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Recently in one of my classes everyone was asked what’s a dealbreaker for them. the girls all decided that cheating and not being able to communicate were the top two, while the guys voted a woman’s body as the only deal breaker they could come up with.
now I’m asking this question because I’m genuinely interested in knowing why out of all things that they could have chose from they decided to pin point on a woman’s body.
I’d also like to add when they were asked why 2-3 of them decided to make different comments about how me and the other girls look, which I found bit rude because they were just asked to give us more information on why they chose that but instead decided to degrade us.
Why are men my age so rude and judgy?
Anonymous
(18-24) 
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The sexual dynamic is different for men than women. Men are still regarded as the initiators of relationships no matter how strong and independent women believe they are, they aren't jumping on that bandwagon to show themselves as willing and able to take initiative in dating. That means guys are coming at it from the BEFORE SHE'S chosen a guy as their red flags.
Girls, on the other hand, don't consider the BEFORE part in relationships because they are the ones who choose to allow a relationship to begin and only see things from the aftermath of it starting.
Once guys get into a relationship they'd probably have the same responses to what would be the red flags WITHIN a relationship. Their goal is to GET a relationship, girls it's when in a relationship.
Thank you for you insight. I will say as a woman who has approached men myself, it looks like a lot of guys are no longer approaching women or maybe it’s because I’m not considered worth approaching but any how I’m not sure why if there goal is to get a relationship why they feel the need to degrade women? Would you mind providing me insight on that, if you have the chance to? Thank you
I think you've seen the current state of romantic intent among men has turned from taking the lead to becoming ambivalent and avoiding it. It's unlikely to be you as a person that isn't attractive as this is a new phase of human civilisation that's given men's desires a more prominent status.
Men are just pissed off that they've been left behind and dehumanised by society and seen women given all the support and help to make progress in society that's unavailable to them. That women have had choice thrust upon them to either work and be career driven (this is the ONLY option for men seeking to make a life as ANY guy who suggested his goal was to be a home maker [reverse gender roles] would be dismissed as unattractive to women) or women can choose to have a man provide for them in the traditional family sense. Men STILL have to do the same role as they've always had to do and had to watch their female peers be promoted and supported to greater option. This is now being thrown in their faces and they are now expected to progress faster than women (women date up in prosperity, men don't) just to get a chance. So it's almost like men are facing every hurdle while women have been getting free rides.
Well think you for explaining more, I really appreciate it. As much as I am very much about fairness, I will say that the roles used to be reversed that men were able to be promoted faster just as you had mentioned the gender reverse roles. I do want to say that if a man genuinely wants to be a home maker and announces that to the a woman and she bashes him for it, it seems like he’s with the wrong woman.
I personally will support anyone in anything they want to do, as long as they do the same for me.
But on the topic of jobs again (sorry for a bit side tracked) I think it definitely depends on what kind of woman you are that gets you a free ride, for example the job I work at I’m working 6 days a week with 1 day off so a whole month I get 4 days off. The guy that I work with asks to leave an hour early every shift and works 5 days and is part time yet somehow gets paid more than me and does less than me as he’s on his phone half of his shift. So it definitely depends.
Historically men were competing against men only on a more even field, now the added competition of supported and accelerated women, makes getting anywhere more difficult AND those same women won't find men equal or lower in social status of any interest. Basically women have been bumped up social status (they already had it because they can birth children) and now most guys are overtaken by women in status.
The issue with reversed roles is VERY FEW women would "TOLERATE" that kind of thing in a man a dating profile that stated this would last till infinity before any hits from women. Women have NOT had to accept changed roles in men (they STILL have to work and earn more than them) while getting to have access to anything they want. STILL they complain too. Men have had to "level up" without support that women have been given THANKS TO MEN building and sustaining a society that can allow for this.
Anecdotes about individuals don't do anything because I could tell you about a woman who had zero experience in my profession STARTING about 15% higher than a male colleague of hers with 8 years experience. HE could have been her mentor as she started in the job. I could also tell you about a colleague of mine who spent 3 of the 6 years of her job being paid maternity leave and still managed to get the same pay rises and increments as everyone else. Like ACTUALLY working didn't get you any better status. Sure it negatively affects MEN because they don't get (historically) nearly the same parental leave from work as women (EU now has almost standardised parental leave equality but it used to be something like 12 times more parental leave for women as men.
