What do you know about islam? Do you think it just a religion of terrorism or is it a religeon of peace and love?

[wafaeelharrouni]

Nowadays while watching tv or scrolling in the internet i just notice there's a lot of people who misunderstood "islam" and most of them are called Islamophobic.
So i was thinking why do people hate islam and why the cctv talk bad about islam and only islam (especially when it comes to hijab) when though none of them know the religion or talked with a muslim or tried to read quran and know what islam give woman and man..
So can you share with me your opinion and your beliefs about islam?

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Of course i don't have the right to kill and for the "tafsir" people in generale muslim should accept it to understand more the quran cause it's the scientist of religion who made it after reading and understanding the hadith of mohammed

[Anonymous]

Islam is a huge cult of terrorism, intolerance, discrimination and violance. That’s it. They go to none muslim countries and commit terrorism, crime, rape. They install their own ”sharia police”, abuse dogs, rape women, rape animals, murder their own daughters and sisters for ”honour”. Demand society changes to accomodate them and their beliefs and screams racism and discrimination as soon as someone won’t bow down to them and accept all their demands. Won’t participate and integrate into the countries and societies they’ve voluntarily moved to, demand special treatment and special food in schools for their kids. Live on benefits, don’t want to work or even learn the language. Shame women who won’t cover up in sheets and calling them whores, lie to non muslims, try to take over the world, blow their own and neighboring countries up, won’t let women out of the house alone basically, hate jews, hate gays. Shout about their haram, fight their so called jihad, still killing people by stoning in in certain muslim countries, calling people dogs, don’t believe womens words or stories of being for example being raped, belittle and discriminate against women regarding everything from marriage/divorce, legal rights and freedom. Islam is one of the absolute worst religions in the world and the fact so many of them live by and preach these sort of stone age like practices and beliefs is ridiculous. There are absurd things in other religious books/rligions as well but the difference is you don’t generally see them being upheld and preached in other religions today. You do see that in the muslim world. Islam is the root of so much evil and misery in the world today it’s unbelievable and you’d have to be a brainwashed psychopath to believe any of that shit and be unable to see the absurdness of it all. And you say that people who critize islam never met a muslim. That in itself is just more proof of how clueless you are. You believe the world don’t like you because they don’t know you/what your religion stands for and how it’s practiced around the world but it’s the opposite. You’re hated and frowned upon because people see and know exactly what you’re doing and what your religion is standing for. You’re causing chaos, terror, crime and general misery wherever the f you go. Yes, I have met many many muslims, have read about islam and islamic countries, read studies about muslims and their opinions and gone to school in a no go zone where as per usual mostly muslims live. You don’t see buddhist or christian neighbourhoods being no go zones.

[wafaeelharrouni]

The fact you said that they rape animals... that's not a real muslim if you talk with them in islams you'll notice they don't know anything about islam they just called themselves as a muslim that's it also when you said killed women and girl that was before the islam come in when arabs not arabs even European used to kill girls and women but after that islam came he banned killing girls and women and they said that if a girl is born she's the one who can enter her parent to paradise and if she's married she finish her and husband religion and if she became a mom jannah (paradise) is under her feets so if you treat a girl or a women bad in a bad way then you are doing a huge sin.
About the racisme let's be honest if you saw a muslim beside wearing a jilbab or anything what will be your reaction a lot of people especially girls start screaming or saying bad things even thought he didn't do anything ,
Live on benifits its not all muslim you can found also Christians and jews... who don't want to work or learn something new if we see a lot of muslims know and learn the languages its hard to find someone living somewhere and do not know how to talk... shaming women is not islam its in the culture after that muhammed s. a. w died a lot of people tend to change what he said about the right of a women like in islam aomen have already the right to work and od what she want and also when she get married she have the right to take her husband money to buy stuff but her husband doesn't have the right to take her money also she have yhe right to work at any work she want and no one can say no to her but arabs culture tend to change that right so that man can have a privilege after they saw that women have all their right...

