It's a little silly to run around with a bandana gizmo 24/7
And just as silly to have invisible friends in the clouds who demand you lie ass-up jabbering and jammering 8 times a day
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As an ex-muslim i can say that you can't say they are all bad or good. It depends on the person just like any other religious people. If you are gonna talk about the religion then it is different
Muslims is consisted of Arabs and not Arabs. I gotta say that Arab muslims are mostly closed minded but you can't think all of these people in a box like they are the same
@Hafia_xo Since it can be difficult to find a non biased Google search, I want to back up my statement so let me help... Quran [8.12] When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. https://quod.lib.umich.edu › koran 8.12 - The Quran
Exactly, I'm happy with the treatment I receive, no one is forcing me into the so-called liberty from difference of men and women as toxic side of feminism does in the west
Same sis! You’re wonderful! No one can break our religion. It has been through SO MUCH! Yet we’re standing strong. If any other religion faced this much hatred they would’ve been destroyed a long time ago. We’re still standing strong 💪🏽
Yeah, fighting girl! 😤 We should believe in Allah! It's humans who's making it bad not our beliefs and teachings!
Also, Ms. Asker? I'd like to ask for a favor, a user whose user name start with Google blocked me so can you please reply "Human nature is changeable with eras and history repeats itself so relying on humanity of each generation's leaders is not a very good choice" in my stead if you can?
No problem here, although I'm an atheist so, all religious people as poor sods, victims of indoctrination in need of deprogramming... But not a reason to be a bigot about it.
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They are allowed to practice their Muslim religion without people judging them I do support them 100% with no judging and for those who do judge shame on them.
So much misunderstands, sister. It isn't the religion, it's the people in wrong. By it religious or non-relegious, people who force others into things exists everywhere.
@Rania05 I mean if the religion is being interpreted in the wrong way, it doesn0t matter, that0s how it is practised, that is the true religion that people follow, that is their belief
At least I'm not forced into anything as Muslim, nor do anyone I know personally. Though I know some though gossip who're less sane for practicing Islam without the essential, I call them failed Muslims
My dad has to listen to my mom, my uncle has to listen to his wife, my mom's friends has their husbands in check because they feel they're unreliable but maybe that's the case in Morocco because women are trying to be strong as men are getting more casual.
Not even my mother has say in me wearing hijab or not, and she didn't wear it herself until she felt like covering herself at her 30s.
@Rania05 sure not all muslims practice religion the sam way. i dont hate muslims, anyone can be a good person, but i think islam is obviously causing a lot of issues in many countries and thus i would never support it
Feminism is taken the wrong way, the two concepts of abuse and cheating forms is taken the wrong, different sexualities are taken wrong, medical herbs are taken wrong, cultures are taken wrong, both genders takes each other wrong and etc... The world can't be black and white as long as humans do live on earth.
@Rania05 I wouldn't compare all these to islam as "wrong" understanding of feminism/etc. in my eyes isn't majority while while "wrong" understanding of islam is
Yes some people do force women to cover up and abuse them but that isn’t Islam. That’s culture. People mix their own personal culture with religion. If a religion says no to something and someone still practices abuse then they are simply not following that religion. They are extremist and should be jailed
I don't know what other girls are talking about but islam does have misogynistic rules and yes it is said in the quran that a man can beat his wife and that the woman should follow her husband and that she is obligated to have sex with him even if she doesn't want to and that the man have the double of the woman's heritage etc... We should stop lying to ourselves it is true that there are many muslims that are kind but they are most of the times people who aren't very religious they are just following their families. i was a muslim before and i know what i'm talking about. If the religion is misunderstood by muslims then why it exists in the first place why "god" created it while he knows that people are gonna misunderstood it. Also please tell me what is the real islam cause i personally don't know which one it is. the one that muslims follow? The one that sheikhs talk about? The quran only? The sunna? Daich? What is islam? Everyone claims that others don't understand the religion in the right way while the problem is in the quran itself because it isn't clear and it can be misinterpreted in many ways
@Nottooimportant first off I’d like to tell you how you’re wrong, the quran does not say hit/ abuse anyone, second it doesn’t say the women should follow the husband and it doesn’t say the man can rape the women. Ask anyone who has studied it. Yes men and women are different. Allah made the man the bread maker of the family whilst the women can either work or stay at home her choice, either way he has to take care of her and make sure she is perfectly fine. Islam is obviously what is written in the Quran and hadith so if you believe in random people telling you fake facts about islam then you need to educate yourself. I agree people do mix culture with religion and that’s why we have a bad rep but if they stopped then it would be perfect
I was a muslim and i'm arab my first language is arabic and i can read the real version of islam I don't know about the translated versions. And i'm 100% sure of what i am talking about i think you are the one who should check out your religion bc you doesn't seem to understand the basics of it
Also because i left islam i can't tell anyone about it only my small family knows. Because in islam the "murtad" aka ex-muslims should be killed. Is this what you call a peaceful religion?
