Do you think Andrew Tate's BAN on Facebook and Instagram is Fair?

[coachTanthony]

Yes he deserved it

No what happened to Free Speech

see poll ( Who the hell is Andrew Taint? )

[MCheetah]

Probably not. I don't know the whole details, but what little I do know of Andrew Tate is that he's a POS and an asshole. And if you're going to ban every asshole off of Facebook and Twitter, then no one would be left on there.

So unless he was telling people to kill themselves or outright scamming them (besides Hustlers University), then he probably shouldn't have been banned.

I didn't even know who Andrew Tate was until three weeks ago. He's not anyone important. And if you don't know who he is, that's normal. But the "short" version is,
he's a former MMA fighter who scams weak men into expensive masculinity courses like Hustlers University, beats on women, and had to flee the US due to criminal charges.

He's technically a millionaire, but only from being a con artist and all-around scumbag. I don't even disagree with some of the things he says about women, but he is a legitimate misogynist (not the SJW use of the term, the actual definition of one) and straight-up scammer.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/j4g2uuCeSPs

[Lliam]

I don't know who he is and I doubt if I would agree with him on much.

But I don't think social media giants have any more right to ban content than should telephone companies. These totalitarian corporations are essentially creating laws and enforcing them. They are the means of subverting constitutional rights.

These social media companies have ideological agendas. They operate as instruments of social engineering by pushing their own ideologies and censoring anything that does against their preferred narrative. They are evil propagandists.
FUCK them and their vague so-called community standards. I'd like to see them sued out of existence for practicing journalism without a license. I'd like to see their owners and executives imprisoned in Gitmo for crimes against humanity and treason against the USA.

Fuck "woke" bullies who want to punish anyone they disagree with. I despise those authoritarian pieces of shit. They are the greatest danger to democracy and freedom. I love seeing them crying inconsolably while praying for death.

[Greergr]

I mean, his opinions aren't even his opinions. It is just stopping the spread of shock value. I feel bad for the manipulable men who are insecure and seeking guidance from a man who couldn't care and wishes the active worst for them. I want men to know that being a true man isn't blindly following another's lead. Do you think Andrew Tate would pay money and waste his time following another man? No, he would call that person a bitch. Just be genuine and a good person, that is what makes a man. Whether is is fair, I don't know, though it is a good move on a business stand point for both social media platforms. Andrew Tate above all people should respect that, his whole existence is to get attention then subsequent money. That existence seems hollow and lonely in my eyes.

[FilmGuy93]

Exactly! I feel like Tate is selling a product, more than talking about things he actually thinks.

[BlueScorpio]

The thing about free speech is the goverment can't hold what you say against you... unless maybe it's some form of terroristic attack/ you threathening the president/white house. Other than that, what you say can still get you very much in trouble with others and has consequences.

It's slippery slope, people don't want certain people just saying anything cause in the past that has caused a wide spread fear or hate against a certain group of people. But people are also worried about censorship becoming a normalized thing even if it's something not shocking like what this man says. Anyway what did he say that got him officially banned from both sites?

[MzAsh]

Yeah it’s fair. They can do what they want.

[Intothevoid666]

Oh but the oil companies can’t do what they want?

[splkato]

Fair or not fair, NO ONE should be banned from any social media platform; UNLESS that person is violating any human right. People should have a right to say whatever they want. I mean that's the essence of social media. Right!!. If the shoe fits, wear it. simply that. If someone knows oneself, why would they allow external opinions to deter them from doing whatever they want. That's BS. This Tate guy says stuff basing on his ideas of success - maybe if he's backed up by some research of some sort. Often times out of every bad thing usually there's some slight good in it. Just as for every lie there is some titbit truth behind it. I, personally, don't mind him saying whatever he wants to say. I just like his confidence. Man, dude is insanely confident.

So whoever feels offended by Tate, just take heart. Just like fingerprints, each one is in their own race of life. Live your life according to how to want it. You owe no one no shit. Ummm, for those who don't know Tate, oh he's one helluva loud mouth kinda guy. Yeah i said it. ~xoxo~

[TonyV]

I don't care, he's an ignorant peice of shit, and some men going through a hard time that hear his trash opinions will start to think like him too, and we don't need any more like him.

