Who is MOST WICKED character in the BIBLE?

[AviatorTom]

The Bible (Old and New Testaments) contains thousands of years of stories, involving hundreds of characters, some good and some not so good.

Who, in your opinion, is the most wicked character in the Bible, and why do you say that?

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Thank you all for your posts. With 51 opinions posted, here is a summary of who responders to this question have said is the MOST WICKED character in the Bible:

God - 24
Devil - 16 (some used other names: Adversary, Lucifer, Satan, Serpent)
Judas - 3
These were mentioned once (1) - Abraham, Amnon, Eve, Cain, Herod, Jesus, Nephilim
One person didn't name a character (1)

[NamerOfStars]

D probably won't be the first to say it, but: God. He lies to Adam and Eve, and punishes the snake for telling them the truth. He kills all of humanity, save for a handful, because they weren't up to His ethical standards, despite the fact that most of lived thousands of miles away from the only humans He ever talked to. He was willing to kill dozens of innocunt people in Sodom until Abraham talked Him down. The first nine plagues are understandable, if not praiseworthy; that's just God being VERY protective of the Hebrews and spiting he Egyptian gods. But slaughtering innocent children is reprehensible no matter how you slice it. Especially after hardening the Pharaoh's hu
eart against the people He's supposedly tring to help. The new testament isn't much better, with Mister "Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery" taking a man's wife to produce His son.

I don't know why so many people think you should be LESS responsible for your actions when you're omnipotent; that, to my mind, calls for MORE.

[OfDeath]

It would have to be the character called God. There are plagues, murders, rapes, cruel trickery, substititional atonement, slavery and at one point he has everyone in the world including all the animals except two of each and one human family drowned. Doesn't get much worse than that.

Then in the New Testament he has his own son in the form of a physical embodiment of himself birthed from a random virgin without her concent and tortured and executed. And he justifies it by saying it is to atone for the "sins" of those who aren't even born yet! How sick is that?

[AviatorTom]

You're the third person (3 for 3) that said that

[Agape93]

God. After all, he himself stated he was the one that created evil. Christians tend to forget that part.

Drowned an entire planet because his own creations sucked, despite making them that way and knowing they would suck.

Destroyed several cities with asteroids because they weren't hospitable to two people, and he even turned one into a pillar of salt merely for her own curiosity.

Struck down someone who slipped whilst carrying the ark of the covenant.

Made an entire nation suffer famine, disease and death just because the pharaoh was a shit head. (Also Christians, keep in mind the pharaoh was going to let them go, but GOD hardened his heart and thus prevented it. Interesting)

I could go on and on. But the devil didn't do these, God did.

[sage2021]

After reading over 30 opinions here not one chose Jesus as the most wicked. Not one! Yet God was Jesus in the flesh. The Trinity: God the Father, Jesus, and the holy spirit. Not even the best theologians can explain the Trinity, so how come people on G@G think they know the answer?

[Kaneki05]

That's only one Abrahamic faith that follows that. If one reads the bible the trinity is not mentioned. Jews, Witnesses etc don't believe jesus was god there is a certain part of the bible for the witnesses that made him an archangel called michael. Therefore the most wicked character in the bible wouldn't also be jesus because the bible don't actually prove he was god. Also jesus's actions were highly different to the wrathful god.
And if that was god it was finally him been not wicked for once. So that would be bad example as the most wicked lol.

[Anonymous]

Abram/Abraham.

He pimped out his own wife because he was a coward. His own wife.

When they joke about “prostitution being the oldest profession” in the world it is, biblically. The VERY FIRST mention of silver and gold in the Bible happens after Abram whores out his wife.

“And it came to pass, when he was come near to enter into Egypt, that he said unto Sarai his wife, Behold now, I know that thou art a fair woman to look upon: Therefore it shall come to pass, when the Egyptians shall see thee, that they shall say, This is his wife: and they will kill me, but they will save thee alive. Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee.”

”And it came to pass, that, when Abram was come into Egypt, the Egyptians beheld the woman that she was very fair. The princes also of Pharaoh saw her, and commended her before Pharaoh: and the woman was taken into Pharaoh's house.”

“And he entreated Abram well for her sake: and he had sheep, and oxen, and he asses, and menservants, and maidservants, and she asses, and camels.”

Wow! Abram’s doing pretty well for himself for a 75 year old who never left home and who had next to nothing and was living in a tent. All he had to do was pimp out his wife!

Eventually the Pharaoh finds out he is screwing Abram’s wife because God is plaguing and cursing the land in anger and disapproval. So he exiles them all and kicks them out of Egypt, but first Abram makes sure Pharaoh settles up with him. $$$

”And the LORD plagued Pharaoh and his house with great plagues because of Sarai Abram's wife.”

“And Abram went up out of Egypt, he, and his wife, and all that he had, and Lot with him, into the south. And Abram was very rich in cattle, in silver, and in gold. And he went on his journeys from the south even to Bethel, unto the place where his tent had been at the beginning...”

