You make it seem as if foreigners are only white. I'm a foreigner. Also, you do know that there are black Americans right? lol. I'm sure you'll find yourself a decent American women if you give them a chance. Good luck.
I hear American women are more willing to put out than foreign women do, that may be a factor to them having more appeal. There's also the "exotic" thing. Guys like variety. As an American girl id say that I'm more attracted to people from foreign lands so it goes both ways. So far as the race thing goes, it does cause a lot of friction. Black men and women don't see eye to eye in this country, which is why I like black guys from abroad.
It has a lot to do with a lack of knowledge of self on both parts. But I wouldn't stress it. That's why I keep gravitating to African men seeing as I'm not terribly attracted to white men or men of other backgrounds. I need me a black man lol.
In my experience, usually black American national women don't see eye to eye with anyone. They have put themselves above everyone else. Way above. They tend to be rude, expect to be treated like princesses, and expect to have no accountability for their bad behavior.
Don't take it personally -- provisionally I'm excluding you based on your grasp of grammar.
Foreign Women, because they are nicer. If you read about this you will find out that most men around the World never try to even attempt to date American Women, because they just have a bad reputation.
I've noticed that usually the dudes who say stuff like this are just finding reasons to blame women for their lack of a love/sex life so they are going to demonize all women or all women that fit a certain mold. They also have respect for women who were raised in an oppressive country with sexist values because they want a docile woman who is just thankful that you aren't going to be abusive. That's sick
I doubt you're reading into this right. I don't think this post is intended to belittle American women. I believe it's intent is to point out a that American women don't see a man for who he is and how he has made many many changes to his nature to RESPECT womankind and it goes unnoticed and unappreciated. You yourself mentioned oppressive countries, knowing well they exist and abuse can run rampant. Yet When it doesn't happen you seem to ignore the fact that it takes many men considerable effort to achieve this level of respect. That's what you're missing. That's why this post exists. If you've done something right people won't be sure you've done anything at all. And you will be treated as such like you've not nothing at all!
@Dionysius YOU don't get it. You are basically saying men need recognition in America for not being oppressive and sexist. I'm never going to praise anyone for not being a bad person. That is never going to happen. It should be a given that you are not an oppressive sexist shithead. You do not get recognition for it or a pat on the back. I'm not going to thank American men for my right to vote, drive, dress how I want etc. For one, it wasn't even the efforts of any modern man or woman who made life in amerit for women what it is today. That was the efforts of past men and women. It has nothing to do with you. I don't expect any man to thank me for not being a false rape accuser or a crazy bitch who will key your car. Do you see what I'm saying?
Yeah I know women in other countries are very oppressed and I hate that for them. But I'm not going to thank you for my lack of oppression.
Anyway like I said *usually****** the guys who say this think the way I described in my
So you'd prefer to be ignorant of what a man really is, and instead judge him on your ideals. what you see around the world regarding how men treat women badly, well that's what we are. When men jump through hoops to fit a female-centric ideal, it goes unappreciated. No one is asking for praise, just understanding. Men all over America afford women this understanding and have changed themselves to better please women. American women have it better than women in these oppressive countries, yet they don't credit the men who make it possible. Instead it's more likely to dig deeper and tell American men what else they are doing wrong. Let me ask you this, If you made changes to yourself to please your man and it went unrecognized would you make yet another change? Or would you turn around and look for someone who did recognize and appreciate it. Showing a small understanding goes a long way and you know it. That's all the praise we want heaped on us is just that tiny iota of understanding.
@Dionysius it seems that you're implying men are naturally oppressive and sexist and must put it extraordinary effort to not be that way, ie "jumping through hoops"; and somehow equal rights for both sexes is a "female-centric" society? Then you go on to say you do want praise recognition and appreciation for not being a sexist piece of abusive shit.
