What religious books do you have in your home?

[Smartman5]

There is only the Quran in my house. There are other books that explain the Islamic religion in detail. There are no religious books other than these.

[BCRanger10]

A handful of Bibles and catechisms, Thomas a Kempis' Imitation of Christ, St. Francis de Sales' Introduction to the Devout Life, St. Teresa of Avila's The Way of Perfection, and a very wide range of other Catholic theological and philosophical books.

[Smartman5]

Have you read all of these?

[OfDeath]

I have the Bible. A few different versions. I also have a copy of the Bhagavad Gita. I’m not sure if I have the Quran. I’ll have to check.

Nah, don’t have that shit. I have pdfs of it though. A few years ago I got rid of a lot of physical books and just kept pdfs

[Smartman5]

Have you read the Quran? what do you think about it?

I prefer physical books over pdf. Because they are our heritage.

[OfDeath]

Yes I read it. I found it very shallow in original content other than that which is an updated 7th century understanding of the world over the 5th or 6th century BC versions of the Old Testament and of course the obscenities and absurdities of Mohammad.

[Jessica405]

Used to have several books on Paganism. Too many to list, and forgotten some titles. I can remember " The Witches Kitchen", An excellent cook book.

[Paris13]

The Bible and One I Bough the Other Day With Scriptures and Something Through The Eyes of a Guy. xxoo

[Smartman5]

What do you think about the Quran?

[Paris13]

@Smartman5 My Ex Hubby in Egypt Has a Quran and I Respected it. xxoo

[Smartman5]

Very nice

[Paris13]

@Smartman5 Shokrun. xx

[Paris13]

Thanks Be To Gag. xxoo

[CountryWanderer]

I have loads of Christian theology books. I do also have an English translation of the Quran.

[Smartman5]

Have you read the Quran in English? what do you think about it?

[CountryWanderer]

I haven't read it yet. It's on my very long "to read" list

[Smartman5]

You should definitely read it. If there is something you don't understand, you can ask me.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I have Hitler's Mein Kompf... I like to show my Jewish friends when they come over.

[Smartman5]

Do you think Hitler was an anti-Semite?

[FunkyMonkee]

Kampf.

[Smartman5]

@FunkyMonkee what?

[D_Bone_Steak]

Well, @Smartman5 Well I'd say he wasn't fond of the Jews obviously, but seeing as he was training other people that belong to the category of Semitic peoples, I would say he wasn't an anti-Semite. Anti-Jew, yes, but not anti-Semitic.

I mean there is a reason that in some Semitic countries, his book is the #2 best-seller, 2nd only to the Qur'an. That's just off the top of my head from what I remember... I would ask anyone to do their own research if they think I'm wrong about that.

[Smartman5]

I think he also supports the Jews. Because Jews gradually migrated to Palestine before the First World War. This migration continued during and after World War II. Hitler caused the Jews to go to Palestine with his genocide (which cannot be called genocide). Hitler was also a supporter of the Jews. If Israel exists today, Hitler has a great contribution to it.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Yeah, I read that on Wikipedia... that he encouraged the Jews to go there... his main goal was to get the Jews out of Germany, until he came up with 'the final solution.' Also he wasn't so friendly with all the Arab Nations. Like I just read that during his meetings with an Arab leader, he omitted the fact that he had encouraged the Jews to go there prior.
en.wikipedia.org/.../Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world
What I remembered earlier was from a history documentary, but now that I'm reading more into it, he was pretty two-faced with the Arab world. I mean on one hand he praised Muhammed and then on the other hand he still considered Arabs beneath Germans as a race of people. I think all the two groups had in common was wanting to get rid of the Jews for the most part.

[FunkyMonkee]

Kampf, not Kompf.

[Smartman5]

Muslims want to get rid of the Jews, that's true. But the Germans and Hitler are friends, not enemies, towards the Jews. You already knew that Hitler contributed to the founding of Israel. It's a good thing you know this. If we look at today's Germany, we see that it supports Israel. Hitler laid the foundation for this.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@FunkyMonkee Yes I made a grammar error... way to be a Grammar Nazi. 😂 🤣

[FunkyMonkee]

Sieg heil!!

[D_Bone_Steak]

They, under Hitler, were trying to just get rid of the Jews. It was mainly Britain after WW2 that really pushed the Jewish migration after the war and during the de-Natzification of the Germans... they became incredibly liberal (as with most of the West). Now you have most the Western countries jumping on board with this idea of keeping the Jews all in the Middle East as a form of control over the Arab nations... politically speaking when speaking of the West... most westerners don't even have an idea of what I'm talking about... I mean here in the U. S., our current Liberals are split between those that support Palestine and the Neo-Liberals that want war simply because it makes them money. ... of course, that fact is hidden behind all their political reasons given to support Israel.