[Kaneki05]

God.
He created all of it and is the almighty power who can stop any of it or change it yet don't. Also the almighty power who apparently knows everything and knows what will happen in the future therefore knew everything would happen this way. In fact it's all going to his plan. His plan is wicked. He knew the devil would become the devil. He knew the snake was in garden. He knew that his creation of lucifer would lead to such events.
And that's all without mentioning the killings he did personally.

[Kaneki05]

The only way God could be potentially not wicked if he turned out to be just as human as us all. Were he don't know everything, can make mistakes and can let emotions get the best of him leading to disasters he didn't mean to do. But that's not what the bible say's he is.

[Anonymous]

God is the most wicked.

He creates humans in His own image, which means that all of our inherent flaws come from Him. Then He punishes us, violently, and excessively, as a result of the flaws that He, Himself, gave us, by using himself as a template.

The Bible is essentially a collection of stories in which God says, "Do as I say, not as I do," and then proceeds to demonstrate why being created in the image of a violent, jealous hypocrite is maybe not the best thing.

And people worship this?

[AviatorTom]

Interesting take.

[Exterminatore]

Being created in God’s image means we are eternal like him. Our souls are eternal as God is eternal. Our flaws do not come from him.

How have you been punished violently by God? What about excessively? Any punishment you received, was it a result of flaws not your choices? Are you not responsible for you? If not who is?

Next time I get a speeding ticket: “I’m Innocent your honor, see God made me with flaws, and I’m not responsible for speeding. Yeah, I put my foot on the excelerator, yeah I knew I was going faster than the speed limit, yeah I was driving no one else, yeah I knew better, but your honor it’s those damn flaws. I ain’t responsible.”

I’d say read scripture more and factually state your case next time as opposed to what you did which is misapplying the meaning of something, then developing a poor thesis based on incorrect info.

Also if God had flaws and created us with his flaws then Christians, especially the ones that died for their faith are an especially stupid lot. For they worship a God who claims to be without error, yet duplicated his flaws into the billions who have ever lived. I mean, you can’t be anymore stupid than to believe a God who claims to be perfect, yet created all of mankind with his flaws thereby replicating his imperfections to infinity, all while claiming perfection.

[Opinion Owner]

@Exterminatore Lmao, get over yourself. I don't even believe in God. I was answering the question as it pertains to a collection of stories, not reality. I haven't personally be punished by God, because I don't believe he exists. As far as I'm concerned, this question was no different than answering who the most wicked character is in "The Lord of the Rings".

And if you'd read the scripture, I wouldn't have to point out all of the examples to support my case. If you don't know what they are, already, then you didn't pay attention to what you read.

God - "Thou shalt not kill"
*Proceeds to murder people constantly, including children, and the innocent*

[Exterminatore]

You spend an awful lot of time railing against a religion you don’t believe in. I don’t believe in the Easter bunny but I’m sure not passionate about telling everyone how the Ester bunny doesn’t exist.

So you don’t believe in God. Great. Why do you care then? I don’t spend my time coming up with theological concepts for religions I don’t even believe in. I sure don’t cite being created in God’s image as God having flaws which he duplicated in all mind kind as if I know what I’m taking about when in fact I haven’t got a clue.

Speak about scripture all you like but at least know what you’re taking about. I sure wouldn’t speak authoritatively about something I have incorrect or no knowledge of as if I were wise in the subject.

[LovingLoverReturned]

God did not create evil. And SATAN was not born Satan
Where are these people getting their information?

God gave us free will.

Maybe the people who say God is evil for destroying wicked would prefer a new world to live with those wicked people.

[Bane0781]

God created the wicked world. And you do realize that it goes way deeper than just free will? He didn't just give us the option to choose.. he created us to have a sinful nature. And before you go and say that it's Adam and eves fault, actually it's God's fault because the tree should have never been in the garden to begin with. So he programmed us to desire the exact opposite of what he commanded, let Satan into the garden to manipulate a child like Adam and eve, and placed the tree in the garden for absolutely no reason at all. He rigged the game. And as far as Satan not being born Satan wouldn't God have known who he was destined to become? He is all knowing correct? God has characteristics of narcissistic personality disorder. Oh and he murdered innocent people children and animals. He accepted a sacrifice of 2 human children. He's not loving and merciful at all

[LovingLoverReturned]

@Bane0781 Hope you had fun writing your opinion.

[Exterminatore]

@loving

Great answer.

[Exterminatore]

@bane

You have some major holes in your logic. Do you have children? If not, and you choose to have them, never punish them. Everything will be your fault. “I played video games instead of doing my homework, but it’s your fault for buying me a PlayStation mom.” “Oh mom, I know you said I had to be home by midnight, but it’s your fault for letting me borrow the car.” Yes, you will be at fault for all your children’s short comings just as God is responsible in your mind for creating that tree.

You’d make a horrible attorney.

