Can a Muslim live his faithfull life without fear in USA?

[Willowwww]

Can a Muslim live their religion without fear in America? Can they go to the mosque as they wish and freely express to others that they are Muslim?

[bunny_luv]

Yes I believe so. Religious beliefs and practices should be respected regardless as long as it causes no harm to others. Religion and politics are two things I don't like to meddle in and don't want to get into a debate about what's right and wrong. To each their own.

[bellicose]

Nope, having multiple wives that you beat isn't going to go over very well. Sleeping with children also isn't go to go over very well. Taking slaves and raping them in front of their husbands won't go over very well. Nor are you the master over other religions from which you can collect jizyah. You will run into many Judeo-Christian laws that side with the Bible and conflict strongly with Islam, because Muhammad is a false prophet and Islam doesn't align with the previous scriptures.

[OTTOMAN_TÜRK]

You are a lowly liar

[Plugs]

Great reply @bellicose

[wkhan_87]

@bellicose actually we can't expect to understand true Islam from a person who is stupid and vile due to hate..
But you should not blaming an ideology without knowing about it very well.
You are clueless about islamic ideology
Your statment is just showing your hate towards Islam

[bellicose]

@OTTOMAN_TÜRK @wkhan_87 Either you're ashamed of your own religion, or you don't know your own religion. It doesn't matter to me which bucket you fall into, but I do understand Islam and what I said can be backed up with references.

[bellicose]

@OTTOMAN_TÜRK @wkhan_87 would you like to be dragged through the mud? I'd be happy to do that since you're such a dishonest shit stain.

[Plugs]

@bellicose true

[wkhan_87]

@bellicose just don't prove your vileness here , we know your actual mental situation and sickness, just don't mess with truth, and if you like eating shit 💩 just eat it but don't say you are right ok , I have no time to argue with brainless foolish person who can't make difference between eating food and shit.. so just eat and don't mess
You brainless people are just for hellfire and we are well aware that.

[wkhan_87]

@Plugs unfortunately you are also vile even female have some morality, but you are vile
I am sad for you

[Plugs]

@wkhan_87 go to Afghanistan

[Plugs]

@wkhan_87 leave America , America is not for Muslims. Go to your useless countries

[wkhan_87]

I am not American

[Plugs]

@wkhan_87 go to Afghanistan , no country wants u

[wkhan_87]

@Plugs i just don't want argument with vile and paedos
So hate true Islam until you reach in hellfire
I still sad for you as a human being

[bellicose]

@wkhan_87 OK I guess we'll put your religion on displace. Islam allows it's followers to sleep with prepubescent Children. It promotes pedophilia. In Islam an iddah is a way of determining whether the wife is expecting a child. This means that a husband and wife have had sex so a woman has to wait to make sure she is not having the child of the man who divorced her. So if we examin al-Talaaq 65:4 we see that the waiting period for minors who have not had their periods yet is 3 months.

“And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the ‘Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubt (about their periods), is three months; and for those who have no courses [(i. e. they are still immature) their ‘Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise”

Islam follows the example of Muhammad who married Aisha at 6 years old and had sex with her when she was 9 years old, even though it is documented that Aisha did not reach puberty until she was 14. Up until that point she was allowed to play with dolls, which is forbid as idol worship except for prepubescent children. Muhammad was a pedophile and he's the greatest of all examples in Islam. Thus, Muslims today are allowed to marry children, and can sleep with children when they can handle it. Girls under 9 years old have to consent to penetration, but at 9 they no longer have to consent. Prior to 9 they are allowed to be touched (fingered) to get them ready... Muhammad wass a fucking pervert, and Islam follows his lead.

[bellicose]

*display

[bellicose]

Then if you go to the Quran in Sura 4:24 it says:

"And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands (as prisoners of war) . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 319). (See also Suras 4:3 and 33:50)"

Thus it is OK for Muslim warriors to take wives of other men as sex slaves and to commit adultery with them. Islam open promotes adultery. It's a reward of Jihad.

[bellicose]

It's easy enough to look up that Muslims are allowed to have 4 wives.

Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar
Ghaylan ibn Salamah ath-Thaqafi accepted Islam and that he had ten wives in the pre-Islamic period who accepted Islam along with him; so the Prophet (peace be upon him) told him to keep four and separate from the rest of them.
Ahmad, Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah transmitted it. (Al-Tirmidhi, Number 945 taken from the Alim CD-ROM Version)

Narrated Al-Harith ibn Qays al-Asadi
I embraced Islam while I had eight wives. So I mentioned it to the Prophet (peace be upon him). The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: Select four of them. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 12, Number 2233)

[bellicose]

As far as beating your wives that's also easy to reference

Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great. S. 4:34 Pickthall

“… But chide those for whose refractoriness ye have cause to fear; remove them into beds apart, and scourage them…” Rodwell

“… And as for those women whose ill-will you have reason to fear, admonish them [first]; then leave them alone in bed; then beat them…” Muhammad Asad

“… If you fear high-handedness from your wives, remind them [of the teachings of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them…” Abdel Haleem

“… But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them…” Umm Muhammad (Sahih International)

“… As for those from whom you fear disloyalty, admonish them, and abandon them in their beds, then strike them…” Tala A. Itani

“… And those whom you are afraid of their disloyalty (in their marital duties), then advise them, and keep away from them in beds, and (if that or nothing else worked) then spank them (fairly and not out of anger)…” Ali Bakhtiari Nejad

“… Those from whom you fear rebelliousness, admonish them and desert them in the bed and smack them (without harshness)…” Hasan Al-Fatih Qaribullah

[bellicose]

Then we can go onto Muslim intolerance/supremacy and extortion of other religions.\

The scholars explained that these two verses, and other similar verses, have to do with those from whom the jizyah may be taken, such as Jews, Christians and Magians (Zoroastrians). They are not to be forced, rather they are to be given the choice between becoming Muslim or paying the jizyah.

Other scholars said that this applied in the beginning, BUT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY ABROGATED by Allaah’s command to fight and wage jihad. So whoever refuses to enter Islam should be fought WHEN THE MUSLIMS ARE ABLE TO FIGHT, until they either enter Islam or pay the jizyah if they are among the people who may pay jizyah. The kuffaar should be compelled to enter Islam if they are not people from whom the jizyah may be taken, because that will lead to their happiness and salvation in this world and in the Hereafter. Obliging a person to adhere to the truth in which is guidance and happiness is better for him than falsehood. Just as a person may be forced to do the duty that he owes to other people even if that is by means of imprisonment or beating, so forcing the kaafirs to believe in Allaah alone and enter into the religion of Islam is more important and more essential, because this will lead to their happiness in this world and in the Hereafter. This applies unless they are People of the Book, i. e., Jews and Christians, or Magians, because Islam says that these three groups may be given the choice: they may enter Islam or they may pay the jizyah and feel themselves subdued.

[bellicose]

Some of the scholars are of the view that others may also be given the choice between Islam and jizyah, but the most correct view is that no others should be given this choice, rather these three groups are the only ones who may be given the choice, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) fought the kuffaar in the Arabian Peninsula and he only accepted their becoming Muslim. And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“But if they repent [by rejecting Shirk (polytheism) and accept Islamic Monotheism] and perform As-Salaah (Iqaamat-as-Salaah), and give Zakaah, then leave their way free. Verily, Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”

[al-Tawbah 9:5]

He did not say, “if they pay the jizyah”. The Jews, Christians and Magians are to be asked to enter Islam; if they refuse then they should be asked to pay the jizyah. If they refuse to pay the jizyah then the Muslims must fight them IF THEY ARE ABLE TO DO SO. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

[bellicose]

“Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allaah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allaah and His Messenger (Muhammad), (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i. e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued”

[al-Tawbah 9:29]

And it was proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) accepted the jizyah from the Magians, but it was not proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or his companions (may Allaah be pleased with them) accepted the jizyah from anyone except the three groups mentioned above.

The basic principle concerning that is the words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning):

“And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism, i. e. worshipping others besides Allaah), and the religion (worship) will all be for Allaah Alone [in the whole of the world]”

[al-Anfaal 8:39]

[bellicose]

“Then when the Sacred Months (the 1st, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikoon (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush. But if they repent [by rejecting Shirk (polytheism) and accept Islamic Monotheism] and perform As-Salaah (Iqaamat-as-Salaah), and give Zakaah, then leave their way free. Verily, Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”

[al-Tawbah 9:5]

This verse is known as Ayat al-Sayf (the verse of the sword).

