The thing us that some of the not so attractive ones become more attractive as you know them, but still, a lot of them aren't.
But I am the type of person that needs to know someone before i can decide if i even like them physically.
80% of all males? That's probably true, because a really high percentage of the male population is either a child or way too old for me (and not all men age well).
But 80% of guys of the right age range? Absolutely not. I'd say around 50% is at least a "yeah why not". Then another pretty large percentage would be "meh, not really for me", and a very small percentage, around 2%, would be "damn he's ugly".
It's true that's there's only a very small percentage of men that I look at and think "wow, that's a handsome guy" and immediately want to have sex with, because I only get that with guys that I see more regularly, maybe have talked to, and that I would classify as a 'crush'. I have never seen someone in the street once and had that level of attraction to them.
Woman don't date men for their looks - they date men for their personalities - this is why only 20% of men are able to attract woman based on their looks alone. Woman can attract men with their looks pretty easily but maintaining that relationship when the beauty fades is something they cannot do without intelligence and virtue and a hard work ethic.
That's why most women are close to asexual?
"Women dont date men for their looks" I would like to have a very credible source for such a bold statement.
Whether true or not I have experience that relates... kinda confirms. A late bloomer I always had trouble engaging women I was attracted to. Dating sites allowed me to say hi and respond to at least some level of interest from the lady. Then a coffee date, etc. first meeting resulted from an exchange of ideas and a sense of respective personalities. Maybe not permanent success. But attachments of varying degrees. Sure my pics may have helped but personality discoveries were my friend.
That's it. Women do not instantly find a guy attractive by his looks. I feel like those studies are based on showing pictures of a guy and asked are they attractive which is bad way to measure because men's way to seduce a woman is not to look pretty, like women's primary way is. Like you said "some of the not so attractive ones become more attractive as you know them". Same if a guy looks hot, he gets a lot of attention at first, but the girls can get turned off easily if he's insecure or shows other red flags.
Yeah, on tinder i barely have 10 matches, but i am not sure if i even swiped right on more than that. Even on them i am not sure. It was only 1 guy i was sure i was attracted to him, but his face was a 10/10. The guys i fell for in yhe past didn't impress me with their looks at first, though they are handsome, i just couldn't be sure.
Exactly. Tinder is very unfair for guys to be honest. Because in order for a woman to be attracted to a man by one or two pictures, he has to be basically 10/10.
I said on tinder, where you can only decide you like someone by their pics... i already said that most of the guys i was in love with didn't impress me with their looks at first, though they were handsome too. I need to talk to them for a wgile or at least be around to and see how they act to decide. Anyway, i am good looking too, i don't know how much, but most guys wouldn't say no to me if the looks were the only concern. I don't think i deserve only top models, i just couldn't do my thing on tinder.
Sounds like you may be demisexual, which is categorized as someone who needs to feel an emotional connection to feel attracted to someone. I am fairly demisexual myself. She can be the most beautiful woman in the world, but if we don't have a connection it's a no-go for me. It's not unusual at all, it just means you value connection over purely vanity. 🙂
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If Iām being totally honest, I feel like people are just generally not that physically attractive these days. We collectively donāt look our best because of our lifestyles, at least in the western world, and certainly in America where I live. I could spend the day detailing why, but in the interest of time, Iāll just chalk it up to a culture where we eat for satisfaction rather than for nutrition like weāre supposed to, and people want easy instant gratification rather than hard-earned results over time. To be fair, the society we live in requires us to work way too much to get by and most of us struggle to make the money we need in just 40 hours, so our time is limited, and some people just get overwhelmed and discouraged from taking more time out of their lives for personal maintenance. It also costs too much to buy healthy foods vs unhealthy foods. Thereās a lot working against us. That said, donāt allow those to be built-in excuses!
But not to stray too far off the point, not everyone is born with the face of a model, but there are things we can do to improve ourselves. I get literally 30 minutes a day to workout, but I make it my business to get there, in the face of the most incredibly challenging circumstances of my life right now, so donāt make excuses for yourself! Thatās not to pat myself on the back, but just to illustrate that people with a lot less insane lives can do it if they really want to, most just donāt. So our substandard physical attractiveness IS ultimately on us, to some degree anyway. Extra weight is unflattering on most people, and most people are carrying extra weight.
We can get into a whole other rabbit hole too, of societal standards, and how things like social media, or just media in general alter our preferences and standards, but that takes more time than I have at the moment, haha.