He did not create anyone with the desire to do the opposite of what he said. In fact that’s the default position of humanity. To sin. That’s the byproduct of living in a fallen world and being born spiritually dead. People were not created with the desire to sin. That’s not part of the formula. What is part of the formula is spiritual death which has been passed down to every person from Adam and Eve. When you’re born spiritually dead all you can do is sin. Just as sin and death came through one man, so did salvation. Anyway, I’ll just be over here getting saved and avoiding Hell through Jesus by God’s grace while you stay busy blaming God for your choices. Or you could just repent and accept Jesus as Lord and savior and skip Hell. Up to you. Yeah all that obedience stuff is hard, but so is being a slave to sin. That’s much harder.

God has the characteristics of Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)? Since you know so much about NPD you’d know it’s characterized by selfishness and self obsession. God is soooooooo selfish after this whole sin problem kicked off, he put on flesh and came down himself to be humiliated and crucified, only after being whipped. Pretty selfish huh? To go through all that just to save us.

He accepted a sacrifice of 2 human children. Interesting. I’d love to know where that is in scripture. By children I assume you mean not grown children ruling Jesus out.

[Bane0781]

Yeah it is entirely different than having kids because we don't design out kids. God designed us 100%. And even if God didn't create our sinful nature.. (which.. we sure didn't, but whatever) why was the tree in the garden? And why if he loved us so much did he even allow Satan into the garden? Because if I did have kids and I could stop some evil manipulative dangerous being from hurting them. then.. I would. And what about the babies God murdered because Pharoah wouldn't let the Israelites go? You know after God hardened his heart and all. And what about God using demonic spirits to do his dirty work? And what about the whole thing with Job? He's not a great guy. He's a narcissistic sadistic being whether he reigns supreme or not. And if God didn't create evil where did it come from? It just manifested?

[Bane0781]

And it's fucking hilarious how people that are pro God always want to throw personal insults into the discussion. Luckily I'm not an attorney and when did I ever blame God for any of my choices? I take responsibility for any dumb shit I've done. .. and basically what you're saying is that because of a choice someone made thousands of years ago God made all of humanity spiritually dead.. I still don't see where he is the good guy. Anyways I got nothing against God whatsoever. I just call it like I see it and the Bible is full of stories where God is killing and destroying rather that forgiving and loving.

[Exterminatore]

@bane

My point is your kids In such a circumstance are the guilty party and can’t blame you and more that Adam or Eve can blame God for the Tree of the Knowledge of good and evil. You can’t blame sin nature on your behavior either. You are accountable for you.

You are missing the point. The tree is and Satan are irreverent. God had a plan. He knew what everyone was going to do. Who are you to question God and did you advise him how to create matter, or the oceans or life itself? God does as he pleases. We have no right to question him. All things were made by him for him. God owned the garden and owned the tree and could do with it as he pleased. Ultimately Satan only convinced Eve. Her response should have been “God said don’t” and ended the conversation there. All that conversation is fluff. It boils down to God said don’t. But she didn’t immediately reject Satan’s ideas. She considered them.

Those Children would have grown up in an idolatrous system. They would not know God. I believe those who are not old enough to know right from wrong and those who are not capable for knowing what sin is, who God is or that they need salvation due to age or disability go straight to heaven. I could be wrong but I very strongly doubt it. All of those children would have grown up in Egypt and been eternally damned. God however by killing then took them to heaven and still cast a fierce judgment on Egypt. That’s a win/win for God. Also it says the first born, doesn’t necessarily mean babies. Some were probably teens.

God frequently uses the Devil and demons to do his “dirty work.”Martian Luther even remarked that the “devil is God’s devil.” They must ask permission from God. God allows them to do things based on his will.

I already mentioned Job here or on the other question where I addressed you.

Here is where the problem is. You want to be God. You want God to check with you before he does something. You want God to revolve what goes on around you and humans.

[Exterminatore]

@bane

That’s not how things work. Things don’t revolve around us. Man is self centered. God has his plan. We are merely servants. We are to obey. It is not our place to rail against God and question him no more than your children’s place to question you. You must submit your desires and control of your life to him.

You clearly know scripture. Your questions are not baseless. They are good questions and would be legit questions if your intent were not to lay accusations at the feet of God.

I said you’d make an awful attorney because you want to blame everything on someone else and wouldn’t do well with that type of argument in a court.

Sin made humanity dead. Not God. God is the solution who makes man alive again.

You are also right about God. I am dismayed by many Christian’s who have this “God is all about love” thinking. He is absolutely for those who are his. Not for those who aren’t his. Scripture says he does not even hear the prayer of sinners. It does say he will punish rebellion with eternal punishment. He is an exceedingly fierce God. God is unbelievably merciful, to those whom he’s called and those whom responded. To everyone else his is as unmerciful as one could possibly be. Yet even then he is merciful. He allows the sinner to finish his days on the earth rather than taking him out right away. He allows the sinner to eat. To have water. To have a home. To breathe. Even in his fierceness there is mercy.

You know scripture. You know judgment is coming. Please do not fail to humble yourself and repent. Life is but a vapor. It’s fleeting. Here and gone. After this life comes judgment. Please do not fail to get on right terms with the judge and I suggest doing it now while you can.

[BCRanger10]

I'd say Judas. The reason why is not necessarily because he betrayed Jesus Christ, but because he despaired of His Mercy. Rather than repent and humble himself, he made himself greater than God. He believed that his sin was greater than God's Mercy and Love and thought he was beyond saving.

