Are you taking the vaccine?

[Danny_dan92]

Ya’ll know wtf I’m talking about.

Given that I’m still in the military chances are I’m not gonna have a choice and wouldn’t be surprised that my command is gonna get a dose for each of the guys in my unit and we will all be forced to take it.

So even if I didn’t want too, I wouldn’t have a choice.

That being said. Gimme the damn shot. And for the love of god can everyone just take the shit so we can return back to our normal lives?

Yes.

No.

Updates

+1 y

Ok... I’m going to clarify on something since it appears that some people don’t understand something.

When they say a vaccine is 90-95% effective. It means it is 90-95% likely to prevent you from getting seriously ILL from the virus upon being exposed to it.

It does not mean that there is a 10-5% that you will die from it.

[nightdrot]

Voted Yes and totally agree with you. In fact, if you ever run for President, I will vote for you. Great god of battles!!! At last an adult!!! You're hired!!!

When I was a young lad I had a teen aged cousin who had a funny poster in his bedroom that read, "I'm too lazy to work and too nervous to steal."

Thus the American public. They expect perfect solutions, perfect security, and easy answers. In the current situation, if someone so much as sneezes it gets banner headlines and "Breaking News" as the public goes into fits of hair pulling panic and hysteria. Out goes the message - "Oh my god!! We're all going to die!! The end has come!!! All is lost!!! Where is the government!!! Who will save us?"

So then a vaccine is developed - actually several vaccines. America, we are told, is technologically proficient and cutting edge. A people known for our industriousness and pioneering spirit - the people who conquered a continent and put a man on the moon, and cured maladies as dangerous as polio. One might think this development would be seen in that grand tradition.

So what is the reaction? "I'm not touchin' that stuff!! Not me!!! No way!!!" Thus is paranoia added to unreasoning panic - and in the process any hope of saving lives and arresting the spread of the pandemic goes down the chute.

Is there a risk that the vaccine may not be perfect or have unforeseen consequences? Yup. You betcha!!

News flash: Life is risky. Life is taking chances. No outcomes is assured or foreordained in the laws of God and man. GET OVER IT!!!

There is the fear that might become reality. Then there is the pandemic, which IS reality. So instead the whinny, self-pitying American public will refuse to accept a cure not because of what they do know, but because of what they might know at some future point in time.

Oh, and those who are vulnerable to the pandemic - the elderly, those with pre-existing conditions, those who are suffering from the impact of lockdowns and all the rest? Those for whom if others take a vaccine they might be protected? Eh, they will just have to bag it. We ARE a compassionate society, don't ya know.

So put me down for a "Yes," I will take the vaccine when it is made available. Best case scenario I can stop wearing that idiotic mask that does not match anything in my wardrobe and makes me look fat. Worst case scenario I end up like those robe wearing zombies in the 1970s Charlton Heston film, "Omega Man."

Hey, my girlfriend says I look sexy in a robe. I'll just have to risk it.

[Yaaten]

Hell no. You can "take the shot" if you want to, but why should I be inoculated against a virus that, for people my own age, is no worse than the common cold? Prior to the new coronavirus arriving on the scene, thousands (especially old people) would die each year from the flu. There have been far more deaths each year from that flu than there ever was from the CCP virus, and yet we didn't panic over that. Why not?
People die, that's just a fact of life. Get used to it. I would rather live my life with risk, than be cocooned by a nanny-state government that is always trying to "protect" us from the harsh reality that we cannot control our fate.

[Puppystarfish23]

Really not sure. My big sister is in my medical field and she says she doesn't trust it because it's not gone through a proper trial and something could go wrong further down the line.

Its really annoying me too personally the media keep calling anyone who's slightly sceptical about it "anti vacs" it's not but im anti vac it's the fact im "anti yeah ill let the government gab a needle in me without knowing what the side effects are". Their also saying if we don't do it, we won't be able to travel, work etc like put the fucking yellow badge on us whilst you're at too. It's against peoples humans rights to say if you don't do what we want were taking your rights away. They legally can't do that but the government are constantly using covid as a right to go against people's rights so im honesty not shocked.

[syskerully]

The Russian vaccine has not gone through proper trials, that is true. But the others, like the ones developed in the US, UK and India have been going through trials as per protocol. The reason why it's happening faster than previous vaccines for other diseases is because firstly medical science is more advanced today, and secondly a lot of bureaucratic hurdles that would have slowed down the process are being removed by prioritising the vaccine development. Plus the US has such a huge number of cases, with detailed data collected on all of them, that it has actually helped scientists put together the necessary information about covid at a scale and speed unlike any other disease in history. Trust the science!

[Levin]

@syskerully A lot more advanced? If this isn't indicative of the arrogance, I don't know what is. Essure and the swine flu vaccine are examples of disasters in the last 10 years, but I'm guessing you're a lot more advanced now?

