What do you think of animal slaughter in order us to eat?

[Vivaldi]

What do you think of animal slaughter in order us to eat?

[Cherry234]

I don't particularly like it but I'm not going to try to stop it. I don't really eat meat anyway except for fish. I'm not going to stop other people from eating any type of meat they want. It's their right. I just wish more people would at least reduce their consumption or choose to avoid factory farmed meat because of the way the animals are raised. It's a cruel system. We're omnivores so we're made to eat both plants and animals.

[Vivaldi]

https://youtu.be/Tf97xEzbzdM

[Anonymous]

I work in an abattoir. I cut them up and us the bolt gun. It's a good living and I get fresh steaks

[Vivaldi]

https://youtu.be/Tf97xEzbzdM

[Opinion Owner]

https://youtu.be/eWJ_FzyqfkI

[Vivaldi]

Did you watch my video?

[Phoenix98]

No different then animals killing other animals to eat it’s nature. Only difference is we use as much of the meat, hide, etc as possible.

I’ve seen animals give birth be killed by us and I’ve seen them killed by other animals in the wild.

[Vivaldi]

See it

https://youtu.be/mPSS292pTk0

[Phoenix98]

I’ve seen it before and also made it clear before that I don’t agree with the way they do it at some slaughter houses.

There are right and wrong ways to do it.

[jshm2]

As long as those animals are not pigs or people, I'll have it with Nando sauce.

[Vivaldi]

Did you ever watch terrible cow cutting videos?

[Vivaldi]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mPSS292pTk0

[Vivaldi]

Watch this

[ZSean]

Animals do it. We just so happen to have evolved to do it better and need to more.

If something were to evolve to our level. They would do the same.

I love animals but it is not like we do it just for the thrill. It is a needed process untill we find a 100% sustainable method to not have to.

And do not even bring up "vegan or fake meats". Lol that shit is not as sustaianble as people think.

[Vivaldi]

Watch it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mPSS292pTk0

[Flower7]

That’s natural. How do you think wild animals get their food?

[Vivaldi]

https://youtu.be/Tf97xEzbzdM

[Flower7]

So I’m guessing you’re a vegetarian?

[Vivaldi]

I am guessing you didn't watch the video.

[Birdlegs]

Do I like it? No
Can I stop them? No
Will I stop eating it? No
It’s the circle of life Im just glad I’m not the one doing the slaughtering

[Vivaldi]

https://youtu.be/Tf97xEzbzdM

[sirderpsalot123]

I'm ok with it. Animals kill other animals for food, why shouldn't we? It's the circle of life. I'm not going to feel guilty about it.

And yes, I DON'T agree with the way some slaughter houses go about it, before you link me the video...

[Vivaldi]

https://youtu.be/Tf97xEzbzdM

[Vivaldi]

Another video

[ArtemisSilver]

I've been more and more disgusted with things like bone in ham lately.

I think the quality is slipping to keep costs down and I'm not enjoying it.

Been eating more plant and dairy based protein lately.

[Cherry234]

Are you vegetarian or are you transitioning to vegetarianism?

[ArtemisSilver]

Nope, just been put off by high meat prices, and the low quality stuff on the market.

[Cherry234]

Oh okay.

[exitseven]

I try not to think about it while I polish off a nice prime Rib.

[3Andronicus]

I don't have an issue with it. We're omnivores, not rabbits or sheep, so we have to eat meat.

[Vivaldi]

https://youtu.be/Tf97xEzbzdM

[3Andronicus]

A video I can't access. How about you just TELL ME what you want to say, instead of being so lazy that you just link to a video.

[Vivaldi]

Action speaks louder than words.

Don't you have a youtube account?

[3Andronicus]

I don't have a YouTube account. What is the video about?

[Vivaldi]

If you have a Youtube account, you can watch 18 plus videos.

[3Andronicus]

Genesis 9:3. Read what it says.