It saddens me to think of how many souls have gone astray because of him, how many people have not turned to God.

[AviatorTom]

Was Judas really wicked? He did what was required... to turn Jesus over to the authorities so that Jesus could be crucified. He basically followed God's plan.

[NamerOfStars]

It's even clearer if you read his gospel. It's not considered canon, I know, but remember than God didn't exactly give an approved list.

[BCRanger10]

It might seem so, but simply because God allows something evil to happen doesn't excuse those who commit it.

[Anonymous]

There are a lot of extremely sinful characters. Mass murderers, cannibals, children sacrificers. Usually the worst crimes are considered one’s blatantly against God. King Ahab was a child of Isreal that became King. He married a pagan woman, made idols, sacrificed children to those gods, and converted a lot of people to the religion. He also caused the downfall of his country. There was also King Herod is pretty bad with baby massacre trying to kill Jesus. The only true obvious answer would be Satan, the father of sin.

[Exterminatore]

Herod tried and I mentioned Herod, but forgot all about Ciaphias. Herod tried to kill Jesus, but Ciaphias succeeded in stirring the crowd against Jesus to manipulate Pilate. He also paid Judas to betray Jesus.

[Smoke-n-Growls]

Man.

God didn't write that book, man did. And it's literally filled with all the ways in which mankind fucking sucks.

But also, God did a bunch of fucked up shit. So, God, too. And well, God made us and we're doomed to sin, so really God is the villain.

[Anonymous]

That bipolar "God" character... Killed hundreds of thousands of people, manipulated others into killing thousands more, and only once, after he tried to drown the world (including countless small animals) because he had a temper tantrum, did he show any remorse to the sole survivors.

[Lliam]

That would be my answer, too.

[Moose304]

This is a fantastic question to start a really nice debate. I wish I had thought of it. After the death of Alexander the Great and the implosion of the Greek empire, the Romans ruled most of what was thought of as the world. The bible is full of spiritual wickedness but I think the Romans were the most wicked of all the human bible characters.

[Snsl153]

Most of the characters that appear in the Bible are pretty awful, but the worst would have to be God himself. God, being omnipotent, is ultimately responsible for EVERYTHING that occurs in our reality, both the good and the bad.

[Sixgunsound]

In the interest of fairness, Satan never lied, never cheated, never broke a promise, never committed genocide, and doesn’t make excuses for allowing childhood cancer. All he ever did wrong was resist authority.

[Exterminatore]

He also possessed Judas in order to have him betray Jesus.

[Sixgunsound]

@Exterminatore which would violate free will and excuse him from culpability. There are so many versions out there I hadn’t heard that before. Which version says that?

[Exterminatore]

They all do.

“Then Satan entered into Judas called Iscariot, who was of the number of the twelve.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭22:3‬ ‭ESV‬‬

“Then after he had taken the morsel, Satan entered into him. Jesus said to him, “What you are going to do, do quickly.””
‭‭John‬ ‭13:27‬ ‭ESV‬‬

You will find those 2 in every Bible.

His free will wasn’t violated, nor is he excused. While Judas was with Jesus for the 3 years, he was the treasurer for the group but there was one little problem. He kept stealing money from the purse.

“But Judas Iscariot, one of his disciples (he who was about to betray him), said, “Why was this ointment not sold for three hundred denarii and given to the poor?” He said this, not because he cared about the poor, but because he was a thief, and having charge of the moneybag he used to help himself to what was put into it.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:4-6‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Judas loved money. Prior to him betraying Jesus he already worked out a deal with the Chief priest Ciaphias to betray Jesus for 30 pieces of silver.

“He went away and conferred with the chief priests and officers how he might betray him to them. And they were glad, and agreed to give him money. So he consented and sought an opportunity to betray him to them in the absence of a crowd.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭22:4-6‬ ‭ESV‬‬

After Jesus was arrested Judas clearly has a guilty conscience:

“Then when Judas, his betrayer, saw that Jesus was condemned, he changed his mind and brought back the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and the elders, saying, “I have sinned by betraying innocent blood.” They said, “What is that to us? See to it yourself.” And throwing down the pieces of silver into the temple, he departed, and he went and hanged himself.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:3-5‬ ‭ESV‬‬

So, despite Satan, Judas did what he was going to do regardless of Satan.

By his own words he admits guilt saying “I have sinned by betraying innocent blood.” He didn’t say: “I was possessed.” He didn’t say: “the devil made me do it.” He was guilty.

[Paris13]

Eve who Betrayed God, Judas who Betrayed God's Son and More: Those who evilly Crucified Jesus on that Cross. xx

[Secret6620]

I would say the serpent is technically the most wicked character in the Bible.

Very interesting question!

[Losalt]

Is he? ;-)
Ever looked at the story from his point of view? ;-)

[Secret6620]

@Losalt giggles 😁! No it hasn't. 🙈

[Losalt]

There's several fantasy books from that perspective

[Secret6620]

@Losalt I would enjoy reading those.

