if we're talking the ones who call themselves that, its generally dudes who were probably the bullied shy nerd in school, who are either super ackward socially and introverted or/and overweight/ugly, who got really obsessed with the fact that they can't get girls (or more accurately their ideal types often), so they end up watching a lot of youtube stuff that's related to that, which leads them to the manosphere, redpill stuff, which starts to make them not like women. they start finding discords, forums, etc of likeminded people, where they can talk shit about women and commiserate. they get more and more extreme and start using the label incel. real incels aren't just dudes who can't get laid, its litteral psychopaths who can't get laid. i looked at their main forum the other day and omg wtf. from what i saw just by scrolling down a bit and looking at a few threads, most of them are evil. like they're often neo nazis (a lot of them are very racist, i saw so many extreme race posts on there, an anti jew stuff, and saying hitler and the holocaust is based), are pro fucking (and raping obv) 11-14 yo girls, pro rape, pro murdering women, pro making girls sex slaves, a lot of them love elliot roger and adore and praise people who murder or rape girls, etc they're insane people
if we're talking people who just can't get laid, it probably either one or multiple of these: being shy/socially ackward, having very high standards in women when you dont have the looks and stuff to match, being too fat or having noticeably bad hygiene/bad grooming (like badd, a lot of dudes like that do) or just plain ugly (and not doing anything about it if you have easy control over it like your weight and trying to go beyond your league), being insecure and scared of women, not actually trying at all and expecting women to come to you, weird behavior/bad personality
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I know that a lot of these guys are creepy and unhinged, but I want to help give incels a better perception. Just because a guy isn't getting any, doesn't mean he has to be an asshole, or that he's going to become violent. I never get any pussy, and I'm happier and sweeter than I've ever been.
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Anonymous(18-24)+1 yBecause women find them gross and unattractive maybe or they perceive that.
I think once they find their confidence and get a girl they won't be incels anymore.
Incels are men who are involuntary celibate.
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@irishgirl02 "I think once they find their confidence" - YES, spot on, but that begs the questions: what to do about that, and how to go about doing it? The people who throw the term around aren't realy interested in solving the problem. Indeed, they are just out to exacerbate it.
That's like saying "Men who are starving are gross and unattractive. I'm certainly not going to give them any food".
Many of us just don't have game. We're bad at socializing. It comes naturally to some but not to all.
In his book 'Shyness & Love' by Dr. Brian Gilmartin, he talks about how women who are shy are just as likely to be partnered as non-shy women. Shy men, on the other hand, are far less likely to be partnered than non-shy men. The reason: Men are expected to do the approaching and asking out. He proposes that the one who is less shy should do it. Not based on gender.
I believe he wrote that book in the latter 1970's. Here we are in 2023 and nothing has changed.
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Asker+1 yIncels tend to be far right and demonize women who don’t want kids or marriage from what I noticed
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You are taking indoctrination from slanted Leftist sources with their own slanted Marxist agendas. Of the two examples you cite, Elliot Rodger and Alek Minassian, the first was definitely a product of a Left Wing Hollywood Culture of entiitlement and the one political website on Elliot Rodger's newsfeed was - get this - "The Young Turks". Nor did Mr. Minassian did not express anything remotely Conservative (in Canadian political terms).
Now did they become hostile and alienated? Yes, but that was an effect, not a cause.
322 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. I refer this article below to you, it will give you some back ground, but the term was originally coined as "INVCEL" around1993 – 1997 by a queer Canadian female student known as Alana, to explore her involuntary celibacy, the term rose to prominence in the 2010s as it became closer associated with an online subculture of people who define themselves as unable to get a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one, this applies to both female and male.
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+1 yIncel means "involuntarily celibate", so you tell me why they are incels?
The females version of this is femcel.
