Which god is real?

[OddBeMe]

So many… with so many contradictory stories.

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To us…is there a difference between “non-existence” and a “being hiding its existence”?

[BlueScorpio]

Yahweh is the one and only true God. The reason there are so many false idolsand religions is because a. People came up with their own idols cause they did not one to obey God. Even Israel had this problem which God yalked about in the Bible, multiple times they would go back to old traditions even when they saw with their own two eyes what God and Moses did to get them to freedom. They worshipped a golden a golden Cafe, they sought out other ways to get the things they wanted instead asking God first. So humanity has always had this problem and simply because humans are in a rebellion against Yahweh.

2. Why are their multiple religions? This mostly has to do with 1. But if you read Genesis where the serpent aka lucifer in the form of snake deceived eve, God told Him he was going to send Jesus to defeat him one day: Genesis 3:15 is that “you will strike his heel.” That is, the serpent will bite the heel of “the woman’s seed.” The heel-bite is set in contrast to the head-crush, as the Amplified Bible brings out: “And you shall [only] bruise His heel.

He's telling lucifer about the birth of christ. That a vigin woman will bore him. Now does that sound familiar? We've seen multiple figures of false idols that represent the Virgin and her son. Why is that? You have to remember that lucifer is the father of lies and he decives people. I wouldn't put it past him if he's also somewhat responsible for multiple religions and gods cause he does not want anyone finding out about the truth. If you overwhelm and confuse people, they will have no idea which way to turn. This why a lot people throw their hands up in the air out frustration and decide to not bother with any faith.

[BlueScorpio]

Also looking at some of these Greek gods they are questionable. Zues is a god but is killed by Kratos? A lot these gods are very lesser and can be killed. You're never gonna be able to kill God. You can't, you would be struck down first before you even thought of it cause that's just how powerful Yahewh is. If lucifer can't overthrow God, then no man woman child can kill God. It's simple impossible.

[OddBeMe]

Just try to read some books not validating your religion. Just to look at the opposition.

[landingout2]

look for my answer thats why there are other religions

[BlueScorpio]

Why would I read something that opposes my faith? I already know about multiple religions and decided to stick with Jesus cause He's the only that laid His life down to save humanity. I don't need to search for other answers, I already know Jesus is the answer.

[landingout2]

GOD Christ divided the nations according to the fallen angels

each nation run by a fallen angel

[OddBeMe]

@BlueScorpio Because its logical to try to disapprove your belief. “Unfalsifiable” is an idiot’s belief

[Daniela1982]

Another Click Bait question from an atheist. How original.

[OddBeMe]

Not my fault you can't defend your beliefs.

[Daniela1982]

I don't need to. The word to those perishing is foolishness. Why cast my pearls before the dead? But I don't make threads to slam atheists either like you are.

[OddBeMe]

Atheists can be assholes, no doubt.

[Ill_made_Knight]

The one that you choose to believe in. I think it is just a device for reassurance and comfort when a person is troubled. Something people use to assuage their fear that when we pass this might be all there was.
Personally I think there is value in the morality tales that religion provides to some degree, but I do not feel the need to "worship" or select a specific god as the one true god.

[Ill_made_Knight]

Thanks for the MHO

[Anonymous]

JESUS CHRIST

he divided the nations according to the fallen angels atheist,

learn your history

lol atheist never learn,

each nation controlled by a fallen angel

but ISRAEL belongs to YAHWEH

fallen angel anubis

morrop fallen angel

fallen angel apkallu

fallen angel allah

fallen angel panenku

[dustybiker]

Whoever the individual believes in. It’s self comfort.

[OddBeMe]

I didn't mean brain synapses! Dammit woman!

[dustybiker]

@OddBeMe *sips tea*

[EmmaMary]

Desperate Dan (Dandy Comic) or Dennis The Menace (Beano Comic). 🤣🤣🤣

[HaveNoName]

I don't understand how multiple gods could have created people of multiple religions and then one group of creation is better than the other and yet they all claim he is so loving that he wants everybody to be in heaven.