[Losalt]

@Secret6620
Ask me about that in private later. ;-)

[Secret6620]

@Losalt yes Sir 🙊

[Losalt]

@Secret6620
Good girl. ;-)

[Secret6620]

@Losalt blushes 🙊🙈!!

[genericname85]

god himself. says that killing is wrong. kills pretty much all life on earth just cause they didn't turn out how he like them...

https://www.youtube.com/embed/VPyNf0-PAjo

[Exterminatore]

He said murder is wrong not killing.

[genericname85]

@Exterminatore take a close look at the 10 commandments. "Thou shalt not kill". Not "this shalt not murder"

[Exterminatore]

Yes. Look up the word kill there in Hebrew. It means murder. Kill would include deliberate manslaughter, premeditated murder…any type of homicide done in malice. Not included is war, self defense, acting as an executioner for capital punishment etc.

Otherwise Christians are the biggest fools around. They worship a God who gave them instructions to not kill, yet in the same book of instructions tells them to stone adulterers to death. He instructs not to kill, then sends a Death Angle into Egypt to kill the firstborn in every Egyptian home. He says not to kill, then sends the newly freed Israelites to take the promised land by force, instructing them in at least one instance to commit genocide against one particular group of people.

So to me, Christians are fools if kill doesn’t mean homicide with intended malice because God did, making him a hypocrite, and likewise instructs killing in certain cases or allows for it.

[genericname85]

@Exterminatore why the big argument for agreeing with me? I don't get it.

[Allie2468]

I’m going to say Cain, partly because he murdered his brother and murder is never okay. Also because he hasn’t been mentioned yet.

[Mrsposh]

1- God ( someone already went into detail)
And
2- ADAM because he sat there n let Eve take all the Blame for eating a damn Apple. 😭

[Exterminatore]

You are correct about #2. Adam committed the second sin by placing accountability for his actions on Eve, instead of just admitting he disobeyed also and equally by eating the forbidden fruit. The way he tells the story to God you’d think Eve hog tied him and shoved it in his mouth.

[Mrsposh]

"Hog tied him" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 . But yes I find it to be very sinister of him.

[Guy13]

Satan in Bensis 2 and 3. In fact Satan races to and fro upon the Earth. That’s why this earth is so wicked in its self-love and total depravity.

[Guy13]

Genesis 2/3

[WhitneySnow]

If you go by the Biblical standard of morality, Satan/the serpent is the most wicked male and Queen Jezebel the most wicked female

[Sincerly_KittyCat]

The adversary. After all he knows he is about to fall so why not drag as many with him.

[Lionman95]

I´d go for Amnon he raped his half-sister because he couldn´t control himself.

[kuladiamond]

Isint cain considered one of the more evil ones usually?

[jshm2]

The devil,

He started it all by being a fucking piece of two faced trash.

[bamesjond0069]

I mean it has to be Satan. I don't know how God, of which who is the definition of morally good, could be evil. We got some dummies around here i guess.

[FunkyMonkee]

Probably that insane bastard that keeps changing his mind over and over again. God.

[FunkyMonkee]

It looks pretty unanimous to me! Nearly everyone here said, god!

[Exterminatore]

Satan. If that doesn’t count, Herod or perhaps Jezebel would be in competition for the top spot.

[John_Doesnt]

God kills more people and animals and babies than any other character.

[AsheHex]

God. He created all that He despises and caused both literal and figurative Hell for everyone.

[Adronicus]

Nephilim (Angel / human cross breeds), god flooded the earth in an attempt to be rid of them.

[Anonymous]

King Solomon for demon worship. King David for killing a man so he could bed his wife.

[Anonymous]

God killed more people than anyone in the bible including nearly every living thing on earth in the flood.

[AviatorTom]

Join the group so far. 4/5 say God is the most wicked

[Opinion Owner]

Wisdom of the crowd.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Your use of the word “character” sounds kind of insulting but it’s obviously the devil

[Anonymous]

satan rapist and killer

[NamerOfStars]

Um, Satan didn't rape or kill anybody. He's in the Bible three times: tempting Joshua, pushing God to test Job's faith, and tempting Jesus.

[Opinion Owner]

@NamerOfStars

this is why I make fun of atheist cause they are retarded
so stupid
30 years of age and still so brain dead

Genesis 6:4

There were GIANTS in the earth in those days; and also after that
WHEN THE ANGELS HAD SEX WITH THE WOMEN OF THE EARTH AND GOT THEM PREGNANT



Book Of Jasher 4:18

And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by FORCE from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the MIXTURE

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of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sd5c4o9UM

[NamerOfStars]

And you call ME stupid? None of those passages even MENTION Satan, you dolt! You just arbitrarily blame every bad thing on the guy, thet use that as justification for calling him evil.

[Opinion Owner]

@NamerOfStars

ok so you are retarded

get out of here idiot and liar
can't wait till we end your lives

such a waste

[NamerOfStars]

Again, no- YOU may be retarded, but I'm being sensible. Don't blame Satan for things that aren't his fault. THINK, man. God doesn't want slaves.