Now, are you genuinely reffering to someone who's involuntarily celibate, or are you referring to a man who has elected to remain single for whatever reason? The media likes to call anyone who disagrees with them, or has an issue with being painted as the bad guy in all things simply because they are male, " incels". So its important to define what is an "incel" and a guy who just isn't interested in either nonsense or relationship.10 Reply- 2.4K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic.
+1 yFrom what I have observed especially from online, incels have a very entitled mentality.
They seriously believe a woman should accept or bow down to them without them making any effort in being at least attractive personality wise so that's why they don't get any women at all not to mention a lot of them have very high standards for women physically wise while most of them aren't handsome men to begin with.22 Reply
Asker+1 yBest answer
Asker+1 yYour right. They do have an entitlement mentality and they are usually rude. I don't know why everyone is going off on me
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+1 yWhat makes you think those unfortunate men had a choice in the matter?
Moreover, if you *really* want to help solve the problem, you would volunteer to teach one social skills and the like and show some compassion and all that. I'm not saying you have to fall in love with one or anything like that, but your attitude simply reinforces the problem.
31 Reply 1.1K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Because republicans can't get votes based on their policies so created the culture wars to get people to vote for repiblicans because they are mad at something. The incel narrative, and indeed everything in the manosphere, is largely controlled by people trying to generate constant anger towards women, in hopes that it gets them to vote republican. And it seems to work a lot better than one would think.
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Asker+1 yFinally someone who knows what an incel is
Asker+1 yThey are far right and demonize women if they don’t want kids or marriage
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Being an incel has nothing to do with politics. Good grief you are one mentally ill moron
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@Kingofkings1992 I didn't say being an incel has anything to do with politics. I'm saying the far right is dumping billions of dollars into right wing media to >make< it about politics. And that is the only reason "incel" is even a word anyone knows.
Asker+1 yMany incels tend to be far right actually
Asker+1 yMany incels are also assholes too
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@Brittanyroseee no, there’s no correlation. It has nothing to do with political leaning, and everything to do with attitude/ personality.
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@Kingofkings1992 no, it has everything to do with media funding. The manosphere is propped up entirely by far right billionaires and they expect a return on that investment. The instant it stops paying off, they stop propping it up, and it collapses.
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Yup at the end of the day its about power. Incels are ripe for republican voter-ship
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@normalice it’s okay. I’ll just attribute this to your brain damage 🙂
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@Kingofkings1992 Most incels believe in the right wing.
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@Willlovewinintheend and most unsuccessful people believe in the left-wing, so what?
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That's a good dupe! If anything, Republican candidates have acted like "Chads", arch-nemeses of the InCels, with Donald Trump being Exhibit A. You Leftists started Cultural Revolutions, Maoist style, and you pushed on people culturally, even to the point of trying to bend their children's genders, until they finally pushed back.
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@normalice Wow, a bunch of amateur bloggers and commentators with no major media funding whatsoever, and your feverish delusions of their financial backing are hilarious.
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@Curmudgeon the far right fake news said the left did that, but that was just to make you mad and get you to push in the opposite direction.
Or put another way, if someone proved to you that the entire culture war would go away if you stopped participating in it, would you? No. You've been brainwashed into basing your identity on it. You are addicted to that rage. - +1 y
@Kingofkings1992 Tell me about it i cannot believe how deluded she is, she has been brainwashed by the left wing media.
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@normalice "Or put another way, if someone proved to you that the entire culture war would go away if you stopped participating in it, would you?" - Wow, you really can't admit what is going on, can you? I CAN'T choose to stop participating in it, not when my workplace issues edicts that I must recognize what some other person proclaims their gender to be in the face of all reality. I can't opt out of that. And this nonsense reduces my economy and standard of living and cuts into my productivity. YOU and your ilk did that. I would have been happy to be left alone, but YOU and your ilk would not allow it. To say nothing of taxing me for your schemes.
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@Kingofkings1992 i guess you may have been referring to the OP who is also deluded
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@Curmudgeon you can't choose to stop participating because you are addicted to rage and victimhood. I challenge you to turn off the far right fake news for a month and then determine if you still see "edicts" everywhere. But you can't. Because you're an addict..