Politicking is the evil I see. The fucks sent them over that direction before WW2 and after... even the fucking guy that tried to exterminate the Jews in his country with the final solution. With that said they created people like George Soros that bankrupted Britain and send millions of $$$ over to America to support shit like ANTIFA and BLM... he buys out our district attorneys to let criminals off.

The West is pretty corrupt and it's all because of "you know who" influence which I'm sure your people are dealing with as well... just in different ways. There are faults on this side big time, but you gotta admit the other side of things doesn't have a slicky clean record as well. This is the human animals we're dealing with and we have those with political/financial gains to make manipulating or outright attacking humans that are just trying to live their day-to-day lives. That's my hot take in general on the matter overall. With that said... support on both sides finds support each time the other side takes the blood of innocent people. I'm not sure where it will end... but I sure wouldn't trust the political class AKA the leaders on any side.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I mean think about it... they created this mess. Marxist types want to go after the financial upper class, but they never look at the political class... that's why I think communism is retarded as well. You'll all be dirt poor while their political class will have fancy dinners and lots of money. Oppressed vs. oppressor thinking among the unengaged always fail to see that it's not the race, financial class, or the average people being manipulated to be a certain way... It's their political, which is sometimes spiritual, class that motivates all the wrongs for their own gain. <--That's just my little rant about these humans on all sides of things.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@FunkyMonkee 🤣 😂 Dat das es mein neger. lolz

[FunkyMonkee]

Du bist dein eigener Neger!

[D_Bone_Steak]

@FunkyMonkee Dats rite! 😂

[FunkyMonkee]

Most likely, there's a bible here, somewhere as this was my grandmother's house and then my aunt''s house and they were both uber-religious

[Smartman5]

Are you religious?

[FunkyMonkee]

Not in the least. I never saw the point in any of it.

[Smartman5]

Have you researched Islam?

[FunkyMonkee]

What for? My life revolves around music and records. I don't have time or need for religion (brainwashing). If I want to believe in a phony deity, I'll go with Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

[Smartman5]

All people need God. Those who do not turn to God experience psychological problems. You are one of them. Being involved in music does not prevent you from turning to religion.

[FunkyMonkee]

Why? I can get more help from a dog. I don't have any psychological problems and I've seen LOTS of god freaks with SEVERE psychological problems!! Haven't you ever seen, "Carrie". That poor girl's uber-religious mother was in DIRE need of psychological help!! Did you ever hear of the Heaven's Gate cult? What about that nut case that made all his followers drink poisoned Kool-Aid? Where, in the bible, does it say you should do that? This woman that used to live across the street from me was almost as bad as Carrie's mother. She never used to be that way before she got religious! Being involved in religion kept HER from her music!! She used to be the singer in a rock band. Every Halloween, she'd dress up her house and use her band's lighting and sound gear to turn her house into a haunted house and she'd pretend to be a witch for the kids, invite them in for a minor scare and some treats. One day, she discovered she was pregnant so, she quit the band and from that day onward, she'd get up early on Halloween and drive off to a church about 30 miles from here and spend the entire day praying until Halloween was over! She wouldn't let her daughter have any boyfriend's until she was 16 and then she started seeing this guy that was at least 8 years older than her! If they decided to go for a walk, mom went with them following about 10' behind! They weren't allowed to wear anything that went above their knees.
From what I've seen over the decades, it's the religious that are severely nuts!! I'm just not at ALL interested in having to try to remember all those goofy fucking stupid rules!! As far as I'm concerned, live your life and cause no harm to others or treat them any worse than you'd have them treat you! That's the ONLY rule needed!!

[FunkyMonkee]

My ex-sister's uber-religious and that fucking greedy cunt fucked over mom & I and caused me to lose at least a million dollars worth of my things!! Isn't there something in that dusty old book she carries with her EVERYWHERE that says, love thy brother, love thy fellow man and thou shalt not fuck over thine own mother?

[Smartman5]

You told me about Christianity. I am not a Christian, I am a Muslim. You will probably say the same thing about the Islamic religion. Some rules that exist in Christianity also exist in Islam. However, Islam does not make anyone a slave. Of course, there are some rules it imposes. This is the purpose of the creation of the world and humans. It is necessary to live by following these rules. However, those who believe in corrupt religions such as Judaism and Christianity will remain in hell forever. So do atheists like you.