Now he’s a question I will ask regarding the mention of parental leave and I don’t mean any disrespect by asking this, it’s a genuine question it’s not meant to be a trigger question.
If a woman is on parental leave, which has been given because she just gave birth and has to leave and tend to the baby. Why would the man be given the same amount of time? The reason I ask this is because I have a few friends that have had kids and there boyfriends/husbands won’t help take care of the newborn while they are at home. I would understand giving the father an equal leave time if he was actually helping with the newborn while the mother rests and recovers but to the ones who won’t they shouldn’t be given equal time.
Also I’d like to comment on the women won’t find men of equal or lower social status of interest y that you said. Woman tend to be interested in those men, but sometimes those men don’t want those women or they don’t want to be with that women because they are of a higher status. Now it could go both ways, but I’ve realized that obviously men want to be on top and be at a higher level than the women they are with, which is okay. But at some point because women are “leveling up” it’s just society moving and men will just have to find ways to level up themselves. It’s just like when women couldn’t get good jobs years ago, or how they were being underpaid for the work they did. Now it’s been reversed on the men.
The fathers on leave should be on leave while the newborn is just brought home supporting the recovery of both mother and child. WHO decides how much the father SHOULD do is not up to observers but the couple. One can say father has equal right to the child as the mother because he didn't get to choose whether the child was born or not, that's 100% on the mother so she bears that responsibility.
As for women being elevated at the disadvantage to men in employment, yiu can argue women tend to take more sick leave, so earn less, they work fewer hours so should earn less BUT the argument about women being paid less has been refuted because it was found that even though men earned more, they worked more AND got a lower hourly rate than women. WHY is that not ever brought up?
You say women will want to be with men in lower status but that is nowhere like as common as men who dgaf about a woman's status and economic potential, WOMEN expect men to earn and drop them if they don't. There are few women who'd be content with househusbands.
Women always had the ability to get jobs, but never HAD to for recognition or status, men HAD no status until they became economically successful. Men start low and have always needed to work even the shitty jobs. Jystlook st poverty and homelessness. Men are very over represented in those categories compared to women. There's no knights in armour ever coming to luft men out of the gutters. Pretty Woman is always going to be a one way street.
Yeah I wouldn’t consider myself a PRETTY women so no knight in armour is coming to save me either. That being said about men working more, at the job that I work at I’m am very underpaid compared to everyone yet work 6 days a week at 9-10 hours a day. But the guys that work here get paid significantly more than me and leave early everyday.
In most countries if you do the same work as someone else then you should receive the same pay BUT employers get around this by discouraging employees from discussing this and preventing unions having agreements around wage scales. I know in my job I was paid less than others who had less experience or knowledge than I but knew how to "play" the negotiation system.
I’m not sure how to play that system unfortunately, but I do know I can whistleblow. As they don’t give us breaks or lunches, with no vacation time.
That's an abuser in employment. Unions and collective actions could be something to do. Good luck
Looks and youth run really high up in the priorities category of men. Then there's guys with standards that add to the list.
I definitely understand that, but why would they take the time to degrade us when they were just asked a simple question asking to explain?
I’ll never fully understand why guys like that act that way, they didn’t have a reason to make the comments that they did and they even laughed about it and hi-fives each other like it was cool.
Besides being unattractive fat girls have problem conceiving children
Hi so no one said anything about being fat, also not everyone wants kids. A lot of women my age are getting there tubes tied because they don’t want to conceive with the men these days due to their views on women.
Now the comments the boys made were regarding boob sizes and ass’s which saying things like that in a classroom setting is disgusting, and there was no reason to make those comments at all. Also a lot of men are unattractive but yet women will bypass that when dating a guy, on the other hand men will make sure that a women is a looker which is kinda sad because if a girl is ugly it’s not her fault that she was born looking like that, but hey I guess men just need male validation when they date a girl.
Yeah im not reading all that. Fat and wordy? I bet your house smells like cat piss
I don’t have a cat?
