Do you think slaughters houses are immoral and why do people still choose to eat meat anyways?

[CAPTAIN-OBVIOUS]

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Yes, this is wrong and must be stopped.

No, they taste too good.

[Shamalien]

There is no justified moral argument for eating meat in a non survival situation. We don’t require it

[bayoubob]

We are always in a survival situation. PETA, stands for People Eating Tasty Animals. We need people to get out of their comfort zone. We need you to pick up a 22 magnum and blow out a cow's head. We need kids doing that. If they can eat it? They can kill it. But you eat plants? Plants are life. Why is it right to eat plants?

[bayoubob]

I mean seriously. Everything eaten on this planet is life. Oh, but plants don't have nervous systems? They do. Trees and plants do a thing. They tend to their young. They tend to their like, they tend to the plants and trees dying via their supplements going to the needy. Plants and trees are Communists.

[bayoubob]

And you have no problem with eating them.

[bamesjond0069]

Why would it have to be "required"? To justify it?

[Shamalien]

@bamesjond0069 one should not put suffering into the world needlessly

[bamesjond0069]

Says who? Seems like an opinion. One of millions and one that most people don't agree with.

[Shamalien]

@bamesjond0069 do what you will and enjoy the consequences

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

No. Nothing wrong with eating meat. Abusing animals like the damn Chinese do it is what immoral is.

[Hello4242]

You don’t think there is anything morally wrong with slaughterhouses?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Hello4242: No, but it has to be done very quick without the animal suffering.

[bayoubob]

@Hello4242 No. Do you think eating plant life is morally right?

[NamerOfStars]

Goodness, no- we need to pick up the slack for all the predators we killed. What do you think happens if the prey animals have no checks on their population? They breed out of control, consume all available food, and then die out because they all starve. THAT is cruelty. If we're going to have something eating them, they might as well be killed quickly and with a minimum of unpleasantness, no?

And if you're going to argue that killing to eat is wrong regardless, then what makes animals so much better than plants?

[Paul09]

All animals have a purpose here. Humans do not .

[NamerOfStars]

@Paul09 And humans are, what, plants now? We have MORE of a purpose than other animals do.

[Hello4242]

While I understand your concern about the population control of prey animals, I must point out that your argument contains a logical fallacy known as a false dilemma. There are other options available to manage predator populations sustainably without resorting to killing them. For example, we can implement non-lethal methods like relocation or fencing to keep predators away from livestock. We can also work towards restoring natural habitats, which would provide a balanced ecosystem where predators and prey can coexist. Your argument also contains a slippery slope fallacy by suggesting that if we don't kill predators, prey animals will inevitably overbreed and die of starvation. The reality is that ecological systems are complex and have natural checks and balances that regulate populations. Therefore, we must consider multiple options before concluding that killing predators is the only solution.

[NamerOfStars]

@Hello4242 I wasn't suggesting that we kill more predators, simply noting that we HAD.

[WindAtMyBack]

Humans are meat eaters. Mass production techniques are not because people eat meat. It's because the world is vastly over populated with people. Whether they eat meat of veggies, it has an effect.

With the possible exception of some tropical climates, the only way to be vegetarian is to exploit invasive species. That's the only realistic way to get decent nutrition, because you can't do it with native plants.

[Paul09]

If "humans" are meat eaters, then where are out k9 sharp teeth, to dig into raw flesh. Like actually predators have..

[WindAtMyBack]

@Paul09
Read the second paragraph. It's not possible for humans to naturally be vegetarians and to flourish and populate the planet like they did. Or maybe you think you can walk outside in Canada and survive without eating meat. You'll die if you try it. The only reason why you can be vegetarian in most of the world is because food is shipped in from vast distances. There is nothing natural about that.