Bottom line: some things we canāt change and need to work with; other things are very much within our control, it just requires personal discipline.
I don't fancy very many men. I'm 27 nearly 28. Anyways I've dated a few men and from different races what I've learned is men are pretty similar on a basic level. Especially when it comes to the requirements of their woman. Individually though they have their own little quirks. What you have to figure out is if those quirks suit you.
I personally although I want children and I say I want a family, I am not able to get comfortable with that. So unfortunately I don't find men attractive anymore. It's like a switch went off in my head and told me no. The radar is off. I see attractive men but it's like looking at pretty clothes you can't afford to buy, you look but no touching or trying on. That's a choice. I'm sure when I'm ready that will change.
I think most individuals (regardless of sex) only find 20% of the opposite sex sufficiently attractive to mate with for life. The reason many claim this is more common with females than males is because "sufficient for mating with for life" is often the only criteria by which females assess male attractiveness.
On the other hand, males have separate criteria for mating with for life, and for casual sex. So, *in addition* to the 20% that they find attractive enough to *either* mate with for life *or* have casual sex with , they find 40% attractive enough to *only* have casual sex with.
I don't know about that. I mean, what percentage of women have to find a guy attractive for him to qualify to be in that 20%? I'd say 0% of men are attractive to 100% of women and at least 90% of men are attractive to at least one woman. Plus, as you said, the more you get to know a guy the more he could become attractive. So the whole 80% thing is biased by the guys you don't know. I tend to have the opposite experience with women though. They usually become less attractive the more I get to know them.
I wouldnāt say I find 80% of guys unattractive per se, but I would say I find the majority of men neither attractive nor unattractive. Most are just average to me and donāt really have any eye-catching features. Outside of that though thereās probably more guys I find attractive than I do unattractive.
I feel similarly to you about women. I don't tend to find many attractive, but personality can help a lot. Most girls can't impress me with their looks alone. It boggles my mind why guys are so "thirsty." Don't get me wrong though, there are some gorgeous women, most just don't have the traits I find attractive.
Given the escalating rates of obesity in the US and the law of statistics, I'd say it is generally accurate that a large portion of the population is going to be unattractive (and continuing to grow as obesity rates go up).
You have to be honest to yourself though - are you trying to score a guy out of your league.
This assumes that the poster is only in the US, and also assumes that they think all obese females are unattractive.
For example, if you want rough sex, then a nice guy should be able to figure that out, and give you the rough sex you want.
Sorry... post was from an answer above, and we aren't allowed to edit our responses. Should have been: God created Our Universe with Love and Free Will. Use your Free Will to Love!
Females have a built in- filter
Someone who'm she perceives as successful, or high in status is generally found more desirable because of nesting-instinct...
From an evolutionary perspective- Men that were good hunters, or men with high social status were more likely to be a benefit, increasing the chances of successfully having progeny and surviving.
The rest are weeded out over time.
this is why I will never go on a date or try talking to a girl. I don't want the humiliation or sadness that comes with rejection.
I will not give those evil picky bitches the pleasure of rejecting me. instead I will reject them if any girl ever acts interested in me. haha
Humiliation or sadness does NOT come with rejection.
ONLY YOU are capable, and responsible, for your emotions.
If YOU CHOOSE to be humiliated or sad after a rejection, then you will be.
If YOU CHOOSE NOT to be humiliated or sad after a rejection, then you won't be.
YOU are in control of YOUR LIFE. It is your choice to use your control, or "give it away" to someone else. If you choose to allow someone else to "control" your emotions, then you will think they are in control of your emotions. They are not.
If you want a relationship with a woman, then try to get one. If you are not attracted to women at all, you could be gay. You may want to think about yourself, and what you want out of your life. I wish you a interesting and fulfilling life.
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Same thing can be said about men for me at least. I tend to reject most of the girls and super cautious when I am dating one. Currently, i am in a relationship for more than3 years after carefully evaluation and things are smooth so far.
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Women are not as attracted to outward physical appearance as much as men are.
They look for money providers personality more as they get older. A dude can be hott as fuck but dumb and broke and it's unattractive to them.
Not so for men we are very visual base that's y u see hott super models with 70 year old men and not other way around
Because guys can't cover their ugliness behind makeup😂
That is true u know. ugly girls can do makeup and look pretty but boys dont have that option.