Firstly, YOU did not make the progress in this country. Men your age and even your father did not change social attitudes towards women. You were born into a society where women were treated as equals with equal rights. You were born into that social climate. You've done nothing to achieve that. Nor have *ANY* modern men. Secondly, men are not NATURALLY sexist, abusive and oppressive. It doesn't take effort to not be a sexist abusive oppressive asshole unless you are a shitty person to your core OR you were brainwashed into believing that women are to be treated that way since birth. The latter does not apply to you, so you are
Thirdly, have you thanked your parents for not beating you everyday, sexually abusing you and starving you? Have you thanked customers at work for not robbing you and then shooting you? Have you thanked random people late at night for not mugging you? Have you thanked your dog for not attacking you? Have you thanked your doctor for no fatal malpractice? Have you thanked an officer for not shooting you wrongfully? Have you thanked any adult that supervised you as a child for not touching you inappropriately?
No, you have not. So when you demand recognition and praise for not kidnapping 13 year old girls and marrying them off, or for not raping women and then imprisoning them for it, for not prohibiting their education, for not labeling them as property- that is akin to thanking all those people for not doing absolutely heinous things to you.
I don't support modern feminism for the most part, but men like you keep it alive. You expect to be treated like a noble warrior for not being a bad person. You get recognition for being an extraordinarily fantastic moralistic person, not for "jumping thru" IMAGINARY " hoops" to not hit, rape, and oppress women. It takes no effort for me to not hurt others or disrespect them because I am a typical person. Anyone who has to try to avoid hurting others is a BAD person. You don't deserve recognition you deserve nothing
At our primal core yes we are oppressive beasts I do not imply I say it outright. look to the rest of the word in these what you've called oppressive societies. As far as the political landscape you are correct and there is no denial of it. HOWEVER to say that this landscape does not force our hand to make changes to ourselves (primal nature) is a farce and it's Misanthropy at it's best. and yet again there you go mistaking Praise with understanding. I doubt you be so willing to see how men are being oppressed in this society. Men and women will always be at odds, you nor I can change this. What we can do is try to find the most even ground we can and stand on it. But keep in mind when you are not being mated with (raped, oppressed) against your will, what men are by nature is being oppressed. We do this (not oppressing/raping/enslaving) by choice not nature. Laws are are fine and well but they've never really stopped a madman before, so yes there is a choice. No we don't need praise,
@Dionysius everything you say henceforth means nothing considering that bs that just came out of you. If men are such awful beasts they should be stripped of all rights and treated as such.
Well guess what lady you're also a beast of burden with your own built in set of BS. You're going all feminist on us not real feminist mind you but this newfangled approach to feminism. You say you want equality but you don't you want the upper hand. And you're way to blind to see that in America you've got it flaunt it and reach for more. I love women I treat them with decency and respect, likely more than you've ever shown a man. Our wants and desires differ greatly across the sexes and often we put more emphasis on what women's wants and needs are in this country. You are precisely the kind of woman this man is trying to avoid. and you should be treated as such
"For me, I prefer foreign women because they are nicer and won't mind to date me. They don't care what color I am."
@Tiger288 that kinda sounds like you're prejudiced against dating your own race.
And I'm okay with American or foreign women, looks and personality matter more to me than whether you're American, European, or Russian.
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I only have experience of American, British and one Dutch and one French woman.
I'd say the differences from my point of view is European women tend to treat a man as a useful addition to their lives, like a car or a house a thing that fills a specific need. American women tend to treat you as an all purpose cure for everything which is unsatisfactory with their life. It is now your job to make them happy.
I have a weird issue because nearly all the traits I like in a women I usually like more in non American women however humor which is probably the most important trait is the one thing that transfers poorly from country to country so I tend to go for American women.
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American women can be pretty brutal, even if you're already married... if you can't provide sufficient financial support on her, she'll leave you outright and she'll look for another man.
He said most girls haven't wanted to date him. Most likely he thinks his odds would be better in another country. It's interesting that rejection can shape attraction.
Locale plays a direct part in shaping a persons views on all things. What learned traits are common in one place in the world are not so common in another. People value different things, many things (viewpoints opinions etc.) vary from place to place. What can't be found here does not cease to exist if it can be found elsewhere.
