Earth is flat and has four pillars.. and does not move as per Bible đź“–
I'm a Christian and I believe the world is flat. Whatever the Bible says is true. I worship God, not science.
Is the world flat or round?
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Isaiah 24:1 Behold, the Lord lays the earth waste, devastates it, twists its surface, and scatters its inhabitants. Where does Flat come in?
Matthew 4:8 Again, the devil took Him along to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. Where does Flat come in?
1 chronicles 16:30 Tremble before him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved. It does not address its motions.Neither 1 or 2 Samuel 2:28 address pillars.
Joshua 10:13 So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped,
Until the nation avenged themselves of their enemies. Where is the Sun circling earth
Genesis 1 16-17 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth. The sky IS vaulted. Look at it.Looks like 100% Fake News to me. Funny things are that there ARE verses you can stretch. Thee ain't them.
But thanks for making me defend The Word Of G0d.
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Well, first off, let me thank you for actually giving specific verses; few people pushing such idiotic ideas actually go that far. Let's take a look at them:
Isaiah 24:1: "See! The LORD is about to empty the earth and lay it waste;
he will twist its surface, and scatter its inhabitants:"-Nothing about flatness here.
Matthew 4:8: "Then the devil took him up to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence,"
-Nothing here, either.
1 Chronicles 16:30: "Tremble before him, all the earth; the world will surely stand fast, never to be moved."
-This is clearly "move[d]" in the sense of "falter", not in the sense of "change its position in space". Nor does that have anything to do with flatness.
The REAL fun, however, comes with your claims about the book of Samuel, since that doesn't exist. There ARE two books with that name, but 2:28 of the first is "I chose them out of all the tribes of Israel to be my priests, to go up to my altar, to burn incense, and to wear the ephod in my presence; and I assigned all the fire offerings of the Israelites to your father’s house." and the second is "Joab then sounded the horn, and all the people came to a halt, pursuing Israel no farther and fighting no more.". Nothing even CLOSE to discussing the shape of the Earth.
The Earth is round, as you can tell by seeing the shape of its shadow on the Moon. If you don't believe your eyes when it comes to the Moon, how can you believe them when it comes to the Bible?
Remember that God did not give you sense, reason, and intellect with the intent that you never use them.
Gen. 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
Genesis 1 says that the earth began as water only, and water suspended in space always takes the form of a sphere due to the surface tensions of water molecules.
Even our own observations from the ground confirm the earth to be a sphere. When standing on the shore looking out on the horizon, the curvature of the earth cuts off the bottom of ships in the distance.
Beware dear Christian of the teachings you cling to.
2Tim. 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.1Tim. 6:20-21 O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you, avoiding worldly and empty chatter and the opposing arguments of what is falsely called “knowledge” — which some have professed and thus gone astray from the faith. Grace be with you.
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This is your "evidence"? Quotes from the Bible? Answering your question, the Earth is obviously a sphere.
Why the hell am I even responding to this insane garbage? If you really believe the Earth is flat, then you're a f***ing idiot!
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So planes teleport from Japan to California. Fair. I mean entirely false but hey we have people that believe men can be women and women can be men so if you want to believe that the earth is flat (despite the fact you can watch a live feed of the I. S. S. as it travels around the globe ) that is your prerogative. Or the fact plane's fly north to get to Europe because it is shorter than flying east because again... globe. But hey the Bible says the earth is flat so the earth is flat. I'll just have to inform my pilot when I fly from Japan to California in a couple months that we will be experiencing some teleportation as we are magically being transported to the other side of the flat surface of earth. I'm sure he'll get a kick out of that
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I get a point if I write a comment. In my opinion, this debate is a dumb waste of time. I grew up Christian. Went to bible believing Churches my whole life, never once was I taught that the Earth is flat. Since 2007, I have been in the scriptures on a daily basis, and don't get the impression that the bible teaches the earth is flat. Sure you can take some scriptures out of context and get the bible to say whatever you want. But the Hebrew and Greek texts didn't have bible verses in them. Those were added so that we could find things easier. But now days people use them to take the bible out of context, and soon you got this mess.
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Well that sucks for you. Knowledge is way more powerful than believing in invisible gods. Man , created gods to control people with fear. Or brainwashing. Which obviously you are. You believe people from thousands of years ago where not much knowledge existed.. Science is testing and proving it. If let's say man never found the bible, how would you even know about gods? Science you can scrap all the books in the world. And remake those books with same exact results. Doing does something, believing and sitting on your ass praying does absolutely nothing.
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What you want to "believe" is up to you. You can believe the moon is made of green cheese, that unicorns are real, etc., it's of no consequence to me. There is an abundance of documentary evidence that the world is round, so it's not up for discussion anymore. There's a reason why earth is referred to as the Big Blue Marble, not the Big Blue Frisbee.
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One can believe whatever one wants... thst doesn't change reality.
If you truly believe in the Bible, then you believe that God created you in his own image, with a brain and the intelligence to think for yourself, not just blindly follow what others say.
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You shouldn't take everything the bible says literal because it's not all always literal, if you fly in a plane you can see the curvature of the earth, I don't doubt what the bible says but it doesn't mention it's flat anywhere in the bible
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Where I grew up the world indeed is flat.
But it moves when I ride my bike.
The pillars are obvious: they poke through the surface, and have leaves - and sometimes fruit as well.
The sun. Which one? We have a red one, a yellow one, and a white one.
The stars. Are printed on a piece of cloth here or there.
Merry Christmas :)
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Well science have proofs for earth being round, what proof you have? a book?
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Sucks to be you. Hoping you’re just a troll, joking with everyone by broadcasting such horseshit in public. Otherwise, we, collectively, as a species are fucked.
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but your own sources the quotation do not match. as several copied here saved me the trouble.
"god said, bake cake" with a source levitics 1 and genesis 18.
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There's no way you actually believe that. I refuse to believe it. This is why religion is a plague on humanity. It infects the minds of people and is passed down in families. it prevents progress in humanity.
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Well, I'm a Christian too, and I'm also the tooth fairy AND Santa Claus. If the world were flat, my reindeer would be a lot less happy because they wouldn't be able to ride in the jet stream and catch their breath!
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Then you are misreading the Bible and thus an imbecile who understands neither science or religion.
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Symbolic and phenomenological language. Even modern scientists refer to sunrise and sunset.
Also, it is 1 Sam 2:8, not Samuel 2:28, and that is symbolic / figurative. -
This is what happens when critical thinking is banned in schools.
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I have SEEN the curvature of the Earth from 51,000 feet.
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That is the most ignorant statement. Flat Earth=flat head
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You believe what you want. I won't hold it against you.
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Believe whatever you want. it's your life and I hope your beliefs make you happy. Have a great rest of your day.
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It’s flat so we can walk on it coz if it was round we would have to join the circus to walk on it🙂✌️💯
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