Bull shit. If you look like Gollum, makeup isn't gonna turn you into Adriana Lima
@cavmanier nah it can add only half a point or one mostly.. It can't turn ugly as she said, into pretty
Just google makeup transformations and see the results
Whereas you can. But is it working for you bish?
Guys CAN use makeup if they want, and some do.
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i don't think it's true, but in the case that it is i'm pretty sure that it's not meant to be picked up as every girl likes the same guy, 80% meaning different guys than other girls, if you kinda get what i mean.
It was true in one study, of one dating app. The app is mostly used by Americans, so it doesn't mean anything if you are not looking in the US.
Hilarious (to me) podcast segment about this exact issue.
"13% of men are above a 5!"
The video is false. Only incels can "cause" incels. Everyone is responsible for their own feelings. NO ONE can MAKE YOU feel happy or sad. ONLY YOU can make you feel happy or sad. Take control of your own feeling, your own life, and your own path. The more you try to improve yourself, the more successful you will be.
I used to be VERY shy. I decided I didn't want to be. I started to pretend I was not shy, and go up and talk to girls. I kept faking it... kept going up and approaching girls. The more i did it, the easier it became. Eventually, I stopped being shy. Now I am extroverted, and not shy at all.
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depends on my mood but generally kind of... yes
some days i'm like ew... guys are just gross.. ew
and then others i'm like oh boy... i love boys! i love boys sooo much they are all so cute n hot!!
@apozieru not that i think i'd say i'm a pretty straight person but i mean i appreciate female beauty, I don't know if i'd ever date a girl though
THE most important thing about a possible match, is if they are nice. Nice does NOT mean boring. It means that they are a good person, they are willing to listen to you, and try their best to connect with you. For example, if you want rough sex, then a nice guy should be able to figure that out, and give you the rough sex you want, or tell you that they are not comfortable with rough sex, and then the two (or more) of you can go from there.
Maybe? Not sure about the statistics but I rarely see guys who catch my eyes. But, there is this cafe that I go to every Saturday with my friend, somehow most of the guys who go there are super good looking, same for the girls.
Nope im straight
It's because women are spoilt for choice in suitors.
If you had a lot if items to choose but could only chose one of them you'd pick the best item wouldn't you.
It's also because women can go longer without physical and sexual affection.
Then why do men have much higher sex drives?
Some women act like that because they can get away with it not because they crave sexual contact.
Plus you hear the term crazy cat lady.
It refers to a woman who has never had relationships with guys and uses cats to fill the void instead.
Guys really can't do that, I have never heard of guys blocking out their human affection requirements with just a bunch of animals.
I know of guys that have THEIR dog, so they don't need anyone else. I want a dog AND a good woman. I now have one of the two.
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Well most guys *are* unattractive.
Side note: I probably find 80% of women *attractive*. Everytime I go out there's literally a really hot girl in every direction I look.
I find a good 60% of guys appealing in some way or another...
right now I find 2% of guys attractive🤷🏾āāļø depends on my mood.
I think it's pretty hard to accurately get a statistic on that. I don't know 80% of men either so I'm gonna go with it's untrue for me.
yeah its really hard for me to find someone I'm attracted in i think it starts with me liking the person first because i think, at least in my case, men are really persistent and like to let you know and it gets kinda too much and its a turn off
@beautifuldisaster221 yup probably
@beautifuldisaster221 ok dude
yeah sure but most men alsofind 80% of women unattractive xD that's how attraction works. if everyone would find everyone attractive, who would you fuck or marry then? xD
I do not believe that. I have never seen a study that found that men find 80% of women unattractive.
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@earthcitizen7 XD i'm crapping my pants laughing right now. you are not believing me on behalf ot "lacking scientific evicence for my claim" and then you go ahead and claim god created our universe :D good one.
I think if people were totally honest they would say they find 80% of ALL people unattractive, both male and female but unattractive doesn't automatically mean ugly.
Yeah there are a lot of shallow girls like you out there. Thatās why all the good ones are taken. And the ones that are single and free are the ones no guys want like you.
That's the most depressing news I got all day... I thought women found more guys attractive than that, now I know my chances are even worse... 80%? Fuck!
Im really distressed over this, so what about on a horny day? What percent are we talking?
First, it doesn't matter. If you want a relationship, all that matters is if the two (or more) of you find yourselves attractive enough to each other. Second, the survey that found this was done on one dating app, that mostly has US people on it, so it is a very selective survey.
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Women just find men with pants personalities not good looking. Unless he really isnāt very physically good looking, but even then he can add points on by being valuable in other ways.
