Was Joseph Smith on drugs?

[Alwayreckles93]

A lot of things about the LDS church don't make since. When my ex husband wanted to date me he told me I had to convert to Mormonism If I wanted to be with him. I now recently I made research and it's scary everything about the Mormon chruch Joseph Smith practice poligamy and more scary stuff that is way to trigger warning to post on here. https://youtu.be/n3BqLZ8UoZk

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Things the Mormon church say about God it is no where written in the Bible. And the temple practice secret handshake and how member can't tell family and friends about the things that go on the temple why?

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https://youtu.be/EpTrNXQXChI

[Minxxie]

Possibly, but more likely he was just a pervert/pedophile trying to make up whatever he could so that nobody would question him for wanting to do the depraved shit he did.

He wanted multiple wives so he had to pretend god wanted him to have multiple wives.
He wanted to marry a 14-year-old kid so he had to pretend god wanted him to marry a 14-year-old kid.
It's the same with David Berg and the "Children of God / The Family International" cult. He started slowly with adults basically swinging and "sharing" partners, then it was forcing the women to "flirty fish" or prostitute themselves to win converts to the cult. Until eventually he was receiving striptease videos of little children and abusing his own grandkids.

And The Children of God was very against drugs just as the Mormons won't even consume caffeine a lot of the time. I think it was greed and perversion that drove these cult leaders and then after a certain point of presenting yourself as the direct link to the will of God people don't question you! Even if you say and do some truly despicable shit.

[TrueConfection]

I don't know, but I view them as a cult. My friend's daughter married a Mormon and my friend had to remain in the parking lot during her daughter's wedding ceremony because she wasn't permitted to enter their church. 😳

[Alwayreckles93]

That's really sad , Your friend had every right to attend her daughters wedding ceremony. Yes it is a cult. They can't go shopping on Sundays they can't drink coffee or green tea. I mean it's a lot. Young men get pressure into going on mission.

[TrueConfection]

Thank you for the MHO ❤

[MrShaun]

Many people of the LDS faith still shop on Sunday, but there are those who do not. They believe in it being the lord's day and putting it aside for family and friends, along with other church services. Service work, visiting with others, is not uncommon.

They have something called The Word of Wisdom which suggests the use of caffeine and tobacco be avoided. There are still a great deal of LDS faithful that drink caffeinated sodas. All in all though, those concepts are not too bad. Consider the Jewish faith or that of the Catholics.

It is true that when a couple is married within their temple (this is different than their church building), only those witha temple recommend are permitted to attend. I don't necessarily like it either but can understand.

[ManOnFire]

All I will say about them is this: Joseph Smith claimed he received 'the Word' from an angel named Moroni. No such angel is in the Bible and even if it was never mentioned I still don't think it exists. Mormons believe that black people are cursed and is the reason for our skin being dark. That is messed up philosophy, and if you go back to the story of Zipporah, Moses' wife, God literally cursed Aaron's wife with leprosy for her racism towards Zipporah. The Mormon church is a cult full of sexual abuse and polygamy, and even dark political secrets. I don't think God is okay with that. At all.

[Gent207]

You should check out that new documentary on Netflix called Keep Sweet Pray
It's about the FLDS a mondern branch of Mormonism that still practices polygamy. Their Prophet was convicted of S. A, and human trafficking little girls.
Is difference in religion the reason for the divorce?

[Alwayreckles93]

That creep is in incarcerated and yet he still controls everything the flds. Joseph Smith also married a 14 year old. A lot crap is weird with Mormons. And they are fake.

[Gent207]

@alwayreckles93
True
But is that why you are divorced?
No judgment just curious

[Alwayreckles93]

That is one reason , my mother in-law invaded my privacy and ask why I wasn't wearing the magic lingerie Mormons call it undergarments. She went in my laundry and saw I was wearing regular normal lingerie. Two my ex husband got into pyramid scheme Amway.

[Gent207]

@alwayreckles93
I am so sorry that happened to you. Did you two have any kids?

[Alwayreckles93]

Yes we do. Thank you I am finally getting over that traumatic past.

[Gent207]

@alwayreckles93
You're welcome
I enjoy hearing people rising over traumatic events. May I ask were you raised in LDS?

[ManOnFire]

@Gent207 You mean Warren Jeffs?

[Gent207]

@ManOnFire yes the dude is at the top of my sh%t List

[ManOnFire]

@Gent207 I remember watching an old 20/20 special about him and the church like 15, 20 years ago. I was pretty disturbed by him even then. I think the dude is still active too.

[MrShaun]

I was raised in the LDS (Mormon) faith, but am not Mormon today. I hope I can shed a little light on the subject.

First, people of the Mormon faith are some of the nicest people you can meet. Just as in any faith, there are exceptions but they are not wacked out or cult like in any way.

There is an ongoing discussion as to whether the Mormon Church is Christian or a cult. This comes down to the belief that Mormons do believe they are the only true church. To obtain the highest level of salvation, they believe that one must accept the religion and fulfill certain rituals within their temples, called endowments. However, they do strongly teach of Jesus Christ and the fact that he atoned for our sins.

There are some unique beliefs within their faith, but they are not heavily taught. In fact, most Mormons may not even suggest they believe such things because they're simply not aware of the belief. Some beliefs are unique but are not all that "weird" when thought of in the context of what they are. Their church services are not weird in any way. In reality, they are much more modernized and normal compared to that of other Christian faiths. They have a generalized meeting that is somewhat like what other church's have. They call this sacrament meeting. And then they have meetings where they break off to discuss and learn from their scriptures. For the ladies, this is called relief society and the men its called priesthood meeting. They very much believe an accept the Bible as the word of God, although they only accept the King James version. They also have scripture in the form of The Book of Mormon, Peril of Great Price and Doctrine and Covenants. The Book of Mormon is what they consider another testament of Jesus Christ.