Also I’m not fat either? So literally confused on the assuming your doing
You are definitely over 99 lbs. You are fat. Just in denial
I weigh 135 at 5’8, If you consider that fat, that’s a little odd. Sounds like weight wise your looking for a minor
Your BMI is over 20. Literally the definition of obesity. Trust the science
Yeah more like your attracting to minors. My doctor said I’m at a healthy weight that’s not obesity, if I lost more weight it would considered being underweight. But hey, you like what you like which is very underweight girls
I mean are you under 99lbs?
But anyways your definitely trolling, so I bid you a good night
Google BMI. Your doctor is lying to you. You are grossly obese
BMI since I’m apparently being “lied” to.
Plus I weighed myself and I am 130lbs at 5’8
My BMI is 19.8
Underweight is under 18.5 while normal/healthy weight is 18.5-24.9, overweight being 25-29.9 and obesity being 30 and above.
So yeah not fat
Your fat as fuck. Nobody wants to have sex with you.
Awww that hurts soo much, I can’t believe that nobody wants to have sex with me. Anyways you like minors and would probably sa one too. Pedophile
I was molested by my 1st grade female teacher and strangled her to death when I was a teenager. Strangled my uncle to fldeath also when I found out he molested my little sister. I kill pedophiles. Without remorse. Catch me outside on that pussy.
Honestly? Good for you on doing that for your little sister. I respect that, but do I respect your opinion on the shit you’re saying to me? No, because I just turned 18 last week, and referenced an event that took place when I was 17.
I don’t know your situation and you don’t know mine, personally will I tell you about what happened to me at 14? Probably not, but it’s the same as what happened to you and your sister will I go into detail about it no? But the guy that did it to me, spoke about me the way you’re doing now. He’s the same reason I dropped this low in weight. I’ve never been obese in my life yeah I was a tad bit chubby but never fat or obese, I’ve dipped into being heavily underweight before too.
But I’m also not here to down play what happened to you but saying mine was worse, will I say it was horrible? Definitely.
Horrible things happen. Horrible health things happen when numbers are ignored over feelings. BMI means something. Blood pressure means something. Glucose levels mean somethings. Stating this is not mean.
I mean when you’re saying I’m fat according to bmi, and the bmi reads that I’m indeed at a healthy weight and losing even 10-15 pounds would put me underweight. When I weighed at my lowest 105lbs I was in the hospital frequently. I’m finally back at a healthy weight where I not having constant headaches and feeling sickly. So no I’m not ignoring the numbers at all.
Bet I get what you mean, it just doesn’t apply to me at my weight. I’d rather not go back to constantly feeling sickly with horrible headaches from being underweight.
I told you what you wanted to hear and you rejected it. You will always be over weight, miserable, and unable to conceive. You'll blame everyone but yourself
If I’m unable to conceive? Thank god, I don’t want children at all. I don’t plan anyone or myself because there nothing to blame myself for. I’m not overweight at all, the funniest thing about this is I asked how much you weight yet you skipped the question. So sounds like you’re self projecting. You didn’t tell me anything I wanted to hear lol. If I wanted to hear anything specific it would be you never being able to talk again.
Im 145 lbs. I can hear your blood pressure from here fatty.
Lmao I’m fat? Yet you weigh more than me? Odd
Not odd at all. Im a man amd muscles weights twice as much as fat. My BMI is around 10. Not bad for over 40. Your BMI? Scientifically obese
lol. Your bmi isn’t 10 at 146lbs and 26 years old, you weigh more than me and I assume you’re taller than me too. Sounds like someone is lying, just gonna sum it up to your self projecting.
BMI has nothing to do with age. Room temperature IQ fatty.
So how tall are you then?
Almost as tall as you are wide.
8 feet 5 inches.
Well since you allegedly are now shorted to 23 inches tall… you are quite short and severely underweight. You should probably get that checked out bud
lol, since your trolling. I actually find you funny, which is why I’m entertaining this. Your funny I like you, please keep talking this is fun
Now that you finally caught on. The magic is gone. Im flying my 10 BMI 8 foot 5 frame up the chimney like Santa.
lol, let’s be friends
Ok. But only on the internet.
Well obviously
Besties for life. Im a huge fan of Taylor swifts fiance's big brother. Here is a internet friendship bracelet. You have to shake it off though. Its a little dusty