[Hello4242]

Numerous studies have shown that a well-planned vegetarian or vegan diet can provide all the necessary nutrients for a healthy life. Furthermore, the argument ignores the fact that the current meat-based food system is not sustainable and has a significant impact on the environment. Animal agriculture is a major contributor to greenhouse gas emissions, deforestation, water pollution, and other environmental issues. Moreover, the argument wrongly assumes that the only way to survive in Canada, or any other place, is by consuming meat. In reality, there are many plant-based sources of protein and other essential nutrients that can sustain human life, such as legumes, nuts, seeds, and grains. Lastly, your argument ignores the fact that shipping food from long distances is not the only way to access plant-based food. In many places, including Canada, there are local and seasonal sources of plant-based foods that can provide a healthy and sustainable diet.

In conclusion, the argument presented by the person is flawed and ignores the scientific evidence and the sustainability issues associated with the current meat-based food system. It is possible for humans to thrive on a plant-based diet and make sustainable food choices without relying on long-distance transportation.

[WindAtMyBack]

@Hello4242
You obviously didn't read what I said, so I won't bother repeating it.

If you are so confident in your belief, then walk outside in Canada and see if you can survive the winter without eating meat.

[Hello4242]

Never said I wouldn’t eat meat in a survival scenario.

[Hello4242]

urviving on native plants during the winter in Canada without eating meat can be a challenging task. However, with some preparation and knowledge, it is possible to meet your nutritional needs.

Learn about the native plants in your area: Do some research or consult with a local expert to learn about the edible plants in your region. Some common examples of edible plants in Canada include wild berries, nuts, and roots such as cattails, wild garlic, and wintergreen.
Stock up on non-perishable foods: During the winter, fresh produce can be hard to come by. Therefore, it is important to stock up on non-perishable foods like dried fruits, nuts, and seeds.
Preserve food: Learn to preserve food to have it for the winter. Canning, dehydrating, fermenting, and freezing are all effective ways to preserve fruits and vegetables.
Consider foraging: Foraging can be an excellent way to supplement your diet with fresh food during the winter. However, it's important to be cautious and only eat plants that you know are safe and edible.
Combine plant-based foods to get complete proteins: While it's true that plant-based foods don't provide complete proteins on their own, combining certain foods can help you meet your protein needs. For example, combining beans and rice or quinoa and vegetables can provide all the essential amino acids your body needs.
Take vitamin and mineral supplements: Even with a well-planned plant-based diet, it can be difficult to get all the necessary vitamins and minerals. Consider taking supplements to ensure you're getting enough of these essential nutrients.

Surviving in Canada during the winter is possible, just takes research and preparation.

[WindAtMyBack]

@Hello4242
The topic was what humans are naturally. Natural means you can walk outside and survive on what you can find, plant or whatever. Throughout human history, and even proto human history, humans have eaten meat to survive.

[Hello4242]

Yes, but it is also true that human have survived ok plants alone. New research found we we were cooking root veggies 160,000 years ago.

According to the article, scientific evidence suggests that our human ancestors were mostly vegetarians. The author cites research that shows that early humans evolved to eat plant-based diets and relied on hunting only as a secondary food source. Additionally, the article notes that our closest primate relatives, who are primarily herbivores, provide further evidence that humans are biologically adapted to eating plants.

[WindAtMyBack]

@Hello4242
You forget that the secondary food source is meat. Meat is extremely nutritious and it doesn't take much. A small amount of meat has as much nutrition as a large amount of veggies, fruit, etc.

The reason meat is so much more nutritious is because many animals are WAY better at foraging than humans. Humans suck at it because that's not how they evolved. Many animals take what is poor quality food for humans, and turn it into high quality food. Someone can hunt a deer and get a huge amount of nutrition from just one deer. Deer are very good at foraging because they were designed for it. If humans somehow managed to survive in the same environment as deer, they sure wouldn't be healthy and thrive. They sure wouldn't have a large population. The deer is specialized to live like that, humans are not.

What you are doing is cherry picking. Sure it's possible, but only under limited ideal circumstances.