[wafaeelharrouni]

killing in muslim countries do you know that the problem of the war in muslim country's was started after that arabs found the oils and america knew that so america start the war so that she can benefit of the oils and what arab have and also so that arab do not be like Europe and if you see all tge wars was started by america and england in the first day

[wafaeelharrouni]

Do not believe women is a culture thing and its not only in arabs country its in a lot of other country... and bullying people for there beliefs or how they it's a sin in islam and islam say it clearly that he do not allow people bullying and mocking people for their looks or beliefs and if you really learn about islam then you'll know all what i said and you'll know the difference between culture and islam.

[UserGAG]

Correct your grammar. I hardly understood you.

[Espresso-Grande]

I don't know a lot about Islam. Muslim's as a whole are not united in their beliefs. There's sects with Islam, and people pick and choose which scriptures they want to follow. They interpret the scriptures to suit their own beliefs and lifestyle. I know this, because I have known and spoken to many Muslim's over the years. I even dated a Muslim guy once

[wafaeelharrouni]

Yeah nowadays muslim pick just what they want which it's saf cause they do not follow what religion says word by word

[Anonymous]

MohammedJesus/YeshuaSaid Allah does not love those who reject Islam (Qu. 30.45, 3.320) Said God loves everyone (John 3:16) Stoned women for adultery“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” (John 8:7) Permitted stealing from unbelievers (Bukhar44.668, Ibn Ishaq 764)“Thou shalt not steal” (Matthew 19:18) Permitted lying (Sahih Muslim 6303)“Thou shalt not bear false witness.” (Matthew 19:18) Owned, traded slaves (Sahhih Muslim 3901) Never had slavesBeheaded 800 Jewish men & boys (Abu Dawud4390) Beheaded no oneMurdered those who insulted Islam (Bukhari 56.369) Preached forgiveness (Matthew 18:21)

[wafaeelharrouni]

And also muhammed said that he's the most close to jesus (isaa) and told us that the real muslim are the one who believe in jesus and all the other messanger and respect all the religion

[WesBrewer]

I know a bit about it, the religion itself says in the Quran to be terrorists but most Muslims are peaceful and loving people, it's just the extremists that are terrorists.

[wafaeelharrouni]

The part of the quran it's wrong cause in the quran it never said we should to be terrorist and it's a huge sin to kill people espexially when they are innocent but instead it say that we should to accept other with their own beliefs also we should to be modest cause allah hate the arrogant people who thinks they are the king of the world by their money or whenever

[WesBrewer]

You must have not read the whole Quran because there are many passages about killing, for example:
2-191: And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.
47-4: So, when you meet, those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly.
9-29: Fight against those who believe not in Allah
3-56: As to those who disbelieve, I will punish them with a severe torment in this world and in the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers."
3-151: We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they joined others in worship with Allah, for which He had sent no authority; their abode will be the Fire and how evil is the abode of the Zalimun
5-33: We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they joined others in worship with Allah, for which He had sent no authority; their abode will be the Fire and how evil is the abode of the Zalimun
8-12: when your Lord inspired the angels, "Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes."
4-104: And don't be weak in the pursuit of the enemy; if you are suffering then surely, they are suffering as you are suffering, but you have a hope from Allah that for which they hope not.
8-39: And fight them until there is no more Fitnah and the religion will all be for Allah Alone.

[wafaeelharrouni]

No i read it and does verses doesn't talk about terrorism and being a terrorist its talk about war

[WesBrewer]

what I meant by being terrorists is what these verses are saying, and they are saying do this always not just in war.

[WesBrewer]

also, it is saying we are in a constant war with other religions, so always in war, either way.

[wafaeelharrouni]

Ibn Kathir, Tafsir Ibn Kathir,

“Concerning the verse “If two groups of believers fall to fighting” Q. 49.9) and “fight against them until there is no ‘fitnah’” (Q.2:193), he answered: “We done all this in the time of Prophet. At that time, we came minority so that a Moslem was be faced by fitnah in his religion, either he would be killed or would be the victim of oppression. When the Moslem community grows as powerful adherents, killing oppression has gone.” Based on this argument, we can conclude that ‘fitnah’ should be defined as any oppression or forcing Moslem to do or not to do something against his rights as human being; all this being ratio legis or cause to proclaim fight against oppressor or those who want to kill them.”

