Do you believe in fate or destiny?

[sassygal4]

Do you believe in fate or destiny? Why or why not? Any interesting stories?

Yes, I believe.

No, I don't.

Not sure.

[ilovelegs]

Yes I do. God's WILL will always be done, but even though he knows how he wants things to turn out, it's all done by our own free wills. There's no way we can ever hope to understand that. Like before the creation of the world he knew what choices each person was going to make and he was able to put people in the right places at the right time based on their own free wills that he knew they were going to make. But I don't believe in predestination that has to do with no matter what we do there will be a certain specific outcome. We have free will and make our own choices and are put to the test just like the Angels were and Adam and Eve. This is where because of everyone's free will out choices conflict with each others so often when there's not harmony. But it is just amazing how one person makes a choice and another one makes a choice unbeknown to the other and because of their mutual choices they end up falling in love at a very young age, and their history takes them to be married 65 years before one of them dies. Strangely enough, the other one dies within a day later.

[gotc147]

No, I do not believe in fate or destiny. Every outcome of every aspect of our lives is completely determined by ours and other peoples actions at the time. I do not believe we are born with a "timeline" in front of us, only behind us.

The future is not written, remember that the greatest plan lasts until the first arrow leaves the bow.

If destiny and fate did exist, that would mean that God would be involved in the making of it. If this were true, and he did plan out each individule's life before they were born, let me ask this: Why did he make some people do terrible things? Gengis Khan, Julious Ceasar, Napoleon Bonaparte, Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden... Why would the Lord program these men to do what they did? What they did goes against every religion I know of.

No, we make our own destiny, and it is constantly shifting, nobody ever has a "set" outcome until it acctually happens, and that outcome is determined only by choices that we make, and the actions and reactions of our surroundings.

[AJtogo]

Those notorious figures do have their purpose because without great evil we can't have great good. Think of it this way, if everyone was good then how would we know what was evil.

[gotc147]

If God has his own idea of what is good and what is evil then why didn't he program humans only to do good? Then there would be no such thing as evil and he wouldn't have to worry about it.

[sassygal4]

Because he gave us free will. I believe we still make our own choices everyday, but that there is some kind of a plan. Our choices just delay or change the plans. I've been in several situations where something was going to happen, but I decided otherwise, and then maybe months or years later, I'm right back in the same position, making the same choice again. I believe sometimes timing has a lot to do with things and everyone is connected somehow.

[gotc147]

That's exactly what I'm saying, if God had good and evil defined, I can't help but wonder why he allowed humans free will, more specifically, the ability to choose to do evil.

If he has some kind of plan in place, why would he give humans the ability to alter it in any way?

And of course the question that has been asked throughout all the ages: Why would God create an imperfect being? If he was trying to create a perfect one and failed, why didn't he simply destroy it (us)?

[sassygal4]

Because we'd be just like animals. There'd be no type of development. Our imperfections lead to mistakes which lead to discoveries. Look at all the things humans have come up with. Yes, there are the bad things and the people who choose to do wrong, but I have always believed in people and there are more good people than bad people in the world. What would a perfect being be like anyway? I don't believe that there's such a thing as true perfection. It's all relative really.

[gotc147]

Maybe we would be just like animals, but we at least wouldn't be continiously defying God's will. I guess I should point out that according to the Christians and their idea of the 7 deadly sins, there is not a single human alive who will be going to heaven.

[sassygal4]

Personally I don't believe in religion and all those rules because those are man-made and no human is perfect or capable of really knowing God's will without screwing it up in some way. Just like the plans for our lives that we continuously go against at times.

[gotc147]

So what are you saying? Do you believe that destiny is written at or before creation?

I'm sorry to go against all religious views but I would rather believe science, and quite often science and relgion have butted heads.

[sassygal4]

I'm not really sure when destiny is written. I don't think that really matters, just that it is written at some point.

The religious thing doesn't work for me either, but I do believe there is a God or some higher power out there. There are too many "coincidences" and strange occurrences in life that I can't believe otherwise. Of course science can prove various things, but there are certain things that are left unanswered still. Oh and you should never apologize for your opinion. :)

[gotc147]

When the Church was still in its infantcy, it was engaged in at least one war for power. When it found itself loosing that war, it created what would today be considered terrorism. It fabricated "proof" of heaven and hell and drilled into the people's minds that if they don't adhere to a certain way of life they will go to hell. Well, people didn't want to go to hell so they were scared into living the way the Chruch wanted, thus winning the war for power.

So I think religion is bulls*ht.

[gotc147]

As far as acctually believeing there is a God, I have many questions about that, so I have to say my jury is still out on that one.

[sassygal4]

Yes, I know all about the church's plots to gain power over people, that's why religion is a no-go for me too. But there is a difference between religion and faith. It's been shown that one of the biggest similarities most civilizations share is a belief in a higher power. Whether it be God or not, most civilizations have some sort of belief in a god-like being. Men make all those silly religion rules up, but there's no denying that some things can't be explained.

