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An example, for years scientists claimed that the sperm cell's tails wiggled side to side but they discovered that they actually move their tail in a circular motion so how many of these do you think there is that we are going to discover later on?
How many discoveries do you think are incorrect?
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Probably many, that's the great thing about science, new information is discovered or corrected and we become much more aware of understanding the topic.
Yep, sucks for the people that gotta change the textbooks for students 😂
Typically why new editions come out all the time and why many fields have to brush up on their studying even after graduating
Yea that's crazy
It's not crazy, it's sane. Crazy is ignoring new evidence.
A lot of them, unfortuntely scientists don't always stick to strict science, and veer off into assumptions a lot.
I try to avoid doing that when possible, sometimes there isn't just enough evidence to say either way on something.
I thought every result was tested many times before they publicize or announce anything
Thats how it's supposed to work, that is how it works when they follow procedure.
However, unfortunately, most study findings are not replicable
What is unfortunately common, is the methodology for the testing itself being flawed, because they are basing it on prior assumptions or misunderstandings of the evidence and other flawed studies.
www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39054778
The problem is scientists are cutting corners, they are not doing their jobs properly, and they are letting money, lazy research, and ego ruin their studies. Just like most jobs, the standards for being hired and kept as a scientist, have fallen greatly.
I didn't know that but it makes sense at the end of the day, scientists are people too so them getting lazy was something I should've expected tbh
Yep. I like to hold myself to a higher standard, but not every person interested in science does. Its much rarer than I'd hoped... And it makes my job that much harder..
Wait you are a scientist?
I don't get paid to be one, but in practice yes.
I also don't get paid to make art or music either, but that hasn't stopped me.
I could go on, I have a bad habit of learning how to do things for fun.
You don't gotta be getting paid to be considered a scientist in my book, if you seek new knowledge, that makes you a scientist, so what you study?
Medicine, nutrition, biology, animal care, evolutionary phylogeny, and astronomy mostly.
Would you mind studying a drug for me?
It's a new "controlled substance" in the market and I've smoked a lot of it and after a few months I would feel pain in the lung area when I would laugh or chuckle and I want to know what this crap has
They have lab tests but I don't trust them, I want a nonbias person that isn't just greedy to tell me the truth about this substance, it's a drug made from cannaboinoids from the cannabis plant but it's not thc, they modify cbd with other cannaboinoids to create this lab made fake thc, they call it delta 8 thc, I don't know if you've heard of it but it's new, no one knows anything about it, or barely anything, it gets you high like thc but less potent but it's not thc, it's legal in my state to buy, I don't know about where you live tho
I don't do recreational drugs, my expertise is in anti-aging, but lung problems are very common when you inhale carbon. It is advised that you do not smoke anything, and I would go get checked for lung cancer, asthma, emphysema, popcorn lung, or any other lung problems.
Well the pain went away cause I stopped smoking it, it's regenerating right now, cause my breathing has gotten better as well, anti aging sounds interesting, you should get into cloning cells as well
That plant is neurotoxic, it's why it does what it does in the brain, but any kind of smoke is bad for the lungs, lab made or not, its unsafe. Lab results are worth getting, as are x-rays of your chest. I do not have that kind of lab equipment.
I believe it's got similarities right
I want to get into cloning entire species.
You heard of those waxworms that eat plastic and poop alcohol, you should study them things
Other scientists believe it might have a type of bacteria that can eat and dissolve plastic but they are still pretty clueless on how they work but it can save us from pollution if it is bacteria, they can breed it, multiply it and use it to eat away plastic
I do know about those, fun fact, the fake sugar in certain softdrinks is bacteria feces.
I believe at some point in the future they might even make it to the point they have like spray bottles of this stuff, not to mention they aren't even sure on what they can use that alcohol for, it's a different type of alcohol that it poops, not the ones we use on the everyday basis I don't think, forgot the name
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You know I could've lived my whole life without knowing that fact bro 😂😂
Algae is the biggest absorber of C02, certain bacteria absorb methane as well.
You aren't talking about those little packets of sweetener for the coffee right? 🙃
What do they do with the CO2?
