Let's Fight. What's your take on all powerful all knowing gods?

[SomothErgai]

Omniscience: the state of knowing everything.

Omnipotence: the quality of having unlimited or very great power.

Suppose an Omniscient, Omnipotent God.

If god is all knowing he must know his own future. If god knows his own future he cannot act in a way that he is not already destined to. If god is not able to act freely he does not have free will. (Neither do you if your own future is already known). If god is not able to act freely he is not omnipotent.

An all powerful all knowing god is impossible as as such can be logically proven to not exist.

Perhaps some other kind of god exists. Just not this one.

[strateguy632]

That is tangled logic because you can't put god "before he chose" because god created time is not bound by time.

Your own wording shows the insanity of the sentence "god knows his own future , he cannot act in a way that he is not already destined to" nobody "forced" god.

[SomothErgai]

We can get I to an argument over what time is and how it does not make sense for something to exist outside of it. But let's side step that for the time being. We don't even need to invoke time. There are actions God takes. And actions God does not take. God either knows every action he will ever take, and therefore is not able to chose alternative actions making him not omnipotent or God does not know what actions he will take and is therefore not all knowing.

The logic is inescapable

[Ms_Facesitter]

I wonder how much God laughs at us trying to make sense of it all. "No pork meat, because that is a sin... HAH!"

And things like luck and instinct, some people will call that God doing His thing. This is the part that triggers me in religion. If there is a God. I wonder if it's like "Yes, that's Me." or another "HAH!"

[SomothErgai]

Luckily I don't think such a god exists. so no worries there. its just us people down here.

[Ms_Facesitter]

I'm open to it since I've experienced some paranormal. "If that's out there, then what else" you know

[SomothErgai]

That's cool. I just went with some friends on a ghost hunting trip actually. I had fun exploring the place but I don't believe in any of that stuff. my friends do though so it was fun watching them think every single thing that happened was signs of ghosts.

[IslaTheWitch]

prove me they exist first... I'm not a person to have an opinion or waste time talking about something that is impossible to observe...

[SomothErgai]

I'm sort of proving they don't exist. so No help there. but even so, there's all sorts of things you can't observe. it's still interesting to talk, and fight, about.

[IslaTheWitch]

not really... oh, I admire people digging into theoretical physics or philosophy... but I prefer the real world :D

there are too many things we can observe, but we can explain...

[SomothErgai]

theoretical physics and philosophy are what I'm all about. Speaking of things we can observe but not explain, consciousness, dark matter, dark energy, and existence itself are fun ones.

[jshm2]

There are no gods, so your question is moot.

Comic gods are a different thing, as you need to go by the original canon, and not the "Netflix canon".

[RSav4013]

This would probably be a more entertaining comment for you if I believed in a god.

[slatyb]

Not logically possible.

[SomothErgai]

That's what I'm sayin