[FunkyMonkee]

What, there's a difference? If you're religious you believe in some invisible man that lives in the sky that NOBODY'S EVER SEEN OR HEARD and it gives you things when you pray for them because, when you were young, you were brainwashed into believing in that shit.
Funny, that's what the christians say about you people! Only YOUR god is the RIGHT one and anybody that doesn't follow your brand of brainwashing will got to hell. How about if I don't believe in hell, either?
What did cavemen do before we created religion?
There's NO god that's gonna help you so, you'd better just do things yourself! Most religious people do things that go against their beliefs and teachings anyway, especially if it suits them to go against those rules so, what's the point of believing any of that shit? They'll even use it to hurt, cheat and steal from other people.
I have no time for such petty bullshit.

[Smartman5]

What I will tell you is that it is not the people who are perfect, but the religion itself. That religion is Islam. Accept it if you want or don't. But when you die you will see everything

[FunkyMonkee]

Okay, whatever.
How many times have you died before?

[OfDeath]

“However, Islam does not make anyone a slave“ Hahahahahahahaha! So you’ve never even read the Quran yourself then.

[Smartman5]

I have never died and come back to this world before. I do not believe in reincarnation. What I mean to say is that we will know the truth when we all die.

[Smartman5]

@OfDeath Yes, the Quran and therefore the religion of Islam does not make anyone a slave. You probably misread a sentence from the Quran about slavery. If you tell me that sentence, I can explain it to you correctly.

[OfDeath]

Hahahaha! “Misread”. This type of denial is typical of religious zealots who have no knowledge of how historical context is used to correctly interpret historical text.

I’m not going to waste time by giving you the actual content and then have to read more delusional denial from you. This is not my first rodeo bud. If you had actually read the Quran you would know exactly what I was talking about.

[FunkyMonkee]

You may know the truth but that doesn't mean there IS a heaven or hell!

[FunkyMonkee]

@OfDeath Isn't funny how most of the people that know these religious texts and actually read them are those that are atheists?
A decade or so ago, I read Genesis just to see where all the extra people came from. Adam & Eve had 3 SONS! One killed the other which is why they had the third to replace the dead one. One day, these two go wandering through the woods and find girlfriends!! There's ONLY 4 people on the ENTIRE PLANET and 3 of them are guys!! The ONLY woman is the wife of one guy and the mother of the other two! How likely is it that they just HAPPENED to find two girlfriends in the same area when they could've been ANYWHERE on the planet? And, WHERE did they come from? Genesis says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about where these girls came from!! And, from this EXTREMELY limited gene pool, we're lead to believe that we ALL come from Adam & Eve!! There HAD to be either a LOT of incest going on or a LOT of love mates that just HAPPENED to fall out of the trees when they were most needed!! I've been in dire need of one for 28 years!! Where's mine?

[Agent_Elflord]

My mom may still have some Catholic schooling books around here somewhere and my sister may have some Celtic Pagan stuff too.

[Smartman5]

So what is your religion?

[Agent_Elflord]

Atheist. Never had any interest in church or religion as a kid, nor now as an adult.

[Smartman5]

What do you think about Islam?

[slatyb]

None AFAIK. We're not religious.

[Smartman5]

Why?

[slatyb]

Because there is absolutely no evidence to support the existence of God never mind the absurdity of all religions.

[Smartman5]

Who created the world, the people, the universe? It did not occur on its own. Don't talk to me about your athetic theories!

[slatyb]

Why do you think it had to be created?;There's no evidence
And even if it was, there's still no support for any

[slatyb]

... Religion , no evidence that a deity is active in the universe, no evidence for an afterlife. Your argument only supports Deism.

[Smartman5]

It is ridiculous that you ignore God, who created the world in such an orderly manner. Islam is a religion that also emphasizes reason. There are expressions such as "do you not think or do you not see" in many places in the Quran.

[slatyb]

Why shouldn't I ignore God? If there is a God, it is ignoring us. I don't care what is in the Quran or the Bible or any other holy book. Those books with their fantastical tales are not evidence of anything, any more than the Harry Potter books are evidence for the existence of wizards and dementors and house elves.

[Smartman5]

You gave up on everything in the first place. It's hard to tell you the truth from now on. I can't do this, but I want you to be guided.

[slatyb]

Things that support your beliefs are not evidence to me. I see no truth in the Quran, the Bible, the Book of Mormon, or any other religion -- it's just stories someone made up. If God were real and wanted people to know it, God would make it's existence plain. It never has. All we get is people making hand-waving arguments like "something can't come from nothing" while they claim that their imagined God did somehow come from nothing. If God is eternal, why not the physical universe? When someone can make a prayer and get a predictable result, then I will believe. Can you do that? "God works in mysterious ways" is the same thing as "shit happens".

[Phoenix98]

Just the bible.

[Smartman5]

Are you reading it? Which Bible do you have at home? As far as I know, there are four known Bibles. Which one do you have?