[Vivaldi]

The cow gets on its feet after its head is cut, staying alive.

[3Andronicus]

What? No. It basically tells us that we can eat anything we choose, because it all belongs to us.

[3Andronicus]

Oh, you mean the video I can't access because I don't have a YouTube account, and don't want to get one just to see some gory video of yours.

[Vivaldi]

The cow gets on its feet after its throat is cut, staying alive.

[Vivaldi]

That is my glory video.

[3Andronicus]

Yes, and I'm not at all interested in it.

[Vivaldi]

So you dont care if they are tortured like that?

Do you only care if if you are tortured?

[Vivaldi]

Does your God give you right to torture animals?

[Vivaldi]

I expalined what happens on the video.

[3Andronicus]

Um... what? Did you say something? Like I said before, I can't access the video, so how can I comment on it? Hmm?

[Vivaldi]

I explained what happens on the video.

I think you understood what happens on the video.

[3Andronicus]

I haven't seen the video.

[3Andronicus]

And I refuse to judge what happens based upon your word, because I'm not the type of person to do that. Too many people these days like to exaggerate and outright lie in order to promote their agendas.

[Vivaldi]

On Youtube, there are lots of videos but 18 plus. So a youtube account is needed.

[Vivaldi]

I don't believe in religions by the way.

[3Andronicus]

Whatever.

[Twalli]

We're omnivores so eating meat makes sense

[Vivaldi]

The point is how they are tortured.

[Twalli]

If it's in a slaughterhouse, it's pretty humane

[Vivaldi]

https://youtu.be/Tf97xEzbzdM

[Twalli]

I don't know how it is in other countries, I was speaking about it in the US

[boggboss]

Meh it is as it is

[Vivaldi]

Watch it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mPSS292pTk0

[boggboss]

I watched it killing it so it can be halal or however u spell it

[Vivaldi]

That is torturing.

[boggboss]

Yeah wouldn't wanna be the cow but people do worst to eachother so nothing new

[Aiko_E_Lara]

A way of life.

[Vivaldi]

Watch it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mPSS292pTk0

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And i've seen it in real life. I don't have any hard feelings towards it.

[Vivaldi]

Wouid you want to be in the place of the cow?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

No. I'm a human. But if you wanna be a cow and support then, go eat grass all day.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And wait for predators to kill you

[Vivaldi]

They feel pain like humans too. You dont know that?

[Vivaldi]

You have a right to torture animals, huh?

[Vivaldi]

My question was, would you like to be tortured like that?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And so does insect you kill bug sprays. Yes we have the rights to do that because we're humans. So you really like to treat cows like humans then i suppose you may employ them, give them a job and let them pay taxes and rent like what humans do. What's stopping you tho?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And my question was, do you like to eat grass all day?

[Vivaldi]

İncents are simple living beings. Nothing like a cow.

https://youtu.be/Tf97xEzbzdM

[Vivaldi]

You okay with this?

[Vivaldi]

You okay with torturing cows?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You okay with letting them live in a society and letting them pay rent and tax? You okay with eating grass all day?

[Vivaldi]

This is torturing.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Then if cows are simple living beings than humans aren't simple living beings there for cows are not given humans. I don't like to be tortured that's why I don't live the jungle. I live in a society.

[Vivaldi]

If you'll kill, you'll kill quick. Not like that.

[Vivaldi]

Insects are simple living beings. They dont have skeleton, brain, etc.

[Vivaldi]

Cows aren't simple living beings. Simple animals like insects are.

[Vivaldi]

How do you compare an insect with a cow? Are you crazy?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And there you are comparing a cow to a human. What a hypocrite you are

[Aiko_E_Lara]

If cows are not simple living beings then give them jobs and let them pay for rent and let them live in your apartment or whatever if you want them to live.

[Vivaldi]

You know very well what it is meant by simple living beings. I speak for insects.

[Vivaldi]

An insect doesn't have advanced pain receptors like a cow has.

