Dreamcatchers are a native American tradition, these objects are usually put in bedrooms to bring good dreams and stop bad dreams from entering your head. Actually, I've seen many people experiencing the exact opposite of this. Some people especially Christians experienced nightmares when they put it in their bedroom and the nightmares are gone when the dreamcatcher is removed. Actually, I've seen some YouTubers saying that since it's a pagan item it brings bad spirits and demons. Since any pagan related idol statue or occult ritual item brings demons. In fact I know people who had lot of pagan intems in their house like statues of budah, hindu gods, African masks, Norse pagan stuff and when they removed it they felt their house became more spiritual and bad dreams and demonic attacks stopped.
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Is saying that I beleibe jesus is the only true God "close minded"? But pagans saying their gods are the only true gods not close minded? And how is that even arrogant
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*sighs* you have too make this up, I shall try to explain this as best as I can.
A dreamcatcher isn’t demonic and it isn’t pagan they stop bad dreams so if your getting more with it in the room then one of two things are happing 1. your so chaotic in your mind the it is trying to stop your bad dreams and in my experience if I try to ground someone is ultimately too chaotic mentally it in fact makes that chaos even worse hence why removing it stops them because it isn’t trying too too ground you.
2. Since you said Native American stuff are pagan you are making this up to carry on shitting on the word pagan.
Now I shall explain this too you a pagan is a person who doesn’t use rituals or rites they worship the ground animals and sky, a witch is known a root worker who does use rituals and rites but are solitary and like the name suggest the work with roots meaning plants. I have a Icelandic stave tattoo on my wrist and it is doing what I intend it too do, to ward off people who seek to me harm and having a "pagan item" (whatever that means) does nothing unless you stole a ritually charged item from them and if you did then sorry but what happens to you for stealing is your own fault. It is all about intent and will power.
There is no one I met that is actually practices the craft that claims and means their Gods are the one true God because they know that saying is very very wrong for there is a room of many Gods and Goddess.
First of all, native Americans are pagans. Or at least heathens. 2nd if it has a spiritual power or a magical power and since this power isn't from God then it is from demons.
1. No they are not and heathsim is known as amimsim, triblsim or Odinsim which are different practices completely plus Native American practices are more like Sharamism.
2. That power comes the person which is performing the rites p and we all are born with natural in built psychic ability and can use our own power of will to manipulate the world around them which doesn’t need anything on the spiritual level to be involved.
3. Saying Native Americans are using demons when infact they are far more spitball than the bible is very word too me, no matter who much horse shot you sprout the bible is far more demonic than any so called pagan practice. Pagan practices are all about being in a personal relationship with your Gods their church is the earth and unlike Christianity we respect the earth that give us everything and the sky and sea all your trying too do is argue that you have all the knowledge and power and that your God is kind and good, if that was true then your God is evil unkind and hateful just look at what your doing if he likes this behaviour then it says a lot.
What behaviour? Yes, my God is kind. I don't have to apologize for saying that I only worship my God and only love my god. Pagans started attacking us ever since moses, and then in the middle ages, and still till today, yet no one remembers that.
No me remembers it because it ain’t true, history tells us that Romans’ brought Christianity too Britain then from there too the US and along the way pagans where burned tournament and killed then you have the witch trials.
No you don’t need to apologise for your chose religion however you do need too apology for demonising paganism for no reason. Your behaviour saying pagan items bring demons (untrue) saying that a Dreamcatcher is bringing demons (untrue) saying pagans worship the devil (untrue pagans don’t voice the devil even exists) the list does go on why you need too apologise.
I don't demonize paganism as a whole, I demonize some pagans. One of my best friends on here is a pagan. But native Americans weren't as good as you think, they had some occult rituals
Let me point this out a dreamcatcher is evil because it is pagan item and you stated that pagan items being demons they are untrue on both accounts but your not demonising?
Now people should be judged by their own actual deeds not by beliefs, gender I. D, sexuality or race but by the actions they do. I don’t care if you have 100 pagan mates I will still tell you when your out of order which you are. Native Americans may have done some bad shit but the bad they have done is far out weighed by any actions Christians have done so let’s not open that book yeah?
Beliefs says a lot about the person, if someone claims to be a Muslim then according to what he claims he wants to kill me. I didn't say that, I said as Christians we shouldn't have any pagan items in our house becasue that means we worship someone else instead of God, by God I mean the trinity or yahweh
Not true I know Christians who actively take part in pagan practice meaning they will use a pentagram and a cross, they worship God not Gods they see angels as divine Authority and read the bible. Judging someone based on religion is ultimately wrong because going by that logic you as a Christian are racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic and very sexist, you seek to murder me I. E burn me at the stake etc etc are you? And do you? Fanatics are everywhere and in every faith but judging the many for the actions of the few is closed minded and frankly says more about you than them.