He dosent have a right to be on those platforms, no one does. Sure the platforms are usually biased and block what they disagree with and push things you may not agree with, but it's their right too, Don't like it, leave the platform.

I know twitter is trash and off the rails, that's why I don't go there.

I don't give a shit about him, I also don't care what Facebook or Instagram approves of, it's just not my problem.

I don't even know what he did, I heard about him, listened to him, then stopped cause he's a toxic asshole.

[MountAverage]

Fair? If he violated their guidelines then obviously there's consequences. I don't know why that is so hard to grasp for so many. It has nothing to do with "censorship" or "freedom of speech". These are terms that right-wingers are obsessed with without even understanding them.

That being said, Andrew Tate is a fascist psychopath, extreme misogynist, and a literal human trafficer. If I was running a social media site, I wouldn't even allow someone like that to be on my site to begin with. Just like I wouldn't allow members or sympathizers of ISIS or Neo-Nazis on my site. That's not "censorship", that's common sense protection.

[Aimer07]

Clementine ford, why she's not banned for saying men are worthless all the time?

Misguiding women to hate men talking about Patriarchy oppressing women when it's not the truth.

Patriarchy and men invented the tampons, Men died for women and children to see this day? Even now in Ukraine men are protecting their homeland, women and children. It's not feminists on the frontline.

Cher: Do you think men are important? went viral saying ''Like for what?''

And SO MUCH MORE on media painting men bad.

Men suicides are at an all time high.

Do Women care... Do feminist care? No. So that says a lot about feminism.

Andrew Tate felt sorry for men. If Tate is bad then Feminists are the worst.

Cher

[SlightlyEccentric]

People saying yes just want to take the back door and not debate why he is wrong. Just do the typical tyrannical thing and ban and censor.

And to anyone losers that say: "THeYrE a PrIvAtE cOmPaNy, ThEy CaN dO wHaT tHeY wAnT!" There is a huge difference between banning people for inciting violence, threats of violence or promoting illegal activity versus banning people because you don't like what they are saying. You're no better than people like Hitler, Stalin or Mao in that regard.

[Snsl153]

I don't know. What did he do to warrant the ban? Did he actually break the law? I ask, because if he didn't, if all he did was express an unpopular opinion, then no, it isn't fair at all. Bad ideas need to be exposed to the fresh air of public criticism and debate, not smothered through censorship.

[WeeeISee]

He’s part of the reason there’s increased violence towards women and children.

[Red-Blaze]

Looking up some info
So from what I understand, yes its fair and very likely something he was working to get
His playing a character and doing so well
Getting his fame, and getting his clicks

with a ban in place he just got a huge poblicity
As known "There is no bad poblicity"
We will see if this one even stick

I will say how ever at least some of the things he said are most likely encraging to bad actors out there

[Chthou95]

There's a lot of stuff he says that's true and it exposed society and society doesn't like that. Women obviously won't like it but this just proves men and women are diffferent. We're not the same and nor do we think the same. a lot of men hold the sane views as Andrew tate but are too scared to say it because you have to be careful and watch what you say that involves women and society even if you make good points. You're supposed to shut up and never question anything or go against anything society tells you to believe in. If you're gonna cancel him, you have to cancel other people that spew quote "hate" about men. You can't pick and choose who gets a free pass just because of their gender

[Bluemax]

Those are private entities so they are within their rights to ban him.

That being said, any entity that bans people based on words cannot legitimately claim to support the maximized free spread of ideas. I am against *any* ban on speech, regardless what that speech is.

[USLegionary]

No. Basically to silence someone's free speech you just claim its hate speech.

[SunnyCaliGirl]

It makes the media vary obvious they want only certain agendas on their platforms
I don’t agree with everything Mr. Tate has to say, but thankfully his opinions don’t affect my life. Though Tate still has every right to his thoughts just as I do my own.
Tate is not the 1st to be kicked off social media for having his own thoughts voiced and probably won’t be the last either.
The media is a vicious cycle.

