Is a 30 year old guy considered ‘old’?

[Anonymous]

Obviously old in terms of adulthood. But I mean old….

I am 4.5 years away ☹️ it’s sad age is shamed

Yes it’s ‘old’

No it’s young

No it’s really young

Not sure

[HawkPerception]

Hate to say it as a 30 year old, but it's the age where most people in their 20s consider you old and people in their 40s still call you a baby. You're perceived as an old man by kids and teenagers. Life passes you by in no time. To me, it feels like I was in high school not that long ago, but here I am. I don't even approach girls anymore. I remember when I was 21 at a wings restaurant with work colleagues and these girls were sitting at a table next to us. As I was leaving, I just mentioned to their group that I found one of them attractive. They gave me a disgusted look and asked "How old are you?" I told them I was 21. Then they said "Yeah our friend is 16. You're a creep." I did not expect the girl to be 16... she looked closer to my age, but never again. I'm not making the mistake to talk to girls again. Girls do not know how to politely reject you. I'm afraid of even talking to girls in their early 20s now. Worst part is I wasn't even trying to ask her out. I just wanted to pay a compliment before I left.

[SereneScribe3]

That depends on your genetics and how old someone looks though. There are 30 year olds, who look way younger than their actual age

[HawkPerception]

@SereneScribe3 I've always been told I look younger than my age throughout my life by everyone I've met. Just yesterday I was playing soccer with a kid and he guessed I was 22.

[patois]

If people in your family die at 50 then 30 is 60% to the end. If people in your family die at 100 then you're only 30% from the beginning. So it all depends on your genetic track record and current health. Do you have any health problems currently? If not, then you're still young and healthy. Once you have a major health problem that consistently gets worse every year like high blood pressure, then I'd say you are old.

[Asker]

No health problems my family live to around 90

[patois]

So middle age for you is 45, and old is like 60 most likely.

[Asker]

But I could live to 100

[Asker]

My grandparents had lived rough a bit

[patois]

It's possible. Medicine also continues to advance which can increase life span.

[Kayla45]

I’m 31, and I’m feeling older by the year. lol.

In all seriousness though, Being in your 30s is only like the middle of your life, There’s still a lot to experience as you grow even older. Especially when it comes to retirement age, Then you can just lay back and relax.

[Sunnysunny123]

When i was 20 i was scared of 25, now i am 26 and scared of 30. I think this will continue all my life. 30 year olds are not old definetly.
For me is the fact that i want to achieve so much before 30 and the pressure is doing the work.

[Apple1996]

Obviously yes 35 is middle aged for men

[Asker]

‘it is generally defined as being between the ages of 40 and 60’

[Apple1996]

Most people don't live till 100 so middle aged is a lot younger than 50

[Asker]

Where I am from its 85. So that is 42.5

[Apple1996]

It's probably better to look at your grandparents/great grandparents ages when they died and make a average out of that. It's more genetics then where you live

[Asker]

Well they are around 87 but they lived a rougher life than me

[Asker]

I think old for a guy starts at 40, for a girl maybe 35.

But even then those ages are still young and healthy? So it makes sense for old to be around 50

[Apple1996]

It's the opposite. Women live about 7-10 years longer then men. Middle age starts sooner for men compared to women

[Apple1996]

Most people live their exciting years before 35-40. Past that there isn't much to live for then health issues start creeping in

[Asker]

I disagree.
I think women age quicker and they need to focus on having kids at an earlier age so that’s why I say 30-35 is old for a woman. Women live all their fun years when they’re young. However, from what I’ve heard from men, life gets better as you age. Your status, money increases, your goals are accomplished. Being young sucks as a guy cause you’re trying to get your life together and excel in your career. More is expected of men. When I think of my 16-22 years I don’t have fond memories, now life is starting to get better and better.

although the feeling of getting older and life going by in a flash is daunting. You’ve only got one life

[Asker]

Also women live longer because men live more stressful difficult lives, that can be improved with age when you’ve worked on things for years

[Asker]

You look at dating also, women need to be snapped up before 30. Whereas with guys at 20 dating sucks, but then it doesn’t matter if it’s 25,30,35,40 then the tables turn

[Apple1996]

Older men unfortunately have high suicide and depression rates. It does not get better for y'all with age. Older women tend to be happier because they find themselves. It's not really about kids, money or any of that stuff

[Apple1996]

Women live their worst years when young. Teens-early 20s we have bad depression and high suicide rates🫤

[Asker]

Being a young man sucks. When you’re middle aged you’ll have a wife and kids, a stable career, you’ll feel like the man.
Women go through menopause, look terrible when they age. With guys none of that matters.

[Apple1996]

Dating and relationships don't always lead to happiness

[Apple1996]

Many men have those things young. And you do know males go through a hormonal change just like menopause?

[Apple1996]

Also menopause is a good thing. It isn't negative like you are thinking

[Asker]

I guess it is relative to the individual. But I do disagree again because women get handed everything to them when they’re young. So much male attention, guys paying for her drinks and spoiling her etc. all those privileges go when they’re 30. Whereas dating for a guy becomes easier at my age. 25-40.