Dreamcatchers have been Integrated into your faith just like Christmas, Easter and Halloween which are pagan holidays if you like I could tell you about tier roots. In that topic the holy trinity is also based on pagan Mother, Madien, Crone it is called the triple Goddess and was used by the old Celtic peoples of Ireland. Look up the tipple Goddess
I am not sexist, and the bible isn't sexist, but I am "homophobic" I don't know where did racist come from but to some level I don't like some cultures. So yeah.
The bible is inspired by other cultures for example the Muslims actually had their faith before the bible did so hating them is hating your own roots. If your homophobic then you shouldn’t be allowed too practice because your is what is wrong with faith and paganism looks friendly compared to you we don’t hate homosexuals or any other LGBTQI+ member we welcome them. That is why your faith is dying out.
I.. I don't know what to even say... muslims came centuries after christianity. Our religion didn't start in the time of jesus it started in the time of Adam himself.
Nothing you can say it is a fact when the Jews (the Jewish faith is where the bible is rooted and is the original form of the faith) left Egypt and found the holy lands Muslims came over after they settled Muslims are the descendants of both the Romans and the Egyptians. Jesus Christ wasn’t white he was Jewish and God is also Jewish and all the angels, like Christianity the Muslims changed the their faith Mohammed was Muslim and he is part of the bible, King Solomon was Muslim and now you see the history of the bible, it was changed to suite white men in the dark ages. Nothing I the bible is Christian or Catholic is like the USA was made by different cultures. Hating a culture that made the bible is only one of the hypocrisy that comes with the Christians.
Well to start with, idol worship is actually worshiping demons let these verses:
“What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing? But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.” 1 Corinthians 10:19-20 KJV
On the subject of dream catchers, I don't know. Some people have them as a cultural symbol. I suppose it’s about the intent. I don’t see them as an item used in Native American worship.
Why is that everyone who holds the same opinions as you can only ever cite YouTube videos as sources of information? Some guy speaking in his car isn't evidence of anything (other than the fact that he can't do his videos at home, for what I can imagine are obvious reasons).
It really doesn't matter where he makes the video... I don't get the point. Instead of writing everything down the video has everything I wanted to say
That's not the point I was making, I was more highlighting that that's just one man talking about his view on the world. If I make a YouTube video about Steve, the Almighty Penguin (Fish Be around Him), that doesn't make my view any more accurate or supported by evidence.
The reason I called it sticks, string, and feathers is because that's exactly what it is. It might carry meaning to people, but that's the extent of it. There's no evidence that it's anything more than that beyond stories.
Again, that could be easily explained by the psychological aspect of its presence, like a placebo effect. Similar techniques are used to induce lucid dreaming.
Do you have any scientific research to support your claim?
Thanks for the tip, I like nitemares so mite hang a shitload of em round the house, got one & a couple of spiders live in it. They catch some of the mozzies n flies n shit so that means if I've got 20 dreamcatchers !!
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I don't know i'm not going to insult Native Americans but i'll just say i wouldn't want one in my home. Chist looks out for me and that's good enough for me.
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Christians are known to bash other religions. So they come up with these stories to "prove" their point. Dream catchers are a money-grab, that's it. There's nothing demonic about thread and feathers
You know what. I'm actually not surprised that dream catchers dont work for you. Considering the relationship history between the native American tribes and Christian's.
Dont give me that crap about how that was so long ago, the last residential school in Canada was closed down 23 years ago, that's not very long ago. One soul can hold a grudge for his lifetime, many together can hold a grudge for thousands. Maybe it's not because the dream catcher is demonic. Maybe it's because the spirits of the land have not forgiven you.
It's an idol. You pray to it every day. It doesn't need to be pagan. It is a representation of yaweh and jesus christ.
Same as the rosary, it's a representation of Mary, who is a saint. And saints are basically demi gods. If you lose something you pray to st. Anthony right? And if you had a painting of st. Anthony that would be an idol.
You can argue with me till we're blue in the face, but I believe that all religions are true.
Alright stop right here, saints are not semi Gods, they're just human beings who happen to have a good pure faithful life so we take them as an example, we do not worship them. If I have a picture of George Washington in my room it doesn't mean that this is idolatry since I just have it because I like him. As for crucifixes they symbolize one God, the only one true god. And jesus christ is God
Wow that blew right over your head. Why not try to be open minded for once in your life. This is why I left Catholicism. Nothing but closed minds and arrogance
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