@Kelly6 i'm non religious and for me all religions are the same. But don't deny things that are in your religion and lie about it just say the truth if you are really convinced
@Kelly6 lol i'm not angry i just replied to the things that they were saying that i think aren't true and unlike religious people i respect everyone and i'm not forcing anyone to follow. And Usually i don't discuss religions because it doesn't concern me anymore
@Kelly6 i don't. Who said that i'm talking about religions not religious people there is different. I can respect religious people and still criticize their beliefs
Okay this is all ridiculous, Quran never said to hit, rape or opress a woman. They is many times when it tells the importance of men respecting their wives
@rania05 @Hafia_xo These are the proofs translated and you can check them by yourselves if you don't believe me. hadith: Prophet mohammed said “whoever changes his religion, kill him” sahih- al bukhari . Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God's guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; God is All-high, All-great.
— Arthur John Arberry, The Koran Interpreted, Surah An Nisa Ayat 34 . (4:11) Allah thus commands you concerning your children: the share of the male is like that of two females Surah An-Nisa 4:11-14 I think everything is clear now
@rania05 @Hafia_xo Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) reported that the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "If a man invites his wife to his bed and she refuses, and so he spends the night angry with her, the angels will curse her until the morning." Sahih/Authentic. - [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]
@Nottooimportant the first quotes you’ve given aren’t verified. All non muslims always quote those and it’s proven to be false. It’s not in the quran nor Hadith therefore it’s not authentic piece of evidence. Secondly the women in bed part, that is true to an extent. She has to have a valid reason, so her saying “my head hurts” is a valid reason and she doesn’t need to do anything. That quote talks about if the women weaponises sex, so if she refuses out of pettiness to hurt him then that’s when it comes it. Again please learn everything before you make accusations :)
They are verified. You know what sahih al bukhari is right? You guys make me doubt that you are even muslims like how don't you know the basics of your own religion. Also i gave you prrofs but ofc you'll deny them and find execuses i'm not surprised.
Ayat from the quran are valid ( surat an nisa). hadiths from sahih al bukhari are valid and if you don't agree then I don't know how you consider yourself a muslim
Al bukhari is a liar, don't believe him. He lead many astray. I don't believe in the bullshit he said, and scholars in our religion gathered to prove him wrong.
@Nottooimportant you do realise that these quotes came from a man like you quoted his name and everything 😂 it didn’t come from the hadith or QURAN. You need to check ur sources sweetie
@Rania05 i wanna tell you that many muslims will consider you as non-muslim because of that. Sunna has a big part in islam and the most import and known book of verified hadiths is al bukhari so yeah. Also i gave you ayat from the quran. That is why i asked before what is the real islam? Some people believe in hadiths some don't some say bukhari is a liar like you some don't some follow the shiaa some follow the sunna some claim thet daish is the real islam some don't like wtf. What is your religion where do i find the true islam if everyone claims they are right and everyone else is wrong lol and god knows all of that and he's completely ojay with it. Honestly i find this super irrational and silly
@hafia_xoS he is the translator and there is many other translators lol. quran was written in arabic if you know? So it needs to be translated. you can look for the hadith by yourself lol am i the muslim or you lol but you hust wanna say any kind of nonsense
Some don't have chances to be seriously educated in schools by Islamic teachers that knows better after years studying, I know Al bukhari was a liar since elementary school. They consider me non-Muslims? I consider them stupid and pitiful for not realizing how unmatched Al Bukhari's haddiths with the essential in Islam, what he says is utterly ridiculous, I was sober enough to know the lacking of common sense on it as a kid. This shows that blind worship doesn't work, the first Aya Allah gave us is to read, Allah want us to be knowledgeable, to give him the benefit of doubt so we can believe in him even more.
they follow the same God as the jews. not a fan of that guy. I think the Muslims are right about woman though and pray that if one of Abraham's God's Prophets wins takes over the world that its the Muslims.