[Hello4242]

While it is true that meat is a rich source of protein, vitamins, and minerals, it is not the only food that can provide these nutrients. In fact, many plant-based foods such as legumes, nuts, and seeds also contain high amounts of protein, vitamins, and minerals. Furthermore, plant-based foods are often rich in fiber and phytonutrients, which have been linked to a reduced risk of chronic diseases such as heart disease and cancer.

Additionally, the argument that humans are not designed to forage for food is not entirely accurate. While it is true that humans have evolved to rely on agriculture and animal husbandry, this does not mean that we are unable to obtain all necessary nutrients from plant-based sources. In fact, many cultures throughout history have thrived on predominantly plant-based diets.

Lastly, while it is true that hunting and consuming wild game can be a source of nutrition, it is important to acknowledge the environmental impact of large-scale meat production. The consumption of meat has been linked to deforestation, greenhouse gas emissions, and other environmental issues.

[Hello4242]

Also, consuming too much meat, particularly red and processed meat, has been linked to negative health effects. The World Health Organization (WHO) has classified processed meat as a Group 1 carcinogen, meaning that there is sufficient evidence to conclude that it causes cancer in humans. Red meat has been classified as a Group 2A carcinogen, meaning that it is probably carcinogenic to humans.

Studies have shown that a high intake of red and processed meat is associated with an increased risk of several types of cancer, including colorectal, pancreatic, and prostate cancer. Moreover, excessive consumption of meat has been linked to an increased risk of heart disease, stroke, and type 2 diabetes.

[Paul09]

You make it sound like we still live in caveman times. Meat was for survival. What survival are you doing today? Work for money and buy food at grocery store? Plus we can grow a lot of food at home and Indoors. In the end we can agree that humans are problematic to this planet.

[BeMuse]

Nope. People have to eat. Humans are omnivore.

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[AviatorTom]

Human beings are omnivores, which means that we eat meat and plants. Biologically, we need both, and our bodies difficulty surviving on just one or the other.

[Paul09]

False. Maybe for a minority. But for the majority, that's false. If you were right, how am I still standing? Where are my muscle coming from? How an I fit and active? Knowledge and opinions are 2 huge different things.

[LiamJHayden]

People are omnivores. It is no more immoral for humans to eat meat than it is for any other meat-eating mammal.

Factory farms, though, are pretty disgusting.

[DizzyDesii]

I only think its wrong if they were treated as a pet first. Dont lead them on just to chop them up.

[Agape93]

Nope, and because meat is delicious and we are biologically meant to eat anything.

[Paul09]

After all the spices and sauces that cover your meat. Im sure you bite into raw flesh straight off a animal. 😂 "Meant" .

[Agape93]

I have before. Usually liver or heart. Nice try. You're welcome to drown your food in shit, but we don't all need to or want to.

[Paul09]

One of us have empathy, while the other doesn't.

[Sasahara]

@Paul09 And the one with empathy is not the one claiming humanity is stuck in the caveman era just because other people eat meat.

[FeelingGroovy]

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[douride2]

So far it seems 75% of respondents myself included disagree with you. We eat meat because we are omnivores & meat tastes good.

[Paul09]

1000% yes. That's why I stopped years ago. My empathy and knowledge kept growing. Said F U to gluttony. We do not "need" meat. Just because we can eat it, doesn't mean we should.

[humanearth]

Nope, I butcher my own meat. PETA stands for People Eating Tasty Animals

[Anonymous]

We've been eating meat for 2 million years is why.

[Paul09]

Because humans are still stuck in caveman era. And because meat makes a ton of money for farmers and governments... So you are blinded with "but it tastes so good".

[Opinion Owner]

@Paul09 evolution is evolution

[Anonymous]

No and it's delicious as well as nutritious

Soon when the culls come human will be sold as hamburger

[exitseven]

This little piggy went to market.