[syskerully]

I was thinking of polio and smallpox but fair enough. It is true that vaccines for some diseases like H1N1 aren't as effective as we would like but that really depends on the disease. If in the here and now there exists a covid vaccine with 95% efficacy, I suggest we all thank our luck and take it. If you'd like to opt out, that's your choice but I'll point out that it's a stupid choice.

[Levin]

@syskerully Efficacy doesn't bother me, safety does. In 2015, despite concerns, the UK regulator said that Essure was safe. Now a whole bunch of women are having to have hysterectomies. That's just one example I gave because it was on the news (fairly skirted over) a few weeks ago. There must be countless examples of that.

Your immune system should keep you safe 99.9%++ of times. Rather than wear masks, people should be told to lose the extra 30kg of weight they are carrying (here's an experiment, pick up and carry a 20kg weight plate with you all day, now just imagine what pressure the organs are under), some regular sustained cardiovascular exercise each and every day, walk preferably an hour a day, and totally transform their diet not eating the wholesale shit we eat. I wonder if that would cut deaths in the under 80s to about 10% of what it is now. Stupid idea, huh?

[syskerully]

What you're talking about only applies to people who have obesity issues, and who don't have other comorbidities.
Your 10% figure is at best arbitrary, at worst misleading. Immunity is gained after surviving a disease, and it does not take care of 99% of diseases. A lot of people throughout ancient and medieval history who had no chance of gaining extra weight, and who did more manual labour than the average person does today, died of diseases which modern medicine is now able to prevent. That's one of the reasons why the average life expectancy is much higher now than it used to be.
Lastly, nothing is a substitute for masks. Do not spread misinformation about this matter, it is actively costing lives. Do not use yourself, your lifestyle, unit access to healthcare or your health itself, as a metric to condemn those born to less fortunate bodies. Do not imply that people with asthma, cancer, and other comorbidities deserve to die if they can't get jacked and lose weight. Do not be in the same category as Donald Trump. Respect other people's right to life, because frankly, someone respects yours.

[angelgirl7]

No, not immediately anyway.
When I was younger Guardisil was a new vaccine that they were pushing girls my age to get. My pediatrician felt that there wasn't enough research done so he suggested waiting a year or two and then he started giving it to his patients, when he felt it was safe. I personally feel that they're rushing to get a vaccine out and fear there's not sufficient time to see what the long term affects are, if there's any.
I'm also taking into consideration that my uncle is a nurse, working the front lines, and also does not want the vaccine yet.
In the meantime I'm staying home, wearing my mask when out, and keeping my hands clean.

[Massageman]

I never buy a car the first year a new model comes out either.

[Brian___1731]

The problem here is that world is diverse, meaning we have different genes. So if one vaccine works for one kind of people doesn't mean it will work for other. This can also lead to future diseases and deformities of that kind of people aren't tested. Even if they are you can't gurantee how it will affect body in the future

[Danny_dan92]

True, very true. But I’m definitely confident due to the fact that medicine now. Is much more sophisticated than it was back then

[Brian___1731]

That is true, if it was 1900s or 1800s it would have taken more time like plague and Spanish fever proved

[ohshee]

Can I ask you something and I know you probably wouldn't tell me any way but I will ask

Push come to shove when it comes time for us little people to take the shot and we say no. Well that's when shit will hit the fan you guys will be called in the goverment is your boss and I thing that in time a war between OUR ARMED FORCES AND US THE LITTLE PEOPLE will fight so if that's the case are you going to kill your own people because u work for the government or would you move to the little people side

[fashionguy17]

Everytime I think of the vaccine, I am reminded of this Rick and Morty episode:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/aaxgO1gTDiA

In this episode of Rick and Morty, Rick "cures" everyone and ends up turning humanity into monsters XD! I am alluding this episode, because this obviously won't happen; however, I am going to wait 3 months before taking the vaccine. I just want to see how people are reacting to it and see if people are getting sick or not from the vaccine. If everything looks good after 3 months, I'll go and take it.

[1truekhaleesi]

I'm in the healthcare industry so I don't have a choice. I am happily getting it because I believe in science and I desperately want to hug my family again.

[Anonymous]

Vaccines only prevent a disease from being active in the community if the vaccine is used by a certain minimum threshold of the population. It's not just stupid but selfishly dangerous to avoid vaccination.

Americas ridiculous paranoia and ignorance will make sure that this disease destroys thousands of lungs for years to come.

But in a country that lacks basic empathy and can't even conceive of a health care system that isn't profit motivated, I doubt they'll give a shit. They will scream "muh rights" to the bitter end.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

The vaccine will be FDA Approved before they place it on the market for doctors to use for their patients and by all means, I will take the vaccine, It's just like the flu vaccine I take every year and have no side effects?