Can you guess which bacteria feces it is? I'll give you a hint, they make fun of it in GTA 5 by putting it on cola trucks.
No i'm talking about aspartame in soda.
No it's not... 😀🔫
Algae are single cell plants, they breath in carbon dioxide and breathe out oxygen just like other plants do.
E. coli?
Oh, but it is lol
Our breathing is reversed, fascinating, e breathing oxygen and breath out co2 and they breath in co2 and breath out oxygen wow
I'm done drinking sodas and sticking to real sugar lmao
And yes, aspartame is e. coli shit.
I'm gonna ruin so many people's day with that one 😂
Is their crap harmful?
I'm pretty good at ruining things, like how dementia means souls can't exist.
Think about it, if your ability to think doesn't require a brain, your brain degrating wouldn't effect your mind.
degrading*
I still believe in a soul cause something must power the brain, the brain can't power itself now could it
Yea the brain powers everything else but what makes the brain healthy, the heart rushes the blood, the brain controls everything but what maintains the brain alive, a soul no?
I'm not sure if e. coli poop is harmful after its reached the point of being put in drinks. they poop mostly sugar, but the bacteria itself can kill people. Its one of those things that doesn't seem worth the risk, but aspartame doesn't seem to do much thats measurable in day to day life.
It only makes sense that something that comes out of something harmful is harmful as well lol
If souls kept brains alive, you'd never die. Food and water keeps your brain alive, it keeps everything alive.
You were built by food and water your mom ate editing a sperm and egg into an entire person, never underestimate the power of what you eat.
Yea but the first humans were created with a soul when God breathed into their nostril, how did the first humans form then 🙃
I know I was made by my mom but what about the first living beings, you are telling me they had a different way they got created
Would it make more sense if God a higher power created this life and they started multiplying? Or did the big bang create the first humans as well?
Or germs?
Somehow we exist
No, I'm saying that if food can literally build your entire body, people need to take it more seriously as medicine, and stop relying so much on drugs.
Well I can definitely agree with you on that cause food is important, but what are the odds all of existence and our logic and physics and everything we know just happened by accident, how our bodies work, how our bodies are self regenerating all the unexplainable, the planets the way we keep plants alive and they keep us alive, the way everything we have on this planet gives us nutrition and helps us, it's all working so perfectly that it's hard to believe it all happened by accident in an explosion
It's easier for me to believe theirs a higher power and a powerful mind that put it all together, emotions is another thing, what do we really know about them besides the fact that we have them
The Bible tells me that emotions come from God because we were build in his image, we share the same emotions as him
What about the air we breathe it's a mix of like 3 gases I think, that happened by accident too?, the perfect percentage of each gas that keeps us alive, one thing would be if it was 100% oxygen but the fact that its not really should show something, personally to me it's hard to believe anything else than the existance of a God
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying science is bull cause I know for a fact it's not but science basically explains the logic of what's already here, science didn't create everything
I personally believe the big bang is one of the things science got wrong, I didn't want to get Into the spiritual topic cause I didn't want to make you think I'm shoving my believes down your throat but you spoke of souls and I couldn't help myself 😆
Souls can't exist because degenerative brain diseases exist.
Gods can't exist because omnipotence and the begining of the universe are impossible.
Heaven and hell can't exist because bodies stay put, souls don't exist, amd pleasure/torture requires a working body because you need a nervous system to think or feel anything.
You are worried about who or what created everything, but the universe always existed.
You cannot create something that is infinite. The infinite creates everything else.
In spirituality diseases and illnesses come from negative influences, I don't know what I had in my lung but I prayed and it seems to be healing, I haven't been to a doctor in 9 years and I've smoked weed, delta 8, carts (electronic thc cartridges) vapes with nicotine, tabacco, hemp, I straight up mutted it no lie, not the first time God pulled me out the gutter, he saved me from getting arrested as well, got my bro out of jail, help my other bro fight his extreme cases of paranoia, let my father live when that Corona had him in bed for 2 months, my mom cared for him with no protection and she never caught it (mom was the most spiritually strong in the fam) so it made sense, whenever I pray to remove my negative emotions I get a thrill of happiness, our prayers get answered, with God for life 💯🙏
Personally my mind will never change on God, had too many spiritual guidance to believe anything else, call out to him and watch him answer. 💯
Somehow, not the way you expect, he not gonna be like "yea I'm here bro" lol
But you'll get it when it happens, it's unexplainable in words
Illness comes from either something you are exposed to in your environment, or a problem in your genetic makeup. Also go to a doctor, you probably have a lot of problems you don't even know about.