These and similar verses ABROGATE the verses which say that there is no compulsion to become Muslim.

And Allaah is the Source of strength.

Majmoo’ Fataawa wa Maqaalaat li’l-Shaykh Ibn Baaz, 6/219

Like I said everything I said can be referenced. Now everyone knows that both Muslims that chimed in are lying sacks of shit and they get to have a small taste of how evil Islam is. It's far worse and there are many more bad parts of the religion.

[bellicose]

In the USA you are free to think whatever you want, to write about what you want, and to speak about what you want, but much of the actual practice of Islam in the USA is against the law. It conflicts with the founding morals of Judeo-Christian law which is the source of American law.

[Willowwww]

@Plugs look i am not muslim, i am a christian but i believe we all should be more tolerant to one another

[bellicose]

@Willowwww You tolerate pedophilia, slavery, rape, wife beating, and extortion? What kind of criminal are you?

[bellicose]

@Willowwww You cool with racism also? Islam promotes that as well...

[bellicose]

@Willowwww Muhammad was a White man, that kept Black slaves. Being Black is considered inferior and evil in Islam. All Black people go to hell and all White people go to Jannah. Muslims are suppose to kill people that call Muhammad Black because it is an insult. Muhammad saw Whites as superior to Blacks. When it came to slaves, one White slave was considered equal to two Black slaves, thus Blacks were considered only half of a man.

[Plugs]

Tolerant towards what @willowwww paedophilia?

[Plugs]

@wkhan_87 reply to @bellicose. What happened you Islamic shit?

[Willowwww]

@Plugs i am not here to support islam. But there are good muslims.

[Willowwww]

Not all muslims like that

[Plugs]

Shut the fuck up. There are no good Muslims , rather they don’t have the opportunity to show their real colours

[Dargil]

And then there are the bad things.

[Plugs]

lol look at how the loser now doesn’t know what to say. Islam is shit there’s no denying

[Dargil]

@OTTOMAN_TÜRK You are a Muslim. Same thing. The koran and hadith mandate you lie. Taqiyya.

[strateguy632]

America allows you to go to mosque , but does limit certain teachings of quran the ones i am not allowed to describe here.

You can freely say you are muslim but don't say all the details.

[Plugs]

Because the details are disgusting

[Anonymous]

lol , embracing violence , paedophilia, polygamy isn’t really looked upto u know

[jshm2]

LOL, no. Hatred in the USA is as fragmented as race, culture, laws and status.

But 50% of hate is reserved for Blacks, 25% for Jews, Natives, Chinese, and Russians. The other 25% is shared between Muslims and women in high positions.

[Willowwww]

What about a male who is catholic but from Turkey and is a nurse?

[Dargil]

If a Muslim lives life lawfully according to the high points of our culture, yes. Jews, Hindus and Buddhists do just fine. Their cultural traditions are not tribal. They are assimilationist. So are Italian Catholics.

[wkhan_87]

So America and india same vile and haters of Islam?
Fuck of those devils.

[wkhan_87]

@willowwww bro don't expect those brainless people to understand this straight forward holy Islam.

[wkhan_87]

@Plugs ,, who try to dishonour Islam on the base of hate , i consider them brainless foolish vile
I testify only Islam is true and right way for human welfare

[wkhan_87]

I just don't have time to argue..

[Plugs]

Go to Afghanistan paedo

[wkhan_87]

What's more expectations from a vile person beside showing vileness... Idc about you what you bark

[wkhan_87]

@Plugs I think you are actual and biggest form of paedo

[Agape93]

Can an Atheist live safely and openly in iran?

[Willowwww]

No he can't. But are not USA the land of the freedom?

[Agape93]

It is, but we've been tolerant of shit for too long, and a lot of people aren't going to be for much longer. Muslims cause a lot of problems here, and have for years. Most are fine, but the few have ruined it for you, because the majority don't police their own peoples behavior.