+1 yIncel is an acronym for involuntary celibacy. It means what it says: being forced to be celibate (sexless) against your will. For such men, paying prostitutes doesn't count. Sex has to comes from wives or girlfriends. Being unattractive to women causes the inceldom, not the other way around.
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+1 yIncel = a person of either gender who wants to have sex, but isn't having any.
So by saying you think all incel men are gross and unttractive, you're actually saying that all single men who aren't currently sexually active, are gross and unattractive.
Its the same as saying you'll only date guys who either have casual sex, or are already taken. Which makes you either a slut, a homewrecker, or both.07 Reply
Asker+1 yIncel men tend to talk trash on women
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No, most incel men don't do that. Usually its the player types that sleep around that trash talk women.
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Also you're trash talking men right now.
Asker+1 yNo i noticed incel men and mysoginist men tend to believe women are better off being housewives and raising children. I have seen incel men say that women after 30 years old are useless so yeah
Asker+1 yPlease look up the true definition
+1 yPeople fail to gain social acceptance, and your response is to declare them socially unacceptable.
Do you also wonder why so many of them lash out, or can you figure out cause and effect to that extent?
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@NamerOfStars They really can't. It is amazing how these people no longer understand cause and effect, and their "solutions" are to double down on the causes, from economics to social relations.
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 ySame reason there’s women incels. Oh wait but when it comes to women who can’t find a relationship it’s cause they choose to not be in one lol the mind of women making up terminology to make theirselves feel better. “Oh girl he was toxic, it’s not your fault. It’s him.” Even though she’s had a million relationships it’s not her lol
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+1 yA lot of those guys have never had a single good relationship/interaction with any woman in their lives. Not their mom. Not their sister. Not their cousin.
Same kind of thing that causes some women to become hardcore feminists.
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@ProbablyClueless That's a great point. If they couldn't get along with their mom, their sister, their teachers or any other women, why would they suddenly have great relationships with women as adults?
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@Billlewis Exactly! And you can't always just expect someone to have the opportunity or awareness to recognize that in themselves and work through their personal traumas.
I have a great deal of sympathy for Incels because the vast majority of them are just these incredibly sad people who get locked into a loop where they can't connect with women. Women make up half the people on the planet. If you can't connect with them, that's a pretty big deal.
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+1 yDo you even understand what the meaning of incel is? It means it is involuntary, which means that they did not choose it. Is it gross and unattractive if a woman cannot make a long term relationship work out? Judging by the look of your picture, you will probably be a crazy cat lady if you aren’t already one.
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Asker+1 yI mean cats are better than kids and people
Either genetics failed them.. or they don't have that dawg in them.. So they can't get women unless maybe work for it.. they basically feel like npcs so they just hate and hate women more.. because you know.. can't live with them can't live without them situation lmaoo..
00 Reply1K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Because some guys have problems get girls interested in them. Telling them to self improve is often not that helpful since even if they improve it doesn't mean they get chosen as a partner.
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@Lionman95 But even more importantly than that, it begs the question: Exactly how?
That said, they should self=improve - for themselves, and for its own sake. If it does happen to lead to a sexual relationship, great, but that is incidental. Even if it doesn't, they are better off doing it, period. So by all means that should be encouraged. - +1 y
I agree they should be encouraged but to the point that they realise that their life can change and get better/more exciting/have a higher status with or without a girlfriend. I should have that having a girlfriend shouldn't be seen as the goal but something that happens because they achieve their goals.
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@Lionman95 Bingo. I guess the InCels also confuse Cause and Effect, just like the people who want to demonize them rather than help them.
889 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. I often see it as a result of bad parenting.
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Asker+1 yGood answer. Many men commenting don’t know the true definition of incel
Asker+1 yIncel is not a good thing
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@Brittanyroseee no shit it’s not a good thing captain obvious. Based on the wording of your question, you clearly don’t even understand what an incel is.