Healing from damage is what the body does on it's own, provided it has enough nutrients to do so, and the source of the damage is removed, and the damage is not too severe. it will do this whether you pray or not, however with your history and age, you are definitely not healthy right now, even if you feel better than you did before.
God did not do any of those things because there isn't a god. Most people live after contracting covid19, it's less lethal than the flu, its just more contageous than it. it also does not last 2 months, so either is caused a secondary problem, or he had some other infection instead of, or on top of covid.
I never got the shot, and never got covid, natural immunity to flu like viruses is common.
You get a thrill of happiness from praying because you genuinely believe on nonsense.
You haven't had any spiritual guidance, and if you are hearing a voice in your head, go to the doctor.
I'll take my chances and trust in God, I enjoyed our conversation tho man, it was good, I appreciate the time you took bro, I'm on a trip so I might lose reception and stuff, we can continue when I get somewhere lol
Nah, I'm honestly not interested in continuing this conversation, I prefer talking to intelligent people, not people who refuse to acknowledge evidence because "my beliefs though".
Trust is not a measuring tool for reality.
I don't see the reason why you gotta insult but alright, good day bro
Being critical of things and questioning the validity of them is the foundation of science, what you see as an insult, I see as a correction/lesson. Good day.
You basically called me a dumb ass indirectly, since when is having a belief a bad thing, your response rubbed me off wrong that's all.
Having a belief is always a bad thing, you either understand something, or you don't, choosing to rely on trust as a source for inormation IS dumb, but you have a brain, you can choose to be dumb, or choose to be smart.
If everyone is accepting of being dumb, almost no one would bother to learn anything and become smart. So it SHOULD rub you the wrong way, and it should light a fire under your ass to better yourself. But it probably won't, because you are too scared to prove yourself wrong.
Science is about proving your own ideas wrong. I do it all the time, because I do not let ego get in the way of learning, and I do not feel better relying on trust. I need to know, or I need to admit I don't know but might later, nothing else is acceptable.
Ego? I think your ego is active right now bro, because if you really wanted proof of God, you would've tried what I said but I know you didn't cause you don't want to believe, there's a difference, if you really weren't bias you'd want to find out but you don't want too cause you want to believe there's no God cause your ego can't handle the existance of a higher power, don't tell me it's what I said was dumb and that's why you didn't do it, because if you were a scientist that wants to really discover you would've tried it, you are letting your ego stop you from discovering the existance of God, you are being a hypocrite by trying to call out my ego that I kept in control by the way because I've been nothing but respectful to you and I can pick up a judgeful vibe off you, a bias vibe, I know you are trying to hide it but I can feel your ego eating at you with every reply dude, it looks like it bother you that I believe, if you don't want to believe then alright but don't act like you aren't being neglectful about believing in a God because you are, you must not know the definition of ego, believe or faith, because you are confusing the three, faith is being 100% certain of a certain reality, after all you believe that is that way, just how the possibility of me being wrong, you have the same possibility of your beliefs being wrong, it's 50% 50% to the general but it's 100% to me just how your beliefs is 100% certain to you.
Do I have to mention you also mentioned scientist collect false information all the time on your reply to my question, there's not one contradiction in the Bible yet you contradicted yourself by saying you believe in something that people take the lazy way out and spread false information.
It is dumb. And that IS why I don't believe in it.
I do not have an ego, I simply am a stickler for accuracy. And science is never wrong, only the people who attempt to do science, but do it incorrectly, are wrong, or who do it correctly, but misunderstsand the outcomes, because those particular people have comprehension skills that are too poor to understand the scientific method, or they are greedy, lazy, or letting faith/trust/assumptions, or personal agendas, pollute their findings.