[Guy13]

Read the Bible and you will know that for yourself. How about that to be fair to your question. Integrity is good ⁉️

[OddBeMe]

I e read the bible. Skipping over “son of, son of son of… lol

[HSalenko]

If there were any gods, are you sure they'd want to be found?

[OddBeMe]

Theyre apparently wanting to be worshipped.

[HSalenko]

How do you know that? So far humanity seems to have invented that idea.

[OddBeMe]

I dont disagree. But i do disagree they wouldn't want to be found.

[HSalenko]

That's assuming you know what gods are thinking.

[OddBeMe]

My pet kraken keeps wanting treats.

[Stoner710]

Likely the Christian god. Most of the other god is other societies are ass holes like zuse

[OddBeMe]

Likely how? Is there more evidence for him than Thor?

[Wade12345]

Jesus was a false prophet. The Law and Prophets state repeatedly that GOD IS NOT A MAN.

Any man claiming to be God in the Flesh is a false prophet and is only seeking their own wealth and fame. Period.

[landingout2]

look for my answer
its explains it real simple

[Stoner710]

No because we would still have to give blood sacrifices the Nordic god or they would have destroyed the earth.

Wade12345 how do you know he was a false prophet where your proof, I don’t have proof he was real I don’t have proof he wasn’t real therefore we can’t objectively say with that we know that Jesus was or was not the son of god

[landingout2]

GOD divided the nations according to the fallen angels

its literally in the comments just scroll you idiots lol

[Wade12345]

Nobody gains anything from God becoming a man, if that even is possible. Since God is Almighty, he can simply SPEAK forgiveness into existence.

2) The Law and Prophets specifically says GOD IS NOT A MAN on FOUR separate occasions, therefore Jesus CANNOT be the Hebrew God reborn in the flesh, because the Hebrew God is not and does not become a man.

3) God is not a mechanical nor dynamical system. He is a meta-physical Being, The First Cause. He is not body and molecules nor cells.

[Stoner710]

@landingout2 is this really a debate between a agnostic Versus a Jew or Catholic and an atheist they should be fun.

@wade1234 i’m pretty sure the Christian God is real he can do whatever the fuck he wants. If the Christian God wants to be born into this world or at least support him into this world why couldn’t he do that? Supposedly he can do anything so why the hell can he be fully god and bully man at the same time? The Greeks believed that Hercules was Zeus’s child that was Spond from a mix of God and human. The same goes for Helen of Troy supposedly she was Zeus‘s daughter “the women who launched a thousand ships” are we to write that off as fiction as well?

Why do you believe in Ayn Rand‘s comments or Sam Harris or Richard Dawkins? These are very prominent atheist that believe that somehow humans can come to the irrelevant conclusion that humans follow some sort of natural law and it’s because of religion that we get our standpoint on why murder rape torture is evil. Why do these atheists believe that we could come To this sort of conclusion without falling in moral relativism? Basically morals are irrelevant if God does not exist therefore we might as well go down the Marquis de Sade path.

[Stoner710]

The Marquis de Sade brought it into It’s Logical extreme he’s actually the person we get the term sadism from. If there is no God then there is no reason why I shouldn’t rape the woman next-door I desire to have sex with her fuck her desire and not have sex with me (for the record I’m only talking to semantics I have no desire to rape the woman next-door) Zeus rape Hellen’s mother and produced a face that would launch 1000 ships. Zeus read Hercules mother for him to be the strongest man ever lived apparently. So if the guards are doing it or if the Christian God does not exist then what’s the point of me caring about somebody’s consent if I want to have sex with them it doesn’t matter why have we structured our laws based off of Christianity and traditional Christian religion if God does not exist or any guys do not exist according to the Marquis de Sade.