[wafaeelharrouni]

This the tafsir of the first verse you gave me

[wafaeelharrouni]

In conclusion, as we have examined the Arabic word ‘fitna’, and the context of passage, the verse does not promote the killing of innocent people. As shown, the passage shows that Muslims were allowed to fight those who were persecuting the Muslims, 1400 years ago. In other words, the passage sanctioned fighting in self-defence.

[wafaeelharrouni]

If you want i can send you the other explanation of every verse you gave me so that you understand more of what it written in the quran

[WesBrewer]

fitnah is translated as "unbelief" or "disorder", so it is saying that those who don't believe are doing something worse than killing, therefore it is ok to kill them

[WesBrewer]

certainly, that is a translation of it (the tafsir), but some people reject that, it is also the opinion of a person not what is actually says, as well as the fact that it doesn't (the tafsir) condemn the act of killing people, and what if you feel that I am oppressing you now, doesn't that mean you have the rights to kill me and chop of my fingers?

[WesBrewer]

at least his is how I see it

[UserGAG]

@WesBrewer If you oppress her she has a right to kill you or severely beat your ass! Like George Carlin said: "Live and let live." And anyone who can't go along with that, take him outside and shoot the motherfucker. You took the verses from the Qur'an out of context and that makes you look like a liar and stupid! Every verse in the Qur'an concerning fighting is in self defense. Look back at what you read.

[UserGAG]

The whole: "Live and let live." And anyone who can't go along with that, take him outside and shoot the motherfucker.-- Is what the late George Carlin said.

[Quidthonian]

I know about the 5 daily prayers. Also about the basics of Halaal (which is slightly different from Kosher). Mecca is the holy city, and a pilgrimage is compulsory*. The Islamic calendar is based on the Moon: the layout of the months is not known in advance as it relies on local observations of the new moon. Furthermore, the Islamic calendar "drifts" with respect to the Western solar calendar.
The month of Ramadaan is the 9th in the year and consists of fasting during day-light hours. I have heard first-hand stories of people struggling (which is the intention, IMHO) during this month.
As for terrorism, its is done by a tiny, fanatical minority. However, all religions have their "violent convincers".

[masonova1]

The American prejudice certainly has something to do with Americans hating brown people. As for comparing it to, say, Christianity -- I mean come on. They're on, like, year 900 or so of a global terror campaign. Islamic cultures and doctrines taking a little longer to realize women's rights and separate church from state is just a drop in the bucket.

[wafaeelharrouni]

To be honest i'm not sure about america but i know they have a hand on it.. but the fact you told islamic culture take a little longer to realize women's rights it's not the islamic culture is the arabs culture cause all the right that feministe are fighting around the world to get it islam are already give all this right to women 1400 years but the arabs culture tried to change it after that muhammed s. a. w died and their sahaba radiya lah a'alayhim so that women's do not know their right arabs man changed a lot of things and said that's written in quran or muhammed s. a. w said but its false nowadays muslim women know their right because they start searching in quran and reading sirah nabawiya (the life of mohammed s. a. w) just some of the toxic families who try to shut women up and i think it's the same for christianity

[OfDeath]

It's a false belief system like all religions. When people can be inculcated to believe things without evidence, they can be convinced to commit heinous acts. Given the unscrupulously discriminatory content of islamic scripture like the quran and the hadiths against all who don't believe its pretences and especially those who oppose it, the incitement of violence at the hands of indoctrinated muslims is ineluctable.

Steven Weinberg put it more succinctly than I could when he said: “With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”

[Anonymous]

Both. When Muhammad preached in Mecca, it was a religion of peace, but it only attracted about 100 followers in 10 years and then people got sick of him and kicked him out and he migrated to Medina where he started practicing Jihad. That's when the success of Islam started. It's important to know that Muhammad is the perfect example of a muslim. Muhammad and Allah are the only ones who can tell what Islam is and isn't.

[UnknownGagsUser]

I believe every religion always teach us good things , the bad part is people who take it the wrong way.

