War On Christmas! What is religiously & racial offensive about the Navity?

[Drewtate]

... a scene as it depicts a middle Eastern jewish couple having a baby?

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With Christianphobia on the rise we can expect more attacks from Liberals in their War on Christmas 🎄

[RealMarek]

What is offensive is that religion, like clan structures, cohesive communities, and even the nuclear family, is a potential power center that could rival the secular state. So the forces that control the apparatus of the state naturally use their power to attack religion and traditional family structures while seeking to keep the most educated and capable people too mobile and busy to sink deep roots into a community. The secular state at first makes people feel free because it eliminates the social control exerted by alternate power centers like aristocracy and religion. However, in short order an elite always comes to dominate the secular state and, with other nodes of resistance neutered or eliminated, the people find themselves dispossessed and beholden to the state.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

This is why many times I'm optimistic about going to Church. I had a maternal grandmother, was a super sweet woman and never went to Church but was Liberal. My paternal grandmother was Conservative and faithfully went to Church, but no matter what political party one belongs to, these things happen. This is why I am no longer Liberal or Conservative, I am my own party.

[Drewtate]

Most people actually are

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Thanks for MHO :)

[AliceM611]

I've seen this a few times with nativity scenes & school plays. Someone takes offence. I remember a story about a Christmas tree being banned.

[Drewtate]

I don't see the problem with a school play telling a historical event. It's educational.

[Agape93]

No idea. It's not even about Christianity. Everyone involved was Jewish

[Drewtate]

Just like Martin Luther was a Catholic. Its in the name Christ-Christian, Christ-Mass.

[Agape93]

Doesn't change a thing about what I said.

[exitseven]

This is just a way for democrats to destroy something that unites Americans. The less we have to hold us together the easier it will be to destroy us from within.

[AviatorTom]

Some people don't study history... and listen to radicals who write their own history.

How many people know that Jesus Christ was a Jew?

[NathanDavis]

I keep hearing this every year... but I never see it myself, lol

[strateguy632]

watch the series goldbergs they have an episode playing this idea out. i forget which season.

[NathanDavis]

@strateguy632 I can't live in fiction...

I meant actual reality

[zagor]

I don't think there is a war on Christmas, but I do know that 90% of the secular Christmas music, which is all they play in stores now to avoid offending anyone, is really really bad. Give me "O come all ye faithful" over "Simply having a wonderful Christmas time" (blecch) any day.

[Drewtate]

Many of these secular songs are just regular pop songs with an occasional reference to Christmas

[strateguy632]

it is the PURPOSE of generating the idea of offensive. then they can misuse it to target anything even far indirect stuff to silence stuff that differs from the liberal agenda. this was the danger of using such a principle in the first place.

this is the reason the first thing taught in preschool is not to cry when people say mean stuff. time for the whiners to grow up and stop whining.

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

I don't have anything against Christmas, but the corrupt Church uses it as a leverage against the power and integrity of the State, and that doesn't sit well with me.

Don't get me wrong, I am against our current government, but I foresee that when we will take the helm the Church will be an obstacle we'll have to remove.

[Drewtate]

Yes Hitler thought the same

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

Well, when you have a parasite feeding off your body, the reasonable thing is to remove it.

[Drewtate]

It's called free will. Churches are supported by the people.

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

I'm not saying banning the Church.
I just say to tax it properly, revoke their privileges and exemptions and make them stop acting like a State within a State.

[Drewtate]

So you are saying tax the people twice for being religious? You don't think people already pay enough taxes?

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

Not the churchgoers, but the higher ups.
Tax them like they tax companies. Because at the end of they day they are a business, with their lands, organizations and properties.

[Drewtate]

If the people vote for it then yes otherwise its just yet another tax on the people

[RealMarek]

@Sun_Kim-Ai You might find my comment about potential nodes of competition with the state. I have a different perspective, namely that it is very bad for the common people to ever be dependent on a state that is unconstrained by any competing nodes of power.

[FunkyMonkee]

There's no Mexicans or Indians in it!
I'm not the least bit religious but I still set one or two of them up. It's more of a family tradition kinda thing, than a religious thing.

[RainBat]

Nobody except reddit atheists actually cares, and you really shouldn't care about their opinions, you just have a persecution fetish, there's different things now, but nobody is stopping you from enjoying things the way you always have.

[smne35]

Stand firm to your belief never waver when your challenged never compromise you ethics morals or integrity and never lower yourself to anyone who try to cut you down or your faith always stand firm ask the Lord for strength ok

[Exterminatore]

I find nothing offensive about a nativity scene. It’s just icons or statutes depicting a biblical event. I have one out on my front lawn myself.

[HappyWoman34]

I don’t get it either

[DarkLegacy]

There is nothing racist about it at all, it is bitter other religious group and minorities trying to get their own back for things that happened in the past.

[jimmy2]

I don't do Christmas it's realgious I am too but I don't ever seem to have cash
I also know it's a false date for the Bible says the men we out in the field tending to their flock

[strateguy632]

what proof is that? sheep need to eat all year and bethlehem has a mild winter in December? i think today is 75 degrees in israel but id did not check.

[Drewtate]

@strateguy632 you are entirely right. The tempature in bethlehem is 14°c today, sheep even in countries with the coldest winters stay outside. The reason sheperds are out is to scare away predators, rustlers and of course the fact that sheep are the stupidest animals.
The Jewish calender differs from the Gregorian calendar, the Eastern orthodox calender and the Gregorian calendar we all mostly use today. For instance today is the 25th of December in the Jewish calender. The Greek orthodox Church won't celebrate Christmas this year until January 7th. It's to do with solar drift, in the old roman calender the 25th of December was the day of the winter solstice whereas today it's December 21st. Basically they needed a calender that accurately predicted the seasons

[OddBeMe]

Ahhh…nuthin if you keep that bullshit in your churches and outta public properties.

[Drewtate]

Yes ban the rest too including pride parades

[OddBeMe]

Pride parades are the same as churches. Do you not see that?

[Drewtate]

Last atheist who banned both was hitler

[OddBeMe]

No he didn’t actually, true. He didn’t like Christianity since was connected to Judaism, but Hitler was definitely religious, reading astrology and other bullshit. And he had deals with the Vatican who helped Nazis escape to S America.

[Drewtate]

Hitler's henchmen were searching for a different religion, German paganism for instance but Hitler was atheist.
Catholic churches and organisations were shut down in the reich. The Catholic Church saved 80,000 Jews. The nazis fled everywhere they could including the United States, Middle east and Africa.

[SoJust]

I dont know