Is ultimate truth knowable?

[Anonymous]

[Dargil]

Yes, it is.
Gravity is real.
The Sun rises in the East.
Socialism has never worked, ever.

[Wade12345]

Actually, the original nation of Israel was socialistic. Even radically socialistic, and they existed for about 1100 years or so as a continuous civilization.

Have you (or any modern christian) ever actually read the Torah? About half the "laws" in the Bible are giving and tithing principles intended to help poor people out of poverty, most notably Rich people's fields are taxed about 45% and given to the poor, a nd every 50 years everyone's land and wealth is taken away and divided equally among the population so as to prevent a generational monopoly from ever existing. This system of government and economics continuously worked for over 1100 years before the Romans destroyed Israel for the last time.

If "christians" actually obeyed the Old Testament of the Bible, Capitalism would be constitutionally BANNED, and Corporations would be constitutionally banned. and billionaires would be consitutionally banned.

Did you know If you took away all the money from the billionaires in the United States and distributed it evenly, everyone else would become a millionaire? That's how warped the wealth distribution is in capitalistic nations, that one tenth of one percent of the population controls over 90% of the accumulated wealth. That's called "slavery" and it's supposed to be illegal in this nation.

[Wade12345]

The native Americans were even more radically socialistic than the Jews of Israel, and the only reason their civilizations ended is because Europeans mass-murdered them all. They had been continuously living in the land, all tribes obeying socialism, for about 30,000 years or so. They were so socialistic that they didn't even have a concept of private property nor feudalism. Everyone shared everything equally in Native American tribes.

So you're basically dead wrong. The most successful civilizations in the world history were socialistic.

I don't know where 'christians" get the idea that Capitalism is a good idea. Both Jesus and Moses were radically opposed to CApitalism and Feudalism. Jesus basically said it was "next to impossible" for a rich man to go to heaven, that it was harder for a rich man to go to heaven than it was for a camel to pass through the eye of a sewing needle.

So no "bible-believing" christian is supposed to be a capitalist. The Bible is entirely a socialistic document, and again Capitalism and corporations were illegal in ancient israel for over 1100 years.

[Wade12345]

While I'm on this topic, Jesus of Nazareth cannot be a Jewish Messiah, because he is from the wrong tribe and because the Kingdom in Israel was ILLEGAL. The Priest/Prophet Samuel told the people that and then he too unlawfully "anointed" Saul to be the King, and then David later stole the throne when Saul somehow went crazy and lost his mind.

Jesus of Nazareth is the wrong tribe to be a Priest under the Old Testament Law, so he cannot be the "high priest" of Israel nor any other confession, and Jesus cannot be "The King of Kings' because again Israel was not a Kingdom, it was a Republic, and besides, Daniel the Prophet previously stated that NEBUCHADNEZZAR was "The King of Kings".

Only a specific family of levites were allowed to be priests, and that was the direct male descendants of Aaron, not Judah.

So Jesus of Nazareth does not legally qualify to be a king, does not qualify to be a prophet, does not qualify to be a Rabbi, and sure as hell does not qualify to be a Priest of Israel.

Just clarifying those facts for the misinformed/uninformed.

[Wade12345]

Lending for interest (i. e. "banking") was supposed to be illegal in Israel too. There's actually still a written commandment in the Torah making it illegal to lend money or anything else for "usury" (interest) in the Bible. You can read it for yourself if you want to do so.

There's very little evidence that the jews ever obeyed that particular commandment from their own written laws though.

[Wade12345]

Did you know Congress, in the 1990's, calculated that the Average American Employee produces over 7.5 million dollars (1990's currency) in net gain of wealth, and yet over 50% of Americans cannot afford to feed, clothe, and house themselves and their families?

Why is it this way?

Multi-millionaires and billionaires and now a few people who are secretly trillionaires, are hoarding all the wealth for themselves and never give back a significant fraction to their employees who created all their wealth in the first place.

Did you hear about Fox sports giving Tom Brady a 300 million dollar ten year contract to commentate on football? What in God's name is Tom Brady going to say about football that could ever be "worth" 300 million dollars? Nothing. That's what. He isn't worth a million per year as a player, and he sure as hell won't be worth 30 million per year as a commentator.

[Dargil]

@Wade12345 They just take longer to fail, but they still fail.

[NamerOfStars]

Yes. The question is whether it's learnable.

[jshm2]

Depends what truths you're looking for.

[moonpie89]

Hmm? I don't get what you're asking?

[Wade12345]

You wouldn't.

Your generation hasn't been taught that the concept of "Ultimate Truth' exists at all, so at least you confess your ignorance.

The complete answer to his question is that some things are in fact "True but unprovable to a mortal", and God intentionally designed the Universe to be that way.

[MrTaboo]

Yes, read the bible