Please spend about an hour looking at the same question asked about 124,000 times here on GAG. Analyze the responses. Then try to educate people who have already replied IF you have any patience or will left.
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It's a little silly to run around with a bandana gizmo 24/7
And just as silly to have invisible friends in the clouds who demand you lie ass-up jabbering and jammering 8 times a day
As an ex-muslim i can say that you can't say they are all bad or good. It depends on the person just like any other religious people. If you are gonna talk about the religion then it is different
Would you like to talk?
@urpapi69 about what?
Anything. I love ex muslim stories.
Followers of a pedophilic warlord, a false prophet, a lie.
Muslims is consisted of Arabs and not Arabs. I gotta say that Arab muslims are mostly closed minded but you can't think all of these people in a box like they are the same
are consisted*
Their bible teachings literally calls for the death of all infidels and non-believers.
The planet would be better off without them.
Where’s the quote for that?
Google it, there are a few verses in the Quran that teach it. I've read it many times.
It's not a quote, it's a verse from their "Bible."
@Hafia_xo Since it can be difficult to find a non biased Google search, I want to back up my statement so let me help... Quran [8.12] When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
https://quod.lib.umich.edu › koran
8.12 - The Quran
That's when the non believers start fighting Muslims and disrupt peace pacts
You are ignorant
That was when there was a war happening lmao please educate yourself with authentic evidence not false
I think their religion is wretched, but as people, I take them case by case. Some bad, some good, mostly a neutral opinion
How come?
How come for what part?
Wretched part? Sorry lol
I think Islam has a lot of problems, including treatment of women and the virtues it pushes. I feel the same way about most religions
What treatment to women?
Exactly, I'm happy with the treatment I receive, no one is forcing me into the so-called liberty from difference of men and women as toxic side of feminism does in the west
Muslims? Nothing. As long as they're a nice person, I couldn't care less about their religious views.
Islam itself? I do not agree with it at all. Very misogynistic and barbaric.
It's my religion, so I'd say WONDERFUL 😊
Same sis! You’re wonderful! No one can break our religion. It has been through SO MUCH! Yet we’re standing strong. If any other religion faced this much hatred they would’ve been destroyed a long time ago. We’re still standing strong 💪🏽
Yeah, fighting girl! 😤
We should believe in Allah! It's humans who's making it bad not our beliefs and teachings!
Also, Ms. Asker? I'd like to ask for a favor, a user whose user name start with Google blocked me so can you please reply "Human nature is changeable with eras and history repeats itself so relying on humanity of each generation's leaders is not a very good choice" in my stead if you can?
Ofc I will do this right away! :) and yes! May Allah guide us all, Ameen xx
No problem here, although I'm an atheist so, all religious people as poor sods, victims of indoctrination in need of deprogramming... But not a reason to be a bigot about it.
They are allowed to practice their Muslim religion without people judging them I do support them 100% with no judging and for those who do judge shame on them.
I oppose all religion, and especially abrahamic religions. Drop the oppressive religious cult nonsense and I'm happy to welcome you.
We form a cult not.
Maybe US should stop fucking up middle east countries, and overthrowing their governments, and extremism would less like overtake those places.
@J2ohhhhh I believe that as well.
strong dislike for the religion cause of the way women are treated
So much misunderstands, sister. It isn't the religion, it's the people in wrong. By it religious or non-relegious, people who force others into things exists everywhere.
@Rania05 I mean if the religion is being interpreted in the wrong way, it doesn0t matter, that0s how it is practised, that is the true religion that people follow, that is their belief
At least I'm not forced into anything as Muslim, nor do anyone I know personally. Though I know some though gossip who're less sane for practicing Islam without the essential, I call them failed Muslims
How do they treat women?
they are forced to cover up and listen to men about most things
My dad has to listen to my mom, my uncle has to listen to his wife, my mom's friends has their husbands in check because they feel they're unreliable but maybe that's the case in Morocco because women are trying to be strong as men are getting more casual.
Not even my mother has say in me wearing hijab or not, and she didn't wear it herself until she felt like covering herself at her 30s.
@Rania05 sure not all muslims practice religion the sam way. i dont hate muslims, anyone can be a good person, but i think islam is obviously causing a lot of issues in many countries and thus i would never support it
Feminism is taken the wrong way, the two concepts of abuse and cheating forms is taken the wrong, different sexualities are taken wrong, medical herbs are taken wrong, cultures are taken wrong, both genders takes each other wrong and etc...