If there is even a one percent chance I got exist why not live your life based on that one percent we are talking about the difference between spending inter in heaven or hell. If god that’s not exist we end up as warm food and none of this shit matters no morality nothing. If God does exist and atheist are wrong imagine the punishment that occurs.

So I ask both of you where is the evidence of God exist where is the evidence that God does not exist and even if there is a 1% chance why not live your life as if God exist even though you’re wasting your life on this earth and all you become is warm food

[OddBeMe]

Again…what did DeSade write?

[Stoner710]

The Marquis de Sade basically suggested that there is no God there for human comfort doesn’t matter law doesn’t matter it’s all what you want to do if you want to have sex with Britney Spears and she’s unwilling to bad hold her down and fuck the shit out of her. Now the market decide of course lived and died during their French revolution he was on the first people to get beheaded but that basically was his philosophy

[OddBeMe]

True, He didn't like religion but his novellas were a thesis on sexual chaste and is actually quite tame.

[OddBeMe]

Look up Justine and Juliette, pretty good story.

[Wade12345]

Without God there would be no law.
The only man-made laws that make any sense end up being derived from the Ten Commandments, wh ich are all derivable from the Golden Rule and Silver Rule.

[Stoner710]

So I looked up the 1969 version seems to be exactly what I’m talking about. Doesn’t matter if a woman wants to not have sex with a group of men is it going to be forced into it anyway I won’t wrong https://youtu.be/CuekZ54aJjU

[OddBeMe]

Well yes, which was the case for lots of women. In the novella, one sister embraced sex and made millions, the other tried to keep her virtue and went from sadist to sadist.

Again, fiction. He’s famous for being locked up by Napolean. But there's worse on TV today.

[Stoner710]

Humans are flawed and institutions become corrupt doesn’t matter what institution it is this is why I am kind of anarchist.

Historical part is true but he was eventually decapitated for his crimes against humanity let’s just say this he’s a logical conclusion of what atheism is is a crime against humanity but I don’t see how you can come to any other basis even Napoleon was Catholic

[OddBeMe]

Decapitating an atheist or a sadistic writer is always immoral.

[Stoner710]

So I think you’re right because anyone has a ride to believe anything they want.

But if religion isn’t correct why shouldn’t I get what I want from anyone I want. or maybe some sort of God does exist that we haven’t discovered yet why is that out of the realm of possibility?

[Wade12345]

Because you can actually reason out the properties of God from first principles, and God is not a Man and God is not a Dog or Elephant either.

[Stoner710]

@Wade12345 that makes no sense if god is real don’t you think he could have made himself into a man? If god is real and made the heavens and the earth what to stop him from becoming a man?

Now of course is god isn’t real there is no such thing as morality eat drink and fuck today for tomorrow we’ll be dead. Nature doesn’t have a code of ethics if I want to have sex with Victoria Justice and she doesn’t want to have sex with me there is nothing in natural law that would subject I shouldn’t for her to have sex with me right? He’ll survival of the fittest would mandate that I force my self upon her. Rape is perfect just in natural law.

[Wade12345]

No, he could not become a man, because a man is a created thing. God is not a Creation. He is the First Cause. The Creator cannot be a Creation. That's preposterous. Do you realize how bad your arguments are?

The Old Testament says GOD CANNOT CHANGE, (Malichi et al). IF GOD CANNOT CHANGE THEN GOD CANNOT BECOME A MAN.

[Stoner710]

@Wade12345 your putting limits on what god can and can’t do if a being so power is all knowing and all powerful he has no restrictions on what he can and can’t do go could become a man if he wanted to he could be come a elephant or a dog. It’s not impossible for a god to do such a thing he’s not changing him mind he’s changing his appearance so that humans could learn form him on earth.

[Stoner710]

This says it better then I can. www.answering-islam.org/.../q_jesus_changing.htm

[landingout2]

@Stoner710
@OddBeMe
@Wade12345

CLICK OR COPY

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qBeiNzJY6Ujq/

[Stoner710]

@landingout2 good song

[Snsl153]

The one that I believe in.

