takes two to tango, so you have to know how all involved think and react in order to use it effectively for power. Ask the psychologists, or there students, and they will tell you that everything is about sex (thanks Freud) except sex, sex is about power. Look up the story of Adam and Lilith. This is nothing new. Although I do believe Freud was on to something, his theory is more incomplete than incorrect in my opinion.
It's young women that hold more power. More power to earn, and destroy lives. Women earn more
Men do not have the same opportunities and programs available. The route we have if abused, raped, or sexually harassed by a male or female is to suck it up buttercup. I have been through all three and know oh the joys of actually reporting and how not only is nothing done, but you are a pariah. Also how quickly do you think a male only study group or scholarship would be shut down rather than funded? There are plenty of female only safe spaces and scholarships. Google female only space and male only space. One is recognized as a right, the other ridiculed.
It's a belief because with every bit of power and influence that women hold over men, rather than saying, hey, let's tackle this fucked up shit together, the approach is, yes, time for vengeance on that toxic masculinity, over and over again.
Maybe I'm just extremely unlucky as far as those situations go, maybe recent history is wrong, and I would like to believe it is few women rather than many promoting and pushing that ideology. Every year supporting that suspension of disbelief is harder and harder though.
Because feminist extremism is pushing the narrative. Girls/women today feel like they can act like a bitch (pardon my language) and have her piece of the cake to. Meaning more women today feel like they can act rude, use their body and act like they are the boss. I have seen it happen many, many, many times. If there are cases relating to rape or stalking, police will be on the side of women/girls. And rightfully so, it does happen for females I’m not saying it doesn’t. But there are women who have lied about it to win money by a famous male athlete or a male musician or male actor. Heck, even on twitter there are girls who pose as “goddesses” even as young as 17 to kick men in the balls and get paid money by those guys. Why is twitter allowing a fetish by old men and young girls. Women are far from perfect. It’s like these girls have no values and no morals and have crappy parents who didn’t teach her right from wrong. But I do believe feminism will collapse and girls/women who act this way or behave this way will get slapped in the face with fear and reality, that’s life. I want to see women succeed, but I want women to be hard workers, gracious, nice, but also assertive. That’s just my take, to the poster you may disagree with me but what I said does happen you can’t deny that, this is 2021 not 1821.
It was a boomer adage of saying to just let the woman get her way in everything in the relationship because that will make you not fight/her sleep with you. I don't care about boomer wisdom. That's not really how relationships are supposed to work. At the end of the day, you should stop trying to control each other. Don't try to be manipulative with sex or attention, either guy or girl. Be with someone you get along with and communicate. Instead of being manipulative just tell the other person what you would like for them to do, no strings or implications.
I totally agree
It's not about sex, although that is one of the tools women tend to use in a relationship. It's more about the fact that all a woman has to do is point at some random guy and say "rape" and that's it, his life is over and will never be the same again. The #MeToo and #BelieveWomen movements have taken serious issues that deserve attention and respect, and perverted them into a free use "nuke a guys life" button. When a woman can literally end a man's life with a single word, and the man can't do anything in his defense because the world automatically believes he's guilty. I don't know what else to call that but power. I understand that not all women are like that, most wouldn't make such an accusation baselessly. But some will. I don't think you're the type of woman who would abuse that power, but you have to acknowledge and respect the power that the world has given you with that one word.
OK that is just plain wrong honestly morally. That’s not even power that’s something totally different. I’m talking in the sense of a relationship standpoint you can’t keep no one through sex. I cannot manipulate you to do anything that you don’t want to do.
Yes and no. You can use sex to manipulate your male significant other, up to a point. The longer the relationship lasts, the more dedicated the man will be to makeing it work. So that kind of bargain, "I do this for her now, and get sex later." That sounds like a reasonable exchange to some guys. So the longer a relationship lasts, the easier it is for a woman to use her body ad s bargaining chip. Of course us guys know that's what you're doing, so that does limit the power of that bargain. So of course sex has certain measure power in a relationship, you can't deny it doesn't. But that power has a certain fragility to it as well; use it to often, or try to push him to far, and all you'll accomplish is driving him away.
OK I give it to you sex is a tool but it is not the power.
This is my opinion and I have nothing against women. We men think as women can get anything they want by either with sex in a relationship.
In the workplace by saying the metoo movement and equality. I don’t disagree with equality and equal opportunity and rights for women and men to be the same but equality and equal opportunity should be for everyone in the world not different doesn’t matter the country and cultural background.
In the workplace it should be based on the skills and desire to learn on the job for everyone and not by screaming the women equality. I don’t know how people judge in terms of when people apply for jobs within different industries but I went for an entry level administration job in marketing and I didn’t get selected they didn’t tell me why not when they said no looking for people with experience. Later I found out from a person I studied with they got a job and other people as well. I was the only one they didn’t take and majority of the people they took was women to show they’re equal opportunity company. So I believe women have the power and men don’t have any in this world as we like to think. Also the saying goes there’s always a woman behind a man who supports him but men are women’s puppets. So women are pulling their strings.