The world can't be black and white as long as humans do live on earth.
@Rania05 I wouldn't compare all these to islam as "wrong" understanding of feminism/etc. in my eyes isn't majority while while "wrong" understanding of islam is
No one is forced, stop learning of other culture from media.
@Kelly6 I wonder than why woman was beaten to death cause of not waering hijab
Yes some people do force women to cover up and abuse them but that isn’t Islam. That’s culture. People mix their own personal culture with religion. If a religion says no to something and someone still practices abuse then they are simply not following that religion. They are extremist and should be jailed
I don't know what other girls are talking about but islam does have misogynistic rules and yes it is said in the quran that a man can beat his wife and that the woman should follow her husband and that she is obligated to have sex with him even if she doesn't want to and that the man have the double of the woman's heritage etc... We should stop lying to ourselves it is true that there are many muslims that are kind but they are most of the times people who aren't very religious they are just following their families. i was a muslim before and i know what i'm talking about. If the religion is misunderstood by muslims then why it exists in the first place why "god" created it while he knows that people are gonna misunderstood it. Also please tell me what is the real islam cause i personally don't know which one it is. the one that muslims follow? The one that sheikhs talk about? The quran only? The sunna? Daich? What is islam? Everyone claims that others don't understand the religion in the right way while the problem is in the quran itself because it isn't clear and it can be misinterpreted in many ways
@Nottooimportant first off I’d like to tell you how you’re wrong, the quran does not say hit/ abuse anyone, second it doesn’t say the women should follow the husband and it doesn’t say the man can rape the women. Ask anyone who has studied it. Yes men and women are different. Allah made the man the bread maker of the family whilst the women can either work or stay at home her choice, either way he has to take care of her and make sure she is perfectly fine. Islam is obviously what is written in the Quran and hadith so if you believe in random people telling you fake facts about islam then you need to educate yourself. I agree people do mix culture with religion and that’s why we have a bad rep but if they stopped then it would be perfect
I was a muslim and i'm arab my first language is arabic and i can read the real version of islam I don't know about the translated versions. And i'm 100% sure of what i am talking about i think you are the one who should check out your religion bc you doesn't seem to understand the basics of it
Quran*
@Nottooimportant question,
Was this not also done in every religion?
Truth is it’s in every religion but others erased it.
Also because i left islam i can't tell anyone about it only my small family knows. Because in islam the "murtad" aka ex-muslims should be killed. Is this what you call a peaceful religion?
@Nottooimportant wasn’t this done in Rome too?
@Kelly6 i'm non religious and for me all religions are the same. But don't deny things that are in your religion and lie about it just say the truth if you are really convinced
@Nottooimportant Catholic sweetheart
@Kelly6 i'm talking in general.
@Nottooimportant you forgot about slavery !
@Kelly6 ofc there are many other issues. Also there is no real evidence that religions are true.
@Nottooimportant you are doing good, let all that anger out.
@Kelly6 lol i'm not angry i just replied to the things that they were saying that i think aren't true and unlike religious people i respect everyone and i'm not forcing anyone to follow. And Usually i don't discuss religions because it doesn't concern me anymore
@Nottooimportant respect!
Sweetie you just told every religions dark times.
That’s not respect.
Catholic Church has bad times with kids and no one comes to me and insult me
@Kelly6 so telling the truth isn't respect? The first time i hear this.
@Nottooimportant in this case no.
Religion is different and every person believes is different.
You think everyone believes same way.
@Nottooimportant you don’t like any religion doesn’t mean to hate everyone
@Kelly6 i don't. Who said that i'm talking about religions not religious people there is different. I can respect religious people and still criticize their beliefs
@Nottooimportant who told you that telling truth is respect?
@Kelly6 who told you that writing a comment is respect? Who told you talking to me is srespect?
Okay this is all ridiculous, Quran never said to hit, rape or opress a woman. They is many times when it tells the importance of men respecting their wives
Give me quotes to where exactly it says to rape, oppress and kill?
@rania05 @Hafia_xo
These are the proofs translated and you can check them by yourselves if you don't believe me.
hadith: Prophet mohammed said “whoever changes his religion, kill him” sahih- al bukhari
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Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God's guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; God is All-high, All-great.