[Vivaldi]

Besides, when I hit an insect, it dies right away.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

An insect still feel pain regardless and they do suffer slowly if you use bug spray on them. Still do if you don't want me to compare a bug to a cow then don't compare a cow to a human. Unless you want to prove to me what a big hypocrite you are

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And no matter what you do you will never convince me to stop eating beef.

[Vivaldi]

A cow is a mammal. So is a human.

[Vivaldi]

Can't you fucking see how those cows on the videos are tortured?

[Vivaldi]

Biologically, a cow is much closer to a human than a bug. Lol.

Bugs dont have things mammals have.

You are so brainwashed with religion.

[Vivaldi]

You see how badly they are tortured on the video and you are pretty okay with them being tortured like that.

Do you notice how long they stay alive being tortured on videos?

[Vivaldi]

Fuck you. My last word.

[Vivaldi]

The thing is you are pretty much okay with these videos, right?

You feel nothing for animals while how badly they are tortured on these videos. On Youtube comments, most people are cursing about how much pain they are giving them.

Unless it is your head, no problem. Right?

[Vivaldi]

You might as well just burn the animals alive because it is not important how painfully they may die.

[Vivaldi]

I am not trying to convince you not to eat.

The point is, how terribly and painfully they are getting killed and you are okay with that.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

But are they civilized is the question? You know what else is a mammal? A rat. Yet rat traps and poisons exist. And I've already told you I've seen it in person and I've also seen lions killing a cow. So what are you going to do are you going to do? Police those predators living in the wild? Good luck with that. At this point you have no real argument but you're just arguing with your feelings. You think guilt-tripping anyone is really going to work? Good luck telling that to billions of people in this planet who still eat meat. Also Argumentum ad ignorantiam is a logical fallacy. "Fuck you" is your last word you say yet you still continue being a blabbermouth. You sure don't know what you're saying. I've already said it multiple times yes I'm okay with those videos because I eat cows. I don't want to be tortured like them that's why I don't live in the jungle or in the Wilds. That's why I have a job in a society. If you really like to treat cows like equals to humans, then let them live in a society and give them a living like humans do and see how it turns out.

[Vivaldi]

They don't have to be tortured this way. As I said, you might as well burn animals alive if you are okay with those painful ways of killing.

[Vivaldi]

So if they are not civilized, torture them, huh?

[Vivaldi]

You have no fucking right to torture them.

If you are eating, you won't kill by torturing them.

You are too stupid to get the point?

[Vivaldi]

The very fucking point of this point is, how terribly they kill them.

[Vivaldi]

The very fucking point of this thread is, how terribly they kill them.

And you are so fucking okay with the way it is.

[Vivaldi]

My point is they should not be tortured like that. Most people see it.

[Vivaldi]

You dont see it.

[Vivaldi]

I am not okay with the way they do it.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Not because they are not civilized but because we eat them for food. I'm calling someone stupid just because you think you're right doesn't automatically make you correct. There is no nice way of killing animals just like how other predators eat other animals. If you are not okay with the way they do with then speak for yourself.

[Vivaldi]

So these are the ways to do it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb7ZIhYNQRY

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You still wanna continue repeating what you said? That's not changing anything.

[Vivaldi]

Do you even watch?

[Vivaldi]

I guess you are a sadist.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Then for that, you're a sociopath who can't mind your own business.

[Vivaldi]

You watch those videos, don't you?

If you are okay with those videos, you are a sadist.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

For repeating what you said and keeping on pushing your agenda into someone else, then that makes you a sociopath.

[Vivaldi]

My agenda?

That is terrible how they torture cows on the videos I post.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You view it as torture just don't give yourself an excuse to not mind your own business. Like what I said you keep repeating what you said saying it is terrible but that doesn't exactly change anything

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I'm OK with it.

[Vivaldi]

You okay with this?

https://youtu.be/Tf97xEzbzdM