[wafaeelharrouni]

That's what i believe me too if you want to undertand a religion you should to try leaen and understand it in the good way

[007kingifrit]

its a violent religion that only spreads through war. it has lots of violent sex laws like where it says in the koran muslims have a duty to rape non muslims to humiliate them into joining the religion

or how about where it says you can marry at 4 and fuck them at 9

[wafaeelharrouni]

That's not true first of all its a sin to rape in quran secondly if islam (in the quran and sharia) disallow the fact that a muslim shouldn't marry a non muslim and they shouldn't get a sexual relation between a muslim and non muslim also between two muslims who aren't married so how can you say that he told us that we can rape a non muslim that's not true at all

[wafaeelharrouni]

I don't know where did you get the information but that's a false statement and if you want you can give me verses and im sure i can show the real meanin of that verses cause sometimes the traduction from arab to English its wron or can change the real meanin

[007kingifrit]

www.express.co.uk/.../Islam-Scholar-Saud-Saleh-Cairo-Slavery-Muslim-Women-Pagan-ISIS-Al-Azhar-University-Egypt

and its in the quaran en.wikipedia.org/.../Sexual_slavery_in_Islam

[wafaeelharrouni]

I just finished what you sent me and what i read and also based on my timy information this was beforewhen people used to do in every war but after the banned it by sending a verses about banning having a sexual relation with a non muslim also with women that its not your wife but the terrorist just keep doing it in the name of islam even thought it said a lot of times in syrat al baqara that its banned to do sex with a non mahram (wife or husband)

[Anonymous]

The issue people have with Islam is the Quran itself and the fact that it encourages violence and tells its followers to forcefully convert the world to Islam, which is reflected in the behavior of Muslins throughout the world. One need only observe the reaction of Muslins to anyone who publishes an article or cartoon that they find offensive... they riot and kill.

[wafaeelharrouni]

Who told you that quran told muslim toforce non muslim to convert to islam just lied to you caus in quran their are a whole surat talking about that which it say " لكم دينكم و لي دين " which mean in English you have your own relihion and beliefs and i have my o2n religeon and beliefs and propher mohammed used to say to never force someon to change his religion and never use violence toward people but sadly a lot of called muslim misunderstood the quran and use violence which is 100% not allowed in the religions if you want what quran says to muslim hou should to search what muslim scientist said and read the story of muhammed cause that when you'll know the real islam that so called terrorists we don't claim theme in our society as a muslims and also they don't kill omly non muslims but also muslim tbh

[wafaeelharrouni]

And about the cartoon i won't say that the kid who killed be's right he is not and he should get what he deserve but also people shouldn't disrespect a prophet and hide behind Freedom of speech when they try to not allow muslims to wear hijabs and when they try to cover their sins... between you said terrorisme so what im gonna call the man who anter the mosque and killed people their what we call when europs and america and israel killed kids in western and families.

[Opinion Owner]

"people shouldn't disrespect a prophet and hide behind Freedom of speech"

What you said right here ^ is very telling, and your attitude is indicative of the underlying mindset that muslins have about this issue. You may not like someone "disrespecting" your prophet, but it happens to Christians literally every day of every year across the globe. Do you see hundreds of thousands of Christians rioting about it like Muslims do?

Sorry, but freedom of speech trumps your "right" to not be offended, and if you disagree with that then you are part of the problems I was referring to.

[wafaeelharrouni]

Sorry but we have a huge respect for our religion and also islam banned to disrespect mohammed s a w and other prophet even isaa (jesus) but its not our false if you guys do not try to stop jocking about jesus if you really respect jesus every Christian will stand against the fact of disrespecting isaa (jesus) ... im not saying stand against by killing cause islam christianity and jews banned the fact of killing people so don't try to change my words cause i say "people shouldn't disrespect a prophet and hide behind FREEDOM of speech" i didn't say "people should kill "

[wafaeelharrouni]

If you read my comment very well they you'll see that i wrote by saying that the kid who killed the teacher he's not right and he should to get the punishment that he deserve.