And, unless they are immigrants, they are all American cultures, and they all share certain elements (cultivated by American propaganda) that are despicable. Other nations have cultures that are much more vastly different than ANY American sub-culture.
@Transigence they dont have to be immigrants to not have American culture. America is filled with many different cultures because its made up of people from many different countries
American women are so self entitled (not black American women for some unknown reason). They have set impossibly high standards that most men can never measure up too then complain that there is no good men left. If you suggest the reason they can't get these guys is because they aren't good enough they get all butthurt. Thankfully I married a lovely scottish lass.
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Eh what foreign women are you talking about here? In Europe there probably more racist than anyone.
American, but foreign girls are definitely on my radar : )
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I have far more success with European women than American women. I find them to be more out going and witty/ funny and more confident in general- but with out being spoiled like you find here. Plus they tend to dress more conservatively which I like, I don't need to see cheeks and cleavage popping out everywhere...
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Most black American men prefer to date white and Latina women and black Americans tend to care more about hair texture and light skin than other races. I'm a very light skinned African American and I'm not too eager to date black men who approach me
I like men who are well mannered and family orientated. I am european and find American men rather self obsorbed and culture less. It's all make it or break it, instead of working things out in American dating culture. Not my thing
not American, but i do consider foreign women as a safer bet where marriage is concerned, but it depends on where the girl is from really. Where casual dating is concerned, i dont really care
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You make it seem as if foreigners are only white. I'm a foreigner. Also, you do know that there are black Americans right? lol. I'm sure you'll find yourself a decent American women if you give them a chance. Good luck.
Well black American girls seem go for white and Latina men those days.
I hear American women are more willing to put out than foreign women do, that may be a factor to them having more appeal. There's also the "exotic" thing. Guys like variety. As an American girl id say that I'm more attracted to people from foreign lands so it goes both ways. So far as the race thing goes, it does cause a lot of friction. Black men and women don't see eye to eye in this country, which is why I like black guys from abroad.
Yep black men and women don't eye to eye at all it sad.
It has a lot to do with a lack of knowledge of self on both parts. But I wouldn't stress it. That's why I keep gravitating to African men seeing as I'm not terribly attracted to white men or men of other backgrounds. I need me a black man lol.
Lol yea I got u.
In my experience, usually black American national women don't see eye to eye with anyone. They have put themselves above everyone else. Way above. They tend to be rude, expect to be treated like princesses, and expect to have no accountability for their bad behavior.
Don't take it personally -- provisionally I'm excluding you based on your grasp of grammar.
Yes, I prefer most foreign women, in general. Girls in the US are too illiterate and spoiled, on average.
Illiterate?
@RachelBrigs You DO know how to read, right?
Foreign Women, because they are nicer. If you read about this you will find out that most men around the World never try to even attempt to date American Women, because they just have a bad reputation.
A lot of guys also sometimes say that American women can behave in a less feminine way and don't take care of their appearance as well.
I've noticed that usually the dudes who say stuff like this are just finding reasons to blame women for their lack of a love/sex life so they are going to demonize all women or all women that fit a certain mold.
They also have respect for women who were raised in an oppressive country with sexist values because they want a docile woman who is just thankful that you aren't going to be abusive. That's sick
I doubt you're reading into this right. I don't think this post is intended to belittle American women. I believe it's intent is to point out a that American women don't see a man for who he is and how he has made many many changes to his nature to RESPECT womankind and it goes unnoticed and unappreciated. You yourself mentioned oppressive countries, knowing well they exist and abuse can run rampant. Yet When it doesn't happen you seem to ignore the fact that it takes many men considerable effort to achieve this level of respect. That's what you're missing. That's why this post exists. If you've done something right people won't be sure you've done anything at all. And you will be treated as such like you've not nothing at all!
