Who's got/getting their vaccine?

[OliviaOfTheScots]

Got it (good job)

Getting it (proud of you)

Not getting it I'm scared of needles (just get it done I believe in you)

[genericname85]

i'm not gonna get it and i don't give a shit what people think about it. vaccines are not a joke. vaccines are serious decision that HAVE to undergo a proper risk/benefit analysis for the individual.

for vaccines like rabies and tetanus for example, you will find extremely few people who do have a negative risk/benefit ratio, cause those vaccines are nearly 100% effective at preventing you from getting sick, while without the vaccine you nearly have a 100% of dying to the disease.

with covid, everyone under 70 has a 99.95% chance of not dying even if they don't have the vaccine. so tell me more about the "benefit" that this vaccine can possibly have. meanwhile you can't tell me anything about the risks, cause -news flash- this vaccine got permission by emergency decision. the proper long term studies and not even sudies about interactions with other medicines are out yet.

If you put the covid vaccines on the same level as established vaccines for things like polio, diphteria, tetanus, rabies, measles and all those, then you clearly are out of your freaking mind.

[genericname85]

for covid vaccines, "maybe" in 5-6 years when the proper long term studies are in, i "might" consider getting it. now? never in hell! i actually value my health more than some idiots opinions.

[genericname85]

i see it like this: i make my decision, you make yours. the one of us who's wrong will be sorted out by natural selection. so i think "free decision" should be a thing any way you see it.

[OliviaOfTheScots]

My concern is less myself and more potentially giving it to someone high risk

[genericname85]

you know i share that concern. that's why i stay clear of people in "the risk group", when i feel slightly sick. and when i feel really sick, i stay clear of everyone. common sense before 2019...

besides: asymptomatic or presymptomatic infections were a statistical estimation made in early 2020 that could not have been confirmed since. so i don't contradict contemporary science when i tell you: if you have no symptoms, you're not gonna infect anyone.

[genericname85]

sorry, just to be extra scientifically accurate and not tell you bullshit: all the studies out claim statistical validity for presymptomatic or asymptomatic infections. yet not a single case of asymptomatic or presymptomatic infection was recorded or observed in the entire time and trust me. they did try very hard to find that. cause they obviously had big interest in that being true.

[ShadezMcgee]

Not getting it, have the anti bodies. Enough with the shaming and casting shade at people who decide not to get it. It's a choice. Their choice, their risk.

[Still-alive]

and other peoples risk.. kinda like smoking... but i guess you'll just gloss over that detail huh?

[ShadezMcgee]

@Still-alive let's make a deal then. Make abortion illegal first, then I will be open to the idea. My body, my choice, right?

[Still-alive]

abortions don't put other people at risk though... un-vaccinated people do

[ShadezMcgee]

@Still-alive so murder is okay, but if you don't get a shot for something you have over a 98% survival rate if you are healthy
you are evil? Just to clarify this.

Are you looking at the unvaccinated people remaining as those who voluntarily chose not to get the vaccine as a possible factor as well? What about those who were recommended not go get it from their personal doctors due to possible health concerns? To go along with that, those who are unvaccinated that are still in the process of getting vaccinated will more than likely have more say of those in their family or those who think similar.

But I find it complete horse shit to demonize individuals for a personal choice through means of emotional manipulation, slander and being uncaring and unsympathetic assholes. It all revolves around choice.

[OliviaOfTheScots]

Just to clarify my point of view, if you plan on not getting it stay away from people who you know are high risk (elderly and kids)

[Still-alive]

"murder is okay," abortion isn't murder... and im not gonna be dragged into an abortion debate with you so do not bother responding to this

"if you don't get a shot for something you have over a 98% survival rate if you are healthy "

for you not for other vulnerable people whom you have a good chance at infecting if you do not get it.

"Are you looking at the unvaccinated people remaining as those who voluntarily chose not to get the vaccine as a possible factor as well?"

your point?

