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Fat Shaming and Fat Acceptance are Both Wrong and Hiding the REAL Problem with Female Body Image Representation (Page 2)
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I understand the backlash to the increasingly waif model of the last few decades (hell, I love curvy women myself).
But the pendulum swings too far sometimes. A BMI index of 30 or more is not healthy, and should not be celebrated.
i only find very thin women to be attractive. Any woman who is not completely toned is not a sexual object to me.
Be mad all you want, but bald, short, or hairy backed men are "off the table" for some women. People are allowed to have a preference. It's not sexist or" baldist" or wrong in any way.
Somehow women will have to learn to do without you.
@HannaD most have and I am fine with that
hmmm, what if she was drop dead gorgeous but a little meaty/thick, yet still smoking hot? Like, what if she was 5-10 pounds overweight, but you couldn't really tell all that much because most of the weight went to her boobs and ass?
@DianaWest ok then! I'm in!
I mainly agree. Lovato and Goodger get my vote. Goodger could exchange some fat for muscle and be nicer than Lovato.
Another element her is bone structure. A classic pear carries best, with classic hour-glasses second. Any variation on these skews how mass accumulates.
You see the muffin tops on the overweight women; that means there’s extra fat that the body has stored. They could lose the fat.
Muffin tops are created by tight low rise jeans. And you can be skinny and still have extra fat if you don't exercise
@SirenDep yes but that means the extra fat is signaling the time to be more healthy
There was only one overweight woman shown.
@HannaD that’s the issue is people use weight exclusively and that is a mistake; it should be about the fat percentage. The “overweight” women shown have too much fat.
You can be a healthy weight and have some fat on your body. Curves are technically made of fat.
@HannaD i conifer curves mostly muscle with small amounts of fat. But those stomachs indicate too much fat around the waist
@HannaD No, sweetie. Curves are what you call your excess fat to avoid being honest with yourself. Other people aren't obliged to humor your delusions.
Conifer?
@HannaD ignore the first two words; damn phone has a mind of its own.
Which of the women are you calling overweight? If Kate Upton's overweight, what does that make the rest of us?
I thought it might be one of those special fat shaming codes like FUPA. Some extra fat and being fat aren't the same thing. The body is designed to store some energy in fat. Depending on where and how it's stored, it's attractive to a lot of people. High fashion may think Kate Upton is plush-sized but a lot of guys go nuts for Nicki Minaj.
@HannaD it’s the last two women that are too fat for being the ideal type. Kate Upton is fine; she has a decent shape.
Ok. There were a lot of women perceived as being overweight in the post so, when you didn't specify, I thought you meant all of them. Yeah, the last two probably have a BFP which could stand to go down, even if it's not dangerous or anything at this point.
@HannaD Fupa is not a code and itMs an actual thing: the fat upper pelvic area occurs to people who are obese
Well, it's an acronym most people don't know. I had to look it up when someone told me I had one.
These standards that I have do not just apply to women but I apply it to myself. I am not ripped thus I have too much fat.
I think you look pretty good. But I do appreciate you saying that.
@HannaD I have the shape but not enough definition. I know that I’m not going to wow anyone when I take off my shirt and it might turn people off. That’s why I don’t take off my shirt.
In some ways, I think men have it worse. People think and talk about women's appearance more but they disagree less about men's appearance. There's no marker for the male equivalent of Ariel Winter or Kim Kardashian.
It makes sense; it’s easy to establish that a six pack or v line is sexy. That’s an indication of strength. I think it’s sometimes easier for men to accept that they are fat and
I think you got cut off.
@HannaD I didn’t mean to put the and, stupid phone lol
Well, I don't know if men are more comfortable describing themselves as actually fat than women but men can be sure that any extra fat would be better to lose than not. Most men don't want an obese woman but most men don't particularly want a hard-bodied woman either while almost all women would prefer a hard-bodies man.
@HannaD there’s a lot less push for men demanding for fat acceptance
I don't see how that relates to what I said. People don't actually feel attracted to people because someone tells them they're obligated to be.
@HannaD that’s a comment to a previous comment but to your most recent one, yes people can have their own standard of attraction it generally people can agree on who is hot and not.
People agree more with men than with women. Ignore people like Ashley Graham whose careers are basically based on politics, not attraction. There's still a big difference between female sex symbols like Amber Rose and, say, Gigi Hadid in terms of body tone. You don't really see anything comparable with men. Like, yeah, Chris Pratt is cute and not really fat, but everyone thinks his stomach would look better if it looked like Chris Hemsworth's.
What a lot of people don't understand is that looks don't always indicate how healthy or unhealthy someone is. Someone can be considered chubby or even fat and still be very healthy.
Overweightness related health issues represent 30% of healthcare spending, the most of any other cause.
About 80% of healthcare spending goes to treatment of preventable conditions caused by lifestyle choices.
Demi lovato has a perfectly curvy body 🤤 fat acceptance is so ridiculous when being overweight is unhealthy
These are the kind of things that lead to eating disorders, the comparisons. How celebrities cope, I will never know. A good mytake tho.
TLDR for sure. If you're fat then eat less, or better, and move more. You'll lose weight.