@Dionysius YOU don't get it. You are basically saying men need recognition in America for not being oppressive and sexist. I'm never going to praise anyone for not being a bad person. That is never going to happen. It should be a given that you are not an oppressive sexist shithead. You do not get recognition for it or a pat on the back. I'm not going to thank American men for my right to vote, drive, dress how I want etc. For one, it wasn't even the efforts of any modern man or woman who made life in amerit for women what it is today. That was the efforts of past men and women. It has nothing to do with you.
I don't expect any man to thank me for not being a false rape accuser or a crazy bitch who will key your car. Do you see what I'm saying?
Yeah I know women in other countries are very oppressed and I hate that for them. But I'm not going to thank you for my lack of oppression.
Anyway like I said *usually****** the guys who say this think the way I described in my
Original post. Read it again. I said: "I've noticed that USUALLY..."
So you'd prefer to be ignorant of what a man really is, and instead judge him on your ideals. what you see around the world regarding how men treat women badly, well that's what we are. When men jump through hoops to fit a female-centric ideal, it goes unappreciated. No one is asking for praise, just understanding. Men all over America afford women this understanding and have changed themselves to better please women. American women have it better than women in these oppressive countries, yet they don't credit the men who make it possible. Instead it's more likely to dig deeper and tell American men what else they are doing wrong. Let me ask you this, If you made changes to yourself to please your man and it went unrecognized would you make yet another change? Or would you turn around and look for someone who did recognize and appreciate it. Showing a small understanding goes a long way and you know it. That's all the praise we want heaped on us is just that tiny iota of understanding.
@Dionysius it seems that you're implying men are naturally oppressive and sexist and must put it extraordinary effort to not be that way, ie "jumping through hoops"; and somehow equal rights for both sexes is a "female-centric" society?
Then you go on to say you do want praise recognition and appreciation for not being a sexist piece of abusive shit.
Firstly, YOU did not make the progress in this country. Men your age and even your father did not change social attitudes towards women. You were born into a society where women were treated as equals with equal rights. You were born into that social climate. You've done nothing to achieve that. Nor have *ANY* modern men.
Secondly, men are not NATURALLY sexist, abusive and oppressive. It doesn't take effort to not be a sexist abusive oppressive asshole unless you are a shitty person to your core OR you were brainwashed into believing that women are to be treated that way since birth. The latter does not apply to you, so you are
A shitty person to your core.
Thirdly, have you thanked your parents for not beating you everyday, sexually abusing you and starving you?
Have you thanked customers at work for not robbing you and then shooting you?
Have you thanked random people late at night for not mugging you?
Have you thanked your dog for not attacking you?
Have you thanked your doctor for no fatal malpractice?
Have you thanked an officer for not shooting you wrongfully?
Have you thanked any adult that supervised you as a child for not touching you inappropriately?
No, you have not.
So when you demand recognition and praise for not kidnapping 13 year old girls and marrying them off, or for not raping women and then imprisoning them for it, for not prohibiting their education, for not labeling them as property- that is akin to thanking all those people for not doing absolutely heinous things to you.
I don't support modern feminism for the most part, but men like you keep it alive. You expect to be treated like a noble warrior for not being a bad person. You get recognition for being an extraordinarily fantastic moralistic person, not for "jumping thru" IMAGINARY " hoops" to not hit, rape, and oppress women. It takes no effort for me to not hurt others or disrespect them because I am a typical person. Anyone who has to try to avoid hurting others is a BAD person. You don't deserve recognition you deserve nothing
At our primal core yes we are oppressive beasts I do not imply I say it outright. look to the rest of the word in these what you've called oppressive societies. As far as the political landscape you are correct and there is no denial of it. HOWEVER to say that this landscape does not force our hand to make changes to ourselves (primal nature) is a farce and it's Misanthropy at it's best. and yet again there you go mistaking Praise with understanding. I doubt you be so willing to see how men are being oppressed in this society. Men and women will always be at odds, you nor I can change this. What we can do is try to find the most even ground we can and stand on it. But keep in mind when you are not being mated with (raped, oppressed) against your will, what men are by nature is being oppressed. We do this (not oppressing/raping/enslaving) by choice not nature. Laws are are fine and well but they've never really stopped a madman before, so yes there is a choice. No we don't need praise,
@Dionysius everything you say henceforth means nothing considering that bs that just came out of you.
