What kind of people are Muslims in your eyes? Have you had any Muslim friends?
I have had Muslim friends and no better people.
But there are unfortunately problems with some. As it is a niche religion in western countries there is going to be a circle the wagons factor. It is not just a religion but is also a way of life because Muslim live their religion. and this would reinforce circling wagons. I would see this as causing community self isolation which is problematic.
From inception Islam has been militant; conquering other countries and imposing Islam on subjugated populations. Holy War is a concept with more than one interpretation but most every western country has seen jihadism attempts if not successes. I am happy that most Muslims don't have that view but the fact is you only need a few cells to cause a large amount of damage.
In my country we would have respected that the killing of Israeli babies by Hamas be condemned by Islamic clerics but no they led street parties. I can't blame Muslims alone because a large part of it is the Loony Left that is also targeting other Australians.
Now our left woke gov't probably won't allow hate speech cases to proceed but they ought. We can't allow exemptions for hate speech for Muslims and the Loony Left.
Reluctantly I have to conclude Muslims are more problem than they are worth as immigrants on even a humanitarian basis. Too great a risk and lots of other more deserving of humanitarian immigration. Our woke gov't is going down the gurgler and I am pretty confident their handling of it will sweep them past the S bend at the next election.
Australian Labor always fucks up on immigration so I'm expecting it to be a oncer gov't. It has helped they have just released a Jihadist that was working on blowing up our largest stadium when 100,000 people were watching a football grand final.
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+1 ythey submit to book quran which contains a mix including... you know what.
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Asker+1 yYes I know , do you read a quran
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yes, that is what kept me away. i almost joined islam, but if quran true, that god is mercy, then the quran content not from THAT merciful one just Jibril. i knew not to submit to a book, that not from merciful allah. a good person wouldn't submit to book quran.
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+just +from Jibril.
Asker+1 yI agree
Asker+1 yMuhammad is a fake messenger, Jesus Christ explained the word of God to us, and fake messengers said that fake messiahs would be born, the Koran is composed of the book of the old testament Tanakh and the new testament Bible, we can call the koran Tanakh, also the Arabs are pagans, the god they call Allah is el ilah , that is, the moon god, the word allah has been derived from el ilah over time
I have two of them in my friend circle. They're the nicest people I have known. We don't agree with everything but I still have tremendous respect for them.. the way they handle things. They're also very unapologetic about their religion which is good for them ig..
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Asker+1 yMuslims are very strange, my friend, I am a devout Christian, unfortunately there are too many Muslims around me, everything you expect is lying, cheating, very loose, they are very strict towards people outside their religion, that's why I don't make friends with them.
Asker+1 yI am pleased for you
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nice until you try having a calm dialog about their book... i had muslim friends... had.
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@strateguy632 ain't that interesting that I *had* friends people of other faiths as well till I tried having a dialogue about their books or wrongdoings?
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@sojust - Muslims are very strange, my friend, I am a devout Christian, unfortunately there are too many Muslims around me, everything you expect is lying, cheating, very loose, they are very strict towards people outside their religion, that's why I don't make friends with them.
You could say the same of many devout Christians. Many have few morals or ethics it is why they so desperately pay into the donation box at church, hoping that they can pay their way into Heaven instead of the Hell which they deserve. My grandmother was a devout Christian and the others in her group were so desperate to leave after every session they were almost running each other over in the parking lot.
Asker+1 y@PetLover24 They can't be as good as Muslims, my friend, Muslims are nothing, they feel grudge and hatred towards you when you don't do their worship, they judge you because of your belief, if you don't follow their beliefs, they try to draw you to their own beliefs, their religion is completely imposed.
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@sojust - They can't be as good as Muslims, my friend, Muslims are nothing, they feel grudge and hatred towards you when you don't do their worship, they judge you because of your belief, if you don't follow their beliefs, they try to draw you to their own beliefs, their religion is completely imposed.
You're describing devout Christians to a T. Christians in fact are many times worse because they make up beliefs that aren't even part of their teachings and judge others harshly when the Bible says repeatedly that no body - not even an infant for they too are born in sin - has the right to judge anyone else.
Muslims merely do as they are taught, they don't make shit up like Christians, and what you describe is widely the least educated.
Asker+1 y@PetLover24 You are talking nonsense. Christians don't talk nonsense. The religion of Arabs is better than Muslims. There is no religion called Islam anyway. Those who come after Jesus Christ are false messengers and false Messiahs. Jesus Christ told us in the Bible that there will be no messenger after me. Muhammad is a false messenger.