[Danny_dan92]

Exactly

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

@Danny_dan92 👍

[Hannah591]

I will, largely because I work in the NHS and we're all expected to have it.

I don't believe all the vaccine conspiracy theory bullshit. It's worrying how misinformed people are. This is why science literacy and critical thinking skills should be paramount in schools.

[ItalianSausage]

I have a masters in cell & molecular biology and I can say, definitively and without a doubt after studying and working in immunology labs, that anti vaxxers are unequivocally the dumbest fucks in existence and should be euthanized for the public health risk they pose. There is zero evidence from literally hundreds of primary researchers the on ncbi. nlm. nih. gov PUBMED database that thiomersal or any other preservative contributes to autism spectrum disorders or any other disease in the SLIGHTEST.


About the time my kid got sick because some idiot’s kid didn’t get vaccinated is the time I’m kicking the dads ass.

[brennanhuff]

If this is that effective then shouldn't the vulnerable people just need to take it? Because even if some manage to get sick from it. They won't get it severe and mostly mild so it will hit them like a cold and be done and then have immunity. I'll take it if Cuomos, Fauci, Biden, Kamala and especially Bill Gates take it.

[genericname85]

i will not take a fucking vaccine that was tested for barely one instead of the normal 5-7 years for a disease that has a 99.9% survival rate. no sir. not even if it was tested for that long i'd take it when there's so little risk.

tetanus, rabies or all those other diseases that will kill you, sure. give me the vaccine. but covid or flu... that's ridiculous for anyone under 70 with a healthy immune system.

[Akshayjosh]

Everyone eventually will get it, as there will be increased confidence in people seeing others not getting ill or having any issues with it. The first month might see a less interest from people, but after that there will be a tsunami of people wanting to take it, mark my words

[douride2]

Yes as soon as the most vulnerable get it I will be in line for it. I want my life back to normal.

[purplepoppy]

I'm surprised that the military didn't come up with their own version. Guess there can't be many 80year-olds with underlying health conditions in the forces these days.

[Danny_dan92]

The military doesn’t make medications.

They get all their medicine the same way all hospitals and clinics do.

Only difference is that it is the government purchasing the medications and such from the companies that make them

[Danny_dan92]

And no, I’m saying that cause eventually I’m pretty sure I’ll be forced to take it.

This will probably happen once all the first responders and those that are at risk got the vaccine and it’s available for the rest of the population

[purplepoppy]

Historically disease has killed and put more troops out of action than battle. The military has always taken an active interest in disease control.

[Danny_dan92]

FUCK YES!! This is why I trust my government.

They once saved my life from a life threatening infection.

And the medication I was administered was produced by the same type of people that dedicate all their life to making medications to fight off illnesses and diseases

[Agape93]

Not until a better and more tested one comes out. As it is, they’re not well tested and with moderate to severe side effects.

[ThatQuietLass]

So, I'm pro vax, but I do want to see some more studies on it personally. I get they want to roll this out as soon as possible, especially with those that don't care about others, but some things will always take time.

[ThatQuietLass]

Alas. This fool is fine without God then.
Learn how to tap the caps lock key please. You look ridiculous

[genericname85]

the studies right now say they wanna survey the side-effects "while" the vaccination is going on. that sounds a lot like using humans as lab rats to me...

[Apple1996]

I litterally haven't had any shots since I was 8 years old so my plan is to pass up on this one too. My hubby and kids will most likely have to get it cause of work and school.

[jshm2]

Erm, you're aware nothing is going to change even if you take the shot, right?

The problem is not just the virus, but it's latency and long term effects on those who were exposed to it.

[Anonymous]

It's hard to know how safe it is with them rushing it.. but if i have to then i will take it. Im not gonna fight anyone over it. I've just heard it's had some awful side effects so far.

[Danny_dan92]

To be fair I’ve gotten some FUCKED UP shots... the small pox vaccine sucked ass.

And I’ve had different kinds of shots for influenza. Which is closely related to covid. And I got sick. So yeah, that’s natural when it comes to getting vaccinated

[Yaaten]

In other words, the "cure" is actually worse than the original illness it's trying to treat. That's rather ridiculous, don't you think?

[PhilEvans]

@Yaaten Yes you're right. A mild temperature and headache for a day or so is definitely worse than permanently degraded lung function, 6 months of fatigue or death.

[Danny_dan92]

Yeah I had pneumonia twice and bronchitis once.

And they both suck ass, covid apparently causes pneumonia which is one of the reasons why it has killed so many people

[Yaaten]

@PhilEvans No.

[docster]

Considering that it uses mRNA technology, no way in hell!