[Opinion Owner]

@NamerOfStars

you are a waste of time and space get out
stupid atheist man

so sick of you idiots
GLORY TO MY CHRIST ABOVE THE DOME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmBYV4kxS4w

[NathanDavis]

God itself? didn't he come up with all of it?

[AviatorTom]

Most people wouldn't accept that God is the most wicked but I see how you might say that.

[NathanDavis]

wasn't all the wicked stuff that happened in the bible... possible by his grace and with his blessing, almighty power... etcétera?

[AviatorTom]

Some would say that you can't have good without having evil. So if God created a situation where evil exists, isn't that the right thing to do?

[NathanDavis]

I heard that once... from an abusive husband "I punch and kick you because I love you... and so you learn to appreciate all the good I do for you"

[Hellraiser1984]

God. It's all his fault.

[nawtee_me]

Satan is the deceiver... The evil one...

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Besides Satan, Judas. Just a horrible scumbag.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

As to why? Judas heard the word of God directly from God's Son and knew Jesus was God's son yet didn't give a flip and decided to betray the Holy one of God to His enemies to be killed.

[Exterminatore]

Jesus called him the “Son of Perdition” for a reason. I nearly forgot Judas as a possible winner of the most evil prize. Certainly he will receive one of, if not the greatest judgment against any human of all time by God.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Exterminatore: He is the most evil human being of all time. Period.

Other evil human beings killed other other evil and sinful human beings, but Judas betrayed the Son of God Jesus who is the perfect representation of the Father, righteousness and holiness.

Jesus daily preaching for 3 years fell on Judas deaf ears.

[Exterminatore]

That’s a real good point. Judas and his accomplice Ciaphias both were guilty of setting up the only truly innocent man in every respect for death. Both conspired to kill God. Yet, Judas is worse as he lived and walked with Jesus for 3 years.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Exterminatore: Correction. God can't be killed nor was Jesus killed per se but rather He laid down his life.

John 10:17-18
“Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again.

No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself.

I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.

This command I have received from My Father.”

[Exterminatore]

Well Jesus was God in the flesh and he is equal to God so…more or less they were seeking to kill God. Jesus also was the embodiment of all God is in character, something they wanted to snuff out.

Yes, Christ laid down his life. As he told Peter he could have called down legions of angels to put a stop to things.

[MagicCarpet1]

Non-Virgin Women.

[Espresso-Grande]

Satan

[Smashingdoozy]

God...

[SamA_nold]

God 🤗

[TheMajesticKing777]

Judas

[SolitarySolace]

Jezebel

[Dargil]

Satan/Lucifer

[humanearth]

God of course

[XXblack88]

The devil

[CloudMassacre]

God.

[TacosRAwesome]

God.

[Guy13]

How do you get there given if not for God, you would not be here. In fact, He loves you so much that He has given you Free Will to stand in opposition to Him without immediate death, to choose both Good (right) and Not Good (wrong) as written in 10 Commandments. And given you both innate know of right and wrong as well as possess a conscious for guidance.
—It is man, actually, that’s the most wicked entity in Bible as man, both Jew and Gentile, freely chose to violate God’s Word. It is man, in his depraved fallenness, that is responsible for doing evil, causing suffering, as well as doing good. Like Physics every action has an equal and opposite reaction, therefore, a consequence. Violate the Good (10 Commandments) then there is Judgment and eventually Wrath unless one ask for forgiveness and repents (turns away from doing the Not Good),

[FunkyMonkee]

@Guy13 You're delusional!

[Guy13]

You’re so bright… 🙄

[Anonymous]

You guys even believe in it!

[Jamie05rhs]

Herodias.

[DWornock]

The devil.

[Jay3344]

Da debil

[EssenceOfLight]

God...

[Juxtapose]

Yahweh himself.

[Juxtapose]

The reason is that with infinite power comes infinite responsibility ;)

[Pterodon]

Devil

[Waldoe]

Satan

[Bane0781]

God is.

[Bane0781]

1. He created us with a natural desire to sin but demanded that we deny ourselves that natural desire or else go to hell.
2. He created the angels angels in spite of the fact that they come down and corrupt all of humanity and then when the corruption occurs , he proceeds to drown all of humanity except for one family while only 4 angels were chained beneath the euphrates river.
3. He is supposed to be able to any and everything and yet the best plan he was able to come up to save all humanity was to force a very young virgin to have a baby so the it could be basically sacrificed in one of the most torturous ways possible.
4. He would send lying spirits to deceive the minds of men in order to accomplish his end goals and yet those men that were deceived were still punished for going against Him
5. At the end of the day the whole reason for all this pain suffering and all these people that are going to end up in hell being tormented forever ; the whole purpose of all this was to that we could all worship God all the time and remind him how great he is and how wonderful and how superior... if that's not a narcissist I don't know what it is.
6. He allowed Job (his faithful servant) to be destroyed and tortured by the devil all bc he had to prove to the devil that job would be faithful through hard times as well as blessed times. It wasn't enough that he knew that job was faithful... the devil had to know it too.
7. He put the fucking tree in the garden for literally no reason at all.. I
8. He created all evil.
9. He murdered multiple innocent children

[JadeSkywlker04]

Well said!! It does seem that way.
Makes you wonder why there is a faith oriented in that direction?
I suppose its all in how its preached..