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@sojust - thank you for proving me right about how devout Christians are as bad or worse than Muslims.
Asker+1 y@PetLover24 No, I did not prove you right, you live with a devout Muslim for a day, then you will see that you will be covered in black sheets, your husband will have 4 wives, he will beat you every day, then you will search for him with candles.
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@sojust - thank you for proving me how devout Christians are as bad or worse than Muslims. Did you not comprehend any of your religious teachings wherein GOD and Jesus says YOU have NO right to judge others? ... And all you are doing is judging, harassing, etc. all of which you claim Muslims do. Whereas that's just the uneducated. Educated Muslims are very respectable people.
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@sojust - but with Christians the toxicity of their attitudes goes from the least educated to the most educated. Whereas with Muslims the least educated are often the toxic & the educated know better.
Asker+1 y@PetLover24 No, you do not know Islam, no Muslim is respectful, their prophet married a 6-year-old child, do not come and defend me like this without knowing it, learn it well first, then come and defend it, you cannot live as a Muslim by twisting it to suit your mind, anyway, I will not argue with you further, have a good day.
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@sojust - I happen to know Islam very well. I come from a family that goes all the way back to the Crusades. Only idiots don't learn about other religions and just make judgements based on nothing.
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@sojust - whereas you can't even look in the mirror and admit that you, like the least educated Muslims, is nothing but a tyrant trying to force others into your belief without considering how your own behaviour is unsavory and undesirable.
Asker+1 y@PetLover24 You don't know anything about Islam, let it explode in your face, I won't argue with you.
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@sojust - can you look at yourself in the mirror & call yourself a good person when you judge others harshly - though your own religion says that you have no right or permission to do so because you are born of sin and into sin?
Can you look at yourself in the mirror & call yourself a good person when you harass & belittle other religions though your own religion says that all religions are to be respected and those of other religions are to be given respect. That one is to convert others to Christianity by embracing them as one not belittle them into believing that they are wrong.
I have some of em as my friends n 2 Muslim coworkers
they been always nice n friendly to me34 Reply- +1 y
those are probably the ones who fled from the fanatic so sincerely calm. the problem starts when the ones from whom these fled can come... and people fear threats etc.
s +1 ythey r pretty religious n strict about it but they never harmed anyone or forced anyone to accept their opinions n beliefs
u may assume they r fanatic if u meet em but u would drop the idea as soon as u interact with em
also no, they didn't run away from anyone, from what I have seen, they go back to their countries each holiday to meet their families n friends- +1 y
you wrote "as soon as u interact with em" , yes the first meeting, then you try to be frendly and discover. I had... had. keep a safe distance, ignorance is bliss with coworkers.
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+1 yWell, a concept often lost in the US (and many Western countries to be fair) is that Islam, like Christianity, has subgroups or sects within it. The difference in your interaction can vary greatly depending on that. Not all Muslim encounters are the same, which is true of all humans belonging to any group.
Christianity has Baptist, Protestant, Catholic, Mennonite, Jehovahās Witness, Mormon, and so on. The perpetual assholes of the Westboro Baptist Church who spread hate claim to love the same Jesus as Mother Teresa did. Go figure.
Muslims have hanafu, Sunni, Shia, Deobandi, Sunni Bhora, Twelver Shia, and so on. Some spread love and kindness. The warmth of being welcomed into a Muslim home as a guest is done by one who loves the same Allah as another who will stone women for not covering themselves head to toe. Go figure.
Iāve met Muslims that were kind, warm, and welcoming people. Iāve met some that really needed to just stop breathing. Regardless of religion there is a spectrum of people who are wonderful, good, āmehā, bad, and downright evil from any group.
On the balance Iāve liked most religious people Iāve met in my travels around the world. That includes Buddhist, Hindu, Christians, Muslims, Taos, and probably my personal favorites, Sikhs. There are few Christians and Muslims I wish I hadnāt come across but such is life. Itās their personality thatās flawed, not their religion so much.
Really didnāt care for the Sciencetologists, Wiccan (but she sure was pretty!), or satanists Iāve met.11 Reply- +1 y
true different response to hadith but like "all Christian sect contain bible all muslim submitted to quran." that differs from "generalizing" by skin color etc.
