Why is Satan a bad guy?

Question

In the garden of eden God was fine with man & woman so long as we stayed away from the forbidden fruit. Along comes Satan who suggests we try it out. With that we get freedom of thought some argue consciousness and we get kicked out.

So was humanity supposed to be mindless automatons in Eden? Why is Satan the bad guy for that? In a way you could say he helped free us.

Its a trend you see with Christianity where if you question them you’re punished. For example Heretics. Killed for what? The word heresy means “to choose.” You were killed for choosing differently.

So all these years maybe Christians are worshiping the wrong guy 😈 😂

NamerOfStars · Accepted Answer

Okay, stop. Here:   Read that. It was a snake that pointed out to Eve that God had lied. Just a snake (my theory is that is was the same snake that Gilgamesh dealt with; he'd've known a lot about fruits and immortality). Not Satan; Satan had nothing whatsoever to do with that story. Satan shows up only three times in the Bible: when he's tempting Joshua, to test his mettle; when he's telling God to push Job, to see if his devotion is real; and when he's pushing Jesus, to see if He'll crack under the strain of fatigue, hunger, and lust for power. Satan isn't a bad guy at all; he's the figure that shows you the genuine nature of your feelings and desires; the friend who holds up the mirror when you can't bear to look into it. A dark figure, perhaps, but a decidedly wholesome one. The trouble comes in when he gets confused with Ahriman, a much more negative figure from the Zarathustran faith. Ahriman is a corrupter; Satan is only a tester. This is why Satan is much more reviled in Islam, which has a far stronger Zarathustran influence. It came to Christianity only through Manicheanism.  Unfortunately, that's where you kinda fall off the rails. "Heresy" (which comes from the French "eresie" and means "immorality", not "choice" does not consist simply of "disagreeing with Church authorities" but "pushing doctrines that run against those of the Church *as the doctrines of the faith*". You weren't killed for choosing differently; you were killed because you lied about what the Church was saying. Granted, there were times and places where NOT being Christian would get you punished, but the goal there is conversion; they might kick you out of the country, but they wouldn't kill you (unless they were truly assholic; no one with any knowledge of human history or psychology is going to pretend that religion makes you immune to that)- that'd be counterproductive. And it's really not fair to make no distinction between civic and religious institutions when you're complaining about their actions; even today, it's not like whoever is the president of Italy this week can overrule the Pope.

love_conquers_lust · Accepted Answer

They had consciousness and freedom of thought before they ate the fruit, or else they wouldn’t have been able to be tempted by the serpent or choose to eat it. God created the universe on a dichotomous base. There can’t be good without evil. There can’t be love without hate. They chose to eat the fruit under false pretense. The serpent tempted Eve, she fell first, then she tempted Adam, then he fell. The fruit was symbolic of temptation. Temptation, sometimes has undesired consequences. So, we’re forever doomed to wrestle with both good and evil. The only thing that kept them blissful in the garden was their ignorance. God didn’t kick them out, their own acquisition of knowledge from the fruit killed their ignorance, bliss, and paradise. God most likely designed it this way more or less to give us the free will to discover and choose to do the right thing.

Heresy specifically refers belief/opinions against orthodox views, usually religious. Choice is a prerequisite, it does not mean “choose” itself. Autonomy or volition are more apt terms to what you’re referring to.

Daniela1982 · Accepted Answer

God created the Earth to be perfect with no hate, wars, or killing. Satan changed all that, and made all kinds of creepy things, weeds, flies, and every other nuisance to come out of the woodwork. Plus we were meant to live forever by eating from the tree of life. But Adam and Eve got kicked out of the Garden of Eden where the tree was located. So do you think we would be better off with Satan in charge seeing as how the world is filled with hate, wars, killings, and pestilence and famine? I can see when they were passing out brains you thought they said canes and you said you didn't need one. But fear not. Maybe you will wind up keeping house with Satan after you pass on and realize he ain't a nice guy after all.

laurieluvsit · Accepted Answer

You have got it all wrong.

The forbidden fruit tree gave us the knowledge of evil.

Before that there was no evil thoughts or actions.

Because of that we could be nude and have sex without judgment.

Once Satan introduced us to evil that was no longer possible because now rape could happen and murder etc so we had to cover up and hide from each other.