Would you mind answering some of my questions too?

[GlassTop]

It’s called choice. You can’t blame God for all bad choices, and all your reasons are grossly dumbed down and exaggerated. He created humanity with the ability to choose. Otherwise he could have just made robots. It’s easy to summarize the whole fall of man in a few sentences, but im pretty sure it was a lot more complicated than that.

[humanearth]

I very much agree with you @Bene0781. I was going to post something along this line, but your reply is just to perfect.

[Exterminatore]

@Bane

1. God did not create us with the desire to sin. Both Adam and Eve were created BEFORE sin existed and Eve had to be talked into sinning by Satan. Adam only had to be talked into it by Eve. THAT is what resulted into sin entering the human race. Sin is the result of man not God.

2. That’s one account of the story of the sons of God inhabiting with man, there’s just one problem. Angles are male in nature, but not in body. Just like God. They don’t have genitals. They also have no sperm or egg. God flooded the earth because he saw every intention of man was evil continually, not to correct a DNA problem.

3. Yes. That was his plan. Why not just save yourself by never sinning…oops. Too late. God is a God of justice. He must punish sin.

4. You’re referring to Revelation here. You’re misquoting though. You mean to refer to this:

“Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false,”
‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:11‬ ‭ESV‬

The verse prior to this says God does this because they refused to believe the truth. God is merely confirming their decision and he did Pharaoh’s.

5. The purpose of what has occurred and will occur is for God to display is wisdom and mercy. By one man sin and death came, through 1 man salvation comes. You act like you have no means to escape Hell.

6. He also restored to Job double everything. Also, you must have forgotten, Job like everyone deserves Hell…the fact he had anything for Satan to destroy already demonstrates God was more merciful to Job than Job deserved.

7. It’s his garden he can put whatever he wants in it.

8. He did not create evil. Satan did.

9. He also had his innocent son sacrificed. Let’s start there. In regards to the Death Angle, he probably killed tens of thousands of children, all of whom would have grown up in an idolatrous system who would never have known God, but because he took them as children they probably went straight to heaven, and yet he still punished Egypt despite that

[Hassaniscool]

Just wait till you die

[UpdateGloomyNights_]

Jews

[Exterminatore]

Yes, but Islam is a religion of peace right? Not just some big Jew hating club. Glad we got that sorted out…. and I was thinking Islam is a religion evil. Silly me huh?

[Hassaniscool]

@Exterminatore u racist shit do your research before stating something

[Exterminatore]

First of all Islam is a religion and yeah, I don’t like Islam or it’s followers. So what of it? Do you think you will shame me into accepting your doctrines by calling me a racist? Guess what? I don’t like Satanism or it’s followers either.

Islam is a vile religion and the worship of demons. Jin as you’d call them.

Tell me all about the Jizya Hassan. Let me let you in on a secret. I know all about it and have studied both Islam and the Quran. I’ve been all over the Middle East.

Oh I’m the racist? Not the one who thinks Jews are evil right?

Tell me all about conversion by the sword and it’s historical impact.

Tell me all about how the Quran condones the killing of non Muslims by Muslims for simply being non Muslims. Will you say I have misinterpreted that passage? If so, why so many dead Hindus at the hands of Muslims historically?

Shall I go on?

Insult or curse me again and I’ll block you.

I took exception to her calling Jews evil. You must be ok with that. Who’s the real racist Hassan?

Would you like me to do more research Hassan? So I can make you look twice as stupid?

[UpdateGloomyNights_]

What are you talking about

[Exterminatore]

@update

The question was who is most evil in the Bible.

You answered Jews.

I know you’re Muslim. I took acceptation to your statement. It is well know how Muslims from various nations, not just Palestinians, seek the destruction of Israel and hate Jews. All while claiming Islam is a religion of peace.

Hassan here, saw what I wrote and didn’t like it. He thought he was going to try to call me a racist, as if Islam is a race not a religion, so I told him off and pointed out a few things that are rather vile about Islam, for example the Jizya which is an extortion tax on non Muslims and is condoned in the Quran.

I do not like Islam. I have studied the Quran thoroughly. I find Islam to be a dangerous religion and Allah to be a false god. I most especially hate political Islam. I tend not to like Muslims much either depending on their individual views. I most especially don’t like any Muslim who hates Jews or advocates for the destruction of Israel.

We now live in a day where people think calling others a racist will make them be silent. As if bullying them will make them tolerant of your views. Hassan tried playing that game with me so I had to remind him Islam is a religion not a race. I told him I don’t like Islam or Satanism nor the followers of either religion. As if there’s something wrong with that. As if I must accept every person and every idea they have and never criticize a religion or political institution or head of state or country because I might be labeled a racist. Although I despise racism, and I despise racists better to be a racist then some barbaric ISIS goon who just lopped the head off a child for refusing to convert to Islam.