[Opinion Owner]

"... but its not our false if you guys do not try to stop jocking about jesus if you really respect jesus"

The point is not what Christians do or don't do when they get offended, it's what Muslims do consistently when they get offended. You asked a question here and I gave you an answer, and gave you examples of why I and most people feel the way they do about Islam. YOUR attitude is precisely why Islam is so hated around the world today. If Muslims want to try being good citizens and strongly condemning the actions of the MANY terrorist Muslims every year, you can fix the problem you have created for yourselves by demonstrating you are good people. But instead, you just make excuses like you are doing here. This is a problem of your own making, and only you can fix it.

[Jackblue]

I couldn't care less about the Hijab, however, Muslims as a body seem uninterested in expressing regret for any of the bad things their ancestors have done in history whether its the second class citizenship my people (Jews) endured, the Moorish occupation of Spain, the Ottoman invasions of Europe, deliberately spreading the black death in Europe at the siege of Caffa 1346, the slave trade in Africa, the Barbary pirates, and the brutal conquest of India.

[TheFlak38]

the religion of shit, murder, terrorism, slavery, bigotry and oppression.

[wafaeelharrouni]

No no one oppressed someone to do what he want (if you talk about hijab muslim girl wear hijab when they think they are ready to wear it our prophet claim that no one have the right to oppress someone to do something he don't want to do it, also what do you call when people tried to get off your hijab and told you not to wear it when you love it what you call that a freedom or oppression by the society i really want to know... ) and the real muslim is the one who beliefs in jews and christianity if we hate one of it then we aren't a real muslim we just pretend to be muslims that's first, secondly terrorism and murder in quran is one of the biggest sin that god might not forgive also if we watch the history and we try to know ghe right thing and try to be more friendly with muslims family then you noticed that the most people who get killed by the terrorist are not Christians or jews most of them are muslim also if they try to kill Christians then why they don't beging in morocco or tunisia we have christian in morocco and jews also but non of them get killed... i hope you try to learn more about each religion not from media and cctv

[TheFlak38]

Needless to say I didn't finish reading your nonsensical rant. Your religion also says that you must lie to infidels in order to gain their trust so you can fuck them over later which is what you're trying to do right now. Try it on someone else. It doesn't work on me.
And by the way here is the "fuck islam" video:
https://youtu.be/zgJWBr1u9-c

[wafaeelharrouni]

Ooh i know where do you have this opinion is that you already watch a haters of islam videos so you try to argument with this istead of watching a video of muslims and trying to know the religions from muslims

[TheFlak38]

I'm not a muslim who has to get brainwashed and flogged in public to follow certain beliefs. Unlike you I have the freedom to make my research and make my own opinion. That's the difference between muslims and the rest of the world. The entire world is sick of your barbaric beliefs and fucked up religion. Even buddhists who are among the most peaceful people in this world are sick of your assallahu sallahu salah shit.

[wafaeelharrouni]

Everyone heve the right to search me too if i found something bad in quran and wanted to change my religion i can change it and no one have the right to tell me no we have the freedom and choice to do what we want and beliefs what we want also is not assallahu sallahu salah its assalato a'alayhi wasalam and the so you call it barbaric it's not only islam who do it everywhere you'll find good and bad people but you just try to see islam and you don't want to see other

[TheFlak38]

Spot the biggest lie: "if i found something bad in quran and wanted to change my religion i can change it and no one have the right to tell me no"
I will report you to your local imam. I think he might have a word or two to say about this. You'll get flogged in public in the best case. Because others have been murdered for this.

[wafaeelharrouni]

No i knew some people who were muslim and change it and no one said something to them and i know some Christians and atheist and they becomed muslim everyone choos a religion where he want to be and where he feel good in it

[loooooop]

I hate religion in general, especially those that trend toward violence. Christianity and Islam for example.

[wafaeelharrouni]

Religion's never trend towards violence is the people who misunderstand what bible and quran or Torah said but i respect your opinion

[loooooop]

The crusades say otherwise

[Pete671]

perfectly said!

