What would you prefer traditional or modern partner in your life?

[Justneedtokno]

On the site it seems to be a battle between OLD SCHOOL VERSUS NEW SCHOOL values and morals.
There are some men that don’t like feminism but want to be asked on a date by a woman. Which has something to do with equality.
They are women that like the old ways would like to be taken care of by a man but still don’t want to do some of the old ways practices.

Personally: I consider myself a traditional person with a modern twist. I like to work I also like to cook I have my own things coming into the relationship.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Neither, She would need to be the type to refer to both those types of people as "normies", or some other term insinuating that she wants squat to do with them.

I want to date a really cute nerd who is currently sitting inside all day, not being social with anyone but her less than a handful of close friends, while she binges anime and video games heavily when not drawing, or does science research, or builds neat inventions, or 3d prints toys, or makes music, or writes books.

I want to have a girlfriend who is entertaining, and mentally and physically stimulating (not a old school or modern housewife or breadwinner).

I don't want either of us to ask eachother out and go on dates, I want to gain a best friend who I hang out with every day doing fun stuff, and have it just "happen", (that or be matched by some kind of very thorough algorithm).

Personally I think roles are limiting and compatibility is underrated.

I just want a female version of myself, I dont need her to do anything for me, go out of her way to impress me, or otherwise change her daily habits to accommodate me, i just need exclusive loyalty/love/affection, and time spent with her making creative stuff, gaming, and fooling around.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I hate tradition. I like my woman that goes against the society standards and does her own thing, yet remains lady like.

[DizzyDesii]

I like old school but not exactly traditional. I was born in the 90s and i dont follow much tradition but im still about old shool stuff like music, tv shows, dress style, lack of the latest technology, etc ranging from late 90s to early 2000s. So i dont want an old fashioned super traditional guy but i want him to be into a lot of old school stuff

Basically i wanna date someone whos also born in mid to late 90s haha. They understand me better

[DizzyDesii]

In terms of work and stuff, i’ll never be the stay at the house-wife type. I get out and do what i need to do to make sure im financially stable myself

[Justneedtokno]

I was born in the 90s too so I definitely get this. Totally like for me I would be a stay at home mom in the beginning of my children being born but I’m going back to work as soon as they go to school. I love old-school music and old movies like breakfast at Tiffany’s and Lonesome Dove and the twilight zone. But I also like New Age stuff as well especially music back in the day was great

[DizzyDesii]

Yea I've saved enough to be able to be stay at home in terms of maternity for the babies first year or two. I would prefer they not have to go to daycare. By age 3 they should be able to go straight to preschool

[Justneedtokno]

Yes that’s wonderful. Y’all my family believe in keeping your own children.

[DizzyDesii]

Only because I've seen daycares and kids be nasty lmao. Wiping boogers on eachother, sharing cups and spreading stuff, and all kinda stuff haha

[DizzyDesii]

Thanks for mho

[Apple1996]

Definitely traditional. I like staying home with my kids and having my husband work. I wouldn't say that means he's taking care of me tho. If anything I take care of him far more on a daily basis then he ever has for me.

[MCheetah]

I prefer someone who is a mix of traditional and modern; she can be feminine but still likes and appreciates her man being a man and doesn't trying to out-man him. She can be a modern woman, but definitely NOT a feminist! Being an insecure, low-intelligence, bitter man-hater who thinks she's oppressed as a First World woman is in my top three list of absolute dealbreakers. So I'd sooner date a female ex-convict than a feminist. Feminism has nothing to do with "gender equality" and never helped to attain it. As long as she's not one of those types of people, she can modern for all I care.

[bamesjond0069]

"There are some men that don’t like feminism but want to be asked on a date by a woman."
"They are women that like the old ways would like to be taken care of by a man but still don’t want to do some of the old ways practices."

These people i think are the most ridiculous. I think modern ways can work but only if paired with another modern. From my perspective there's tons of modern people seeking traditional people (both ways) and i honestly find it retarded. It makes no sense at all. This is why i find modern ways stupid because the vast majority who are modern do not seem attracted to modern people. Error error does not compute. Whereas traditional people dont particularly have this problem.

[DocT1977]

Well, my wife and I both share a mix of those values. We are a bit new school, but mostly old school. This day in age, people are a lot more independent. I guess it's just a matter of finding that middle ground and giving each other that breathing room.

[Anonymous]

This is tough when you actually try to write your thoughts on this. I like the twist. I’m not into traditional nor do I like modern solidly. Maybe it’s just liking those that walk their own path? Is that closest to modern? I don’t know. My body just knows what it likes.. I am but the humble driver.

[BCA6010]

I'd venture to say the vast majority of men and women are not 100% into 1920s gender roles or the modern interpretation of feminism, because absolutism simply isn't appealing. Your own views are pretty commonplace.

[FilmGuy93]

I would prefer a more modern woman, personally. I don't really see myself having much choice in the matter. Modern women are what I have to work with, so I may as well lean into it.