I applied for many jobs in marketing but never got a single response from anyone. Same happens in when looking for relationships as well. Women go to the opposite direction from me and wants hot guys and who they can control instead they say who will support us and take care of us and stuff. They want bad boys not nice guys.
Well TBH women do have a lot of power.. Look at onlyfans for example.. The top earners are women.. That girl "bhad barbie" barely even started an onlyfans and they already gave her over a million dollars.. Women can go online and not have any discernable skills but simply be cute, and they get all types of Simps on them.. Dating apps are usually just to prop up women's ego.. Many of them don't actually care to date most of the profiles they see... The truth is women have more control over guys than ever before at least in America, because many guys lack self control, and discipline (including me) in certain areas and are lonely.. When you a re lonely and lack a purpose and are free to indulge in all types of things, the result is you give these women unneeded power and attention..
See this is why I am not trying to get on a dating app. There’s some women that have it like that and other women that don’t even know how to even use it. And some that just don’t have it
Yeah, I agree some women don't have that power.. And those are usually the women who will gravitate to disliking men because they don't have that power over men, or at least appreciation.. But even an "average" women with a not so bad body, and is very seductive and feminine will have guys flocking to her. But of course..
I think it's a woman's presence. But there is something to being sexy and confident.
But there is also, the idea of what is done in a marriage too and that is another form of female control
"You cannot and repeat cannot control anybody with sex." Oh bullshit! I have seen it. What I am not saying is that it was all the woman's fault, but what I am saying is she is still controlling them with sex, they just happen to be willing participants and letting themselves get controlled.
I have seen people go completely out of whack because of sex. It's a powerful motivator and it can be used to manipulated. As a matter of fact, I would venture to guess that most people are strongly motivated by sex and occasionally that motivation gets abused.
And she is doing it because the men allow it. I will laugh at the first man who says "he couldn't control himself because he had to have pussy". That is no man. Chose pussy over his pride.
@ThisIsMyOpinion I thought I made that clear. Players are clearly not manipulated by sex from a single woman. Women do manipulate with sex and men fall for it almost every time.
I think you need to be comfortable being alone. If you cannot stand being alone, you are ripe for manipulation of all kinds, but sex is the most powerful weapon a woman possess, let us not be fools about that.
We get it is a tool for manipulation. Personally I can’t or don’t want to control anyone.
You probably can, but I appreciate that you don't want to. That's a good thing.
I am being very honest I can’t. I’m too unknowing about a lot of things
"Women do manipulate with sex and men fall for it almost every time." Again, I don't consider anyone who falls for this a man.
I totally agree about the part whe you say people need to be confortable alone. 100%.
Do you know why I don't respect men who fall for that.
1. I am not a moron who loses IQ at the sight of a pair of tits.
2. Women like sex too! They don't want it? Fine? Nothing for you either. Congrats on shooting yourself in the foot. "Oh but she can go get it somewhere else." and so can I! She is not the only women around. And even if I don't I will prefer to wank myself than to bow to pussy.
@TruthBringer tell me I am wrong here!
@ThisIsMyOpinion You are absolutely right. I also don't consider a man who gets manipulated by pussy as a real man. A real man isn't weak to that extend. No pussy is made out of gold to get worshipped. And yeah any man who gets sex easily will not bow down to pussy. At the same time @floppy2112 is right aswel. He is saying "man" as in gender, not necessarily referring to real men who aren't easily persuaded by pussy.
In the end, women often use sex as a tool to get more of a man (like commitment). This manipulation is often both conscious and subconscious. And often, they end up failing at their own manipulation when they are dealing with a man who doesn't fall for it (which is getting baited with sex). Hence why so many of them get pumped and dumped.
You two are more aligned in perspective than you think. Which is a good thing in this case.
Sexual power?
Women have the power to attract and make a man desire them.
Men have the power of not caring.
Many can have sex and not care if he ever sees her again and can leave after getting sex.
Since many women desire commirment and relationships this can leave them frustrated too.
Actually true
I think it's because we see it with our own eyes. Women have a huge amount of influence, and it's shocking to me that they don't realize/acknowledge it. Take the women's soccer pay gap situation as a perfect example. Those women were offered the same pay structure as the men's team a few years ago and they shot it down because having benefits (health, vision insurance, maternity leave, etc.) and a salaried position on the team provided more, guaranteed income than the men get. The one single way that men get more money is through one time performance bonuses (which are only possible because the men aren't getting salaries and benefits); but it's not more money overall. The women are just upset because they want bigger win bonuses. Now they are waving the arms and making all this noise about pay discrimination because they know that upset women can pull on the public's heartstrings, even though their claim lacks basis in fact.
Only when they weaponize sex. It should never be any kind of bargaining tool - good or bad, to influence behavior, with the reward or deprivation of sex.