[OddBeMe]

Fair enough

[LordOfThePines]

Who can truly know? We should just find a belief that makes sense to us and enjoy the ride life gives us the best we can.

[OddBeMe]

Is that a good plan? Find a belief that works for you? Thats antivaxxers.

[LordOfThePines]

This is only for use with religious beliefs. Science and medical facts are another thing entirely.

[OddBeMe]

Pretty sure it should be all around or its illogical.

[LordOfThePines]

Unfortunately the world is rarely cut and dry

[OddBeMe]

there's us knowing, never black and white. Then there's actual fact…which is black and white.

I think this how religion sneaks in. “Theres no way to know whats true.” Actually there is. We may not know all of it, but its more than what religion’s got.

[Juxtapose]

Christians never seem to get this argument through their thick skulls 🤷‍♂️

[Agagagagaga]

Oh but Muslims and Jews do? Eat shit.

[Juxtapose]

How many Muslims and Jews do you think I see everyday? Come on man you know what I meant.

[landingout2]

I already gave the answer its not hard

[genericname85]

they're all equally unreal

[Wade12345]

So to restate your claim, you believe life just randomly self-organized from water and dirt over time, even though Entropy and the Second Law of Thermodynamics forbids self-organization?

Sound about right?

[genericname85]

@Wade12345 so you restated my claim by saying something completely different to what i said. that my friend is what they call a strawman argument.

[genericname85]

@Wade12345 the laws of thermodynamics apply to closed systems, not to open systems we don't know whether the "universe" is an open or a closed one. and even if it was a closed one, the suns state of enthropy radiates energy away from itself and hits the earth. so what we have here on earth is a very brief state of enrgized state that increases order just temporarily as a side effect from the overall solarsystem falling victim to the laws of entropy that you were quoting. the sun is burning out fyi. so you proved me right with the facts you stated. good job.

[genericname85]

by the way. when i say "a brief moment of increased entropy as the sun blasts energy at us as it falls victim to entropy": that "brief moment" is a few billion years on the universal time scale.

[genericname85]

*increased energy

[Wade12345]

Dr. Michio Kaku is probably the most intelligent human being alive presently, and he proved Self-Organization does not happen without intelligent intervention. He proved that using a shake table and a bag of jelly beans.

Life is not an accident.

"The Multiverse described by String Theory is so perfect that the only way it could come into being is if it were Created by a Pre-Existing Intelligence." - Dr. Michio Kaku, 2018 Facebook

[genericname85]

@Wade12345 kaku is a christian appologist nut case. and you're way above head with the shit you're quoting just slapping a "god sticker" on all the shit we don't know won't make you any smarter either.

[genericname85]

if you wonder why you're blocked, that's cause you called kaku "the most intelligent person". that's just retarded. i'm sorry. but there's not even a basis for us to start on if you're that dumb.

[genericname85]

@Wade12345 kaku probably got his degree at the same uni Kent Hovind did.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

The God Almighty from the Bible.

[OddBeMe]

Don’t want to debate per se… Just how are you so sure?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Because I believe the Bible.

[OddBeMe]

Mistranslations?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Nope unless you read trash like the NIV and all those water down translations.

[OddBeMe]

No true scotsmen

[OddBeMe]

Unless you can read hebrew and greek, you're reading a translation.

[Jouth]

allahu ackbar💥

[OddBeMe]

Hey! Alluh back at you at you pal!

[Jouth]

no

I'm TOO FAST!!!

[d3n0939]

he didn't get the blast at the end

[admles]

None of the above.

[Fuentes]

The one who got me where I am today.

[duttyjamagyal]

Who the fuck knows

[Guardian45]

ALL and none!

[Anonymous]

yes.

[OddBeMe]

Your genius is boundless…. Lol