Had we obeyed and not listened to Satan we would be living in paradise today without fear and judgment of any kind... wouldn't that be better? ... just wondering

Anonymous · Answer

Christianity is all about Control
They are Sadistic That Like to tell people what they should think and should think should and shouldn’t
Do they deny human Nature
And call it evil sinful
Love the one that Raped you forgive the one that raped you mentality
I ounce saw a dude get hit by a car He got up and Hugged the dude that hit him with his car.
It’s a death religion Christianity denies The dark side of humanity they don’t accept that we have a dark side they call it the devil if we believe something else
They know Burning in hell for all of eternity is evil.
Satan only Killed 10 people in the entirety of the Bible
The good Moral God in the Bible killed soo many human beings and then claims to love humanity.
Satan said the fruit is good that it should be eaten they know satan was right and satan told them you would know the knowledge of good and evil and eyes would be open Adam and Eve disregarded the evil dicks Words because they wanted knowledge they didn’t understand anything accept for What they wanted they wanted knowledge and they knew they didn’t wanna fuck for all of eternity in a garden 🪴
Without clothes having to Stink and Be eaten up by ticks spiders and other Bugs 🐜 so they got the knowledge that satan said it would give them and he was right.

I ounce read that One of gods angels was watching the garden but left so Satan could Get them to eat the fruit.
Satan didn’t like god and rebelled because he got tired of being Restricted on what he can and can’t do He was the smartest and best looking angel of them all and didn’t wanna be told what to do he wanted freedom from his dads Evil ideas of controlling everyone and everything satan wanted to Make humanity free from being controlled

JDavid25 · Answer

Satan was the bad guy because he tricked Eve into thinking there that she and Adam can be like God and have his knowledge.. He phrased it in a way where they would think they could be omniscient and maybe even become powerful.. Knowing good and evil.. They knew of evil, but they didn't "know evil", meaning they didn't experience it for themselves.. God had given Adam & Eve everything they needed and wanted.. Everything was easy and perfect.. He only had one rule for them.. Don't go and eat of the of the tree.. And the whole point was to test if they loved him and everything he had given them enough to resist that temptation.. Free Will basically.. So Adam & Eve weren't automated drones.. God wouldn't give Automated drones control over the Earth and the ability to name all the animals.. And no people question and have questioned Christianity for centuries.. Even Jesus answered questions that were meant to trick him with grace, humility, and precision..

lightbulb27 · Answer

cool gag name by the way.

The issue is separation from God, which is love. When love is our motivation, it is "good".

Satan (the adversary) separated us from God and immersed us in the knowledge of good and evil, which is confusing because good looks like evil to others and visa versa. We are confused in essence... selfish. This creates pain, sorry. The separation.. by shame... fear.. trust. is the root issue. This is true of general engagement with other humans you encounter.

Alcoholic_Wannabe · Answer

The way it's most logical to interpret him? No, he's not evil. A fucking prick but not evil.

He was made with a power level close to, but not quite equaling, God. He thought he was more powerful than God but got put in his place.

Now he oversees the souls of those humans who have turned away from God similarly to how he did.

The way it was explained to me during my attempted indoctrination is that Lucifer doesn't torture people. The "suffering" of being in hell is to be cut off from god's love. The fiery torment stuff is all jargon.

TwoToTooTutu2 · Answer

Don't ask me an Esoteric question. You'll get an Esoteric response. From the very beginnings of Satan he was always known as the adversary of man. Satan is just a title and is held by Archangel Samael. Aka The Venom of God. His job as the accuser is quite literally to be God's personal Devil's advocate. The serpent from the story of creation was not Samael or any Satan. He was simply a serpent similar to Leviathan. Satan itself is just a title that means adversary. That is why Satan is considered Evil since he is the Adversary of Man after they were cast out if Heaven, enslaved by men, or abandoned by God and his Disciples.

Anonymous · Answer

The only way it makes sense is if the god in the story was an imposter. Wisdom (the tree of knowledge) being God's creation, he couldn't get rid of it or block access to it, so he fooled Adam and Eve into staying away from it by telling them it was poison. So then the snake would represent a messenger from God telling them the truth. And when they attained wisdom, the imposter kicked them out and cut them off from God (the Tree of Life) and Christ (whosoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood will have eternal life).

Just look at how the old testament God represents himself: fire that does not consume (hellfire), a serpent, disease, plagues, etc. He's petty, vengeful, jealous, and self-serving. Sounds more like old S'tan than the Father that Christ exemplifies. To me, at least.