Just shut that shit down really early on. It doesn't work.
Hell, most young women don't want the guy to pay for a date cuz SHE things this obligates her for sex. Simply ridiculous.
You can have sex with anybody so I wouldn’t even bother you if we don’t decide to have sex with you
Is this English? Cuz it makes zero sense. WTF are you talking about?
You know it’s a Typo, seriously. why would it bother a guy if we decide not to have sex with them. You have sex with anybody else. Are you in a relationship with them?
"Why would it bother a guy..." Okay, it would bother a guy if he was attracted and he wanted to express his desire physically. If you're not receptive then it's a rejection. Rejection bothers people. Just not sure what you're getting at here.
"You have sex with anybody else". That is not a question.
"Are you in a relationship with them?" Well, are you or aren't you? What are you getting at? Are you asking if you are in a relationship if you have sex with them? If so, then yes, I'd say you are - some kind of relationship, no?
I made it a statement you can sex with anyone. If you are not in a relationship with them then it justified
I tell you what. I am not gonna give a girl too much attention if she doesn't fuck me. Especially if she is my girlfriend. What I mean is. I am a very nice guy and have been all my life. So girls, and people too but we are talking about girls so, want to just friend zone me and use me because they enjoy what I am saying and treat me like shit. I am so sick of that I DO NOT give a fuck anymore. I will tell you to get the F away from me. If I do not find you mentally stimulating... we are not going to be "friends". Good looking girls have a problem with this. Because they are used to using guys like that to stimulate them mentally, and not give back any mental stimulation, but keep the guy being their friend because they like the way they look. I still to the day have good looking girls that cannot figure out why I am not their friend.
Why do men think that women have so much power? Because some women can destroy a man's life with a lie of rape or sexual assault with literally NO evidence needed. And in Amber Heard's case, even when the woman literally admits guilt on tape, in her own voice, she can still get away with it. Regarding your details... Men are hardwired to have sex. It's literally in our DNA to reproduce. Women take advantage of and use this power for their own means. In some rare instances, men take advantage of women for this goal of sex, as well.
I mean they do in sexual ways for sure. Otherwise there wouldn't be women who can sell there bath water for tons of money cough cough bella. Or only fans or strip clubs. And women can for sure control men with sex there is a thing called pussywhipped for a reason.
There is obviously guys who won't indulge in such things but for every guy that don't there will be a guy who does. For every guy that cannot be pusswhipped one can be. Whether the women has the confidence to play off a man's lust is another question. But if they can it for sure does work.
Women and Men have a lot of advantages just in different ways.
It really does have any thing to do with that,, that might be the words someone might use , but to be honest has to do with respect it might not seem like it but down deep that's what it is knowledge loyalty and respect and if you do look in this matter because have that power that is given to her probably for all the women that I know are that are my friends that's the power that I look at them having to because they must believe in that and become that right now because who knows where this world is headed and I want women to gain strength I don't want them to lose anything and I think women should demanded it
Women do have the power in a relationship. Let a man and woman get into a dispute. Woman goes to whoever will listen and gains their sympathy. BAM! Man is automatically the monster. All a woman has to do is say some magic words and she can destroy a man's life or reputation. Yes, a woman can be labelled a slut, but even that title is somehow a badge of honor in today's society. That's about all a man can really do to a woman. Anything else and the law will reign fire and brimstone on him. Once kids get involved, women gain even more power because they can make a man's life hell by taking his kids away.
Women DO have a lot of power! They have the power to say NO. But I think a lot of women don't realize the power that they have.
But part of the problem is that the bad guys aren't afraid of the word No. And maybe the good guys are extra cautious just because they don't want to be misidentified as one of the bad ones.
Yeah that’s very confusing.
@Justneedtokno Yeah; I know. Sorry.
But there is some guys out there that can manipulate a woman’s emotions to where she don’t even wanna relationship she just wanna spend time with you
@Justneedtokno Manipulation in any form is never good.
Yes manipulation is never good
Manipulation only happens to weak people. You have to be strong enough to know what you want and go for it. It’s your fault if you set your goals too high and end up alone into your 50s or too low and end up beaten or raped.
I am not sure its power necessarily, But when it comes to relationship dynamics, Women choose who they will have sex with, men choose who they will marry..
When it comes to legal stuff, women certainly have the power, Even a simple accusation of rape or sexual assault can land a man in prison without trial.. Women win child custody cases 90% of the time leaving the father as a visitor in his own children's life. Even if the mother is an abusive drug addict she is more likely to get custody of the kids.
Ask the MRAs that got screwed royally in the divorce and custody courts and you'll learn right quick. "You cannot and repeat cannot control anybody with sex." Really? Why don't you ask Cleopatra about that one? She managed to bring the greatest Empire that ever existed to it's knees in a civil war that wiped the Ptolemies off the map forever and brought down one of Rome's greatest heroes of the era, one Mark Antony.
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