[Wubs3000]

I don't agree with him at all and I think they had every right to ban him but it doesn't sit right with me to ban people. But he had it coming anyways

[purplepoppy]

I first heard of him on here from some woman hating incel. As I understand it he attacked a woman with a belt and he posts stuff promoting violence against women. I think any woman who's been attacked by a follower of Tate has a case to sue him.

[LogicBomber]

The woke ass pink accounts and pathetic virgin simp blue accounts love censorship and silencing anything they don’t like.

The logical blue and pink accounts that aren’t afraid of the truth know that censorship is bullshit and people (mostly women) need to get thicker skin.

[melanieeeB]

I learned about him on here few days ago and well deserved.
He was just talking bullshit and I respect instagram for saving the brains of little boys and girls. He doesn't deserve a platform.

[ODC2112]

I don't know who this guy is.

Lately Facebook has been banning normal people from its platform, I have friends who are systematically banned, or blacklisted as shadow bans etc because they say different things from the left woke norm or the Putinian right-wing norm. Facebook is doing everything to lose users and will eventually make it.

[LostGirl9]

I don’t like Tate and don’t agree with the stuff I’ve seen him say in some videos (though I did watch it on twitter so it could be taken out of context, I don't know), but I don’t agree with censorship

[ShaTTeredMasterpeace]

I just heard of him for the first time a few weeks ago and did some digging for myself and yeahhhh lol. I can absolutely see why he was banned. And while freedom of speech is a thing, freedom from consequences is not.

[chris_987]

That's dumb because girls day worst things about men and no one bans them

[ShaTTeredMasterpeace]

@chris_987 like I said, freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences. That goes for everyone.

[chris_987]

Show me a consequence for when they say men are bad people, yeah because there is non.
And girls don't realize that

[MCheetah]

"Freedom of speech" is there to protect unpopular speech. It has to purpose to protect popular speech. "Freedom from consequences" is just what people say when they don't actually support free speech and just want censorship for things they personally dislike. It's the same as saying "Cancel Culture doesn't exist, it's consequence culture."

And no, I don't like Tate one bit and he can get raped by a rhino for all I care. But you can't have it both ways.

[MCheetah]

*no purpose to protect

[ShaTTeredMasterpeace]

@chris_987 if you're argument is "girls do it too" then you'll be arguing with yourself.

[ShaTTeredMasterpeace]

@MCheetah popular speech or not, there are consequences. Saying that doesn't mean I support censorship.

[MCheetah]

@ShaTTeredMasterpeace
The "consequences" are supposed to be somebody gets offended and you can choose to care about their hurt feelings or not. At worst, you might lose popularity and support with fans and lose some your income. The "consequences" are never supposed to be somebody single-handedly ending your career because they're a whiny pussy who can't handle words. But I know; society is full of pussies like that nowadays.

[chris_987]

Girl do a lot of things and get away with it. That's one of the perks of being a protected class

[Vendela]

@chris_987 "protected class" ? Did you seriously just refer to women as that? The same women that are too afraid to walk down the street without pepper spray because men will kidnap and take them? And then probably dismember them when they're done? You've got to be fucking kidding me. Stop whining dumbass you sound stupid AF. If you wanna get pampered by some obedient woman, go back to live with mommy. Goofy ass

[Vendela]

Kidnap and RAPE them is what I meant, don't know why it autocorrected

[chris_987]

Lol women and children first comes from the idea that women are a protected class. You can kill the men in society but you can use the women to procreate, so all you did was prove my point.

[Vendela]

@chris_987 "all you did was prove my point 🤓" literally where? You still sounding mad goofy

[ShaTTeredMasterpeace]

@MCheetah on his own platform maybe but he's on someone else's and the consequences are left up to them.

[chris_987]

Of you too stupid to realize how dumb you are that your problem

[WeeeISee]

@chris_987 nope sorry. Violence against women and children is up too because of men. We have every right to act the way we are.

[NathanDavis]

I don't know...

I don't know the Facebook guidelines nor what this person has done there

but Facebook is a private company, so "fair" does not mean much in this context, lol