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@Kingofkings1992 She really doesn't. She has her Marxist political agenda to push, and her "solutions" are just doublking down on the causes.
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@LazerBean Or clueless parenting (Elliot Rodger's dad, based upon his TV interviews, being Exhibit A), or in many cases *no* parenting.
But the people out to label and expose the InCels have no solutions to this. In fact, more often than not they were the ones who pushed famiy disintrgration. - +1 y
@Curmudgeon clueless parenting and no parenting both fall under bad parenting. And the majority of incels are not open to solutions even when people try to help them.
+1 yBecause women like you find them gross or unattractive, most people are purposely ignorant of the reasons why incels are incels in the first place.
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Asker+1 yBeing an incel isn’t a good thing actually
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I know what an incel is why
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Asker+1 yYou clearly don’t
Asker+1 yBeing an incel is not a good thing
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I clearly do
Asker+1 yNo you don’t…
Asker+1 yLook at the articles i pasted
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I read those a long time ago as it happens
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@DarkLegacy It's amazing, isn't it? She doubles down on her agenda-driven definition,
she states the obvious as if it is some brilliant revelation on her part,
and she is hell bent on just "poking the bear" of the problem rather than offering constructive solutions.
She is the perfect "virtue signaler", who does nothing to solve problems and indeed revels in making them worse. - +1 y
@Curmudgeon Yep she is, sums up most women her age
7.8K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Bad upbringing or brainwashed by garbage they read on social media or on sites like this one.
10 ReplyI'm sure you can figure it out... I mean you are a man after all. What caused you to wear women's clothing and be antisocial on the internet?
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+1 yYou know what "involuntary" means, yes?
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+1 yIncel is a portmanteau of "involuntary celibate".
20 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. In my case it's about 60% wanting to be one and 40% reality, but unlike many incels, I absolutely love it;)
00 Reply361 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. They don't see their wrongs and keep blaming the other gender, refusing to look at themselves. Not acknowledging your flaws results in no self improvement.
10 Reply4.4K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. They have poor social skills, and blame their lack of dating success on others instead of working on themselves.
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+1 yThose men lack any sense of reality and any goals in life
00 ReplyThey get no bitches and blame women for not choosing them
00 ReplyI agree with you. I think they are probably cynical in nature and that their negativity is the main reason for their prolonged single life.
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Asker+1 yI also noticed they are usually assholes
Asker+1 yAs well
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I honestly just enjoy being teased and frustrated by a beautiful woman, and I think it's so beautiful to spoil her without her feeling pressured to have intercourse with me. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy sexual relationships with women; I'm just very pro female, and I don't think women owe me anything. I know that doesn't fit the definition of an incel, but that's what works for me.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yMen need to be raised differently than women do, reminds me I feel some women who I interacted with in my past life could have prevented me from becoming one
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 ybecause they are narcissists who think they deserve sex or are owed sex.
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+1 yBecause they can't get laid. Which is because they're gross and unattractive.
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+1 yYou already answered your question in the description.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yThey don't choose it. If you have an issue with it, then have sex with them and they won't be incels anymore.
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Best answer, this should be advice to other women like this.
722 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. What is an incel?
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Asker+1 yFar right men with old school logic who usually refrain from sex and demonize women who don’t want children or marriage
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@Brittanyroseee you obviously have no idea what an incel is.
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@DarkLegacy I do now
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Heck, I think you're the kind of woman who causes guys to become incels, which of course isn't your fault, because you're so gorgeous and sexy, and we know we have no chance of having sex with you;). If I lived near you, I'd gladly take you out and spend a ton of money on you, just to have the privilege of kissing your feet afterwards... lol
469 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. its ok they think your gross too
11 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Cuz they can't get any.
00 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Why are some women incels
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+1 ySome women are too.
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