I typically found about 1 in 4 women to be physically attractive.
Well, itās true that most of the population is average looking and a few are good looking. There are maybe more than just 20 percent of good looking humans.
The statistic refers to 80% of men being considered below average its not referring to only a high bracket.
Contrast this with the same statistic being done for women and you see a very smooth expected curve. 50% of women are considered above average and 50% below, with the bulk being around the middle. Thatās what youād expect to see but itās not what you see when women rate men.
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This probably comes from women being harder to satisfy in general, beyond men. I'm not sure if you've worked with women but that is very common lol
@cavmanier What's very common?
@AllThatSweetJazz women being harder to please is more common than with men I've found.
@cavmanier Well I don't think it "comes from" that. I think we're talking about the same thing.
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My point is if a person has higher expectations, they aren't going to be as satisfied as a person with low expectations. Them saying the 80th percentile is average demonstrates this. It's a distorted view they have. It's irrational. I'm not sure why else, but I've noticed the pickiness about women. Maybe they just don't understand the concept about average due to their lower math and reasoning ability lol. I doubt that though.
This results from a tinder survey. 80% of women go for 20% of men. But then wonder why those men cheat and then they say men are all the same. No your just superficial
ur not only one, in my last school i found only 1 girl attractive , maybe 2 but im not sure about other one. I see all the time attractive girl in other schools but not in my...
what's true is 100% of the women in class are having sex with all 3 of those guys.
I don't know 80 percent of men, so I am gonna say no
Is that based on a specific study? But yea there's a buttload of ugly people out there
It is an OKCupid study...
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as a guy who is a part of the unattractive majority, i definetly agree with your post 100%. girls only like me for my personality.
I find most women where I live attractive, then I traveled to more diverse countries like US and I think I found like 1% of women attractive
I mean in school there were usually only 2-3 girls that were pretty. Just made the rest look bad lol.
In each class I meam
Eh, I dunno; I find about 80-85% of females unattractive, so... I guess it may be normal to have it the other way around.
It's not that they find 80% of Guys Unattractive, It's because they ignore at least 80% of Guys.
Us Guys pay more Attention to Women than Women pay Attention to Men.
It could very well be true, but out of curiosity, what kind of guy is your type exactly?
That's sounds about right. I find about 80% of women unattractive.
same
I don't know. I doubt most guys are attractive. Same for me with women, most are not attractive
This all follows what we are fed by society, sex sells, and there are many different body types/looks that women have that are marketable, compared to guys
Your question has a difficult answer because is really imprecise.
That's based upon OKCupid Stats. I doubt it translates to any real world applications.
Also, OKCupid is mostly used in the US...
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Only on dating sites in person its quite the opposite theyre less picky. Dating sites give women even fat women ego boosts
Dunno whether it's true, but I, too, have a hard time finding men attractive. There are only few whom I could safely say are truly attractive.
It's very true, and the problem is that ALL women find the SAME 20% of men attractive and the other 80% unattractive. So yeah it's whatever.
What college is that? Lol most guys at mine at good lookiny
100% of women are unattractive. You strip off the layer of paint and all you are left with is something that no mortal should ever lay eyes on.
That is impossible. You have chosen to view 100% of women as unattractive. If we put you under hypnosis, we could find out what you really think. You are using your mind to force yourself to believe something, that you do not really believe. Your problem may be with some very traumatic thing that happened to you when you were younger, or in a Past Life. I hope you can go on to live a good life.
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I agree but more like 90%.
Women are unattracted to every guy who isn't of high status.
False.
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Get ready for hurt feelings.
False. YOU control YOUR feelings. NO ONE outside of you, can make you feel happy, or sad. They can do things to help you, but they can NOT make YOU happy, only themselves.
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Most girls are like that, yes.
I know they find 80% of men shit in bed
Shallow* women in my opinion
80% seems like a bit much, but maybe
statistically correct.
Probably
why do you say that?
Girls are usually super picky and attractive people are rare.
Super picky!! what about the tons of ugly guys with super hot females?
I know none of them.
Nearly all girls i know are with average and ugly guys
Congratulations.
Women are attracted to personality, not looks
I am attracted to looks too, i wouldn't date a fat ugly guy... but we are attracted to the whole package: looks + personality.
You are demisexual close to asexual you are just a minority
This is how most people on Our Earth are... looks+personality.
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Well that's interesting.
Yeah
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