And yeah, the whole body-positive thing is just to make fat girls feel better. pfft
I agree. But saying the average woman is a healthy weight is wrong
BMI isn't a great indicator of health. My BMI is 25.4 which is considered overweight yet my boyfriend is 13% which is considered athlete.
body fat
thanks, gag for changing the acronym b. f. to boyfriend...
Yeah I know, that's why I left very athletic and older women out of the examples. I'm referring to the most common body composition displayed by famous people, aka the body composition BMI assumes, so that I can use examples of something somewhat quantifiable rather than purely speculative.
Omg 😂😂😂
Bmi is mostly nonsense as people with the same bmi can have completely different body compositions.
society is going into wrong direction by promoting overweight now.
How? Only one overweight woman, even marginally, in this post.
@HannaD I’m mostly talking about United States
I know. The post is mostly women in the United States.
Look at Hanna's rate me and you'll see why she's so defensive.
@LadyTiffany lol completely understand
We're the same size.
@HannaD No, you're not.
None of the girls you named on here as "too thin" are too thin. They're all beautiful and healthy. Also, Demi Levato is fat.
No, she is not. She is skinny af, curvy, but not fat. I guess you are a skin and bones type of guy. Suit yourself, when you grab your girlfriend's ass and all you grab are a few folds of skin and bone. And in the end, I really don't give a fuck if anyone thinks I am too fat. I am overweight by 10 pounds, does that necessarily mean I am going to die at the age of 30? No. My grandparents were overweight all their life, yet have managed to live until 80. It depends also on what you eat. Some people gain weight more easily than others, even if they eat just like everyone else. Their metabolism is slower, they may have health problems that makes losing weight 10 times harder. I don't want to be unhealthy or too fat to be unattractive, but the weight I am at now, I am perfectly healthy, hot and happy. I don't need some guy telling me I'm fat, I don't give a fuck. Demi Lovato is perfectly sexy, too bad you will never be able to find AND keep a woman like her.
Blah. Blah. Blah. Did you read my comment? I don't want Demi Lovato. And I wouldn't want her to want me either. She's fat. I like girls like Adriana Lima. She's light years better than Demi and you know it.
Of course you want girls like Adriana Lima, but do girls like Adriana Lima want you? Tough question, eh? Maybe not even girls like Demi Lovato want you. At least she has millions, what do you have? A one bedroom apartment?
You have NO idea who I am or what I can do or who I can score. Talk all the shit you want :)
well then, please enlighten me with "who you are and the shit you can do and who you can score." I'd love to know, and also your tactics for being who "you are" at the age of 20. Because at this age, you are barely in your second year of college.
You already have a negative light to who I am so what's the point in explaining myself to you? I could be the future president and you wouldn't care. Because I called your idol Demi fat. I'm good, You can carry on.
she ain't my idol, actually. My idol is Naruto, and that will never change.
I like a little better now that you mentioned Naruto... Demi is still fat though :)
ok. wow, if you think demi is fat, then I have a looooottt of weight to lose. damn, I need to start my carrot a day diet. And yep, Naruto's best. is that his face in your pic?
Yes it is :)
Fat acceptance is wrong but fat shaming is totally okay
Way too long to read, but I enjoyed the photos. Thanks.
Why is fat shaming such a big deal but penis shaming isn’t?
Girls are worse than guys about it so what’s up?
no, no, I think men are equally vile when it comes to shaming a woman for her inadequate body. Oh, you're a fat cow because you are two pounds overweight. I don't like you no more.
@DianaWest not from what I’ve seen
What, serious? I NEVER hear women complaining about the size of a man's "too big ass," but I hear guys all the time talking about "big tits" this and big tits that, and "I won't date her cause she's too flat, or too skinny, or too fat, or too ugly, or too pretty, or too bitchy, or her ass is too angular, or she has a man chin, or she is not my type, I prefer dyed blondes with breast implants and fake lashes." I mean, women can be shallow too, but honestly, I see gorgeous women with fat pigs and hideous men, while I almost never see gorgeous men with fat/hideous women. It's not even about money, it is about "true love." Unfortunately, many guys have a hard time with it if his girl falls into any of the descriptions above. I am not saying all men are shallow, and a lot of men start to value women more as the age (thankfully) but what I hear from most college-aged guys is what I just states above. And it just repulses me. Why do I have to be perfect?
@DianaWest funny
I’ve seen more penis related issues but those are always overlooked. But if a guy dares make a comment about a females body then he’s a sexist douche
oh? Well, that's something you can't see unless you're actually naked. Unlike women, who lucky enough get to be judged by EVERYONE, not just the ones who see them naked. Fat ass, oooh, nah uh. Cellulite, yuck. Small boobs, nope. Muffin top, ewwww get away from me. anyways, whatevs, I said men and women can be equally vile. It's funny. you know, I personally don't care that much about a man's flaws as long as I love him. If he is decent looking but kind, smart, funny, and loyal, then no flaw will make me love him less. Too bad that most men I have met so far, and have heard seem to only care about perfection and have unbelievably high standards even though they themselves ain't hot shit or anything.
All women are beautiful
Women are all equally attractive
Uh? They are?
No..
I don't care about other people's body