— Arthur John Arberry, The Koran Interpreted, Surah An Nisa Ayat 34
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(4:11) Allah thus commands you concerning your children: the share of the male is like that of two females
Surah An-Nisa 4:11-14
I think everything is clear now
@rania05 @Hafia_xo
Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) reported that the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "If a man invites his wife to his bed and she refuses, and so he spends the night angry with her, the angels will curse her until the morning."
Sahih/Authentic. - [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]
@Nottooimportant the first quotes you’ve given aren’t verified. All non muslims always quote those and it’s proven to be false. It’s not in the quran nor Hadith therefore it’s not authentic piece of evidence. Secondly the women in bed part, that is true to an extent. She has to have a valid reason, so her saying “my head hurts” is a valid reason and she doesn’t need to do anything. That quote talks about if the women weaponises sex, so if she refuses out of pettiness to hurt him then that’s when it comes it. Again please learn everything before you make accusations :)
They are verified. You know what sahih al bukhari is right? You guys make me doubt that you are even muslims like how don't you know the basics of your own religion. Also i gave you prrofs but ofc you'll deny them and find execuses i'm not surprised.
Ayat from the quran are valid ( surat an nisa). hadiths from sahih al bukhari are valid and if you don't agree then I don't know how you consider yourself a muslim
Al bukhari is a liar, don't believe him. He lead many astray. I don't believe in the bullshit he said, and scholars in our religion gathered to prove him wrong.
@Nottooimportant you do realise that these quotes came from a man like you quoted his name and everything 😂 it didn’t come from the hadith or QURAN. You need to check ur sources sweetie
@Rania05 i wanna tell you that many muslims will consider you as non-muslim because of that. Sunna has a big part in islam and the most import and known book of verified hadiths is al bukhari so yeah. Also i gave you ayat from the quran. That is why i asked before what is the real islam? Some people believe in hadiths some don't some say bukhari is a liar like you some don't some follow the shiaa some follow the sunna some claim thet daish is the real islam some don't like wtf. What is your religion where do i find the true islam if everyone claims they are right and everyone else is wrong lol and god knows all of that and he's completely ojay with it. Honestly i find this super irrational and silly
@hafia_xoS he is the translator and there is many other translators lol. quran was written in arabic if you know? So it needs to be translated. you can look for the hadith by yourself lol am i the muslim or you lol but you hust wanna say any kind of nonsense
Some don't have chances to be seriously educated in schools by Islamic teachers that knows better after years studying, I know Al bukhari was a liar since elementary school.
They consider me non-Muslims? I consider them stupid and pitiful for not realizing how unmatched Al Bukhari's haddiths with the essential in Islam, what he says is utterly ridiculous, I was sober enough to know the lacking of common sense on it as a kid. This shows that blind worship doesn't work, the first Aya Allah gave us is to read, Allah want us to be knowledgeable, to give him the benefit of doubt so we can believe in him even more.
@Rania05 lol there's enough nonsense in the quran itself and honestly i won't answer anymore i already said too much
You quoted and we explained you js don’t wanna accept it because you know it’s the truth lmao
Muhammad (peace and blessings upon Him) gave women rights whilst at His time, they didn’t have much.
There is an old saying that goes like this:
When in Rome, do what the Romans do!
If you come to America 🇺🇸 do what the Americans do. ☮️
Genocide the natives?
Shoot up schools?
they follow the same God as the jews. not a fan of that guy. I think the Muslims are right about woman though and pray that if one of Abraham's God's Prophets wins takes over the world that its the Muslims.
Why do you all keep inviting hate and disrespect? Who knows you yourself may be answerable for it when the time comes.
Please stop these type of questions.
It’s a genuine question to educate people
Please spend about an hour looking at the same question asked about 124,000 times here on GAG. Analyze the responses. Then try to educate people who have already replied IF you have any patience or will left.
Okay?
In the meantime, if you have not already seen this, watch this. If this is not your native language, watch it with captions. If you are able to watch this without a tear from the eye, your name needs to go in Guinness Book. 😂
https://youtu.be/oJaO4JdFWB8
Well Muslim people I have known have been very generous and kind and show concern for other people.
Like all cultures, they have good and bad people and should be treatef as individuals.
I don't have a problem with them in fact one of my professors assigned me to be partners with a Muslim girl for a project the class is doing
Same as everyone else. Don't push your beliefs on me, and we will get along just fine.
It just depends on who you meet, everyone is different individually.