[wafaeelharrouni]

If you try to know about sometimes even the traduction like quran its in arabic which you can find one world have a lot of meaning and some traducted in the wrong meaning so a lot of people misunderstand the verse that why a lot of muslim when they want to buy a quran they always search if the quran is traducted by a famouse scientist of islam oe religion if its not then they won't buy it , that's is one of the most things that made people misunderstand it or think the verses is violent which is not and i think its the same for other religion you should to know the right traduction and after that we have people who just want to kill or rape kids... and they always say "OH! My religion told me" which is not right none of the religion said you should to be violent kill rape... they just try to hide behind the religion so people won't judge them but judge the religion...

[loooooop]

I don't care what people hide behind. If the trend of violence has a common thing that people hide behind then that thing should be controlled or regulated. For example mental illnesses and drugs. This is why asylums exist and rehab exists.

[Anonymous]

I think is areligion that don't accept Jesus as Mesaia and moust of the time they belive in the olt testament and some interpretation are in diferent way from my religion.

[stuntbrain]

The religion of peace that will kill you for drawing a picture of the wrong guy

[wafaeelharrouni]

If you are talking about the one who draw the prophet i think it was disrespectful and disgusting cause we don't like that not even for our prophets Mohammed s. a. w but also for isaa (jesus) and other cause we do not like to disrespect those awesome and religious people... but i don't say that im okey with the fact of killing people cause even ALLAH told us that the big sin is killing someone cause allah give him birth because he loved him... but if you are in danger and someone want to kill you or your family and you don't have a choice just to kill him then it's not a big sin cause you killed him to protect innocent or protect yourself

[stuntbrain]

There's no problem with thinking it's wrong and disgusting. However, the greatest condemnation should be held for those who respond to disrespect with violence

[wafaeelharrouni]

Yeah of course they don't have the right to take a soul away

[UserGAG]

It would have set a better example to beat the cartoonist ass then to kill em. They gone too far.

[Levin]

You can't say anything against it without violence being threatened against you. Says it all, really.

I value freedom. Islam is the antithesis of freedom.

[wafaeelharrouni]

No if someone use violence when you said something bad then he's not right cause our prophet always told us to never use violence instead we should let them know the right think also god make a whole surat when the verses say لكم دينكم ولي دين which mean you have your own beliefs and religion and i have my own beliefs and religion so that muslim should respect everyone's beliefs and religion and not oppressed people to think at the same way.. you can share with that person your beliefs in islam and what you think.. and he can share you his beliefs and what he think but none of you have the right to oppress him ic he want to believe or not its his own choice

[Levin]

That's not been my experience. I have been threatened by Muslims quite a few times for going about my business.

[wafaeelharrouni]

You should to know they do not have the right to judge you and it's a sin cause in islam allah said that no one is perfect so if you try to judge people and show their negative things then one day allah show all your negative things to the world and if you are mocking them then in the judgment day that person that you used to bully him or mocking him will come and allah gonna give the freedom if he want to punish you or to forgive you... so im telling you if any muslims try to oppressed you or bully you.. or anyother things like you can get verses from quran just search it and some hadith and tell him that anx he will shut up unless if he just don't care about the religion and he just want to give a bad image to islam

[Levin]

Yeah, generally doesn't work against people trying to kill or rape you.

Unless you've come up against that kind of violence, you won't understand.

[wafaeelharrouni]

Yeah everyone who try to kill or rape you can't change his mind but im talking about muslim the one who don't want to kill or rape

[sky115]

Islam is not terrorism nor are the Islamic people. its the government's that are the terrorists. Sadly Americas government is the biggest. And I am an American.

[Pete671]

True Islam is awesome, people corrupt it,

[wafaeelharrouni]

Yeah the fact that people don't want to learn and understand each religion but keep talking in a bad way that's what i never understood tbh.. thank you for your opinion

[Astarlessnightsky]

It is a religion, like any other.

[Celtero]

Religion is annoying, Islam is the worst.

[wafaeelharrouni]

Why is it the worst for you

[Celtero]

Muslims I've encountered are rude, and I get the vibe that they feel anyone who isn't muslim is beneath them. There's a lot of violence over the world where there is islam.

[Mijopapii215]

It could be either