"What about those who were recommended not go get it from their personal doctors due to possible health concerns?"

not a significant number to get all that concerned about.

"It all revolves around choice. "

right and your "choice" just might get other vulnerable people killed

We are trying to reach herd immunity and as i explained to the other guy you and others like who who refuse to get it are making that difficult to achieve.

" 98% survival rate if you are healthy "

[hellionthesagereborn]

@Still-alive First off, you have no idea how vaccines work. Its not risking any one who hasn't taken the vaccine so the only people "at risk" are those who refuse to take the vaccine (you should be happy about that). Second, its not a risk because covid has a survival rate of 99.7% and in certain demographics (younger people) its even higher. So at no point has this ever been a risk.

Also are you insane? Abortions, the act of literally killing another being, doesn't put other beings at risk?

At this point this has nothing to do with "keeping people safe" and everything to do with you being an authoritarian.

[Still-alive]

@hellionthesagereborn lol no bitch. you are the authoritarian holding other vulnerable peoples lives at risk.

and please stfu about abortion im not interested in debating that with you.

[hellionthesagereborn]

@oliviaofthescots Children are not high risk, in fact they have an even higher survival rate then the 99.7% that every one else has (except for those who are over the age of seventy with mulitple pre existing conditions in which case they have a 94% survival rate.). Also why are they not getting vaccinated then since the vaccine prevents you from contracting coronavirus the only people some one who doesn't get vaccinated can affect is other people who are vaccinated. Besides which he pointed out he has the antibodies meaning he has no reason to get vaccinated because he is already immune and thus cannot transmit even if covid was a legitimate threat which it isn't.

[Still-alive]

@hellionthesagereborn " Also why are they not getting vaccinated then" because they are still working on a vaccine for them duhhh pay attention.

[hellionthesagereborn]

@Still-alive You have no idea what authoritarian means do you? Authoritarian means you have taken on the power and authority to dictate to people what they can and cannot do. So you are demanding that every one obey your will, this is a power trip for you that your getting off on (probably because you have no power in real life and this is the best your going to get). That would make you by literal definition, an authoritarian. Saying people have the right to choose, that people have a right to bodily autonomy, is quite literally the exact opposite of authoritarianism. How do you not know what authoritarianism is at your age?

As for abortion, your the one who believes "her body her choice. . . unless I decide otherwise", so teh abortion argument is a valid one. The reason why you don't want to argue it is because you can't, you have feelings and demands but no facts or logical arguments.

[Still-alive]

@hellionthesagereborn you are also robbing other people of the right to life but i guess you'll just overlook that like all you anti vaxxers do

[kannettava]

My boss just informed us that we will be starting to get vaccines through work health care in week 22 or 23. So getting mine in a couple of weeks. Currently in my country people aren't allowed to get a vaccine at my age, unless they are in a risk group. The age limit in my city right now is 50 .

[genericname85]

you should probably take the chance and not take it. i mean it is quite telling that you are "not allowed" to get it. causue they know exactly that the risk of the vaccine is too high for young people like you. they know you can sue them if you suffer from the side-effectsl. they are not stupid. they don't want law suits.

[kannettava]

We're not allowed to have it yet, because my city's capacity to vaccinate people isn't enough to allow everyone to get the vaccine at the same time. And older people are at a higher risk, which is why they get it first. I'm sure in countries like the US, you can just sue companies for everything and people don't laugh in your face for all the idiotic lawsuits. But in Finland you definitely can't sue a company for suffering from the side effects they've listed as a possibility and you've agreed to. But that's a great conspiracy. Maybe you can write a novel on it.

[genericname85]

ok. can you tell me your individual risk at dying to corona? and can you tell me exactly the ammount by which that risk is reduced by the vaccine. can you then also continue to measure this risk reduction vs the risks for sidie effects that you individually have when taking the vaccine?

the thing is that they don't even know the side effects. normally you could sue if you get side-effects that they didn't tell you about but since it's an "emergency admission" in case of those new vaccines, the companies don't have to make sure that there are no side-effects outside of what they are telling you as they normally would have to, cause that simply is impossible. those studies take more time than they have. thus in this particular case, you actually have to sue your government. cause they issued the emergency permission.