[noohair]

The modern phone has turned us into human robots with binary choices. The brain is not supposed to work that way. The most fragile part of a man is the ego. Tell him his dick is small and it is worse than death. Tell him you don't enjoy the sex, he is destroyed. Men are not complicated, Since caveman days it is, Water food sex, shelter. comfort. Not much has changed.

[Grond21]

I lean more towards the traditional side. Not on everything, but on many things, especially the roles in the relationship and how respectfully they treat each other

[Anonymous]

Modern women are good for sex but not much more. If I ever get married, it will be to a traditional woman. I have no interest in sharing my life with a modern "woman".

[Andres77]

Mix... and the older my wife gets the more traditional she gets and I'm okay with that.

[DaveToo]

I'm with you. I like my lady to be independent as well as interdependent.

[TheFlak38]

two sides of the same coin with the same outcome. The man becomes a slave on the plantation working his ass off for an entitled bitch and a system that is rigged in favour of women.

[Justneedtokno]

Sometimes

[Anonymous]

Neither. Both will be a headache. People should solidify the relationship they have with themselves before even thinking about the one they have with another.

[Anonymous]

Modern women have very little to offer men beyond sex. I want a real woman who has traditional values.

[Justneedtokno]

What is that you want them to offer be sex? What about what do you have to off besides sex?

[Opinion Owner]

Men offer women the same things they have always offered women. Modern women essentially offer men the things women want from men, not what men want from women. Modern women have redefined themselves into something that is largely unappealing to most men... beyond sex, that is.

To answer your first question, look at a modern women and compare her to her counterpart from 50 years ago, and there is your answer. Men want real women, not men with a vagina in a skirt. Men want someone who can cook rather than bringing home takeout. Men want women who will be real mothers instead of hiring out the job of raising his children. Men want a woman who is feminine and embraces her femininity, and I'm not just talking about looks.

Modern women are not what high value men want, and they never will be.

[Justneedtokno]

Wait so you’re saying a modern woman is a man. How is that just because we do for ourselves doesn’t mean that we’re men. I’m pretty sure that before a woman meets you they have to take care of themselves. They’re grown

[Opinion Owner]

I'm saying modern women behave like men in ways that make them unappealing to men. It's no different that how women are not attracted to effeminate men. And that's not their choice... women are wired to be attracted to masculinity, just like men are wired to be attracted to femininity (NOT masculinity).

What does any of this have to do with a woman taking care of herself?

[Justneedtokno]

I’m asking specifically what do modern woman does that makes the manly

[Justneedtokno]

Well that’s the only thing I can think of when it comes down to you saying that a woman is being manly. Taking care of yourself we’re going to work or something then that’s the only thing that I think is different from back then till now. We still do some of the same things could clean that was a regular basic skills that’s why I don’t understand what you guys want exactly

[Opinion Owner]

In terms of women's masculine behaviors, this article sums it up pretty well.

womenforone.com/.../

As far as relationships, I'll put it to you this way. In years gone by, a husband was responsible for certain things and a wife was responsible for others. A man got up and went to work each day knowing that his wife was hone taking care of the children and the tasks related to the home, food, etc. He came home from work to a clean and orderly house with clean laundry and a home cooked meal. He could relax and enjoy some quality family time with the wife and kids. On the weekend he could spend more quality family time or work on house projects.

Today, that same man still gets up and goes to work every day, but he comes home to something very different than his father or grandfather did. He probably has to stop on the way home from work to grab dinner and/or groceries, and and of course pick up the kids from daycare. He comes home to a wife who is also getting home from work and trying to decompress from all the stress at work. The house is not clean, the laundry is not done, the kids' homework is not complete, and he will need to spend his time at home working on those chores, because they are not done, rather than relaxing with his family. When the weekend comes it's the same story... working on things that used to be handled by a stay-at-home wife and mother. Men are essentially still expected to do everything they did in the past, plus a lot of other things that were not part of our job description before. Married life is not nearly as enjoyable for a man now than it used to be. We put more into it and get less in return.

[Opinion Owner]

Add to that the fact that half of marriages end in divorce, 70% of those divorces are filed by women, and men get screwed in divorce court and child custody disputes, and it's not hard to see why women and marriage are not seen as "the prize" they used to be. Men still feel some societal pressure to be married, but that is changing fast as men see more and more clearly what marriage and relationships mean for us in reality today, and many/most are realizing it's no longer worth it. A single life with casual dating and sex, lots of friends and activities with our buddies... it's a better a better life.

So yeah, if I ever get married, which is doubtful, it will be to a traditional woman. Modern women do not offer men a path to a happy life.

[Dchrls78104]

I'd prefer the traditional woman for a partner, if she were a Christian; as far as I'm concerned, the modern woman has nothing to offer.

[Wiredone]

I'm more for a traditional woman as I'm traditional too

[Seinna]

Traditional, I'm traditional also.

[Gwenhwyfar]

Probably a mix I guess

[sweetcocoa_]

I am a little bit of both.

[Waldoe]

people are complicated...