Notus in Judea Daus. In Israel magnus nomen eius.

[UpdateGloomyNights_]

@Exterminatore I don't like prophet killers. Also, if Islam is a false religion, why are there many scientific things in the Qur'an? Also, the Quran came to an illiterate person. In other words, when the prophet Muhammad was illiterate and did not know what science was at that time, how did the Quran contain many things scientifically?

[Exterminatore]

What about the Romans then? The area of modern Israel was known as Judea then. Pontious Pilate was the prefect from the Latin word prefectus meaning governor and the only real authority there despite Herod. Christ could not have been crucified but by their consent. They whipped him, beat him and nailed him to the cross. Do you also hate the Romans as prophet killers? You didn’t mention them. The Jews set him up. It was Pilate who had him executed. It was the Roman legionaries who pounded the nails through him.

There are many scientific things in many religious books. The Quran is not unique in this respect. The Bible mentions gravity, info about blood, that the earth is round, the water cycle, the laws of thermodynamics. 2 rabbis even came up with much of the same concepts as astrophysicists regarding the creation of the earth and other dimensions simply going off details in the book of Genesis.

The Bible also made historically accurate prophesies. Jesus predicted the destruction of Herod’s temple. He said not one stone would be left on another. About 40 years after he said that and had already been killed, the Jews revolted. They eventually turned the temple into a fortress. The Romans set it alight. They literally tore the bricks apart 1 by 1 because there was so much gold in there it melted and cooled between the bricks, so they ripped them down to get the gold.

The fact Mohammed was illiterate doesn’t mean anything. I can be illiterate and create a story about how I met god in a cave and have someone write it down for me.

[Exterminatore]

I think the bottom line is calling the Jews the most evil is way off the mark. You could blame Ciaphias, the chief priest who paid Judas 30 pieces of silver to betray Jesus. He also stirred the crowds against Jesus. You could blame the pharassies. You can’t blame the Jews as a group and say their the most evil. Know why? Because Jesus was a Jew. He was a member of the tribe of Judah. That would include Jesus as being evil too. Outside of Ciaphias the Pharassies and Sadducees no Jews played a part in his arrest except for Judas. All of his disciples were Jewish. John the Baptist was Jewish. Paul the apostle was a Jew.

However it is well known the attitude many Muslims hold towards Jews and Zion. I think this is why you made this statement. You don’t like Jews. I don’t care for Muslims as I would anyone who is a member of a religion or political organization or any other entity who thinks I should die for not believing in their god. A religion that teaches if anyone leaves it they are to be tracked down and killed. I will readily admit many evils have been committed in the name of Christ. Things that the Bible would not and does not condone. That’s a case of people having wrong ideas. That’s not true with Islam though as the Quran condones things like the Jizya, killing those who leave the religion, killing infidels who will not convert. This is my cause for dislike of Islam. And then on 9/11/01, Muslims flew planes into buildings and the pentagon and killed 3000 Americans in one day. When word of this reached the areas of Israel that the Palestinians control, I saw the women there cheering in the streets. People want to say the terrorists are radicalized and the rest of Muslims are peaceful. People don’t know that the Quran condones Muslims lying to non Muslims. When you carefully study the precepts of the Quran it becomes clear the terrorists and jihadists are following the teachings of it as it has been historically practiced and meant to be taught.

[UpdateGloomyNights_]

@Exterminatore They will be the ones who support the antichrist. Gog and Magog will be Turks, and those who support the antichrist will be Jews.

[Exterminatore]

I agree, because they will be deceived, but many will repent and God says he will purge those of the Jews who do not repent.

The coming Muslim Mahdi meets the descriptions of the Bible’s Antichrist.

All the world will support the Antichrist regardless of race or country and those who do not will be killed.

[Exterminatore]

For the record, God is not pleased with apostate Israel. He has vented his wrath on them and as they requested:

“So when Pilate saw that he was gaining nothing, but rather that a riot was beginning, he took water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying, “I am innocent of this man’s blood; see to it yourselves.” And all the people answered, “His blood be on us and on our children!””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:24-25‬ ‭ESV‬‬

So they requested Jesus death by the Romans. God granted this request, as Pilate supplied the legionaries to whip and execute Jesus but wanted no part in it.

As for the Jews, what the Romans did to them in Jerusalem and at Masada, what the Nazis did, and the pograms, God granted the request for the charge for Christ’s death to be laid on their account and those of their children’s. They have suffered immensely and the Antichrist will take many many more of them.

God has not allowed them to go unpunished. Many will be punished both in this life and the next.

Yet for all this, they are no more evil than anyone. They are not more evil than the Palistinians for example who continually usurp God. That God decreed Israel belongs to the Jews, and still they rail against God.

God is a god of justice. He must ALWAYS punish sin. Either the punishment was paid for by Jesus, and few will have their punishment paid that way, the majority of people on this earth will pay in both this life and for all eternity for their sins.

““Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:13-14‬ ‭ESV‬‬

[Mollymolly377]

Lucifer

[jimmy2]

The Devil

[Anonymous]

God.