[Levin]

Finlandia is a modern country, man. You must have some vaccines. I mean, even Britain, the most dismally incompetent country in the world, is pushing ahead with their, *coughs*, medicine.

Also, the companies are indemnified from prosecution and responsibility with these emergency use authorisations, aren't they? Therefore, I'm guessing you will be suing the government. And given the government has no money, you're actually suing the taxpayer, ergo me. However, the public treasure chest of magic money seems rather stretched at the moment, doesn't it, due to the highly intelligent *coughs again - most have corona* virus measures. And if you have the vast majority of the population being maimed, or worse, due to unforeseen long term side effects.

Well then, good luck with that!

[genericname85]

@Levin it's rare for people to have that kind of oversight. If more were like you, we wouldn't be in this crisis. Sadly the majority of people is either willfully ignorant or just stupid :/

[genericname85]

I meant overview not oversight xD sorry i realized that translation from my native language means kind of the opposite of what i wanted to say.

[Apple1996]

Nah I will not be getting it since I'm pregnant even though the doctors push it onto pregnant women I just think it's better to not risk anything with my baby.

[mintbloo]

the only thing that will happen is the baby will be born with the antibody.

[OliviaOfTheScots]

@Apple1996 that's fair

[Apple1996]

@mintbloo it's a vaccine that's isn't fda approved so it is risky for the baby in my opinion. Pregnant women can't even drink teas or take vitamins that aren't fda approved cause it could harm the baby so to me the vaccine would be the same risk

[mintbloo]

It is about to get fully approved. And technically the FDA approved it for emergency use already so...

[Apple1996]

@mintbloo it really doesn't matter to me if it is or isn't. I just think it's ridiculous that doctors would push it on pregnant women then yell at them if they drink the wrong tea.

[Guardian45]

Congratulations!

[Apple1996]

@Guardian45 thank you!

[scooogy]

@Apple1996 when would you have your baby then?

[Apple1996]

@scooogy nah I'll be breastfeeding for 2 years so it still is risky

[scooogy]

@Apple1996 but it's only your milk 🤔

[Apple1996]

@scooogy I also have a plan to get pregnant again soon after this baby. But yeah it's still going to the baby through the milk

[scooogy]

@Apple1996 wouldn't you want to get vaccinated before getting pregnant again?

[Apple1996]

@scooogy it's not a worry for me

[etexbearkat]

I had my first Moderna shot on Saturday. I go three weeks from Saturday to get the second one. I felt the after effects of the first one nearly 24 hours after the shot, with the exception of the sore arm/pain at the injection site (that came much earlier).

[Twinrova]

I got mine. Once the vaccine takes full effect in 2 more weeks, I will be able to visit my nonna, who is also vaccinated. Haven't seen her in months >.<

[MissRomantic]

She needs to have both doses to be completely 95% safe with you guys hugging though. You can still spread COVID-19 when you’re vaccinated. You just don’t get seriously ill if you’re infected.

[Paul09]

I got it 2 days because we will not have a much of a choice. I'm not happy about it. I havnt got sick all this time.. A day later I couldn't lift my arm high. My while body felt so drained and weak. Everytime I get so called vaccines I get sick. When I dont, I never get sick. Would love to hear the explanation.

[Guardian45]

It ain't pretty

[Redstang88]

No, I’ll let everyone that’s worried be the guinea pigs

[weysally]

had mine, waiting for the second, another little prick

[A_Bell]

The responses are stupid. If you want to state your opinion, state your opinion, don't pretend you are interested in what others think.

[OliviaOfTheScots]

Want a snickers?