Backwoodsbaby · Answer

Satan was a beautiful angel the bible says so but he wanted to be God my question to you is why would he wanna be God? I mean he was a beautiful angel but he chosen chaos himself so if someone rape someone would you see them as a bad guy Satan wanted the God power God created man and all things I would like to say he was jealous it's like being in art class and you made something beautiful someone try to take it from you wouldn't you wanna get the punished for it right

hahahmm · Answer

Adam & Eve had free will before the fruit incident which is why Adam had a job that required free will and why Eve had the freedom to do something God preferred them not to. You don't come home and find your vacuum cleaner trying to make dinner because it doesn't have free will.

You say, "Its a trend you see with Christianity" -- Hey, if you think Christianity is cruel, you're free to move to Saudi Arabia and see how talking against the major religion works out for you.

Agape93 · Answer

He isn't. He was God's prosecutor, as God made him and followed God's divine plan. All he did was tempt Adam and eve, THEY are the ones who chose to eat a fruit god had forbidden them to have despite for some reason he even put it there to begin with. Bad planning on God's part. But anyways, everything even besides that he has done with God's permission. Even his rebellion was preordained by God because he made it so it would play out like that.

MaxRobespierre · Answer

The world is filled with pain and suffering. Human trafficing, child sex trafficking rings, deceptive people, nuclear bombs, pedophiles, barely anybody you can trust incudling. Look at the families in Roman emperors like cauglia. Look at the "god god korean" netflix flim with the telegram pedophile who rapes young kids and tells them to commit suicide similar to Satan. And just gets away with it for so long

Anonymous · Answer

Because he supposedly caused literally everything that brings humanity down. Also, as if people are any more free, just this time they're controlled by their own greed. The story implies that knowledge is a bad thing though, but I think lack thereof causes more problems in life. Still, Satan worship is so stupid, most people who like that stuff are just trying to be edgy and different, even if they pretend like they actually care about the "values" that they added in to pretend like their religion isn't just contrarianism. If good values were all they cared about, they'd probably just be agnostic or atheistic.

jshm2 · Answer

You must have been dropped on your head as a kid.

Satan is bad for his disobedience to God, and for his betrayal of the people he was supposed to stay away from. Not to mention his false pride.

The fact he STILL could make it all better by seeking forgiveness from God, shows how much of a douche and a Kevin, Satan is. He is the epitome of the bad guy - someone who knows they are wrong, but are going to continue to do that wrong anyway.

Anonymous · Answer

Exactly!!! If you don’t accept God you’re going to this place called hell where Satan supposedly will do unthinkable, evil things to us. But why would he if we also disobeyed God as did Satan? I mean wouldn’t you want others on your side if they disobeyed the same person you did? Why would you want to torture them, burn them in hell, etc? Strength in numbers right?

purplepoppy · Answer

Normally if want people to stay away from fruit you put a fence around the tree. Or god could have just made the tree taller. I reckon it was entrapment.

dustybiker · Answer

Wasn’t he just the brother who was stuck with the dirty job? Someone had to to do it. Bad luck.

ElementoP · Answer

Satan is the manifestation of self and worshipping him means doing all that is good for you with a disregard for others. That's what Satanists believe anyway

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

He's bad for one, he's in rebellion against the Almighty and suggested to rebellion to Eve and Adam which led us this current broken world we live in.

Besides, the point he's a murderous and lying p. o. s.

Sarahplus2 · Answer

He has a hatred towards God and anything or anybody related. He will deceive and lie to get his way. Even use people to get his way.

Sour-rose · Answer

Need someone to blame... strange how humans are, eh

AK-47CountryGurl · Answer

He's not. Even Satan has his miracles too. I forget who had said that, but I think Thomas Payne though I am not 100% sure

FunkyMonkee · Answer

Because that's what you've been brainwashed into believing. There's no such thing!

vald9inches · Answer

God is Satan and Satan is God they are just two different sides of the same coin if they exist at all

Blueeyes81 · Answer

Because he ate all the dip at the party. Selfish prick.

Andro36 · Answer

all these tales are so funny and entertaining. I think thats why religion became so popular through all generations

monkeynutts · Answer

He is the scapegoat, the one you blame when you screw shit up. Everybody needs a bad guy to blame.

Anonymous · Answer

yes him and the angels raped the women of the earth and genetically corrupted man kind

Bee-Hatch · Answer

Is this your attempt at playing devil's advocate?

Anonymous · Answer

He gets people to do evil things

Fuentes · Answer

Cause he hates God's creation

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