Joseph Smith has an interesting history. Some of which is well-known by church members, some is not. Polygamy was one such practice that he started and continued up until the time that Utah achieved statehood. It is not practiced today. When one considers are the weird practices of today's society -- that being homosexuality or suggesting one can be non-binary -- polygamy doesn't seem too far out there.

If you have questions, please ask. The worst thing one can do is continue in a belief system or spread misinformation they know nothing about.

[Alwayreckles93]

I see your point Sir. I did made my own research at the library from history books and I did find some very disturbing things In regards of Joseph Smith one example he practice poligamy and he was a pedophile he married a 14 year old child. It is a cult. Other Christian dominations will not consider mormonis a Christian religion. I am not saying Mormons are bad people I met very nice Mormons but I just don't like the history about man thinking they will be gods on their own planet and that God had sex with the Virgin Mary a lot things don't make sense. I grew up Catholic went to Catholic school. Now I am Baptist reborn. You are not active any more. Did you attended the temple? Did you serve a mission?

[MrShaun]

Appreciate your reply, comments and questions.

There are those individuals who oppose the LDS faith that actively perpetuate the concept of the organization as a cult. The characterization is, at best, a matter of semantics.

Joseph Smith had several wives and a couple were younger. But remember, this was during the first half of the 1800s. Life expectancy was shorter and people married earlier. Joseph Smith, himself, was younger when he started the religion.

Yes. The concept of becoming a god or goddess is a fundamental belief of the church. Maybe it was because I was raised in it, but that never seemed to be all that weird. The concept is that God, or heavenly father, is something like your mortal father. He wants his children to evolve and become everything that he is. As part of that process, we needed to come too Earth to receive a mortal body. It's what is considered the eternal plan of salvation. Part of their primary part of scripture is that, "As we now are, he once was. As he is now, we may become."

Whenever you're not raised within a certain religion, looking in from the outside, things can seem mighty weird. I can't begin to tell you how weird things within other religions can appear -- especially if that in the Catholic faith.

The concept of God having relations with Mary is not commonly taught within today's faith.

I graduated from an LDS seminary. I never went on an LDS mission nor went through an LDS temple -- although I'm very aware of the similarity between it and the Masonic rituals.

[Daniela1982]

Mormonism is just a cult. For instance they believe that they will be gods one day and rule their own planet. Read "The Maze of Mormonism" by Walter Martin, available on Amazon. He compares Mormonism to what the Bible says.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/JHj_z8oknT4

[slatyb]

All religions are based on nonsense. Mormonism is no sillier than any of the others. It only seems that way because the claimed miracles of Mormonism are more recent and seem less probable. I see no difference between Joseph Smith’s golden tablets and the angel Moroni and Moses’ stone tablets in Exodus and the burning bush.

[Alwayreckles93]

Joseph Smith did some shitty things like marriage with a 14 year old girl. That's disgusting and so wrong. Joseph Smith was a pedophile the whole polygamy practice. Not normal at all.

[slatyb]

I didn’t say I’m a fan of Joseph Smith. I’m not. He was a bullshit artist who was able to spin a tale that resonated with some people. He traded his talent for wealth and sex.

[RealMarek]

It’s a wild story. What’s interesting is how easy it was to start a religious sect in upstate New York during the early 1800s. The Mormons were one such movement, but the one that grew the most.

[Alwayreckles93]

I read the Bible constantly and a lot things don't add up with what Joseph Smith has said. The so called angel Moroni I went on to the library turns out it's the name of a demon.

[Anonymous]

moronism is satanism

anyone can look into the back history

but the words of CHRIST are true

https://www.bitchute.com/video/TY0y92VcPaJ9/

[MrShaun]

They're nowhere near satanic. Depending on the way one wants to define Christianity, they're very much part of the denominations that teach Jesus was and is the messiah and he atoned for all of our sins.

The fact that their name is The Church of Jesus Christ might provide a clue as to how they worship.

[AndrésC64]

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[RedThread]

I don't think he was on drugs but he was a known con man of the time. He had a documented past of being a swindler. Now, that doesn't mean he was lying about his claims but it does draw his character into question.

[Alwayreckles93]

Mental illness perhaps?

[RedThread]

It's impossible to know.

[TenderFantasy]

I was almost a Mormon because of my ex as well but I had anger issues with religion in general and so that helped to not convert me into the relgion!

[OlderAndWiser]

I've alays thought that the story of Joseh Smith sounded like a paranoid schizophrenic who found his audience.

[John_Doesnt]

No, he was just a typical con artist. He was convicted multiple times of being a con artist before successfully starting his nut job religion.

[Blueeyes81]

"A lot of things about the LDS church don't make since." They make about as much sense as any other religion.

[loveslongnails]

Mormonism is more than a little bit out there, hmm?

[dolemite89]

his family was into mysticism and witchcraft before he made up finding the gold plates 😂

[Alwayreckles93]

Yeah a lot of things don't add up with what the Bible says. Joseph Smith was also a creep and that Warren Jeff's that guy is creep as hell.

[jahaims]

He was just a lying boy that was trying to fuck

[Alwayreckles93]

Exactly 💯

[Anonymous]

I'd say he was on something.

[Alwayreckles93]

Joseph Smith probably had a sever mental illness from what I see.

[Opinion Owner]

Agreed

[legalboxers]

no he was a plain asshat

[RuthlessAggression]

prob.

[Jamie05rhs]

Probably lol.