If men are such awful beasts they should be stripped of all rights and treated as such.
Well guess what lady you're also a beast of burden with your own built in set of BS. You're going all feminist on us not real feminist mind you but this newfangled approach to feminism. You say you want equality but you don't you want the upper hand. And you're way to blind to see that in America you've got it flaunt it and reach for more. I love women I treat them with decency and respect, likely more than you've ever shown a man. Our wants and desires differ greatly across the sexes and often we put more emphasis on what women's wants and needs are in this country. You are precisely the kind of woman this man is trying to avoid. and you should be treated as such
Speaking as an American who has been to many places around the world, I think American women are one of the worst to date.
I feel u bro.
"For me, I prefer foreign women because they are nicer and won't mind to date me. They don't care what color I am."
@Tiger288 that kinda sounds like you're prejudiced against dating your own race.
And I'm okay with American or foreign women, looks and personality matter more to me than whether you're American, European, or Russian.
I only have experience of American, British and one Dutch and one French woman.
I'd say the differences from my point of view is European women tend to treat a man as a useful addition to their lives, like a car or a house a thing that fills a specific need. American women tend to treat you as an all purpose cure for everything which is unsatisfactory with their life. It is now your job to make them happy.
Yep.
This is a very biased post. And frankly I thought you were quite attractive until I saw this post. by the way I'm American
I'm sorry u change mind about me. At least I'm honest.
I accidentally upvoted, whoops.
I have a weird issue because nearly all the traits I like in a women I usually like more in non American women however humor which is probably the most important trait is the one thing that transfers poorly from country to country so I tend to go for American women.
American women can be pretty brutal, even if you're already married... if you can't provide sufficient financial support on her, she'll leave you outright and she'll look for another man.
Idc what you prefer but the things that people are saying are so stereotypical and based on ignorance. Why should what country they're from matter?
He said most girls haven't wanted to date him. Most likely he thinks his odds would be better in another country. It's interesting that rejection can shape attraction.
This ^^
Locale plays a direct part in shaping a persons views on all things. What learned traits are common in one place in the world are not so common in another. People value different things, many things (viewpoints opinions etc.) vary from place to place. What can't be found here does not cease to exist if it can be found elsewhere.
Culture. People from different cultures have different values and that drives different behavior. It matters a lot.
@Transigence ok... and there are many different people of many different cultures in America.
And, unless they are immigrants, they are all American cultures, and they all share certain elements (cultivated by American propaganda) that are despicable. Other nations have cultures that are much more vastly different than ANY American sub-culture.
It makes a difference.
@Transigence they dont have to be immigrants to not have American culture. America is filled with many different cultures because its made up of people from many different countries
American women are so self entitled (not black American women for some unknown reason). They have set impossibly high standards that most men can never measure up too then complain that there is no good men left. If you suggest the reason they can't get these guys is because they aren't good enough they get all butthurt. Thankfully I married a lovely scottish lass.
Eh what foreign women are you talking about here? In Europe there probably more racist than anyone.
American, but foreign girls are definitely on my radar : )
I have far more success with European women than American women. I find them to be more out going and witty/ funny and more confident in general- but with out being spoiled like you find here. Plus they tend to dress more conservatively which I like, I don't need to see cheeks and cleavage popping out everywhere...
Most black American men prefer to date white and Latina women and black Americans tend to care more about hair texture and light skin than other races. I'm a very light skinned African American and I'm not too eager to date black men who approach me
Believe it or not light skinned African American girl is not my type. They remind of my large light skinned family.
I like men who are well mannered and family orientated. I am european and find American men rather self obsorbed and culture less. It's all make it or break it, instead of working things out in American dating culture. Not my thing
not American, but i do consider foreign women as a safer bet where marriage is concerned, but it depends on where the girl is from really. Where casual dating is concerned, i dont really care