[Asker]

Dating/relationships don’t always lead to happiness true, but for a man I think it usually does if he finds a good woman who gives him a family. Most young girls aren’t wired up to fulfil this like they used to

[Asker]

I genuinely believe being a young man sucks even though they portray it to be like the best time of your life, you have no money 🙈

[Apple1996]

Male attention and free drinks isn't anything special 😂

[Apple1996]

My husband had good younger years🤷‍♀️ he's now getting tired and worn down like a old man lol

[Asker]

Maybe. But when a girl hits 30 no one gives a fuck about you. It’s you trying to sell to men not men selling you.
Female privilege when they are young like around 20 is something else. For a guy this doesn’t exist. It only exists when you’re like 40 accomplished and successful

[Apple1996]

You must be living under a rock or something. Women hit their peaks at 30-40. Men hit it much earlier like 20-30. I think a lot of men have some weird projection about this. The truth is ain't nobody looking at most men unless they are young. I see a older man out and about I'll try avoiding eye contact with them 😂

[Asker]

Then why are men in European countries getting married at 30-35? What peak?

Maybe you like them younger but look around at the truth. Women like older guys. Men become the prize when they’re more experienced not when they’re young and naïve

[Asker]

A fertility doctor told my older sister something crazy like 50% of a woman’s eggs are bad at 30 also 90% of their eggs are gone.

I don’t know what peak you’re talking about

[Apple1996]

I don't notice that at all. I live in a big neighborhood with lots of married men/women with kids. All of them are 35 and under. Many of them have teenage kids

[Apple1996]

Most of a girls eggs are gone by the time she hits puberty. That isn't a sign that she has low fertility. It's what's normal or else women would have a million periods trying to get rid of all the extra eggs we are born with

[Apple1996]

And our eggs have nothing to do with when we peak in life. There are women born without uteruses, eggs , fertility. They are still beautiful and able to live full happy lives

[Asker]

Do you live under a rock hahah
Women have a body clock more unforgiving than men, there’s plenty of scientific literature verifying this. Women have complex bodies seen as they create life. My cousin was also concerned she hadn’t found a partner at 31 because of this.

Also yes it is evidence if she’s wasted most of her eggs she’s clearly far from peak fertile condition.

[Asker]

I mean the whole point of female life is giving life and nurture. It’s what men want from women.

[Apple1996]

It's really not. Women don't have to be fertile to be beautiful and find a man. Not everyone wants kids or cares

[Levin]

"It's the opposite. Women live about 7-10 years longer then men. Middle age starts sooner for men compared to women "

You seem to revel in this a little too much...

[Apple1996]

@Levin everyone knows women live longer. It's literally just a basic fact

[Levin]

But thou is thither full of glee in expressing this fact.

[Apple1996]

@Levin nah more so with my original comment of men being middle aged at 35 😂 y'all always get bitter when that's brought up

[Levin]

'tis a fair comment Madame Apple.

One foot in t'grave.

But I see you. I can see what lies underneath.

[Asker]

I think this Apple girl hates men. Everything she said is wrong then accuses me of living under a rock

[Asker]

She clearly has a low opinion of men 👀

[Apple1996]

Nah I love men 🥰

[Apple1996]

There is nothing wrong about what I said. People view being old differently. To me it's middle aged

[SereneScribe3]

The question asked about 30 though, not 35 lol
According to most social scientists, middle age starts at 35, therefore 30 is still relatively young. Plus I've seen some 30 year old women, who look much younger than their age, so I'd say it depends on the individual and their genetics

[SereneScribe3]

Nevermind I just saw you were talking only about men lol

[normalice]

It is old to 25 year olds and young to 40 year olds.

[Asker]

All relative I guess

[normalice]

Indeed, nearly everything is. That has caused a lot of problems, in fact..

[godfatherfan]

Until my 50th birthday, 30 was the hardest birthday I ever had. I woke up realizing I am 30, married, 1 child and 1 on the way, a mortgage... Like "how the fonk did this happen"? lol.
But 30 was nothing to 50. 50 Kicked my ass big time.

[strateguy632]

Even age 5 they say "5 years old".

Once i asked my ma when her birthday, she said, so i said that was when you were 20 years OLD, with emphasiis... yeh she didn't like that.

[Levin]

I'm almost 40.

It's quite frightening.

But in the words of the Anal Cunt 'song'. 'You're old, fuck you!'

As an inside. I feel wonderful. Healthier and more vibrant than ever.

[IslaTheWitch]

my son, next year... I think he would be offended :D

[LiamJHayden]

Yes, I am dreading the date a little less than eleven months away. Need to double check to make sure all of my affairs are in order and that I have a good retirement home chosen.

[Nikki1989]

At 30 most men are just getting started.

[DrPepper12]

Stop the pity party for no reason and get your head in the game!! YOLO!!

[Kayla45]

lol hearing a 50 year old say YOLO is really funny actually xD

[DrPepper12]

Im a perpetual teenager from being a high school teacher. My kids hate that i actually know what they're saying without a translator...

[Staximus]

It is very old indeed, the average cave man only lived 30 years. Better start counting your lucky stars

[jamesgoldman]

I've been old since I was probably 12 so 30 is ancient but at least there's good Scotch

[onedarkcloud]

If you are worried about that now what the hell are you going to do when you reach my age?

[4ngelic]

its not young or old, it's in the middle

[SereneScribe3]

I wouldn't say 30 is middle aged. According to most scientists and sociologists middle age starts at 35+

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7203662/

[McLlovin]

Maybe to a child yea 30 is old.

[McLlovin]

Im 38 and i feel physically like im in my 20s i dont feel old. But im active physically and jog a lot

[exitseven]

not sure. It is relative.

[Dargil]

Not if you are 30!

[noohair]

Ask if 30 is young when you are 70.

[In_Trance]

Compared to 17, yes
Compared to 63, no

[whereismyjohnny]

No... 😆