They are being "religious" about their studies, so they fail at it, but none the less publish their findings. If we started to shun scientists trusting sources (ie having faith in other scientist's work rather than just doing the science themselves and demanding to see the evidence), then scientific studies would contain far less bullshit studies, because they would have the belief aspects of the studies removed.
Proof a god cannot exist:
A god can be defined as either an omnipotent being, or the creator of everything, or both.
Lets tackle 1 at a time.
Defnition 1: A god is an omnipotent being.
So lets examine whether omnipotence is possible or not, we will use allegory for this.
Omnipotence is the ability to do anything. But we will soon see why thats impossible.
Can god create something so heavy, that god can't lift it?
If the answer is yes, then god is not omnipotent because they can't lift it.
If the answer is no, then god is still not omnipotent, because they can't create it.
Reality has opposites, these opposites present limitations, so omnipotence cannot exist because it is a self contradicting concept.
Definition 2: A god is a creator of everything.
This is also a self contractiction, we will use a simple example for this.
Scientist: The universe does not need to be created to exist.
Religious Zealot: Yes it does.
Scientist: Howcome?
Religious Zealot: Because something can't exist from nothing, everything had to be created by something.
Scientist: Then what created god?
Religious Zealot: Nothing, god always existed.
Scientist: Didn't you just say nothing can exist without being created, and that this is your reasoning behind why a god has to exist?
Religious Zealot: ...
Scientist: Also, the idea of a begining to the universe makes no sense even if you don't think something can come from nothing, as you are just going to be stuck asking what created the thing that created the thing that created the thing, endlessly backwards, so either way, you are left with an infinite universe, and it will contradict creationism. And if you define the universe as everything anywhere to have ever existed, then it is infinite in size too, on top of existing for an infinite amount of time. Nothing can create infinity, nothing is more vast or more capable than infinity, infinity is at the top of the teir list.
Also bibles have more contradictions in them than any other religious text. Even as just a fictional story for entertainment purposes. They are terrible, full of conceptual contradictions, continuity contradictions, mechanical contradictions, message contradictions, character condtradictions, and so on.
Your only lying to yourself, at the end of the day your choices don't effect me, but when you find yourself in front of God, this conversation might come up, it's a waste of time to speak to someone that is stuck in denial about even accepting that you have an ego, even your science admits everyone has an ego so you aren't even following your own believes dude, you are full of hypocrisy and denial, let's not mention the universe is huge and science isn't even a spec close to catching up to all the information in the universe so you created a whole reality out of the little bits of information that you gathered on just one planet, my believes expand past the universe where a God exists, your whole believes depends on other humans which are known to me imperfect.
And name a contradiction in the Bible?
I'll be waiting for your response
I'm involved in technology, ecology, medicine, and science, so my choices actually do effect you, as do the choices of most scientists, unless you forget how the piece of tech you are using to even talk to me, is made by scientists, or how you live in an environment, or eat food you take out of a fridge.
The only thing in this convo that does not effect your life, is god and souls.
You are the one stuck in denial, living in your imaginary fantasy land while ignoring any evidence that proves your assumptions wrong.
The universe is infinite, because both creationism and nothingness are self contradicting, so they can't exist, so all thats left as a possibility is an infnite universe, and infinity has no starting point in time or in space.. Deductive reasoning is a valuable skill... there is nothing past the universe, there is no "past" it at all, its just more of the same universe no matter where you go or what there is.
Your idea that perfection is required for understanding is incorrect, also a solo scientist can figure this stuff out on their own, its done all the time, just because some people are lazy about obtaining data, does not mean we all are, not does it remove the existence of peer review, or did you not notice it was other scientists that were pointing out the failings of their peer's studies? Whereas religious people like yourself generally cannot tell evidence from bs? Your argument is like saying TVs don't work because you don't know how to build one. Your entire way of thinking is flawed. So you are right, talking to me is useless, for you, but to anyone else looking at this convo, maybe not.
Either way, this convo is over, i'm blocking you to end it.
Facts have a half life of ten years. Pretty much half what you knew as fact 10 years ago is now discredited.