[sassygal4]

I like to believe that there is something out there that is more powerful than all of us. I too questioned it before, but ultimately couldn't getting away from believing in something. I call it God, but who knows what it really is.

[crazy-in-luv]

i believe in destiny/fate. because there are some things which do happen without ur having to do anything about them,and those things will also happen if you do something about them...i am not saying that you shouldnt do anything to get what you want-but that god always gives a sign.

i don't think there can be coincidences a huge no. of times.

the biggest problem is that no one can ever know this.its a very ambiguous position.

perhaps ur unaction was the action you were supposed to take to get through a particular situation...1 can never know for sure what it is,except through belief.

its ur own belief..and every1 is entitled to their own,right?

I do think there are a lot of aspects of religion which are problematic,but there are those whch are purely practical as well..no1 seems to contest them..just because people don't understand something,doesnt mean they can condemn it.

the question I ask is this:if for instance,we can't prove the presence of something like fate or destiny in our lives, we can neither prove its absence,do we?

[crazy-in-luv]

Oh,thank you for thinking of it as the best answer.i am flattered :)

[forgive-cant-forget]

i don't know if I do but I did have something really weird happen. my friend hooked up with this one guy one night he was with his brother that I met we went to eat some where real wuick while they did there thing. we bearly even talked that night didn't exchange numbers or any thing so 2 years pass by I always saw this hot ass guy in the club we statrted talking and seeing each other when I came to visit then I don't know one day I was like this guy looks like the one from 2 yeas ago that my friend hooked up with his brother so I started asking him if he has a brother, if had a black car he was yes how do you know so I refreshed his memory we both were tripping out how we ran into each other after 2 years hooked up never knew we even met each other before.

[thelittlethings]

Ok so I believe that everything does happen for a reason. I also believe that there is greater plan set out for everyone and everyone is meant to get to a certain point in their lives. They are meant to accomplish certain things, learn certain things, meet certain people, etc. But I do not believe every detail is pre-planned. If God wants to teach me a lesson about something he is going to but he is going to plan out how I will learn it. My own life decisions and choices will lead me to the lesson in my own way, because that is the only way that is will mean something to me. So yeah everything happens for a reason, but no, you're life wasn't planned out.

[olwiggy82]

I totally believe that everything happens for a reason and there is no such thing as coincidence but I do not believe that my life was planned out for me. For example, I don't believe that God had planned for me to walk to the art store at 1:00 this afternoon to buy blue paint.

An occurance that I think illustrates my belief is this: Almost 3 years ago I had a seizure while driving and blacked out, drove head-on into oncoming traffic, and collided my small car with a very large truck. My car was totalled beyond recognition. My front end was totally crushed, windows were shattered, glass was everywhere. I had to have my door cut off so the paramedics could get me out. I should have died. There was no way someone could have survived that accident and yet I walked away without even a miniscule scratch on me. I don't know why my life was spared but there has to be a reason why I survived my accident when a few months prior a man in a similar situation ended up decapitated.

[Belleza]

No - no interesting stories but I just believe in fate and destiny! I'm a big fan of destiny because I just believe that these things do happen to us for a reason! That's what keeps me going everyday that when a great thing happens - it was meant to happen and it will be your choice to set it free!

[PrickeyPear]

Well as the minority here - I don't believe in fate/destiny. I think it's interesting that someone below has the same reasons for believing in it that I have for not believing in it.

believing that I am in complete control of where I end up in life is what drives me in life. Otherwise, what's the point of even getting up in the morning or making choices?

[Shlei3]

I don't think that our lives are written out for us ahead of time. I do believe that things happen for a reason. For example. I have survived many events that I should not have. I should have died statistically and logically speaking. Same goes for my father. Not only that but I believe in what we do today will affect and effect us tomorrow. Everything that I have done in my life came back with repurcussions both good and bad.

[joesphnuthowser]

i think I just believe in fate. like if you didn't go somewhere, or if your friend didn't make you go somewhere, then something wouldn't have happened. like if you didn't go to some party that you met the guy you loved at, then you would still be alone.

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[AJtogo]

Fate and destiny are synonymous terms. Perhaps a comparison of fate vs. self-determination would be more applicable.

[sassygal4]

Yeah, I meant them as the same, just that people sometimes use one or the other. The question is really just if you believe or not.

[Anonymous]

Man creates his destiny ans calls it fates.

If you are destined for something you are bound to get it.

But that doesn't mean I don't do anything for it.

For instance like I am destined for a good meal but I make no efforts to attend the party.

[txchic2009]

I just posted a question about that. Its under relationships and the title is Destiny or BIG coincidence? good story on there too.

[The-Dude-Next-Door]

I write my own destiny

[mattkevin1991]

I agree... :D I create my own destiny :D