[ZackBan]

Not yet but I will be getting it as soon as I have a day off to shake the effects. Right now I'm going non-stop with school work and a vaccine side effect is the last thing I need knocking me out

[Anonymous]

Never gunna get accurate results with those shitty poll options

[Opinion Owner]

Any woman getting this, hope you are aware of infertility risks associated with pfizer and moderna

[genericname85]

she clearly doesn't care. clearly she wants to rationalize her stupid unreflected decision after the facts and doesn't wanna know if she was wrong.

[OliviaOfTheScots]

@genericname85 you can @ me or pop a message instead of chatting shite while I'm busy.

I'm sure there are risks (although I'm not too fussed about kids) but with how I plan on travelling it's the best thing for me to do

[genericname85]

i see. so your decision is pretty much the manifestation of the problem. you are litterally coerced to get the vaccine not cause it is necessary for your personal health but cause otherwise your travels are inconvenienced to an unbearable amount...

vaccines are a "health" related decision. not a "politics" related one. but if your health isn't worth shit to you, i'm not here to tell you what to do. i'm just not always sure if people are actually aware.

[genericname85]

if you are fully aware of what you're doing, then i'm sorry to have talked shit about you. and in that case what i previously said will apply: natural selection will sort out whomever of us 2 is wrong in this.

[OliviaOfTheScots]

Like you said before people my age have a high chance of it not being fatal, firstly I work in a hairdresser's and in close contact with a lot of people some elderly so it reduces that problem

[OliviaOfTheScots]

As far as traveling goes it makes life easier not having to worry as much as if I wasn't vaccinated

[genericname85]

there is no recorded case of anyone getting their infection at a haridressers place. just saying.

[OliviaOfTheScots]

Never said there was, said I was in close contact with people where I work

[genericname85]

i know you didn'd say that. i'm just saying, that there's painfully little actual hard science on infection dynamics. i'm trying to make you see the irrational panic that we all gotten so used to that is not natural but was forced upon us by policies and media.

[OliviaOfTheScots]

Agreed, take everything the media says with a pinch of salt, however there's still strong signs that people can carry it which goes back to my point of giving it to high risk people being my issue with it

[genericname85]

well corona viruses exsited basically forever and we've become aware of them like 50 years ago. and we definitely has worse flu waves in the past that we didn't overreact that much to. which makes me think, they're hiding a bigger issue.

[genericname85]

*had

[mintbloo]

oh shut up. there are no infertility risks. stop trying to scare people.

[Browneye57]

Already had it and got over it, so have immunity/antibodies. Not much point in taking an experimental drug for something 99.9% of people get over just fine.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Yeah, that was my opinion, if every one who doesn't have three preexisting diseases survives it, don't see much of a point to getting it. Now that they are getting aggressive and demanding it though, now I'm not getting it out of spite.

[Browneye57]

@hellionthesagereborn - It makes it that much more suspicious.
Some are saying the combined deaths from the vax in US and EU exceed ten thousand. That would tend to indicate the vax is as or more deadly than the actual virus.
Others are saying the vax IS the virus - designed to hook people into big-pharma for future shots. It's all about the $$.

I dunno, the symptoms were pretty mild, I've had worse strep throat or flu. It's the cytokine storm after that is so deadly - so many end up with pneumonia or other organ failure from the immune response. So our bodies don't have any trouble developing immunity, it's that actual response that is so deadly.

The worst thing is the mixed messaging. With Fauci financing the bio lab where it came from, the WHO in bed with the CCP, and CDC flip-flopping every couple weeks, it's no wonder people don't trust the messaging. They all just lie too much.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Vaccines are big money, I mean the flu vaccines are meaningless yet they sell those every year (because the virus mutates so quickly that you can only have a vaccine for one out of a thousand, and the overwhelming majority of people will not contract and those who do will be fine), and would love to make it mandatory. Then you have the issue that the pharmacutical companies have contracts stating that none of them can be held accountable for anything that happens with the vaccines while the government is trying to make it mandatory that every American get it. Thats highly supsect and we know that politicians have huge ties to pharmacutical companies (as well as wallstreet and all the big money businesses).