[Phoenix98]

I do read it I am a Christian after all and I have the NKJV it's the most accurate one.

[Smartman5]

What is your evidence that it is true?

[Phoenix98]

History, the king at the time who commissioned it spent a great deal of money, time and resources to make sure that the NKJV was as accurate as humanly possible.

[Smartman5]

So what do you think about the Quran?

[Phoenix98]

I don't have much thoughts on it.

[Smartman5]

Also try reading it. I would recommend. Will you do?

[Phoenix98]

I'll look into it sometime.

[Smartman5]

I am waiting for news from you

[Phoenix98]

Well it won't be any time soon got a lot of stuff going on work, etc. But I'll look at bits and pieces of it when I can.

[Smartman5]

Okay

[strateguy632]

good way to prevent choice. only know one.

[Anonymous]

A book on Judaism from the 1880's... nothing else

[Smartman5]

So qre you Jewish?

[Smartman5]

Are*

[Opinion Owner]

No, just saw it a while ago cheap and decided to educate myself

[Smartman5]

In which field will you train yourself? Do you have a plan?

[Opinion Owner]

The nature of my business puts me in touch with many people of the Jewish faith so it'll craft some understanding because those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it

[Smartman5]

Jews are the most despicable people

[Opinion Owner]

A nazi, oh boy

[Smartman5]

No, I'm not a Nazi. I hate Hitler. because he supported the Jews in establishing Israel by committing the "so-called Jewish genocide". I hate Jews because they are the enemy of the whole world

[Opinion Owner]

Ah a Nazi who doesn't admit to being a nazi *checks notes* even worse a leftist

[Smartman5]

I am neither a Nazi nor a leftist.

[Opinion Owner]

So you claim

[Smartman5]

Nope

[juliammm]

None

[Smartman5]

Why? What is your religion? Are you Atheist?

[juliammm]

Atheist

[Smartman5]

Why?

[juliammm]

Because in a way, everybody is, I am just consistent.
Nobody believes in all the gods that are worshiped or were ever worshiped. So everyone has a lot of gods they don't believe in.
The Atheism is more consistent, we do not believe in any god, and not just the majority of them.

[Smartman5]

What is the reason of this? If there is a God who created the world, why don't you believe in God?

[darline19]

Same

[Smartman5]

Are you Muslim?

[NathanDavis]

none

[Smartman5]

Why? What is your religion? Are you Atheist?

[NathanDavis]

not an atheist, no

I'm agnostic

[Smartman5]

Knowing the existence of God is possible by feeling it.

[JacobJordan]

None.

[Smartman5]

Why?

[JacobJordan]

Because religion is silly in my opinion.

[Smartman5]

But why?

[JacobJordan]

Simple answer? In nearly 40 years I have seen nothing to suggest a deity exists. Have seen nothing that science, logic or rational thinking can't explain. That being said I don't believe one doesn't exist I just haven't seen proof of one. I don't knock folks that do believe unless they try and push it on people. Many religious people find solace, hope and purpose from religion so I think religion can be a good thing.

[Smartman5]

Who created the world? Who created this order in the world? If there was no god, would there be such an orderly world? The Quran was sent down by God 1400 years ago. People have only recently accessed much of the information contained therein. In this case, how can you claim that there is no god?

[JacobJordan]

You know I said I don't have a problem with people being religious until they start trying to push it on people? Yeah you turning in that guy pretty quick. You can apologize and respect my choice of belief and go on your merry way or you can keep being that guy. Your choice.

[Smartman5]

I am not an oppressive person. Islam does not oppress anyone anyway. It gives freedom of belief to everyone. I respect your belief, but at the same time, I want you to reach the right path as per the command of Islam, that's all.

[JacobJordan]

That isn't respecting ones beliefs mate. Respecting ones beliefs is upon finding out they are x you say "alright"

[Smartman5]

You may be right, but my religion invites me to call people to Islam. Isn't it right for me to do this? It would be a good thing for me if that person accepts it. If that person doesn't accept it, it won't be bad for me. Because I did what was necessary.

[JacobJordan]

'Right' is a matter of morality. Not a matter of objective fact. My statement was "I don't care what people believe as long as they don't push it on others" that is an objective fact. By "calling people to it" you are being disrespectful. By arguing that fact you are being further disrespectful. Should you continue to argue it I will respond the way I normally do when dealing with religious people that can't respect people's boundaries. The choice is yours

[Fireguy17]

none.

[Smartman5]

Why? What is your religion? Are you Atheist?

[Fireguy17]

I was baptized and confirmed in the Congregational church in the village.
I just don't have any religious books in the house, no particular reason why.

[Smartman5]

I understand

[jjj101010]

None