I was Muslim for 10 year and i grow up in arbic country
It was the worst experience in my life they believe that making science is a religious sin. They speak of name of the Qurāan and do not apply any of the provisions of the religion. They like to kill each other and violate the privacy of people, even their children. Most young men go astray and live in their familyās house until their death. All their songs talk about their mother and women. Even a man has the right for four women and his sister does not. She marries a man who was married before. Even most women dominate a man
This what aim going to say about Muslim people11 Reply
Asker+1 yI agree
There is interesting muslim guy on GAG, muslims not allowed to be friends of non-muslims.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/friends-with-jews-christians.aspx
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Asker+1 yVery interesting, who does this and why?
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A muslim who does not want to be friends with me, it's his/her choice, than i won't be their friend, i'll only be a friend to those who wants me to be their friend...
Asker+1 y@TonyMetal___86 Muslims are very strange, my friend, I am a devout Christian, unfortunately there are too many Muslims around me, everything you expect is lying, cheating, very loose, they are very strict towards people outside their religion, that's why I don't make friends with them.
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@SoJust muslims are allowed to lie to non-muslims, so they can lie about being friends.
www.thereligionofpeace.com/.../taqiyya.aspx
Asker+1 yYes.
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Lol, never heard of this crap. Also, if anything... Islam considers Christians and Jews as people of the book and recognized their prophets etc. It does not necessarily recognized all of their beliefs because it believes their books were corrupted by people over time. Islam is like version 3 of the same religion.
+1 yEveryone keeps going on about how hateful Muslims are yet I've met some Protestants who are way worse. Constantly going on about how everyone is going to burn in Hell, especially their fellow Catholics. Jews are closed off and are way worse than Muslims too.
When it comes to Islam, it depends on which sect they're from. Shi'a, the sect I converted to, are incredibly nice and down to Earth. Sufis and Ahmadiyyas, although a bit weird, are charitable.
It's the Salafis and Wahabbis that give the religion a bad name. They're very strict and adhere to a lot of rules. A lot of them are similar to protestants and stick to themselves. I've been around them before in a mosque setting when I first converted and couldn't handle it anymore.01 Reply- +1 y
way worse? than abducted "captives" as commanded in quran?
still held hostage FOUR months including 9 u. s. citizens as biden confirmed and abandoned, FORGOTTEN, or broadcasted beheaded to scare people. but christian way worse! sarcasm.
m +1 yThey are people like everyone else, you have decent and normal ones and you have those with extreme views. Yes I have Muslims as friends.
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Asker+1 yDo they impose their religion on you?
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No friends donāt do that, š¤¦āāļøš¤¦āāļø
Asker+1 yThey did it to me
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And? Itās a bit like if my other religious friends said anything overly religious about Christianity etc, you just tell them to shut up or fuck off. The thing about friends, they respect each other and what we will put up with and will not. If they donāt, then they are not friends.
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+1 yOne of my 2 best friends is Muslim. I get along great with him, but I honestly will never come to terms with his religious views. I tell him all the time that it's sheep behavior and we'll have tons of debates about religion.
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Asker+1 yIf possible, discuss religious matters with them
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I just said I do š
+1 yI do have a lot of muslim friends and i see them as ordinary people just like anyone else, they have their own traditions and beliefs just like anyone else...
In the end, i respect everyone who respects me no matter what they believe in...43 Reply- +1 y
good approach unntil you find the content of their tradition. for example on this page see the replies of al_mus.
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@strateguy632 i do know about such people, also there's new member on gag i guess her name is Fatimah from Saudi Arabia, people like her are muslim extremist or aren't open minded, that's why i can't be friends with such people...
When the muslims that i know starts to do things that will bother me or makes me feel that i'm disrespected than i'll unfriend them, i'm not attached to anyone by the way...
+1 yIt is one of the most toxic, yet kind types of religions, lmao. Well not the religion, but the culture if they have family from the Middle East.
I say this due to the stories I have heard from the several Muslims I know with one of them being an ex. The religion itself can be beautiful though.00 ReplyIn my limited experience, Muslims are just people. Most of whom just want decent work and opportunities for their children.
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just? that ignored their identity and characteristics.
+1 yI don't think too much of Muslims. They are people like everyone else they believe what they believe and as long as they don't push it on me we get along. I have had 2 Muslim friends and I had 3 Muslim staff. I made sure that they could take the time to observe there religious practices during Ramadan. Also made sure they were alright during their fast
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+1 yI have mixed feelings about Islam. On one hand, I do admire how their societies have been good at keeping the disgusting degeneracy of feminism and this disgusting queer shit at bay unlike the Western "Christian" societies that have embraced it to their detriment. On the other hand they to some really barbaric shit like 9/11, 10/7, and female genital mutilation.