I know a guy who got both versions of covid and had minor issues for a few days. If your not within the small demographic that is in danger, then its a pretty mild disease ( .3% mortality rate, that is better then driving). This has been purely political, thats why they are demanding we all get a vaccine even though its not needed. Just about control.

[Browneye57]

@hellionthesagereborn - I'm seeing about half the country is starting to get to this. We're just not going to put up with it any more. My guess is within the next sixty days this thing is just going to peter off to nothing and go away. It just won't make any sense anymore. The hospitals are already empty, there's just no one left to get it that need hospital care. So if it IS about control, then that will become exceedingly obvious, and people will simply rebel.
It's like the mask thing - they've made it political. Those that love them wear them as a badge of progressivism. Those that hate them are now convinced they do nothing. It's all been an exercise in futility. The virus has already came and went, it's over.

[hellionthesagereborn]

God I hope so but where I'm at every one seems to still be buying this shit. "fifteen days to flatten the curve." . . . over a year later, people are still acting like this is a threat. I mean one could argue that they didn't know any better at first, but I still have family members and coworkers arguing this is a threat and every one has to get vaccinated (I don't know if people know what vaccines do because they seem to think they don't work unless every single human being in the world gets one). Though I live near chicago so that could be why (not a lot of free thinkers in this area).

Personally I refuse to get vaccinated now just out of pure unadulterated spite. I didn't need it before, but now with the world telling me I don't get a say, that I must bend the knee and obey them, they can just fuck off and die now because my apathy is now spite and their is nothing they can do to get me to get it now. I hope things change but I am a bit pestimistic on it.

[Browneye57]

@hellionthesagereborn I am not at all understanding the fear the vax'd have for the unvax'd. If you're safe, you're safe, right? Too much vritue-signaling met thinks. If cases are dropping off to nothing, what is left to fear?
The other thing I don't get is if you've had it and recovered, you have immunity. Your covid-positive results and that you're present should be good enough proof of immunity. PERIOD.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Precisely. Thats why I don't think it has anything to do with the actual virus because if it did their would be no reason for all of the demands, its just not rational and it quite honestly is anti science on their part.

[JamieLoves]

Never taking it ! Never!
There’s Zero reason to take a dangerous, untested , non FDA approved “ Lethal Injection “
when the Covid flu is 99.7% survivable !!!

[KostasKouvalis]

Yeah, I got both doses of the Pheizer. The second dose fucked me up. Probably better to get the Johnson & Johnson

[call_me_scar]

Yep got both of the shots that start with p a few weeks ago

[just_a_potato]

I opted to just stay at home instead of take the vaccine. If my school requires it for the fall semester though i'll go get it.

[anylolone]

I'd get it, if they were honest with the fact that's a dangerous experimental treatment which I'd be the guinea pig.

I'd love offering my body in the service of research, but dishonest research isn't research, it's a violation of human rights.

[SphynxUK]

I’ve had the first one.
Felt bloody awful for about 5 days.

[Guardian45]

AstraZeneca?

[SphynxUK]

Yeah.
Though I’ve heard the same from those who had Pfizer.
Swings and roundabouts….

[Guardian45]

I know someone who one shot of Pfizer and SO sick that they are choosing NOT to get the second shot!

[SphynxUK]

Maybe me included…

[serious]

I haven't taken the vaccine yet, but I am planning to for sure.

[InfobotLives]

I've had my first one and will get the second when they notify me 👀

[clampfan101]

Just got my second shot recently. In a few weeks I should be physically going to church. Also, I got lucky with experiencing no side effects from either shot. :)

[Drumlin2001]

Had my first dose today. Second dose is booked in 12 weeks

[Anonymous]

got it. i'm not paranoid anymore. and in most cases don't even need my mask in public anymore. it's great.