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but the way is by calling gay mentally ill, that is too far. they could be fact based germaphobe insted. like gay have TWICE rate of herpes, that can spread by hand and sometimes chronic sv2. forever. hard to find data but at health websites.
2.5K opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. I have had Muslim friends, although almost no one I know is religious.
Islam is about as silly as all the other religious beliefs. I feel sad for the residents of the Islamic theocracies.14 Reply- +1 y
you remind me of page 46 in book dawkins god delusion, such nonsense to group and equated...
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@strateguy632 What? Didn't read that, didn't have to.
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and yet you wrote the same grouping "islam is a religion, islam motivated normative people to do bad, therefore "religion" is bad" but a rectangle is not a square!
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@strateguy632 I did not write that. I wrote that religion is silly.
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yThe same things I think about Christians, that they should have no place in my country.
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Asker+1 yIn which country do you live?
Opinion Owner+1 yGermany
Asker+1 yGood
+1 yMy experience with Muslims varies wildly. They are either really nice, or they are the most entitled, aggressive jerks you could imagine. It's rare for me to encounter any that aren't one extreme or the other.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yThey're two faced hypocrites and they genuinely believe violence is justified to defend their honor
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Asker+1 yThey're two faced hypocrites and they genuinely believe violence is justified to defend their honor
Asker+1 yYes I agree
+1 yThey seem to have different views on freedom of religion and speech: blasphemy laws, for example. The only countries that have death penalty for blasphemy or apostacy are Muslim majority countries.
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+1 yI had Muslims coworkers. Still good friends with one after all these years. We may not agree on religion but through our conversations I understand it better
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And so many crimes are committed under the guise of religion, it's always about power and money. Whether Christianity, Islam, the Protestant church...11 Reply- +1 y
sad but true, people sin but... which sin VIOLATED its own book, in contrast to, cruelty commanded in one book?
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yYeah sure. Being around Muslims was the first reason behind my reversion to Islam from atheism. Love them.
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really? wow.. can i know more about your story?
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@Light_beam "yeah sure" sarcastic style plus anon. yeah sure!
Their bond with their family seems to be stronger than mine.
30 ReplyI hate them. They are bigots, pedophilic low creatures.
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+1 yEach person on the planet is an individual.
So I don't have a general opinion on Muslims.
Only on Islam; which is kind of mildly rejecting and amusement.10 Reply 1.1K opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. I Had Once married One, Hun, Out in Egypt. NP Then. xxoo
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Asker+1 ywhat had happened
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once? marriage lasted continued, i hope?
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@strateguy632 I came Back To The States and Found Other Dates and mates and He is Still Married To Me But Has Kids Now with another. lolxxoo
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI donāt like what they are being taught. They grow up with hate.
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Asker+1 yUnfortunately
+1 yi heard they dont shave down there and they are all natural and hairy. woman is it true? and hairy vag is beautiful ā¤ļø
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Not true. Muslims shave the underarms and genitals for sanitary reasons. The custom is to do it every 40 days.
+1 yHave no qualms, it's a multicultural country here for here
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Asker+1 yDo you have a müslim friends
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Nope šš» in the past technically
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High schools and uni's are what they are,
Very down to earth folks and it's showing. Even if i meet them for the first time Sometimes i feel they are kinder than i am 😄
10 Reply3.8K opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. It's almost the month of Ramadhan. Is that anything to do with your question?
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+1 yDeceived heathens that need the gospel of Jesus Christ to be saved, or they will split hell wide open upon physical death.
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+1 yMost I've encountered are like anyone else, decent neighbors who have good days and bad days.
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just ignore their unique identity.
3.4K opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. On an individual basis, I'm fine with them.
10 ReplyTHEY'RE FINE WHEN THEY AREN'T FLYING PLANES INTO BUILDINGS
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m +1 yI see people, as people
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+1 yIāve dated some
00 Reply 466 opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. Taqiyya deceptionists
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 ydont believe what other said. They are not good people. And very dangerous
00 Reply401 opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. Identically deluded as Christians and jews.
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+1 yi am one so what kind of people i am?
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+1 yI am one.
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@Tinat you too?
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@Tinat TabarakALLAH. Not many Muslims I know here. But then again, this site doesn't seem too appealing either š
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@Tinat where are you from, if I may ask?
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@sojust *in response to the deleted opinion* this is surah kafirun "Say, āO disbelievers,
I do not worship what you worship.
Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.ā
Surah an-night? Bruh there is no name of such surah. You're mixing the Arabic 'an' with English word 'night'. Indeed pre Islamic people of Mecca used to worship idols they took the daughters of ALLAH. ALLAH said in the Qur'an regarding this in Surah 53, verse 22 "These ˹idolsĖŗ are mere names that you and your forefathers have made up1āa practice Allah has never authorized. They follow nothing but ˹inheritedĖŗ assumptions and whatever ˹theirĖŗ souls desire, although ˹trueĖŗ guidance has already come to them from their Lord."
Quit misquoting stuff from your sites with cherry picking.
And these are third and fourth verses of Surah at-Tawbah.
A declaration from Allah and His Messenger ˹is made˺ to all people on the day of the greater pilgrimage1 that Allah and His Messenger are free of the polytheists. So if you ˹pagans˺ repent, it will be better for you. But if you turn away, then know that you will have no escape from Allah. And give good news ˹O Prophet˺ to the disbelievers of a painful punishment.
As for the polytheists who have honoured every term of their treaty with you and have not supported an enemy against you, honour your treaty with them until the end of its term. Surely Allah loves those who are mindful ˹of Him˺.
You're quick to allege but fail to quote it from the scriptures because you know it's all lies.
Asker+1 y@al_musafir My friend, when Muhammad was telling the people about Mecca, surat najm 19 20 21 verses also showed the idols mentioned as gods, the God you call Allah is an Idol standing in mecca, the word adi el ilah allah is also derived from el ilah you are idolaters, there is a moon icon on top of your mosques, and your mosques are facing mecca and you are nodding around Mecca because you worship the idol in it
Asker+1 y@al_musafir i will show a few examples of these now, alhamdulillah and Bismillahirrahmanirrahim I will show an example of these two religious words, alhamdulillah -> al-ilah Bismillahirrahmanirrahim also names 3 gods 1st illah -> moon god rahman -> yemeni god rahim -> hell god, do you understand now these periods you threw also tell Muhammad about the Arab idolatry tradition before Islam, because the Arabs were pagans Muhammad has continued it now do not bend and bend according to your head
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@sojust lol can you please be more delusional, cross worshipper?
Alhamdullilla means praise be to Allah.
Bismillaharrahmanarrahim means in the name of Allah the most beneficial and the most merciful
Rahim literally means someone who has mercy. What kind of Arabic are you even translating from? š¤£
If Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam wanted us to worship idols he wouldn't have cleansed the place where there were idols before. He broke every single one of them.
If you can stand reality, look up at the mother tongue of Jesus. It'll be Aramaic. The word for God in Aramaic is literally 'ilahi', 'alaaha'. Jesus was a Muslim. Christianity is paganised and corrupted from what was already informed by prophet Is'ah (peace be upon him). - +1 y
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Can't you read properly? I literally quoted from surah najm. It's verse number 23.
These ˹idolsĖŗ are mere names that you and your forefathers have made up1āa practice Allah has never authorized. They follow nothing but ˹inheritedĖŗ assumptions and whatever ˹theirĖŗ souls desire, although ˹trueĖŗ guidance has already come to them from their Lord.
Allah did recognise the false practices of the arabs of them associating daughters to Allah and then called it out as wrong. Why couldn't you read further than verse number 21?
Asker+1 y@al_musafir LoL my friend, you are very funny, your own prophet has gone, accepted the idols as gods, made a deal with them, you worship the idols in the verses of surat najm 19 20 21, and also read surat kalem 15 in the verse , The old tale says the Meccan Prophet Muhammad Alhamdulillah šš these fake people - > š š God and the moon god El is also God, the Merciful, the word of God in the Qur'an because the Qur'an has subsequently been removed from the name of 3 for telling šš so don't be ridiculous, man in the book of the Koran, the Torah, which is already the Old Testament cakmasidir š š š from the Torah in the book of the New Testament is the Bible God Your Man calintidir 90 percent adi deity an idol š , also, Jesus was not an Arab, Jesus was a Jew, there are 600 years between Jesus and Muhammad, Jesus Christ told us that fake messengers, fake messiahs will be born, we will know them by their fruits, Saudi Arabia already understood that he was a Deceptive prophet when Muammad died šš
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Ok, I get it that you can't read, understand or even quote stuff. One of the side effects of cross worshipping. May Allah guide you though. Worship who Is'ah AS himself worshipped.
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@Tinat just place '@' before the username and the person will be tagged.
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@Tinat haha you're welcome. :D
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yYou can't answer that on this site.
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